Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I would think the EPDM roofing would work, but finding the valve fitting 
might be a trick. I've never had or seen an ortho seat, so I don't know 
what they look like or how they work.   I wonder if vacuum bags used to 
make composites would work.  or the composite cryovac bags that boxed 
beef etc is packed it.  It is tough, has heat sealable layers and 
durable.  But same thing, where do you find the valve.



Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
January 19, 2020 at 8:34 PM
What about rubber roofing sheet? That stuff is tough and adhesive will 
bond it. Scraps are easy to find at roofers shops


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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

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What about rubber roofing sheet?  That stuff is tough and adhesive will bond 
it. Scraps are easy to find at roofers shops 

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> On Jan 19, 2020, at 9:30 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Orca hypalon would be a serious upgrade. It is the stuff rigid inflatable
> boat collars are made from. It will last over 30 years out in the elements.
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 5:20 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve seen a number of the failed bladders. It wouldn’t be hard to use them
>> as a pattern. They’re clearly made out of flat material that was heat
>> sealed.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cool. I have never seen those seats.
>>> 
>>> It would be pretty easy to make any shape out of Orca hypalon. The glue
>> is
>>> readily available, as are fittings. It is extremely tough. Getting some
>>> little patterns made from the old bladders would be the only hard part,
>>> pretty much.
>>> 
>>> K
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 10:26 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 One? Not if you’ve got ortho seats. More like five, I believe. Maybe
>> more.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Orca hypalon would be a serious upgrade. It is the stuff rigid inflatable
boat collars are made from. It will last over 30 years out in the elements.

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 5:20 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I’ve seen a number of the failed bladders. It wouldn’t be hard to use them
> as a pattern. They’re clearly made out of flat material that was heat
> sealed.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Cool. I have never seen those seats.
> >
> > It would be pretty easy to make any shape out of Orca hypalon. The glue
> is
> > readily available, as are fittings. It is extremely tough. Getting some
> > little patterns made from the old bladders would be the only hard part,
> > pretty much.
> >
> > K
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 10:26 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> One? Not if you’ve got ortho seats. More like five, I believe. Maybe
> more.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Uhoh

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

My w211 E320 4matic  has,a transfer case as i had,an issue with it -long
story.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 1:26 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Really? The W163 has a transfer case. Did the 4Matics have the same?
>
> I’ve never had a 4Matic car, so I know nothing about them.
>
> -D learning something new every day
>
>
> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > 4 matic is awd. They just do not say it on the 163 ML but the 164 does
> as well as the passenger cars such as 210, 211 etc.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> They’re all AWD. I don’t believe they refer to it as “4Matic”. There’s
> a low gear option on them as well, I don’t believe that’s a 4Matic thing.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think they are all 4matic.  I'm thinking the leak is the sunroof
> drain; if not, a tube of silicone sealer will fix that right up...
> >>>
> >>> Guy said 2 other people were scheduled to look at it, I'm sure it will
> go fast.
> >>>
> >>> The friend with the Nissan Rogue I helped her buy said it died Friday,
> probably trans sh*t the bed, shop has it to look at it Monday...  I feel
> kinda bad for her, she doesn't have a lot of $$ right now so was thinking
> pick it up and let her use it for basic transpo, sell it or whatever after.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
>  On 1/19/20 11:55 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>  They lost me at "leaks water inside when it rains".
> 
>  Are all of these MLs 4-matic, or are there 4-matic versions and
> non-4-matic?
> 
>  Max Dillon
>  Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I worked with a guy once whose great grandmother or something like that ran off 
with Joseph Smith, one of his “wives” or something. It really upset the family 
at the time. Apparently he was psycho and do was she. 

--FT
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> On Jan 19, 2020, at 9:03 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have never been to Nauvoo but i owned a house in upstate NY- Lansing to
> be exact  which was,said that Brigham Young had worked on during the
> building ca.1814. I spent a day in the Mormon archives in Provo Utah hoping
> to establish that so I could market  the house, which we operated as a B
> inn to a Mormon clientele but the best research i could find was done by a
> local Mormon  scholar who documented  Young's earlyy career as a
> carpenter's assistant. His,mother is buried in the local cemetery there
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 7:56 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> no.   It was quite interesting in the 70s when the LDS began buying up
>> parts of Nauvoo. The RLDS already owned many of the historic sites, and
>> had a visitor's center.  LDS sent individual families to buy up the
>> places they were interested in, basically undercover.  I don't believe
>> any of them let on that they belonged to the LDS church.   When they
>> controlled what they want, they unmasked and built a huge visitors
>> center.   The RLDS was not happy over this.
>> 
>> When I climbed the tv tower under construction, I think before 80'  up I
>> could see Nauvoo.   I quit at 160 of 200' because I could see from
>> Burlington to Keokuk and most points in between.   Probably now 40-50'
>> would be enough to see the new temple.   When I climbed, there was no
>> temple.   Apparently there was some friction between my ancestors and
>> the Brigham young group somewhere between late 1844 and 1846 when a
>> group came up from the Montrose encampment to expropriate certain property.
>> 
>>> Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>>> January 19, 2020 at 5:51 PM
>>> Nauvoo?
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I have never been to Nauvoo but i owned a house in upstate NY- Lansing to
be exact  which was,said that Brigham Young had worked on during the
building ca.1814. I spent a day in the Mormon archives in Provo Utah hoping
to establish that so I could market  the house, which we operated as a B
inn to a Mormon clientele but the best research i could find was done by a
local Mormon  scholar who documented  Young's earlyy career as a
carpenter's assistant. His,mother is buried in the local cemetery there

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 7:56 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> no.   It was quite interesting in the 70s when the LDS began buying up
> parts of Nauvoo. The RLDS already owned many of the historic sites, and
> had a visitor's center.  LDS sent individual families to buy up the
> places they were interested in, basically undercover.  I don't believe
> any of them let on that they belonged to the LDS church.   When they
> controlled what they want, they unmasked and built a huge visitors
> center.   The RLDS was not happy over this.
>
> When I climbed the tv tower under construction, I think before 80'  up I
> could see Nauvoo.   I quit at 160 of 200' because I could see from
> Burlington to Keokuk and most points in between.   Probably now 40-50'
> would be enough to see the new temple.   When I climbed, there was no
> temple.   Apparently there was some friction between my ancestors and
> the Brigham young group somewhere between late 1844 and 1846 when a
> group came up from the Montrose encampment to expropriate certain property.
>
> > Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
> > January 19, 2020 at 5:51 PM
> > Nauvoo?
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I was helping a buddy do something in his attic once and he stepped through the 
ceiling and ended up straddling a joist. Ouchie. 

