Re: [MBZ] MB market - 2004 E500 wagon
Looks nice and it has AWD. On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 8:32 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Here's one in JAX, kinda high > > > https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/jacksonville-2004-mercedes-benz-e500/7344499534.html > > That green car in the link is pretty. I'd drive that, AMG wheels too > although the 5x2 spokes on mine look better I think > > --FT > > On 7/1/21 2:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > Are these rare? > > > > https://thembmarket.com/2004-mercedes-benz-e500-4matic-wagon > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > --FT > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SE 4.5 - 23k miles (?) - $12,900
Buyna bottle of Simple Green, scrub the seats clean, and *Robert est votre oncle.* On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 9:55 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Cool car > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jul 1, 2021, at 9:14 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1972 280SE 4.5 - 23k miles (?) - $12,900
Cool car --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 1, 2021, at 9:14 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I’m selling my 2004 Benz for $2000 cash money no negotiation. The only thing needs fixing is air shocks, that’s why the price is low.
Doesn’t matter. No negotiation --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 1, 2021, at 8:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2006 SL500 - 85k miles - $14,999
https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-marys-2006-sl500/7344980669.html Like the styling of this one. Colors are good too. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1972 280SE 4.5 - 23k miles (?) - $12,900
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-1972-mercedes-benz-280se-45/7344935029.html Looks pretty decent and intact. Seats could use a cleaning. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I’m selling my 2004 Benz for $2000 cash money no negotiation. The only thing needs fixing is air shocks, that’s why the price is low.
Looks like a good-sized crease in the right rear door also near the fender, unless that's just a trick of the lighting. Allan On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, at 8:17 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > Pay no attention to the boards propping it up ,The car runs and drives > like a beauty. (a washed up old beauty queen from 1980 who's sagging in > the front...) > > https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-04-mercedes-benz-s500/7344602667.html > > -- > --FT > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB market - 2004 E500 wagon
Here's one in JAX, kinda high https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/jacksonville-2004-mercedes-benz-e500/7344499534.html That green car in the link is pretty. I'd drive that, AMG wheels too although the 5x2 spokes on mine look better I think --FT On 7/1/21 2:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Are these rare? https://thembmarket.com/2004-mercedes-benz-e500-4matic-wagon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I’m selling my 2004 Benz for $2000 cash money no negotiation. The only thing needs fixing is air shocks, that’s why the price is low.
Pay no attention to the boards propping it up ,The car runs and drives like a beauty. (a washed up old beauty queen from 1980 who's sagging in the front...) https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-04-mercedes-benz-s500/7344602667.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb
Yeah my experience is that about one in ten of the car-part sellers are actually interested. I've bought some low dollar stuff, 100 bucks or so, but I had to email and call a lot of places. Max Dillon Charleston SC Jun 30, 2021 5:00:11 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes : > Same experience with car-part.com. I’ve tried numerous times to reach out to > sellers but have never received a response. I often wondered if they simply > ignore consumer requests and just respond to other businesses? > > In one case the seller was nearby and I called. They still ghosted me when I > asked about a specific item and even provided the stock number. “Don’t know > if we have it, I’ll check and call yu back.” Just to be sure someone wasn’t > being lazy I called three times over a week’s time. Never got a response. And > this was for a $400 seat, not some $10 part. > > -D > >> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Years back I had the idea to develop an enthusiast-oriented parts exchange >> website. People who needed parts could connect with people who were parting >> out or otherwise had parts to sell. The actual transaction would remain >> private between the parties; the site would just offer a way for sellers to >> list and buyers to search for or post "parts wanted" listings. It would be >> more focused on owners of a specific manufacturer or model than eBay or CL. >> >> I guess car-part.com is something close to the idea but more for >> individuals. car-part.com seems to be mostly for professionals; I have never >> gotten a seller to respond to my inquiries there. >> >> In the end I figured that email or posting on enthusiast lists or forums was >> simpler and would probably work just as well. thesamba.com classifieds >> worked well when I needed to get an additional wheel for my Ghia, for >> example. OK, procrastination was part of it too I just never got around >> to actually developing the idea. >> >> Allan >> >> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 4:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> After parting a car out myself, I can’t see where there is any money in >>> this whatsoever. The convenience is if you have a need, ongoing or >>> otherwise, that these rusting hulks can provide, otherwise, they’re just >>> taking up space. The hassle of trying to market/sell, pack, ship, collect >>> money, etc., is a losing proposition. >>> >>> And then there are the hoarders, like Kaleb. >>> >>> >>> >>> -D >>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever actually produce the cash. I always see them talk about what a great deal something is but not sure I have ever seen one of them buy. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 30, 2021, at 2:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > He’ll have to use an alias as he’s already been kicked out. > > Sock puppet time. > > -D > >> … >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cars, Cars, Who Has the Cars?
