Re: [MBZ] 1973 450SL - 72k mi - $11,000
I think so especially with the AC issue. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 10:13 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > a little pricey- no? > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 4:16 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: >> Pretty low miles and looks clean. Manual climate controls. Original radio. >> However, horn and the dashboard lights inop (maybe fuses?). Trip meter inop. >> AC inop, probably needs new compressor or at least a clutch. >> >> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/glen-ellyn-1973-mercedes-benz-450sl-450/7421167394.html >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1973 450SL - 72k mi - $11,000
a little pricey- no? On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 4:16 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Pretty low miles and looks clean. Manual climate controls. Original radio. > However, horn and the dashboard lights inop (maybe fuses?). Trip meter > inop. AC inop, probably needs new compressor or at least a clutch. > > > https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/glen-ellyn-1973-mercedes-benz-450sl-450/7421167394.html > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Interior Finish Issue
I agree this can be an issue. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 15, 2021, at 9:30 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Depending on when they stuck that paneling up, the mastic might have > asbestos in it. > Probably best to not make a powder of it, asbestos or no. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Interior Finish Issue
Except that demo is not clean! I have skim coated acres of wall and it’s really not that bad a process and by far the cheapest way to go and if done well yields the nicest looking walls! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 15, 2021, at 8:36 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have not been there nor done that, but I vote for Randy's solution as the > cleanest way to go. > >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 5:45 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> I would remove the damaged drywall and replace it with new drywall. It >> will provide an opportunity to upgrade insulation, electrical wiring and >> perhaps some of the plumbing. Drywall is not terribly expensive and it >> will likely be better than any repair that you can make to the existing >> mess. If you replace it, you won't need to worry about the windows and >> doors needing to be shimmed out etc. Rip out the old stuff yourself and >> attend to anything in the walls that needs attention and then hire >> someone to come in and put up the board and tape and mud it. They will >> do it really fast and it will look great when done. >> >> >>> On 15/12/2021 5:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> The house I bought in Flagstaff is a typical 1970s brick ranch, 3/2, >> 2300 SF or so. There were two owners prior to us. >>> >>> At some point in the past, one of the previous owners put wood paneling >> on the walls in the hallway and several bedrooms. They did this with a >> combination of finish nails and construction adhesive over the original >> drywall. Ugh. I have removed some of the paneling, exposing the remains of >> the construction adhesive and the holes from the ring shank finish nails >> they used. >>> >>> I would add, not that it matters, that one of the previous owners also >> painted the paneling. Yellow. Double ugh. >>> >>> So I’m wondering what the best approach to remediating this awful >> paneling might be. My thoughts: >>> >>> Remove the paneling and adhesive as best as possible. A lot of the >> adhesive remains are brittle and will come off the drywall, but in some >> cases it won’t or if it does it pulls the paper off with it. I figure I can >> skim coat the drywall and use some spray texture to cover these areas. It >> won’t look great, but it will be far better than painted paneling in our >> opinion. >>> >>> The only other possibility I can think of would be to put more drywall >> over the existing drywall to have a consistent surface. Either way I’ve got >> to pull things like door casing and base molding and reinstall or install >> new. I haven’t looked into it, but I'm wondering if there is some sort of >> thin drywall or panel material I could use. This would be a lot less labor >> intensive, for sure. >>> >>> I’m curious as to anyone’s experience with similar situations and how >> you dealt with it. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> -D >>> ___ >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Interior Finish Issue
This is my long term plan for the vast northern estate. The existing plaster will all go, we're going to spray foam the walls and then sheetrock over. Each wall gets at least 2 outlets with more in the kitchen. Sadly the upstairs is too short for ceiling fans... -Curt On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 09:08:50 PM EST, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: I have been there and done that multiple times [still part of a company that buys and refurbs homes that are rental income properties, presently own 42.] My suggestion: Clear out all furnishings, rip the drywall and offensive wall covering down to bare studs. With a crew that applies work ethic, should be done and broom clean in 2 days. [rent a dumpster and have it set handy to hold the trash.] Do the same with floor covering, whatever it is, carpet, tile, wood... get it out. While the walls are open, update ALL wiring, add circuits YOU want, place receptacles where YOU want them. Then call in an insulation crew, update the insulation. Then call in a drywall crew and hang all NEW drywall.. clean, straight, level, square. Do the ceilings at the same time, add extra modern insulation. Paint crew, hire them. Suddenly, the interior of the home is clean, straight, fresh. Put in the floor material of choice. Live like you own it, because now nothing is 1/2 done. You'll be glad you did. In the final cost of time and materials, it will cost you less. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 6:36 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I have not been there nor done that, but I vote for Randy's solution as the > cleanest way to go. > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 5:45 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I would remove the damaged drywall and replace it with new drywall. It > > will provide an opportunity to upgrade insulation, electrical wiring and > > perhaps some of the plumbing. Drywall is not terribly expensive and it > > will likely be better than any repair that you can make to the existing > > mess. If you replace it, you won't need to worry about the windows and > > doors needing to be shimmed out etc. Rip out the old stuff yourself and > > attend to anything in the walls that needs attention and then hire > > someone to come in and put up the board and tape and mud it. They will > > do it really fast and it will look great when done. > > > > > > On 15/12/2021 5:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > > The house I bought in Flagstaff is a typical 1970s brick ranch, 3/2, > > 2300 SF or so. There were two owners prior to us. > > > > > > At some point in the past, one of the previous owners put wood paneling > > on the walls in the hallway and several bedrooms. They did this with a > > combination of finish nails and construction adhesive over the original > > drywall. Ugh. I have removed some of the paneling, exposing the remains > of > > the construction adhesive and the holes from the ring shank finish nails > > they used. > > > > > > I would add, not that it matters, that one of the previous owners also > > painted the paneling. Yellow. Double ugh. > > > > > > So I’m wondering what the best approach to remediating this awful > > paneling might be. My thoughts: > > > > > > Remove the paneling and adhesive as best as possible. A lot of the > > adhesive remains are brittle and will come off the drywall, but in some > > cases it won’t or if it does it pulls the paper off with it. I figure I > can > > skim coat the drywall and use some spray texture to cover these areas. It > > won’t look great, but it will be far better than painted paneling in our > > opinion. > > > > > > The only other possibility I can think of would be to put more drywall > > over the existing drywall to have a consistent surface. Either way I’ve > got > > to pull things like door casing and base molding and reinstall or install > > new. I haven’t looked into it, but I'm wondering if there is some sort of > > thin drywall or panel material I could use. This would be a lot less > labor > > intensive, for sure. > > > > > > I’m curious as to anyone’s experience with similar situations and how > > you dealt with it. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > -D > > > ___ > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >
Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Interior Finish Issue
Depending on when they stuck that paneling up, the mastic might have asbestos in it. Probably best to not make a powder of it, asbestos or no. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Interior Finish Issue
I have been there and done that multiple times [still part of a company that buys and refurbs homes that are rental income properties, presently own 42.] My suggestion: Clear out all furnishings, rip the drywall and offensive wall covering down to bare studs. With a crew that applies work ethic, should be done and broom clean in 2 days. [rent a dumpster and have it set handy to hold the trash.] Do the same with floor covering, whatever it is, carpet, tile, wood... get it out. While the walls are open, update ALL wiring, add circuits YOU want, place receptacles where YOU want them. Then call in an insulation crew, update the insulation. Then call in a drywall crew and hang all NEW drywall.. clean, straight, level, square. Do the ceilings at the same time, add extra modern insulation. Paint crew, hire them. Suddenly, the interior of the home is clean, straight, fresh. Put in the floor material of choice. Live like you own it, because now nothing is 1/2 done. You'll be glad you did. In the final cost of time and materials, it will cost you less. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 6:36 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I have not been there nor done that, but I vote for Randy's solution as the > cleanest way to go. > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 5:45 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I would remove the damaged drywall and replace it with new drywall. It > > will provide an opportunity to upgrade insulation, electrical wiring and > > perhaps some of the plumbing. Drywall is not terribly expensive and it > > will likely be better than any repair that you can make to the existing > > mess. If you replace it, you won't need to worry about the windows and > > doors needing to be shimmed out etc. Rip out the old stuff yourself and > > attend to anything in the walls that needs attention and then hire > > someone to come in and put up the board and tape and mud it. They will > > do it really fast and it will look great when done. > > > > > > On 15/12/2021 5:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > > The house I bought in Flagstaff is a typical 1970s brick ranch, 3/2, > > 2300 SF or so. There were two owners prior to us. > > > > > > At some point in the past, one of the previous owners put wood paneling > > on the walls in the hallway and several bedrooms. They did this with a > > combination of finish nails and construction adhesive over the original > > drywall. Ugh. I have removed some of the paneling, exposing the remains > of > > the construction adhesive and the holes from the ring shank finish nails > > they used. > > > > > > I would add, not that it matters, that one of the previous owners also > > painted the paneling. Yellow. Double ugh. > > > > > > So I’m wondering what the best approach to remediating this awful > > paneling might be. My thoughts: > > > > > > Remove the paneling and adhesive as best as possible. A lot of the > > adhesive remains are brittle and will come off the drywall, but in some > > cases it won’t or if it does it pulls the paper off with it. I figure I > can > > skim coat the drywall and use some spray texture to cover these areas. It > > won’t look great, but it will be far better than painted paneling in our > > opinion. > > > > > > The only other possibility I can think of would be to put more drywall > > over the existing drywall to have a consistent surface. Either way I’ve > got > > to pull things like door casing and base molding and reinstall or install > > new. I haven’t looked into it, but I'm wondering if there is some sort of > > thin drywall or panel material I could use. This would be a lot less > labor > > intensive, for sure. > > > > > > I’m curious as to anyone’s experience with similar situations and how > > you dealt with it. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > -D > > > ___ > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Interior Finish Issue
I have not been there nor done that, but I vote for Randy's solution as the cleanest way to go. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 5:45 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I would remove the damaged drywall and replace it with new drywall. It > will provide an opportunity to upgrade insulation, electrical wiring and > perhaps some of the plumbing. Drywall is not terribly expensive and it > will likely be better than any repair that you can make to the existing > mess. If you replace it, you won't need to worry about the windows and > doors needing to be shimmed out etc. Rip out the old stuff yourself and > attend to anything in the walls that needs attention and then hire > someone to come in and put up the board and tape and mud it. They will > do it really fast and it will look great when done. > > > On 15/12/2021 5:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > The house I bought in Flagstaff is a typical 1970s brick ranch, 3/2, > 2300 SF or so. There were two owners prior to us. > > > > At some point in the past, one of the previous owners put wood paneling > on the walls in the hallway and several bedrooms. They did this with a > combination of finish nails and construction adhesive over the original > drywall. Ugh. I have removed some of the paneling, exposing the remains of > the construction adhesive and the holes from the ring shank finish nails > they used. > > > > I would add, not that it matters, that one of the previous owners also > painted the paneling. Yellow. Double ugh. > > > > So I’m wondering what the best approach to remediating this awful > paneling might be. My thoughts: > > > > Remove the paneling and adhesive as best as possible. A lot of the > adhesive remains are brittle and will come off the drywall, but in some > cases it won’t or if it does it pulls the paper off with it. I figure I can > skim coat the drywall and use some spray texture to cover these areas. It > won’t look great, but it will be far better than painted paneling in our > opinion. > > > > The only other possibility I can think of would be to put more drywall > over the existing drywall to have a consistent surface. Either way I’ve got > to pull things like door casing and base molding and reinstall or install > new. I haven’t looked into it, but I'm wondering if there is some sort of > thin drywall or panel material I could use. This would be a lot less labor > intensive, for sure. > > > > I’m curious as to anyone’s experience with similar situations and how > you dealt with it. > > > > Thanks! > > > > -D > > ___ > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