--FT
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> On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s only happened to me once, thank goodness.
> 
> Fortunately, it was in my garage. I didn’t have any decking on one side of 
> the folding stairs I had installed. I stepped to one (wrong) side of the 
> stairs when I was above them with the intent of moving towards the house 
> portion of the attic without thinking. I went completely through the ceiling 
> with a rafter ending up under each arm(pit) and my torso and legs dangling.
> 
> If adrenaline hadn’t kicked in and had me pull myself up almost immediately, 
> I suspect it could have been worse. And yes, my arms hurt like the dickens 
> for several days after. Since it was the garage it was an easy fix.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 7:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I’m just happy when I’m done with a job like this and I don’t have any 
>>> holes in the ceiling to patch…hasn’t happened yet, but…
>> 
>> Last time I blew insulation my friend fell through the (freshly painted) 
>> ceiling. First time he'd ever done that. I was just glad it was his house.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] E500

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

What about Rick's eBay key programmer?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 19, 2020 6:09:13 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes :

> She’s getting the title so that aspect would be cool I guess. But not 
> running, no way to check codes...
> 
> --FT
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> 
> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 5:44 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > You won't get a key without proof of ownership. SO $500. That is twice 
> > scrap price. take along a few lithos of Ben.
> > 
> > Then haul it to the stealer with title and bill of sale in hand.
> > 
> > > Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> > > January 19, 2020 at 3:26 PM
> > > Yeah that's a thought, good point about old car... $1500 no key? Go with 
> > > the trailer get it, get the title, get it registered here, then go to 
> > > stealer for a key? I think like on the 220 there is a way to get it in 
> > > neutral without a key so it could be dragged on the trailer.
> > > 
> > > I looked at the pics on the computer where I could see them better, it 
> > > looks pretty clean aside from all the crap in it but the pics are kinda 
> > > limited. I suppose with a key even if there are some issues I could 
> > > probably sell it for something reasonable to cover costs/risk etc. or fix 
> > > it.
> > > 
> > > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve seen a number of the failed bladders. It wouldn’t be hard to use them as a 
pattern. They’re clearly made out of flat material that was heat sealed.

-D


> On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Cool. I have never seen those seats.
> 
> It would be pretty easy to make any shape out of Orca hypalon. The glue is
> readily available, as are fittings. It is extremely tough. Getting some
> little patterns made from the old bladders would be the only hard part,
> pretty much.
> 
> K
> 
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 10:26 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> One? Not if you’ve got ortho seats. More like five, I believe. Maybe more.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
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>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s only happened to me once, thank goodness.

Fortunately, it was in my garage. I didn’t have any decking on one side of the 
folding stairs I had installed. I stepped to one (wrong) side of the stairs 
when I was above them with the intent of moving towards the house portion of 
the attic without thinking. I went completely through the ceiling with a rafter 
ending up under each arm(pit) and my torso and legs dangling.

If adrenaline hadn’t kicked in and had me pull myself up almost immediately, I 
suspect it could have been worse. And yes, my arms hurt like the dickens for 
several days after. Since it was the garage it was an easy fix.

-D


> On Jan 19, 2020, at 7:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’m just happy when I’m done with a job like this and I don’t have any holes 
>> in the ceiling to patch…hasn’t happened yet, but…
> 
> Last time I blew insulation my friend fell through the (freshly painted) 
> ceiling. First time he'd ever done that. I was just glad it was his house.
> 
> Mitch.
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[MBZ] MBCA meeting

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Went to an MBCA meeting yesterday.  First one in a long time.  Had a 
technical session at the stealer.   The service manager seems to be a 
nice guy.  gave up printout of the walk around inspection the service 
writer does when you drive in.  a copy of the inspection the mechanic 
does when he gets the car. and showed is the service bay with 10 lifts. 
There was some discussion of tars.   Overall it was lame.  Clay's 
section and Dealers throw better tech sessions.   In fact theirs are 
better than any I have been to.  The stealer did provide a nice lunch 
and door prizes.   We got them to sign off on the mileage awards for the 
87  300D while we were there.


The group then toured Jeff Davis's home.   One of the members in 
attendance showed us a picture of the bed he sleeps in.   It had been in 
his great grandpa's house in nawlins.   When Jeff Davis came downriver 
after attempting to re-interr his father, whose grave was being washed 
away by The River, he was sick and stayed with a friend in Nawlins.  The 
friend was the MBCA members great Grandfather.    Jeff Davis died in 
that bed.  It was very similar to a bed present in the Jeff Davis house, 
a half canopy bed.


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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Cool. I have never seen those seats.

It would be pretty easy to make any shape out of Orca hypalon. The glue is
readily available, as are fittings. It is extremely tough. Getting some
little patterns made from the old bladders would be the only hard part,
pretty much.

K

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> One? Not if you’ve got ortho seats. More like five, I believe. Maybe more.
>
> -D
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

no.   It was quite interesting in the 70s when the LDS began buying up 
parts of Nauvoo. The RLDS already owned many of the historic sites, and 
had a visitor's center.  LDS sent individual families to buy up the 
places they were interested in, basically undercover.  I don't believe 
any of them let on that they belonged to the LDS church.   When they 
controlled what they want, they unmasked and built a huge visitors 
center.   The RLDS was not happy over this.


When I climbed the tv tower under construction, I think before 80'  up I 
could see Nauvoo.   I quit at 160 of 200' because I could see from 
Burlington to Keokuk and most points in between.   Probably now 40-50' 
would be enough to see the new temple.   When I climbed, there was no 
temple.   Apparently there was some friction between my ancestors and 
the Brigham young group somewhere between late 1844 and 1846 when a 
group came up from the Montrose encampment to expropriate certain property.



Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
January 19, 2020 at 5:51 PM
Nauvoo?

Dwight Giles Jr.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

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Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’m just happy when I’m done with a job like this and I don’t have any holes in 
the ceiling to patch…hasn’t happened yet, but…


Last time I blew insulation my friend fell through the (freshly painted) 
ceiling. First time he'd ever done that. I was just glad it was his house.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

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Nauvoo?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 6:28 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Does it involve “special underwear”?
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I can think of a snarky question related to "pioneer" day.   But I
> suppose I probably should not ask.
> >
> >> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >> January 19, 2020 at 4:46 PM
> >> Ask for Pioneer Day (July 24th) off. That’s a biggie for them, too. I
> had a bunch of them ghost me on July 24th one time when I was in SLC doing
> a training session for them. Didn’t say a word, just no one showed up for
> training that day. Nice.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Does it involve “special underwear”?

-D


> On Jan 19, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can think of a snarky question related to "pioneer" day.   But I suppose I 
> probably should not ask.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> January 19, 2020 at 4:46 PM
>> Ask for Pioneer Day (July 24th) off. That’s a biggie for them, too. I had a 
>> bunch of them ghost me on July 24th one time when I was in SLC doing a 
>> training session for them. Didn’t say a word, just no one showed up for 
>> training that day. Nice.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] I think I may have posted this before but maybe it’s time for me to buy it

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Vista Dome!    Riding through colorado and the calif mountains in the 
Vista Dome of the California Zephyr was a great experience.   Repeated 
it in 1988 when we moved to Hawaii, but that was not along the Feather 
River Valley, but on the modern Amtrack route.   Not as spectacular, no 
vista dome, but still memorable.



Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
January 19, 2020 at 5:11 PM
I saw a VW bus once in Cambridge that had the top of a Beetle welded 
onto the top, the glass and all. It was a very good job and looked 
really cool. It was like one of those train cars with all the glass 
for viewing the scenery


--FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I can think of a snarky question related to "pioneer" day.   But I 
suppose I probably should not ask.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
January 19, 2020 at 4:46 PM
Ask for Pioneer Day (July 24th) off. That’s a biggie for them, too. I 
had a bunch of them ghost me on July 24th one time when I was in SLC 
doing a training session for them. Didn’t say a word, just no one 
showed up for training that day. Nice.


-D



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Re: [MBZ] I think I may have posted this before but maybe it’s time for me to buy it

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I saw a VW bus once in Cambridge that had the top of a Beetle welded onto the 
top, the glass and all. It was a very good job and looked really cool. It was 
like one of those train cars with all the glass for viewing the scenery 

--FT
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> On Jan 19, 2020, at 3:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> Reminds me of those fiberglass van conversions for Beetles they had back in 
> the day. Sawzall the thing behind the door pillar and ‘glass the top into the 
> roof.
> 
> Always wanted one of those...
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yea plywood for sure. I wonder if at one point it had glass but they 
>> replaced with plywood for some reason. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Clearly not a Binz or Universal conversion. Looks like a Bubba conversion. 
>>> Those sides appear to be plywood.
>>> 
>>> Would probably look good on top of the pile of cars in your back 40.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2898535976872128/
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] E500

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She’s getting the title so that aspect would be cool I guess. But not running, 
no way to check codes...

--FT
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> On Jan 19, 2020, at 5:44 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You won't get a key without proof of ownership.   SO $500.   That is twice 
> scrap price. take along a few lithos of Ben.
> 
> Then haul it to the stealer with title and bill of sale in hand.
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> January 19, 2020 at 3:26 PM
>> Yeah that's a thought, good point about old car...  $1500 no key?  Go with 
>> the trailer get it, get the title, get it registered here, then go to 
>> stealer for a key?  I think like on the 220 there is a way to get it in 
>> neutral without a key so it could be dragged on the trailer.
>> 
>> I looked at the pics on the computer where I could see them better, it looks 
>> pretty clean aside from all the crap in it but the pics are kinda limited.  
>> I suppose with a key even if there are some issues I could probably sell it 
>> for something reasonable to cover costs/risk etc. or fix it.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

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Ask for Pioneer Day (July 24th) off. That’s a biggie for them, too. I had a 
bunch of them ghost me on July 24th one time when I was in SLC doing a training 
session for them. Didn’t say a word, just no one showed up for training that 
day. Nice.

-D


> On Jan 19, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> No, but I guess we should. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So do you get Joseph Smith’s birthday off?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since I work for a company with a lot of Mormons tomorrow is not a holiday 
>>> for us. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Heh. Lows in the 40s tonight. Overcast and cold for the day tomorrow. My 
 knee feels pretty good.
 
 MLK Day for us ‘guvmint employees, so I guess I’ll take advantage of the 
 weather and spend some quality time crawling around in the attic tomorrow 
 stringing CAT6 shielded riser network cable for Ethernet and camera cables 
 for my security cameras.
 
 Never realized how much I used my security cameras at the old house until 
 I didn’t have them any more.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

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How about Brigham Young? or the day Jseph Smith was killed in Carthage?


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
January 19, 2020 at 4:42 PM
No, but I guess we should.



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Re: [MBZ] E500

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You won't get a key without proof of ownership.   SO $500.   That is 
twice scrap price. take along a few lithos of Ben.


Then haul it to the stealer with title and bill of sale in hand.

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
January 19, 2020 at 3:26 PM
Yeah that's a thought, good point about old car...  $1500 no key?  Go 
with the trailer get it, get the title, get it registered here, then 
go to stealer for a key?  I think like on the 220 there is a way to 
get it in neutral without a key so it could be dragged on the trailer.


I looked at the pics on the computer where I could see them better, it 
looks pretty clean aside from all the crap in it but the pics are 
kinda limited.  I suppose with a key even if there are some issues I 
could probably sell it for something reasonable to cover costs/risk 
etc. or fix it.


--FT




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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

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No, but I guess we should. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2020, at 2:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So do you get Joseph Smith’s birthday off?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Since I work for a company with a lot of Mormons tomorrow is not a holiday 
>> for us. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Heh. Lows in the 40s tonight. Overcast and cold for the day tomorrow. My 
>>> knee feels pretty good.
>>> 
>>> MLK Day for us ‘guvmint employees, so I guess I’ll take advantage of the 
>>> weather and spend some quality time crawling around in the attic tomorrow 
>>> stringing CAT6 shielded riser network cable for Ethernet and camera cables 
>>> for my security cameras.
>>> 
>>> Never realized how much I used my security cameras at the old house until I 
>>> didn’t have them any more.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

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I’m just happy when I’m done with a job like this and I don’t have any holes in 
the ceiling to patch…hasn’t happened yet, but…

-D


> On Jan 19, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Happy Crawling!
> 
> We all wish we were there to help!   
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> January 19, 2020 at 12:33 PM
>> Heh. Lows in the 40s tonight. Overcast and cold for the day tomorrow. My 
>> knee feels pretty good.
>> 
>> MLK Day for us ‘guvmint employees, so I guess I’ll take advantage of the 
>> weather and spend some quality time crawling around in the attic tomorrow 
>> stringing CAT6 shielded riser network cable for Ethernet and camera cables 
>> for my security cameras.
>> 
>> Never realized how much I used my security cameras at the old house until I 
>> didn’t have them any more.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Happy Crawling!

We all wish we were there to help!   


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
January 19, 2020 at 12:33 PM
Heh. Lows in the 40s tonight. Overcast and cold for the day tomorrow. 
My knee feels pretty good.


MLK Day for us ‘guvmint employees, so I guess I’ll take advantage of 
the weather and spend some quality time crawling around in the attic 
tomorrow stringing CAT6 shielded riser network cable for Ethernet and 
camera cables for my security cameras.


Never realized how much I used my security cameras at the old house 
until I didn’t have them any more.


-D
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Re: [MBZ] E500

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No key unless the person on the title gets it.

That’s a long ways away for a roll of the dice. If you’re up for a road trip 
and potential disappointment, take $2k with you, look at it, assess the damage 
and offer her $1800.

Sellers like this tend to respond when they see the $$. For example:

Saw a KitchenAid burr style coffee grinder on FB today. These retail for around 
$250, maybe less if Mitch is shopping it, but they’re not terribly common and 
rarely show up used. Story is they bought it, used it a few times and didn’t 
like it. By the time they made the decision they couldn’t return it. Asking $85 
with book and original box. Been for sale for nearly a month.