That's crazy. Are they jacking up the prices on what they have? I'll probably go by the local stealer tomorrow if I go do errands, I'll see what their lot looks like although it is kinda small and they don't seem to have a big inventory there --FT On 7/1/21 5:33 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Was at the local MB dealer today. Lot looked like a ghost town. Chatted up the GM who was walking by when I was leaving and he said that they had fewer than 50 (new) cars in inventory and none on the way. He said his “pre-owned” people are out scouring the private market for cars to resell. It was a pretty surreal sight. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slightly scuffed 2003 ML320 - 145k miles - $2,500
That's a $1500 vehicle at most with the rust and missing bits. No interior pics either, probably trashed. AC? Probably is reasonably competent, but getting long in the tooth --FT On 7/1/21 5:51 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Scuffing due to... Naval maneuvers? Max Dillon Charleston SC Jul 1, 2021 4:15:33 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes : https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-2003-mercedes-benz-ml-obo/7344836348.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slightly scuffed 2003 ML320 - 145k miles - $2,500
Scuffing due to... Naval maneuvers? Max Dillon Charleston SC Jul 1, 2021 4:15:33 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes : > https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-2003-mercedes-benz-ml-obo/7344836348.html > > Allan > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cars, Cars, Who Has the Cars?
Was at the local MB dealer today. Lot looked like a ghost town. Chatted up the GM who was walking by when I was leaving and he said that they had fewer than 50 (new) cars in inventory and none on the way. He said his “pre-owned” people are out scouring the private market for cars to resell. It was a pretty surreal sight. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rebuilt 2014 E350 Cabrio - 83k miles - $21,000
"Priced below market" Not my sorta car but nice looking. https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/loveland-mercedes-e350-cabriolet-2014/7344841956.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Slightly scuffed 2003 ML320 - 145k miles - $2,500
https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-2003-mercedes-benz-ml-obo/7344836348.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB market - 2004 E500 wagon
I don’t think so. There are a couple for sale around me. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2021, at 1:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Are these rare? > > https://thembmarket.com/2004-mercedes-benz-e500-4matic-wagon > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MB market - 2004 E500 wagon
Are these rare? https://thembmarket.com/2004-mercedes-benz-e500-4matic-wagon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: For those with older (but not too old) Macs
For those with cracked floppies Dimitri can weld them to perfection again. On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 6:10 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Can I get it for my 1988 Mac ll? > > > Of course not. Never was an OSX for a 68K machine. > Doesn't mean there couldn't have been, of course. > NeXTStep, OSX's parent, was 68K. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Physics Was: OT - Ammo
But the lighter bullet will use a faster burning powder than the heavy bullet, and I wouldn't be surprised if most of the energy in the powder is lost to inefficiency. Greg > Energy in the bullet comes from whatever the charge has minus any losses. > Not sure how a smaller bullet could gain more energy. More velocity maybe > (M lower, V^2 higher) but energy is the same for a same powder load in > both rounds E1==E2== .5*M1*V1^2 == .5*M2*V2^2. M2 V2>V1 > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Jun 30, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Energy is 1/2 MV*V (V squared) where M is the bullet mass and V is >> bullet velocity. Momentum is MV which also is also equal to the impulse >> (force * time) needed to create the momentum. So for a given impulse >> (recoil) the lighter bullet will always have more energy (less M, more >> V). But with similar aerodynamic forces. A lighter bullet will lose >> energy (velocity) faster (same force, less mass). >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes >> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:37 PM >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Cc: Allan Streib >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo >> >> I know little about firearms but have seen the Ruger 57 showing up in my >> YouTube recommendations, etc. Any thoughts? Shoots 5.7x28mm, a lighter >> round but faster and with similar energy as 9mm. Supposedly less recoil >> (though if energy is similar I'm not sure that makes sense) and more >> accurate. >> >> It's apparently a more expensive round also, at least for now. >> >> Allan >> >>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 6:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> Looks like stuff is starting to trickle back into stock. Iâve been >>> able to get some decent quality 9mm lately, despite having to pay >>> $0.50/round. Ouch. Noticed there were tons of .38 special a few weeks >>> ago, but that seemed to evaporate. I wanted to stock back up for my >>> Ruger Blackhawk .357. Far more enjoyable shooting .38 special in it >>> than .357. More shots with less wrist soreness. >>> >>> -D >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Physics Was: OT - Ammo
Recoil is all about Newton's third law no? For a given amount of force at the front end you get an equal and opposite amount of force at the back end. Controlling recoil involves either shunting exhaust gasses backwards to counter it or having a heavier gun which is less impacted. -Curt On Thursday, July 1, 2021, 12:38:48 AM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: I was addressing the theoretical question about how a lighter bullet can have more energy with less recoil. In a specific case, barrel length, chamber pressure, and powder burn rate also control muzzle velocity. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 11:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Buggered Benzmail Subject: Re: [MBZ] Physics Was: OT - Ammo Energy in the bullet comes from whatever the charge has minus any losses. Not sure how a smaller bullet could gain more energy. More velocity maybe (M lower, V^2 higher) but energy is the same for a same powder load in both rounds E1==E2== .5*M1*V1^2 == .5*M2*V2^2. M2 V2>V1 --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 30, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > Energy is 1/2 MV*V (V squared) where M is the bullet mass and V is bullet > velocity. Momentum is MV which also is also equal to the impulse (force * > time) needed to create the momentum. So for a given impulse (recoil) the > lighter bullet will always have more energy (less M, more V). But with > similar aerodynamic forces. A lighter bullet will lose energy (velocity) > faster (same force, less mass). > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:37 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Allan Streib > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo > > I know little about firearms but have seen the Ruger 57 showing up in my > YouTube recommendations, etc. Any thoughts? Shoots 5.7x28mm, a lighter round > but faster and with similar energy as 9mm. Supposedly less recoil (though if > energy is similar I'm not sure that makes sense) and more accurate. > > It's apparently a more expensive round also, at least for now. > > Allan > >> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 6:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Looks like stuff is starting to trickle back into stock. I’ve been able to >> get some decent quality 9mm lately, despite having to pay $0.50/round. Ouch. >> Noticed there were tons of .38 special a few weeks ago, but that seemed to >> evaporate. I wanted to stock back up for my Ruger Blackhawk .357. Far more >> enjoyable shooting .38 special in it than .357. More shots with less wrist >> soreness. >> >> -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 E230 Cabrio - 140k miles - $16,900
Yeah those wheels do nothing for the car. If they fit on the R129 they would be a good addition --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 30, 2021, at 11:45 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > The wheels don't do it for me, proportions just look wrong. Original wheels > are included though. > > https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-1995-mercedes-e320/7344481257.html > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: For those with older (but not too old) Macs
> Can I get it for my 1988 Mac ll? Of course not. Never was an OSX for a 68K machine. Doesn't mean there couldn't have been, of course. NeXTStep, OSX's parent, was 68K. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