The w220 rivals a high end Hyundai in fit, finish and quality. When it was functional, it was a joy to drive and I was displeased with how it developed a cascade failure of major systems after a dozen years. Transmission failures, cats died, Media center kacked, suspension dropped, computers crashed, cluster (third one, two prior were under warrantee) went blank. By the time I got rid of it the only thing still working were the tires clay monroe 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 2014 ‘yota Highlander - Haggis Retired- 1986 SDL- Polei 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1982 SD - Allen 1976 300D - Das Blei - Lead Sled 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life against a dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > On Dec 15, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > W220. The air suspension on this car when it works well gives an amazing > ride. The car handles like it’s on rails which again is amazing for such a > large car. Sam Peterson who was/is (?) on this list has one and I drove it > and wow! And he claims that the air suspension issues are fairly easy to fix > when broken and parts and rebuild kits no longer expensive. The real issue > with this chassis is rust but if kept off salty roads it’s not an issue. > People claim that the interior feels cheap but I can’t really agree with that > either. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 14, 2021, at 9:49 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> But pricey, again. Maybe why it’s been up for nearly 30 days. Is there >> anything of significance to watch out for on one of these? 4Matic would be >> nice… >> >> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/wesley-chapel-2006-mercedes-benz-s500/7409080638.html >> >> -D >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Interior Finish Issue
I purchased a home with sheet panels over unfinished drywall. No adhesive used, not much beyond mud over drywall nail heads. We pulled it all off/down (ceiling got paneled) removed trim (it was unfinished and low grade) and unhooked the baseboard heaters, as well as the odd partitioning wall that divided the space into a pair of 8x10 alcoves (it pretended to be closets). The floor was asbestos tile. The solutions was to mud and tape all the old sheetrock to seal it from air leakage, then to hang ¼ inch on the walls and ½ inch on the ceiling using screws. Mud and tape with a full skim finish coat over all the wallboard. We kept the electric boxes, replaced the sockets and used longer screws to secure them. The ceiling got an extender to the box and hung a new fixture. The floor we laid parquet over asbestos (GIANT PITA) after rolling paint on the ceiling and walls. I prepainted the trim bits and FiL played finish carpenter since he had tools. The room was neither plumb nor square but the molding hid the worst of it. Clay inter urinas et faeces nascimur > On Dec 15, 2021, at 2:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > The house I bought in Flagstaff is a typical 1970s brick ranch, 3/2, 2300 SF > or so. There were two owners prior to us. > > At some point in the past, one of the previous owners put wood paneling on > the walls in the hallway and several bedrooms. They did this with a > combination of finish nails and construction adhesive over the original > drywall. Ugh. I have removed some of the paneling, exposing the remains of > the construction adhesive and the holes from the ring shank finish nails they > used. > > I would add, not that it matters, that one of the previous owners also > painted the paneling. Yellow. Double ugh. > > So I’m wondering what the best approach to remediating this awful paneling > might be. My thoughts: > > Remove the paneling and adhesive as best as possible. A lot of the adhesive > remains are brittle and will come off the drywall, but in some cases it won’t > or if it does it pulls the paper off with it. I figure I can skim coat the > drywall and use some spray texture to cover these areas. It won’t look great, > but it will be far better than painted paneling in our opinion. > > The only other possibility I can think of would be to put more drywall over > the existing drywall to have a consistent surface. Either way I’ve got to > pull things like door casing and base molding and reinstall or install new. I > haven’t looked into it, but I'm wondering if there is some sort of thin > drywall or panel material I could use. This would be a lot less labor > intensive, for sure. > > I’m curious as to anyone’s experience with similar situations and how you > dealt with it. > > Thanks! > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
W220. The air suspension on this car when it works well gives an amazing ride. The car handles like it’s on rails which again is amazing for such a large car. Sam Peterson who was/is (?) on this list has one and I drove it and wow! And he claims that the air suspension issues are fairly easy to fix when broken and parts and rebuild kits no longer expensive. The real issue with this chassis is rust but if kept off salty roads it’s not an issue. People claim that the interior feels cheap but I can’t really agree with that either. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 14, 2021, at 9:49 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > But pricey, again. Maybe why it’s been up for nearly 30 days. Is there > anything of significance to watch out for on one of these? 4Matic would be > nice… > > https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/wesley-chapel-2006-mercedes-benz-s500/7409080638.html > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