PM’ed the seller and offered $70.

They countered at $75.

No thank you, but thanks for the offer.

An hour later they’re PM’ing me asking if I can come get it today they’ll sell 
for $70. What sucks is that they’re nearly an hour away in Bradenton. I haven’t 
decided whether I want to sacrifice two hours of driving time for this with all 
the stuff I need to get done.

Hmm.

-D


> On Jan 19, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah that's a thought, good point about old car...  $1500 no key?  Go with 
> the trailer get it, get the title, get it registered here, then go to stealer 
> for a key?  I think like on the 220 there is a way to get it in neutral 
> without a key so it could be dragged on the trailer.
> 
> I looked at the pics on the computer where I could see them better, it looks 
> pretty clean aside from all the crap in it but the pics are kinda limited.  I 
> suppose with a key even if there are some issues I could probably sell it for 
> something reasonable to cover costs/risk etc. or fix it.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 1/19/20 4:01 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Sounds like a good deal.
>> 
>> If you get the key first, ... Try to get something in writing about the 
>> price? Imagine if you pay for the key, car starts and runs great, then she 
>> changes her mind and increases the price.
>> 
>> I think you should just beat her down on the price and then get the key. 15 
>> year old car, big risk for you, nobody wants to mess with old cars anymore, 
>> blah blah blah.
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Jan 19, 2020 3:48:09 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>> :
>> 
>>> So I saw this 211 05 E500 from an estate sale in amongst all the other crap 
>>> the old man had. Didn’t sell at the sale yesterday. 4hr away in Jawja. 
>>> Looks pretty nice. Clean title but no key. 4hr away.
>>> 
>>> Been sitting since the old man left this mortal coil in September. The 
>>> seller said she road in it back then and it was all good, FWIW. Asking 
>>> $2300, another $350 to get a key. Can’t tell from pics if suspension is ok 
>>> but if it’s been sitting a few months it might be dropped. With no key it 
>>> would be hard to tell how it runs, suspension, etc. I asked for VIN and pic 
>>> from side to see if it is slammed.
>>> 
>>> I’m trying to figure out how to do this. Would be a nice upgrade from the 
>>> 210 $600E320, I might swap it to my daughter for her 124 E320 then sell 
>>> that and make a few $$ and she would have a newer car.
>>> 
>>> What would be the best way to take a winger on this thing? Pay for the key 
>>> then see if it works, sell the key back to the seller if not, or then 
>>> lowball it if it’s got issues? Or lowball an offer then get a key?
>>> 
>>> The woman had been responsive to questions, took a bunch of pics and sent 
>>> them. She just sent me VIN and a coupla other pics but can’t get a side pic 
>>> way it’s parked but says it isn’t slammed. I’ll shoot K the VIN get a read 
>>> on it.
>>> 
>>> I think she just wants it gone.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] E500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yeah that's a thought, good point about old car...  $1500 no key?  Go 
with the trailer get it, get the title, get it registered here, then go 
to stealer for a key?  I think like on the 220 there is a way to get it 
in neutral without a key so it could be dragged on the trailer.


I looked at the pics on the computer where I could see them better, it 
looks pretty clean aside from all the crap in it but the pics are kinda 
limited.  I suppose with a key even if there are some issues I could 
probably sell it for something reasonable to cover costs/risk etc. or 
fix it.


--FT

On 1/19/20 4:01 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Sounds like a good deal.

If you get the key first, ... Try to get something in writing about the price? 
Imagine if you pay for the key, car starts and runs great, then she changes her 
mind and increases the price.

I think you should just beat her down on the price and then get the key. 15 
year old car, big risk for you, nobody wants to mess with old cars anymore, 
blah blah blah.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 19, 2020 3:48:09 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes :


So I saw this 211 05 E500 from an estate sale in amongst all the other crap the 
old man had. Didn’t sell at the sale yesterday. 4hr away in Jawja. Looks pretty 
nice. Clean title but no key. 4hr away.

Been sitting since the old man left this mortal coil in September. The seller 
said she road in it back then and it was all good, FWIW. Asking $2300, another 
$350 to get a key. Can’t tell from pics if suspension is ok but if it’s been 
sitting a few months it might be dropped. With no key it would be hard to tell 
how it runs, suspension, etc. I asked for VIN and pic from side to see if it is 
slammed.

I’m trying to figure out how to do this. Would be a nice upgrade from the 210 
$600E320, I might swap it to my daughter for her 124 E320 then sell that and 
make a few $$ and she would have a newer car.

What would be the best way to take a winger on this thing? Pay for the key then 
see if it works, sell the key back to the seller if not, or then lowball it if 
it’s got issues? Or lowball an offer then get a key?

The woman had been responsive to questions, took a bunch of pics and sent them. 
She just sent me VIN and a coupla other pics but can’t get a side pic way it’s 
parked but says it isn’t slammed. I’ll shoot K the VIN get a read on it.

I think she just wants it gone.

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Re: [MBZ] E500

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Sounds like a good deal.

If you get the key first, ... Try to get something in writing about the price? 
Imagine if you pay for the key, car starts and runs great, then she changes her 
mind and increases the price.

I think you should just beat her down on the price and then get the key. 15 
year old car, big risk for you, nobody wants to mess with old cars anymore, 
blah blah blah.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

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> So I saw this 211 05 E500 from an estate sale in amongst all the other crap 
> the old man had. Didn’t sell at the sale yesterday. 4hr away in Jawja. Looks 
> pretty nice. Clean title but no key. 4hr away.
> 
> Been sitting since the old man left this mortal coil in September. The seller 
> said she road in it back then and it was all good, FWIW. Asking $2300, 
> another $350 to get a key. Can’t tell from pics if suspension is ok but if 
> it’s been sitting a few months it might be dropped. With no key it would be 
> hard to tell how it runs, suspension, etc. I asked for VIN and pic from side 
> to see if it is slammed.
> 
> I’m trying to figure out how to do this. Would be a nice upgrade from the 210 
> $600E320, I might swap it to my daughter for her 124 E320 then sell that and 
> make a few $$ and she would have a newer car.
> 
> What would be the best way to take a winger on this thing? Pay for the key 
> then see if it works, sell the key back to the seller if not, or then lowball 
> it if it’s got issues? Or lowball an offer then get a key?
> 
> The woman had been responsive to questions, took a bunch of pics and sent 
> them. She just sent me VIN and a coupla other pics but can’t get a side pic 
> way it’s parked but says it isn’t slammed. I’ll shoot K the VIN get a read on 
> it.
> 
> I think she just wants it gone.
> 
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[MBZ] E500

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

So I saw this 211 05 E500 from an estate sale in amongst all the other crap the 
old man had. Didn’t sell at the sale yesterday. 4hr away in Jawja. Looks pretty 
nice. Clean title but no key. 4hr away. 

Been sitting since the old man left this mortal coil in September.  The seller 
said she road in it back then and it was all good, FWIW.  Asking $2300, another 
$350 to get a key. Can’t tell from pics if suspension is ok but if it’s been 
sitting a few months it might be dropped. With no key it would be hard to tell 
how it runs, suspension, etc. I asked for VIN and pic from side to see if it is 
slammed. 

I’m trying to figure out how to do this. Would be a nice upgrade from the 210 
$600E320, I might swap it to my daughter for her 124 E320 then sell that and 
make a few $$ and she would have a newer car. 

What would be the best way to take a winger on this thing?  Pay for the key 
then see if it works, sell the key back to the seller if not, or then lowball 
it if it’s got issues?  Or lowball an offer then get a key?  

The woman had been responsive to questions, took a bunch of pics and sent them. 
She just sent me VIN and a coupla other pics but can’t get a side pic way it’s 
parked but says it isn’t slammed. I’ll shoot K the VIN get a read on it. 

I think she just wants it gone.  

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Re: [MBZ] I think I may have posted this before but maybe it’s time for me to buy it

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Reminds me of those fiberglass van conversions for Beetles they had back in the 
day. Sawzall the thing behind the door pillar and ‘glass the top into the roof.

Always wanted one of those...

-D

> On Jan 19, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Yea plywood for sure. I wonder if at one point it had glass but they 
> replaced with plywood for some reason. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Clearly not a Binz or Universal conversion. Looks like a Bubba conversion. 
>> Those sides appear to be plywood.
>> 
>> Would probably look good on top of the pile of cars in your back 40.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

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So do you get Joseph Smith’s birthday off?

-D

> On Jan 19, 2020, at 2:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Since I work for a company with a lot of Mormons tomorrow is not a holiday 
> for us. 
> 
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>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Heh. Lows in the 40s tonight. Overcast and cold for the day tomorrow. My 
>> knee feels pretty good.
>> 
>> MLK Day for us ‘guvmint employees, so I guess I’ll take advantage of the 
>> weather and spend some quality time crawling around in the attic tomorrow 
>> stringing CAT6 shielded riser network cable for Ethernet and camera cables 
>> for my security cameras.
>> 
>> Never realized how much I used my security cameras at the old house until I 
>> didn’t have them any more.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I think I may have posted this before but maybe it’s time for me to buy it

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

He needs a tent and some chairs and he could go on the circuit!  Next thing you 
know he has a TV show and a coupla mega mansions!

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> On Jan 19, 2020, at 3:07 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
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> Or rent it out to a local evangelist given its history.
> 
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> 
>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 1:42 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Clearly not a Binz or Universal conversion. Looks like a Bubba conversion.
>> Those sides appear to be plywood.
>> 
>> Would probably look good on top of the pile of cars in your back 40.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I think I may have posted this before but maybe it’s time for me to buy it

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

“Jesus owns it now”

Jesus, send title

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Re: [MBZ] I think I may have posted this before but maybe it’s time for me to buy it

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Or rent it out to a local evangelist given its history.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 1:42 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Clearly not a Binz or Universal conversion. Looks like a Bubba conversion.
> Those sides appear to be plywood.
>
> Would probably look good on top of the pile of cars in your back 40.
>
> -D
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] I think I may have posted this before but maybe it’s time for me to buy it

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea plywood for sure. I wonder if at one point it had glass but they replaced 
with plywood for some reason. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Clearly not a Binz or Universal conversion. Looks like a Bubba conversion. 
> Those sides appear to be plywood.
> 
> Would probably look good on top of the pile of cars in your back 40.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Since I work for a company with a lot of Mormons tomorrow is not a holiday for 
us. 

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> On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Heh. Lows in the 40s tonight. Overcast and cold for the day tomorrow. My 
> knee feels pretty good.
> 
> MLK Day for us ‘guvmint employees, so I guess I’ll take advantage of the 
> weather and spend some quality time crawling around in the attic tomorrow 
> stringing CAT6 shielded riser network cable for Ethernet and camera cables 
> for my security cameras.
> 
> Never realized how much I used my security cameras at the old house until I 
> didn’t have them any more.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

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Probably should run some power lines too while you’re pulling wire even if you 
don’t terminate anything, at least it will be there if you need any

--FT
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> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Heh. Lows in the 40s tonight. Overcast and cold for the day tomorrow. My 
> knee feels pretty good.
> 
> MLK Day for us ‘guvmint employees, so I guess I’ll take advantage of the 
> weather and spend some quality time crawling around in the attic tomorrow 
> stringing CAT6 shielded riser network cable for Ethernet and camera cables 
> for my security cameras.
> 
> Never realized how much I used my security cameras at the old house until I 
> didn’t have them any more.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I think I may have posted this before but maybe it’s time for me to buy it

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Give it a fresh green on green remake and add a couple recline seats to the
back... you have a "client to lunch car" that will leave a lasting
impression
"Unforgettable"

Yep it says "Kaleb, buy me"

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 11:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Clearly not a Binz or Universal conversion. Looks like a Bubba conversion.
> Those sides appear to be plywood.
>
> Would probably look good on top of the pile of cars in your back 40.
>
> -D
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] I think I may have posted this before but maybe it’s time for me to buy it

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Clearly not a Binz or Universal conversion. Looks like a Bubba conversion. 
Those sides appear to be plywood.

Would probably look good on top of the pile of cars in your back 40.

-D




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[MBZ] OT - Network Wiring Day!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Heh. Lows in the 40s tonight. Overcast and cold for the day tomorrow. My knee 
feels pretty good.

MLK Day for us ‘guvmint employees, so I guess I’ll take advantage of the 
weather and spend some quality time crawling around in the attic tomorrow 
stringing CAT6 shielded riser network cable for Ethernet and camera cables for 
my security cameras.

Never realized how much I used my security cameras at the old house until I 
didn’t have them any more.

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[MBZ] I think I may have posted this before but maybe it’s time for me to buy it

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Re: [MBZ] Uhoh

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Really? The W163 has a transfer case. Did the 4Matics have the same?

I’ve never had a 4Matic car, so I know nothing about them.

-D learning something new every day


> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 4 matic is awd. They just do not say it on the 163 ML but the 164 does as 
> well as the passenger cars such as 210, 211 etc. 
> 
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>>  wrote:
>> 
>> They’re all AWD. I don’t believe they refer to it as “4Matic”. There’s a 
>> low gear option on them as well, I don’t believe that’s a 4Matic thing.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think they are all 4matic.  I'm thinking the leak is the sunroof drain; 
>>> if not, a tube of silicone sealer will fix that right up...
>>> 
>>> Guy said 2 other people were scheduled to look at it, I'm sure it will go 
>>> fast.
>>> 
>>> The friend with the Nissan Rogue I helped her buy said it died Friday, 
>>> probably trans sh*t the bed, shop has it to look at it Monday...  I feel 
>>> kinda bad for her, she doesn't have a lot of $$ right now so was thinking 
>>> pick it up and let her use it for basic transpo, sell it or whatever after.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 1/19/20 11:55 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
 They lost me at "leaks water inside when it rains".
 