Kinda, they marketed a few really low end models that were actually rebadged Mazdas. That kind of badge engineering dilutes a high end brand... -Curt On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 06:35:54 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Jaguar, on the other hand, improved their reliability when acquired by Ford and the styling hasn't suffered. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 5:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yet it seems that they refused to acknowlege that. They never started > bringing over the smaller more economical cars they sell in Europe. I'd > have considered buying an A class diesel with a manual transmission but > AFAIK they were never offered in the US. > > Now they will be all-electric in a few years, which will keep me in the > deep end of the used car market. > > Allan > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > > Around the time of the Chrysler merger Mercedes lost it's status as a > > premiere car. Instead it became a thing you could lease to show > > everybody how rich you were, or really how rich you were pretending to > > be. > > Nobody really aspires to a Mercedes anymore because you really don't > > have to, they're pretty easy to get. Now it's a Bentley or Roller or > > one of the high end electrics... > > -Curt > > > > On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 03:01:41 PM EST, Randy Bennell via > > Mercedes wrote: > > > > I would also suggest that MB felt a need to be in tune with modern > > styling. They no doubt wanted to and felt a need to appeal to the > > younger folks. > > There is a lot of money invested in vehicles before they hit the > > showroom floors and mistakes are very costly. > > > > > > > > On 15/12/2021 1:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > >> I always thought the reason that all cars started looking alike in the > late 1990s/early 2000s at least in terms of the general "jellybean" body > shape was that is what tested best in the wind tunnel, and if it got an > extra MPG or shaved a fraction of a second off the 0-60 time, it was seen > as worth doing. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 2:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > >>> I think it’s best to qualify appearances based on time or vintage. The > >>> W108 and W109 sedans were works of art. The W126 LWB cars were equally > >>> beautiful and functional. I think you could say much the same for the > >>> W124s for their time period as well. Certainly more angular than > >>> previous models, but that design was functionally excellent as well. > >>> > >>> The W210s (I think) show a break where MB seemed to be bending to the > >>> will of the masses when it came to styling in that they look very much > >>> like the “jellybeans” of domestic cars during that time, like a Mercury > >>> Sable/Ford Taurus. > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > For me, the W108 and 109 sedans Tower above all Mercedes saloons of > the > modern era > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 1:51 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > >> I dislike most MBs since the 124. > > I think the W210 from the nose to just before the wiper looks good. > > Saw an aerial shot of an MB (on TV) that I though looked very nice. > > It was a W126, so not surprised. I think S124 wagons are gorgeous, > > the other 124s not so much. I think Ford did a nice job with the > R129. > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Interior Finish Issue
Ugh, I have that stuff in my house too, but at least it's cherry and pretty nice and staying up. There is one more (expensive) proposition, since these are interior walls, and that is to pull it all down and replace it. Last resort, I think, but better than having all the door trim shimmed out. Double drywall will make the house much quieter though! I would pull some down and see how well you can clean it up and skim coat. Worst case the wall will be "patchy". I'd do the smallest room first to see how it works before the hallway where you have to look at it every day. At least it's not like all those old houses in Bloomington, IN that got converted into student rentals where crap grade masonite "paneling" was nailed up through the plaster. Usually broke enough that over a few years the whole mess came down. Peter On Dec 15, 2021, at 5:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > The house I bought in Flagstaff is a typical 1970s brick ranch, 3/2, 2300 SF > or so. There were two owners prior to us. > > At some point in the past, one of the previous owners put wood paneling on > the walls in the hallway and several bedrooms. They did this with a > combination of finish nails and construction adhesive over the original > drywall. Ugh. I have removed some of the paneling, exposing the remains of > the construction adhesive and the holes from the ring shank finish nails they > used. > > I would add, not that it matters, that one of the previous owners also > painted the paneling. Yellow. Double ugh. > > So I’m wondering what the best approach to remediating this awful paneling > might be. My thoughts: > > Remove the paneling and adhesive as best as possible. A lot of the adhesive > remains are brittle and will come off the drywall, but in some cases it won’t > or if it does it pulls the paper off with it. I figure I can skim coat the > drywall and use some spray texture to cover these areas. It won’t look great, > but it will be far better than painted paneling in our opinion. > > The only other possibility I can think of would be to put more drywall over > the existing drywall to have a consistent surface. Either way I’ve got to > pull things like door casing and base molding and reinstall or install new. I > haven’t looked into it, but I'm wondering if there is some sort of thin > drywall or panel material I could use. This would be a lot less labor > intensive, for sure. > > I’m curious as to anyone’s experience with similar situations and how you > dealt with it. > > Thanks! > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Interior Finish Issue
I would remove the damaged drywall and replace it with new drywall. It will provide an opportunity to upgrade insulation, electrical wiring and perhaps some of the plumbing. Drywall is not terribly expensive and it will likely be better than any repair that you can make to the existing mess. If you replace it, you won't need to worry about the windows and doors needing to be shimmed out etc. Rip out the old stuff yourself and attend to anything in the walls that needs attention and then hire someone to come in and put up the board and tape and mud it. They will do it really fast and it will look great when done. On 15/12/2021 5:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: The house I bought in Flagstaff is a typical 1970s brick ranch, 3/2, 2300 SF or so. There were two owners prior to us. At some point in the past, one of the previous owners put wood paneling on the walls in the hallway and several bedrooms. They did this with a combination of finish nails and construction adhesive over the original drywall. Ugh. I have removed some of the paneling, exposing the remains of the construction adhesive and the holes from the ring shank finish nails they used. I would add, not that it matters, that one of the previous owners also painted the paneling. Yellow. Double ugh. So I’m wondering what the best approach to remediating this awful paneling might be. My thoughts: Remove the paneling and adhesive as best as possible. A lot of the adhesive remains are brittle and will come off the drywall, but in some cases it won’t or if it does it pulls the paper off with it. I figure I can skim coat the drywall and use some spray texture to cover these areas. It won’t look great, but it will be far better than painted paneling in our opinion. The only other possibility I can think of would be to put more drywall over the existing drywall to have a consistent surface. Either way I’ve got to pull things like door casing and base molding and reinstall or install new. I haven’t looked into it, but I'm wondering if there is some sort of thin drywall or panel material I could use. This would be a lot less labor intensive, for sure. I’m curious as to anyone’s experience with similar situations and how you dealt with it. Thanks! -D ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Home Interior Finish Issue