 Are all of these MLs 4-matic, or are there 4-matic versions and 
 non-4-matic?
 
 Max Dillon
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

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One? Not if you’ve got ortho seats. More like five, I believe. Maybe more.

-D


> On Jan 19, 2020, at 1:22 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

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It might not be worth the effort, but it is probably not impossible to
identify the material and make one.

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 5:58 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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> Not worth the effort.
>
> The material they used is a heavy vinyl that’s heat sealed and formed to
> match the contours of the seat back or bottom, depending on the location of
> the bladder. The only one that’s a basic geometric shape is the lumbar
> bladder, which is a square. The material is not “stretchy” like rubber, it
> has a defined size and shape. That’s what limits it from "filling” beyond a
> particular area.
>
> Use an old inner tube and you would blow out your upholstery…
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:52 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Time to DIY then, Shoe-goo and inner tubes and some redneck engineering,
> all set.
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Jan 19, 2020 8:49:01 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :
> >
> >> The only bummer about ortho seats is that by now most, if not all, of
> the inflatable bladders are leaking or failed and they’re all NLA, I
> believe. Same with the W140. Last time I checked the only bladder that you
> could get for a W140 was the lumbar. The seat base and side bladders were
> NLA a long time ago.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Well there you go Kaleb, time to wire some funds to Rich!
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
>  I’d be all over this if it was local. The car is well optioned, not
> just
>  green/green, but I also spy orthopedic seats. I wonder if it has ASD
> also.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Uhoh

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

4 matic is awd. They just do not say it on the 163 ML but the 164 does as well 
as the passenger cars such as 210, 211 etc. 

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> On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> They’re all AWD. I don’t believe they refer to it as “4Matic”. There’s a low 
> gear option on them as well, I don’t believe that’s a 4Matic thing.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I think they are all 4matic.  I'm thinking the leak is the sunroof drain; if 
>> not, a tube of silicone sealer will fix that right up...
>> 
>> Guy said 2 other people were scheduled to look at it, I'm sure it will go 
>> fast.
>> 
>> The friend with the Nissan Rogue I helped her buy said it died Friday, 
>> probably trans sh*t the bed, shop has it to look at it Monday...  I feel 
>> kinda bad for her, she doesn't have a lot of $$ right now so was thinking 
>> pick it up and let her use it for basic transpo, sell it or whatever after.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 1/19/20 11:55 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> They lost me at "leaks water inside when it rains".
>>> 
>>> Are all of these MLs 4-matic, or are there 4-matic versions and non-4-matic?
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> Jan 19, 2020 10:22:55 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>> :
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Re: [MBZ] Uhoh

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They’re all AWD. I don’t believe they refer to it as “4Matic”. There’s a low 
gear option on them as well, I don’t believe that’s a 4Matic thing.

-D


> On Jan 19, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think they are all 4matic.  I'm thinking the leak is the sunroof drain; if 
> not, a tube of silicone sealer will fix that right up...
> 
> Guy said 2 other people were scheduled to look at it, I'm sure it will go 
> fast.
> 
> The friend with the Nissan Rogue I helped her buy said it died Friday, 
> probably trans sh*t the bed, shop has it to look at it Monday...  I feel 
> kinda bad for her, she doesn't have a lot of $$ right now so was thinking 
> pick it up and let her use it for basic transpo, sell it or whatever after.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 1/19/20 11:55 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> They lost me at "leaks water inside when it rains".
>> 
>> Are all of these MLs 4-matic, or are there 4-matic versions and non-4-matic?
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
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>> :
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

The rear impact strips are still available.

No idea on the rear bumper cover, but there are a bunch of aftermarket
options including whole amg kits from Lithuania and other places. I dont
know of any that are good; I have an OE front and a Lithuanian front so I
will compare them and see what I find. Still in box out front.

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 5:54 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
> Has anyone found a source for rear bumpers for 124 cars? I've found front
> bumpers, but no rear.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Jan 19, 2020 8:49:01 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :
>
> > The only bummer about ortho seats is that by now most, if not all, of
> the inflatable bladders are leaking or failed and they’re all NLA, I
> believe. Same with the W140. Last time I checked the only bladder that you
> could get for a W140 was the lumbar. The seat base and side bladders were
> NLA a long time ago.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Well there you go Kaleb, time to wire some funds to Rich!
> > >
> > >
> > > Jan 19, 2020 7:48:00 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes :
> > >
> > >
> > > > I’d be all over this if it was local. The car is well optioned, not
> just
> > > > green/green, but I also spy orthopedic seats. I wonder if it has ASD
> also.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Charleston SC
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[MBZ] Old Florida Man Crackhead

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986 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 400 SEL Sedan 4D
Crawfordville, FL· 2 days ago 
· 


$7,000

 * About This Vehicle

 *
 o

 o Driven 208,000 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
 o

 o Exterior color: Tan · Interior color: Tan
 *
 o

 o Fair condition
   

Seller's Description

Well Maintained Car.

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[MBZ] THE CAR IS NOT FOR PARTS BEING SOLD HAS A WHOLE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Complete crackhead.  Except the parts are scattered here and there and 
need to be collected and reassembled, if you could find them all


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/179096686486664/

1992 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD Sedan 4D
Marietta, GA· 21 hours ago 
· 


$2,500

 * About This Vehicle
 *

 *
 o

 o Driven 100,000 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
 o

 o Exterior color: White · Interior color: Grey
 *
 o

 o 18.0 MPG city · 22.0 MPG highway · 20.0 MPG combined
 *
 o

 o Fair condition
   

 * Typical Features
 *

 *
   Moon Roof
 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   6-Cyl, Turbo Diesel
 *
   ABS
 *

Seller's Description

Project Mercedes, my dad bought and was slowly working on it. The motor 
was pulled out and had the head resurfaced. I am moved and don’t have 
time to get it repaired so selling as is. The miles not sure but I 
believe it was in the 100s not like above. It does have a clean and 
clear title. I do not have more pictures or will I take any come see it 
in person engine and car is located at a friends shop in Marietta. Great 
tank of car to have so come get it before someone else does. THE CAR IS 
NOT FOR PARTS BEING SOLD HAS A WHOLE.


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[MBZ] I have lowered the car however it still rises very good

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

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1981 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD Sedan 4D
Fort Mill, SC· 2 days ago 
· 


$3,000

 * About This Vehicle

 *
 o

 o Driven 126,000 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
 o

 o Exterior color: Beige · Interior color: Brown
 *
 o

 o Very good condition
   

Seller's Description

My 1981 300sd is finally up for sale I am the second owner of this 
vehicle and have service records dating back until it was brand new! It 
has chocolate leather interior that has no cracks or tears. All the 
power options including the sunroof still work. I have lowered the car 
however it still rises very good and has no clearance issues ever. The 
only problem with the car is it leaks some oil (which if you know these 
cars they all leak oil) shoot me an offer worst I can say is no!