Skim coat the drywall. Do a few coats. Knock off the ridges left by the trowel between coats with a knife. No need to sand between coats if you’re good like me . Just light sanding on final coat. Use circular sweeping motions with the trowel or large knife like the pros do. Don’t do wall texture- it’s ugly and passé. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 15, 2021, at 6:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > The house I bought in Flagstaff is a typical 1970s brick ranch, 3/2, 2300 SF > or so. There were two owners prior to us. > > At some point in the past, one of the previous owners put wood paneling on > the walls in the hallway and several bedrooms. They did this with a > combination of finish nails and construction adhesive over the original > drywall. Ugh. I have removed some of the paneling, exposing the remains of > the construction adhesive and the holes from the ring shank finish nails they > used. > > I would add, not that it matters, that one of the previous owners also > painted the paneling. Yellow. Double ugh. > > So I’m wondering what the best approach to remediating this awful paneling > might be. My thoughts: > > Remove the paneling and adhesive as best as possible. A lot of the adhesive > remains are brittle and will come off the drywall, but in some cases it won’t > or if it does it pulls the paper off with it. I figure I can skim coat the > drywall and use some spray texture to cover these areas. It won’t look great, > but it will be far better than painted paneling in our opinion. > > The only other possibility I can think of would be to put more drywall over > the existing drywall to have a consistent surface. Either way I’ve got to > pull things like door casing and base molding and reinstall or install new. I > haven’t looked into it, but I'm wondering if there is some sort of thin > drywall or panel material I could use. This would be a lot less labor > intensive, for sure. > > I’m curious as to anyone’s experience with similar situations and how you > dealt with it. > > Thanks! > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
Jaguar, on the other hand, improved their reliability when acquired by Ford and the styling hasn't suffered. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 5:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yet it seems that they refused to acknowlege that. They never started > bringing over the smaller more economical cars they sell in Europe. I'd > have considered buying an A class diesel with a manual transmission but > AFAIK they were never offered in the US. > > Now they will be all-electric in a few years, which will keep me in the > deep end of the used car market. > > Allan > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > > Around the time of the Chrysler merger Mercedes lost it's status as a > > premiere car. Instead it became a thing you could lease to show > > everybody how rich you were, or really how rich you were pretending to > > be. > > Nobody really aspires to a Mercedes anymore because you really don't > > have to, they're pretty easy to get. Now it's a Bentley or Roller or > > one of the high end electrics... > > -Curt > > > > On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 03:01:41 PM EST, Randy Bennell via > > Mercedes wrote: > > > > I would also suggest that MB felt a need to be in tune with modern > > styling. They no doubt wanted to and felt a need to appeal to the > > younger folks. > > There is a lot of money invested in vehicles before they hit the > > showroom floors and mistakes are very costly. > > > > > > > > On 15/12/2021 1:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > >> I always thought the reason that all cars started looking alike in the > late 1990s/early 2000s at least in terms of the general "jellybean" body > shape was that is what tested best in the wind tunnel, and if it got an > extra MPG or shaved a fraction of a second off the 0-60 time, it was seen > as worth doing. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 2:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > >>> I think it’s best to qualify appearances based on time or vintage. The > >>> W108 and W109 sedans were works of art. The W126 LWB cars were equally > >>> beautiful and functional. I think you could say much the same for the > >>> W124s for their time period as well. Certainly more angular than > >>> previous models, but that design was functionally excellent as well. > >>> > >>> The W210s (I think) show a break where MB seemed to be bending to the > >>> will of the masses when it came to styling in that they look very much > >>> like the “jellybeans” of domestic cars during that time, like a Mercury > >>> Sable/Ford Taurus. > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > For me, the W108 and 109 sedans Tower above all Mercedes saloons of > the > modern era > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 1:51 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > >> I dislike most MBs since the 124. > > I think the W210 from the nose to just before the wiper looks good. > > Saw an aerial shot of an MB (on TV) that I though looked very nice. > > It was a W126, so not surprised. I think S124 wagons are gorgeous, > > the other 124s not so much. I think Ford did a nice job with the > R129. > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - Home Interior Finish Issue
The house I bought in Flagstaff is a typical 1970s brick ranch, 3/2, 2300 SF or so. There were two owners prior to us. At some point in the past, one of the previous owners put wood paneling on the walls in the hallway and several bedrooms. They did this with a combination of finish nails and construction adhesive over the original drywall. Ugh. I have removed some of the paneling, exposing the remains of the construction adhesive and the holes from the ring shank finish nails they used. I would add, not that it matters, that one of the previous owners also painted the paneling. Yellow. Double ugh. So I’m wondering what the best approach to remediating this awful paneling might be. My thoughts: Remove the paneling and adhesive as best as possible. A lot of the adhesive remains are brittle and will come off the drywall, but in some cases it won’t or if it does it pulls the paper off with it. I figure I can skim coat the drywall and use some spray texture to cover these areas. It won’t look great, but it will be far better than painted paneling in our opinion. The only other possibility I can think of would be to put more drywall over the existing drywall to have a consistent surface. Either way I’ve got to pull things like door casing and base molding and reinstall or install new. I haven’t looked into it, but I'm wondering if there is some sort of thin drywall or panel material I could use. This would be a lot less labor intensive, for sure. I’m curious as to anyone’s experience with similar situations and how you dealt with it. Thanks! -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