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[MBZ] Andrew's ML-- 2007 Mercedes-Benz M-Class ML 320 CDI Sport Utility 4D

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/465967020751580/

Looks pretty nice but high miles.  Needs a new shifter switch. Maybe $4k

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2007 Mercedes-Benz M-Class ML 320 CDI Sport Utility 4D
Wilson, NC· 20 minutes ago 
· 


$5,000

 * About This Vehicle
 *

 *
 o

 o Driven 295,499 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
 o

 o Exterior color: White · Interior color: Tan
 *
 o

 o 19.0 MPG city · 24.0 MPG highway · 21.0 MPG combined
 *
 o

 o Very good condition
   

Seller's Description

I am listing my fathers 2007 Mercedes ML 320 CDI in immaculate 
condition. He has taken great care of his car (please see pictures) and 
you will probably not find another one that has been this well kept. He 
was religious about servicing and maintaining and he is listing it for a 
lower price because he purchased another vehicle. The only issue is he 
has been getting a code for the shifter, she drives great and shifts but 
this code comes up occasionally. I’ve researched online and this can be 
as simple as a bad battery to the actual transmission. If you have any 
questions please feel free to reach out, serious buyers only and will 
consider reasonable offers. Less 




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[MBZ] Who wanted a Sprinter?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

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2012 Mercedes-Benz Sprinter
Lawrenceville, GA· 23 hours ago 
· 


$6,900

 * About This Vehicle

 *
 o

 o Driven 399,000 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
 o

 o Exterior color: White
 *
 o

 o Good condition
   

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2012 Mercedes Benz Sprinter 2500 Excellent mechanical condition Company 
vehicle and was constantly maintained and taken care of Drives and 
shifts smooth without hiccups. A/C and heat work great Tires and great 
with about 90% tread. Small dent of left front fender and small rip on 
the driver seat. - Power door locks - Power Windows $6,900 or best offer 
Less 



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[MBZ] Price is $10,000 (obo) not 1000

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1986 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD
Daytona Beach, FL· 57 minutes ago 
· 


$1,000

 * About This Vehicle

 *
 o

 o Driven 95,000 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
 o

 o Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Beige
 *
 o

 o Very good condition
   

Seller's Description

Amazing beauty! I am 2nd owner. Price is $10,000 (obo) not 1000. Silly 
site wouldn’t let me put correct price. I Have always garaged and cared 
for it as did first owner. Crazy good highway mileage. This is a 500,000 
mile engine! Less 




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Re: [MBZ] Uhoh

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I think they are all 4matic.  I'm thinking the leak is the sunroof 
drain; if not, a tube of silicone sealer will fix that right up...


Guy said 2 other people were scheduled to look at it, I'm sure it will 
go fast.


The friend with the Nissan Rogue I helped her buy said it died Friday, 
probably trans sh*t the bed, shop has it to look at it Monday...  I feel 
kinda bad for her, she doesn't have a lot of $$ right now so was 
thinking pick it up and let her use it for basic transpo, sell it or 
whatever after.


--FT

On 1/19/20 11:55 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

They lost me at "leaks water inside when it rains".

Are all of these MLs 4-matic, or are there 4-matic versions and non-4-matic?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 19, 2020 10:22:55 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes :


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Re: [MBZ] Uhoh

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Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

They lost me at "leaks water inside when it rains".

Are all of these MLs 4-matic, or are there 4-matic versions and non-4-matic?


I think all the W163s are 4-Matic, but I think I saw a W164 that was RWD?

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Re: [MBZ] Uhoh

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

They lost me at "leaks water inside when it rains".

Are all of these MLs 4-matic, or are there 4-matic versions and non-4-matic?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

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[MBZ] Uhoh

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Re: [MBZ] Blaupunkt

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Here’s a unit for $20 with BT. 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Blaupunkt-AM-FM-Bluetooth-Media-Receiver-Toronto/836526302

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> On Jan 18, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Is this another brand that got sold off to the Chinese?
> 
> $25 on clearance at some WalMart stores.
> Appears to be $50 regular price so it might be junk.
> https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker?sku=76868
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

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Flights into SAV everyday bro!  Or CHS and I’ll drive you down!

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> On Jan 19, 2020, at 7:48 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
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> I’d be all over this if it was local.

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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

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Just for grins I looked in the EPC for the bladders. I checked a couple and 
they were all NLA. So much so the numbers don’t even come up any more.

-D


> On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Not worth the effort.
> 
> The material they used is a heavy vinyl that’s heat sealed and formed to 
> match the contours of the seat back or bottom, depending on the location of 
> the bladder. The only one that’s a basic geometric shape is the lumbar 
> bladder, which is a square. The material is not “stretchy” like rubber, it 
> has a defined size and shape. That’s what limits it from "filling” beyond a 
> particular area.
> 
> Use an old inner tube and you would blow out your upholstery…
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:52 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Time to DIY then, Shoe-goo and inner tubes and some redneck engineering, all 
>> set.
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Jan 19, 2020 8:49:01 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :
>> 
>>> The only bummer about ortho seats is that by now most, if not all, of the 
>>> inflatable bladders are leaking or failed and they’re all NLA, I believe. 
>>> Same with the W140. Last time I checked the only bladder that you could get 
>>> for a W140 was the lumbar. The seat base and side bladders were NLA a long 
>>> time ago.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 
 Well there you go Kaleb, time to wire some funds to Rich!
 
 
 Jan 19, 2020 7:48:00 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes :
 
 
> I’d be all over this if it was local. The car is well optioned, not just
> green/green, but I also spy orthopedic seats. I wonder if it has ASD also.
> 
> 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

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Not worth the effort.

The material they used is a heavy vinyl that’s heat sealed and formed to match 
the contours of the seat back or bottom, depending on the location of the 
bladder. The only one that’s a basic geometric shape is the lumbar bladder, 
which is a square. The material is not “stretchy” like rubber, it has a defined 
size and shape. That’s what limits it from "filling” beyond a particular area.

Use an old inner tube and you would blow out your upholstery…

-D


 
> On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:52 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Time to DIY then, Shoe-goo and inner tubes and some redneck engineering, all 
> set.
> 
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> 
> Jan 19, 2020 8:49:01 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :
> 
>> The only bummer about ortho seats is that by now most, if not all, of the 
>> inflatable bladders are leaking or failed and they’re all NLA, I believe. 
>> Same with the W140. Last time I checked the only bladder that you could get 
>> for a W140 was the lumbar. The seat base and side bladders were NLA a long 
>> time ago.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well there you go Kaleb, time to wire some funds to Rich!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jan 19, 2020 7:48:00 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes :
>>> 
>>> 
 I’d be all over this if it was local. The car is well optioned, not just
 green/green, but I also spy orthopedic seats. I wonder if it has ASD also.
 
 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Has anyone found a source for rear bumpers for 124 cars? I've found front 
bumpers, but no rear.