Yet it seems that they refused to acknowlege that. They never started bringing over the smaller more economical cars they sell in Europe. I'd have considered buying an A class diesel with a manual transmission but AFAIK they were never offered in the US. Now they will be all-electric in a few years, which will keep me in the deep end of the used car market. Allan On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Around the time of the Chrysler merger Mercedes lost it's status as a > premiere car. Instead it became a thing you could lease to show > everybody how rich you were, or really how rich you were pretending to > be. > Nobody really aspires to a Mercedes anymore because you really don't > have to, they're pretty easy to get. Now it's a Bentley or Roller or > one of the high end electrics... > -Curt > > On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 03:01:41 PM EST, Randy Bennell via > Mercedes wrote: > > I would also suggest that MB felt a need to be in tune with modern > styling. They no doubt wanted to and felt a need to appeal to the > younger folks. > There is a lot of money invested in vehicles before they hit the > showroom floors and mistakes are very costly. > > > > On 15/12/2021 1:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> I always thought the reason that all cars started looking alike in the late >> 1990s/early 2000s at least in terms of the general "jellybean" body shape >> was that is what tested best in the wind tunnel, and if it got an extra MPG >> or shaved a fraction of a second off the 0-60 time, it was seen as worth >> doing. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 2:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> I think it’s best to qualify appearances based on time or vintage. The >>> W108 and W109 sedans were works of art. The W126 LWB cars were equally >>> beautiful and functional. I think you could say much the same for the >>> W124s for their time period as well. Certainly more angular than >>> previous models, but that design was functionally excellent as well. >>> >>> The W210s (I think) show a break where MB seemed to be bending to the >>> will of the masses when it came to styling in that they look very much >>> like the “jellybeans” of domestic cars during that time, like a Mercury >>> Sable/Ford Taurus. >>> >>> -D >>> On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: For me, the W108 and 109 sedans Tower above all Mercedes saloons of the modern era On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 1:51 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >> I dislike most MBs since the 124. > I think the W210 from the nose to just before the wiper looks good. > Saw an aerial shot of an MB (on TV) that I though looked very nice. > It was a W126, so not surprised. I think S124 wagons are gorgeous, > the other 124s not so much. I think Ford did a nice job with the R129. > > -- Jim > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
That and with the introduction of the Crap class models and MBUSA leasing, their cars became commodities just like any other car. -D > On Dec 15, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Around the time of the Chrysler merger Mercedes lost it's status as a > premiere car. Instead it became a thing you could lease to show everybody how > rich you were, or really how rich you were pretending to be. > Nobody really aspires to a Mercedes anymore because you really don't have to, > they're pretty easy to get. Now it's a Bentley or Roller or one of the high > end electrics... > -Curt > >On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 03:01:41 PM EST, Randy Bennell via > Mercedes wrote: > > I would also suggest that MB felt a need to be in tune with modern > styling. They no doubt wanted to and felt a need to appeal to the > younger folks. > There is a lot of money invested in vehicles before they hit the > showroom floors and mistakes are very costly. > > > > On 15/12/2021 1:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> I always thought the reason that all cars started looking alike in the late >> 1990s/early 2000s at least in terms of the general "jellybean" body shape >> was that is what tested best in the wind tunnel, and if it got an extra MPG >> or shaved a fraction of a second off the 0-60 time, it was seen as worth >> doing. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 2:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> I think it’s best to qualify appearances based on time or vintage. The >>> W108 and W109 sedans were works of art. The W126 LWB cars were equally >>> beautiful and functional. I think you could say much the same for the >>> W124s for their time period as well. Certainly more angular than >>> previous models, but that design was functionally excellent as well. >>> >>> The W210s (I think) show a break where MB seemed to be bending to the >>> will of the masses when it came to styling in that they look very much >>> like the “jellybeans” of domestic cars during that time, like a Mercury >>> Sable/Ford Taurus. >>> >>> -D >>> On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: For me, the W108 and 109 sedans Tower above all Mercedes saloons of the modern era On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 1:51 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >> I dislike most MBs since the 124. > I think the W210 from the nose to just before the wiper looks good. > Saw an aerial shot of an MB (on TV) that I though looked very nice. > It was a W126, so not surprised. I think S124 wagons are gorgeous, > the other 124s not so much. I think Ford did a nice job with the R129. > > -- Jim > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
Around the time of the Chrysler merger Mercedes lost it's status as a premiere car. Instead it became a thing you could lease to show everybody how rich you were, or really how rich you were pretending to be. Nobody really aspires to a Mercedes anymore because you really don't have to, they're pretty easy to get. Now it's a Bentley or Roller or one of the high end electrics... -Curt On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 03:01:41 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: I would also suggest that MB felt a need to be in tune with modern styling. They no doubt wanted to and felt a need to appeal to the younger folks. There is a lot of money invested in vehicles before they hit the showroom floors and mistakes are very costly. On 15/12/2021 1:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > I always thought the reason that all cars started looking alike in the late > 1990s/early 2000s at least in terms of the general "jellybean" body shape was > that is what tested best in the wind tunnel, and if it got an extra MPG or > shaved a fraction of a second off the 0-60 time, it was seen as worth doing. > > > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 2:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> I think it’s best to qualify appearances based on time or vintage. The >> W108 and W109 sedans were works of art. The W126 LWB cars were equally >> beautiful and functional. I think you could say much the same for the >> W124s for their time period as well. Certainly more angular than >> previous models, but that design was functionally excellent as well. >> >> The W210s (I think) show a break where MB seemed to be bending to the >> will of the masses when it came to styling in that they look very much >> like the “jellybeans” of domestic cars during that time, like a Mercury >> Sable/Ford Taurus. >> >> -D >> >>> On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> For me, the W108 and 109 sedans Tower above all Mercedes saloons of the >>> modern era >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 1:51 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes >>> >>> wrote: >>> > I dislike most MBs since the 124. I think the W210 from the nose to just before the wiper looks good. Saw an aerial shot of an MB (on TV) that I though looked very nice. It was a W126, so not surprised. I think S124 wagons are gorgeous, the other 124s not so much. I think Ford did a nice job with the R129. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2000 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Wagon 4D,$1,500