Max Dillon
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Jan 19, 2020 8:49:01 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :

> The only bummer about ortho seats is that by now most, if not all, of the 
> inflatable bladders are leaking or failed and they’re all NLA, I believe. 
> Same with the W140. Last time I checked the only bladder that you could get 
> for a W140 was the lumbar. The seat base and side bladders were NLA a long 
> time ago.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Well there you go Kaleb, time to wire some funds to Rich!
> > 
> > 
> > Jan 19, 2020 7:48:00 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes :
> > 
> > 
> > > I’d be all over this if it was local. The car is well optioned, not just
> > > green/green, but I also spy orthopedic seats. I wonder if it has ASD also.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Time to DIY then, Shoe-goo and inner tubes and some redneck engineering, all 
set.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 19, 2020 8:49:01 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes :

> The only bummer about ortho seats is that by now most, if not all, of the 
> inflatable bladders are leaking or failed and they’re all NLA, I believe. 
> Same with the W140. Last time I checked the only bladder that you could get 
> for a W140 was the lumbar. The seat base and side bladders were NLA a long 
> time ago.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jan 19, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Well there you go Kaleb, time to wire some funds to Rich!
> > 
> > 
> > Jan 19, 2020 7:48:00 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes :
> > 
> > 
> > > I’d be all over this if it was local. The car is well optioned, not just
> > > green/green, but I also spy orthopedic seats. I wonder if it has ASD also.
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The only bummer about ortho seats is that by now most, if not all, of the 
inflatable bladders are leaking or failed and they’re all NLA, I believe. Same 
with the W140. Last time I checked the only bladder that you could get for a 
W140 was the lumbar. The seat base and side bladders were NLA a long time ago.

-D


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> 
> Well there you go Kaleb, time to wire some funds to Rich!
> 
> 
> Jan 19, 2020 7:48:00 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes :
> 
>> I’d be all over this if it was local. The car is well optioned, not just
>> green/green, but I also spy orthopedic seats. I wonder if it has ASD also.
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Well there you go Kaleb, time to wire some funds to Rich!


Jan 19, 2020 7:48:00 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes :

> I’d be all over this if it was local. The car is well optioned, not just
> green/green, but I also spy orthopedic seats. I wonder if it has ASD also.
>


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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Ah, rebuilt title... that would turn me off for fear of resale issues.  But
its certainly possible they just picked the wrong option when listing.

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 8:26 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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>
> It'd be nice if the sellers find the title, and put the VIN in the CL ad.
>
>
> I wonder about this:
> title status: rebuilt
>
> Fully half to 2/3 of the people who say that checked it accidentally or
> don't
> know what it means.
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

It'd be nice if the sellers find the title, and put the VIN in the CL ad.


I wonder about this:
title status: rebuilt

Fully half to 2/3 of the people who say that checked it accidentally or don't 
know what it means.


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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

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I totally agree with Jaime’s mindset on this sort of thing, as well as his 
observation of W140 values. I would caution anyone to avoid W140s unless you 
know them well and can clearly assess condition. Due to their complexity, 
there’s a lot of “fixes” that can be hidden if you’re not dialed into all of 
the systems on these models.

More importantly, you have to put a value on your use of the car. I don’t see 
many people taking that into consideration at the time of purchase or sale. The 
car either will or has provided value as transportation, so that has to factor 
into the total cost. I don’t believe I’ve ever sold a car at a loss as long as 
I considered this as a part of the car’s value. Maybe I’ve only broke even in a 
worst case scenario, but if I have lost money, it’s only been on paper based on 
the raw values without considering usage.

As for the green car, I would beat up on the seller big time over the rebuilt 
title. That’s a HUGE red flag for most potential buyers and will scare many 
away before they even thought of calling on this car. As long as I can 
understand the reason for the rebuilt or salvage title on a car I can move 
forward from that point, it doesn’t deter me from considering it. Even if the 
seller can’t explain, maybe due to it being something that occurred with a 
previous owner, if I can inspect the car and be satisfied it’s good, it’s a 
major negotiating point. One of the best MBs I’ve ever owned has a rebuilt 
title (1997 SL500).

-D


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> 
> I’d be all over this if it was local.  The car is well optioned, not just
> green/green, but I also spy orthopedic seats.  I wonder if it has ASD also.
> 
> As you all probably know by now, I find much more value in these cars than
> just the price paid.  I’ve also found that if you treat cars based on their
> value as whole (usage, ownership experience, cost of compatible
> transportation, etc) the value of the cars does go up significantly.  I
> typically buy cars on the lower end, although my definition of lower end
> may be different than most people on the list.  But I’ve managed to sell my
> last few daily drivers for 2-3x times what I paid for them after ownership
> for 2-3 years and 20-30k miles.  This was a 350SDL and two 123 diesels.  I
> did put a lot into each car, but in the end I usually come out roughly
> breaking even.  This 124 could easily be one of those cars.
> 
> My 140 is a different story... I’d probably get what I bought it for, but
> 140 market is quite different.  Its too difficult/expensive to make a car
> with needs into a good one.  I’d like to get into another 126, or a 124 or
> even 123 again for daily use.  Just waiting for the right one to come
> around.  If this green/green car was closer, it would be it.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 10:16 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> 
>> Some wishful thinking too
>> 
>> 
>> https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/savannah-1993-mercedes-benz-300diesel/7058361344.html
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Re: [MBZ] Green/green 1993 Mercedes Benz 300Diesel - $3200

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I’d be all over this if it was local.  The car is well optioned, not just
green/green, but I also spy orthopedic seats.  I wonder if it has ASD also.

As you all probably know by now, I find much more value in these cars than
just the price paid.  I’ve also found that if you treat cars based on their
value as whole (usage, ownership experience, cost of compatible
transportation, etc) the value of the cars does go up significantly.  I
typically buy cars on the lower end, although my definition of lower end
may be different than most people on the list.  But I’ve managed to sell my
last few daily drivers for 2-3x times what I paid for them after ownership
for 2-3 years and 20-30k miles.  This was a 350SDL and two 123 diesels.  I
did put a lot into each car, but in the end I usually come out roughly
breaking even.  This 124 could easily be one of those cars.

My 140 is a different story... I’d probably get what I bought it for, but
140 market is quite different.  Its too difficult/expensive to make a car
with needs into a good one.  I’d like to get into another 126, or a 124 or
even 123 again for daily use.  Just waiting for the right one to come
around.  If this green/green car was closer, it would be it.

Jaime


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> Some wishful thinking too
>
>
> https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/savannah-1993-mercedes-benz-300diesel/7058361344.html
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[MBZ] OT: HP 8540P EliteBook

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Yes, these are the business grade Elitebooks.  I did some purchasing for a 
company back in 2014-2015 and these were the units I purchased for everyone 
that needed a laptop.  Great machines, durable, plenty fast, excellent video, 
etc.  And the price looks really good also.
Best Wishes,
Roger
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