correct --FT On 12/15/21 4:20 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: As long as they aren't rusting? On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Probably, but the 210 are relatively easy to fix and keep running --FT On 12/15/21 4:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Is this model going to break down? On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 3:02 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: somebody needs to snatch this one https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/663382675023154 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2000 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Wagon 4D,$1,500
Exactly. Nearly 211k on my 1998 W210 wagon and it’s been great for over 30k. I would walk out to the garage, get in it and drive it anywhere. -D > On Dec 15, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > As long as they aren't rusting? > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >> Probably, but the 210 are relatively easy to fix and keep running >> >> --FT >> >> On 12/15/21 4:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >>> Is this model going to break down? >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 3:02 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>>somebody needs to snatch this one >>> >>>https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/663382675023154 >>> >>>-- >>>--FT >>>___ >>>http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>>To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>>To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> -- >> --FT >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2000 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Wagon 4D,$1,500
As long as they aren't rusting? On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > Probably, but the 210 are relatively easy to fix and keep running > > --FT > > On 12/15/21 4:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> Is this model going to break down? >> >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 3:02 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> somebody needs to snatch this one >> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/663382675023154 >> >> -- >> --FT >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2000 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Wagon 4D,$1,500
Probably, but the 210 are relatively easy to fix and keep running --FT On 12/15/21 4:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Is this model going to break down? On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 3:02 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: somebody needs to snatch this one https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/663382675023154 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1973 450SL - 72k mi - $11,000
Pretty low miles and looks clean. Manual climate controls. Original radio. However, horn and the dashboard lights inop (maybe fuses?). Trip meter inop. AC inop, probably needs new compressor or at least a clutch. https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/glen-ellyn-1973-mercedes-benz-450sl-450/7421167394.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] gots new air shacks 2006 Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class CLS 500 Coupe 4D, $6, 000
Air shack or love shack? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SOryJvTAGs On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 3:13 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > only thing it needs is to be level from the air shacks > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/444728297232773 > > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2000 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Wagon 4D,$1,500
> Is this model going to break down? Of course! It's a car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2000 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Wagon 4D,$1,500
Is this model going to break down? On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 3:02 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > somebody needs to snatch this one > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/663382675023154 > > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
And they succeeded wildly, judging by the sheer number of SUVs sporting the tristar one sees everywhere. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 3:01 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I would also suggest that MB felt a need to be in tune with modern > styling. They no doubt wanted to and felt a need to appeal to the > younger folks. > There is a lot of money invested in vehicles before they hit the > showroom floors and mistakes are very costly. > > > > On 15/12/2021 1:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > > I always thought the reason that all cars started looking alike in the > late 1990s/early 2000s at least in terms of the general "jellybean" body > shape was that is what tested best in the wind tunnel, and if it got an > extra MPG or shaved a fraction of a second off the 0-60 time, it was seen > as worth doing. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 2:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > >> I think it’s best to qualify appearances based on time or vintage. The > >> W108 and W109 sedans were works of art. The W126 LWB cars were equally > >> beautiful and functional. I think you could say much the same for the > >> W124s for their time period as well. Certainly more angular than > >> previous models, but that design was functionally excellent as well. > >> > >> The W210s (I think) show a break where MB seemed to be bending to the > >> will of the masses when it came to styling in that they look very much > >> like the “jellybeans” of domestic cars during that time, like a Mercury > >> Sable/Ford Taurus. > >> > >> -D > >> > >>> On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> For me, the W108 and 109 sedans Tower above all Mercedes saloons of the > >>> modern era > >>> > >>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 1:51 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > I dislike most MBs since the 124. > I think the W210 from the nose to just before the wiper looks good. > Saw an aerial shot of an MB (on TV) that I though looked very nice. > It was a W126, so not surprised. I think S124 wagons are gorgeous, > the other 124s not so much. I think Ford did a nice job with the > R129. > > -- Jim > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1989 300E - as is/where is - $800
Will not respond via email !!! https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/mason-1989-mercedes-benz-300e/7421105145.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1983 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class Roadster 2D,$24,500
A little tidying in the engine bay would make it more presentable, but $24.5k??? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/474015777480125 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Good car dose run and drive can crake it up for you 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $3, 000
Why is it on a trailer? Why is there a seat behind it? Why does this look like a C-class? What kind of drugs is Josh using? Should I call Farah & Farah Personal Injury Attorneys? So many questions... https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/234952735437374 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] runs and turns on - a baby 2003 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class, $3, 999
Please help me understand what is going on with posting a car sitting on ramps. Oh, and BTW, it's a S500 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/285220856901228 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Stomp on it and bang on it with a baseball bat 2001 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S 600 Sedan 4D, $2, 000
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[MBZ] gots new air shacks 2006 Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class CLS 500 Coupe 4D, $6, 000
only thing it needs is to be level from the air shacks https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/444728297232773 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] light hit on rear hatch 2008 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 350 4MATIC Wagon 4D, $2, 500
Some shade tree body work and yer good ta go. Or just drive it as is and not worry about your image https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/4574507242627621 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] This would be a good deal 2010 Mercedes-Benz M-Class ML 550 Sport Utility 4D, $7, 500
even with 228,000 miles, black/black, nice spec, good condition St Simon's Island is a very upscale community https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1089905388411546 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] i think the transmission is slipping but i have no idea.2 002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class, $1, 200
LOWEST IM GOING IS 900 ITS STILL DRIVABLE! https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/396835395561678 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2000 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Wagon 4D,$1,500
somebody needs to snatch this one https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/663382675023154 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
I would also suggest that MB felt a need to be in tune with modern styling. They no doubt wanted to and felt a need to appeal to the younger folks. There is a lot of money invested in vehicles before they hit the showroom floors and mistakes are very costly. On 15/12/2021 1:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I always thought the reason that all cars started looking alike in the late 1990s/early 2000s at least in terms of the general "jellybean" body shape was that is what tested best in the wind tunnel, and if it got an extra MPG or shaved a fraction of a second off the 0-60 time, it was seen as worth doing. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 2:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I think it’s best to qualify appearances based on time or vintage. The W108 and W109 sedans were works of art. The W126 LWB cars were equally beautiful and functional. I think you could say much the same for the W124s for their time period as well. Certainly more angular than previous models, but that design was functionally excellent as well. The W210s (I think) show a break where MB seemed to be bending to the will of the masses when it came to styling in that they look very much like the “jellybeans” of domestic cars during that time, like a Mercury Sable/Ford Taurus. -D On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: For me, the W108 and 109 sedans Tower above all Mercedes saloons of the modern era On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 1:51 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: I dislike most MBs since the 124. I think the W210 from the nose to just before the wiper looks good. Saw an aerial shot of an MB (on TV) that I though looked very nice. It was a W126, so not surprised. I think S124 wagons are gorgeous, the other 124s not so much. I think Ford did a nice job with the R129. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
No doubt. -D > On Dec 15, 2021, at 2:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > I always thought the reason that all cars started looking alike in the late > 1990s/early 2000s at least in terms of the general "jellybean" body shape was > that is what tested best in the wind tunnel, and if it got an extra MPG or > shaved a fraction of a second off the 0-60 time, it was seen as worth doing. > > > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 2:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> I think it’s best to qualify appearances based on time or vintage. The >> W108 and W109 sedans were works of art. The W126 LWB cars were equally >> beautiful and functional. I think you could say much the same for the >> W124s for their time period as well. Certainly more angular than >> previous models, but that design was functionally excellent as well. >> >> The W210s (I think) show a break where MB seemed to be bending to the >> will of the masses when it came to styling in that they look very much >> like the “jellybeans” of domestic cars during that time, like a Mercury >> Sable/Ford Taurus. >> >> -D >> >>> On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> For me, the W108 and 109 sedans Tower above all Mercedes saloons of the >>> modern era >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 1:51 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes >>> >>> wrote: >>> > I dislike most MBs since the 124. I think the W210 from the nose to just before the wiper looks good. Saw an aerial shot of an MB (on TV) that I though looked very nice. It was a W126, so not surprised. I think S124 wagons are gorgeous, the other 124s not so much. I think Ford did a nice job with the R129. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
I always thought the reason that all cars started looking alike in the late 1990s/early 2000s at least in terms of the general "jellybean" body shape was that is what tested best in the wind tunnel, and if it got an extra MPG or shaved a fraction of a second off the 0-60 time, it was seen as worth doing. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 2:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > I think it’s best to qualify appearances based on time or vintage. The > W108 and W109 sedans were works of art. The W126 LWB cars were equally > beautiful and functional. I think you could say much the same for the > W124s for their time period as well. Certainly more angular than > previous models, but that design was functionally excellent as well. > > The W210s (I think) show a break where MB seemed to be bending to the > will of the masses when it came to styling in that they look very much > like the “jellybeans” of domestic cars during that time, like a Mercury > Sable/Ford Taurus. > > -D > >> On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> For me, the W108 and 109 sedans Tower above all Mercedes saloons of the >> modern era >> >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 1:51 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes >> wrote: >> I dislike most MBs since the 124. >>> >>> I think the W210 from the nose to just before the wiper looks good. >>> Saw an aerial shot of an MB (on TV) that I though looked very nice. >>> It was a W126, so not surprised. I think S124 wagons are gorgeous, >>> the other 124s not so much. I think Ford did a nice job with the R129. >>> >>> -- Jim >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
The Audi 5000 and W124 were very aerodynamic for the 1980s, but the W124 managed to pull it off without looking more aero than the W201. The W210 had a surprisingly low Cd, at least in sedan form. A big improvement over the W124 IIRC, but it brought MB into the 'form follows function' category of styling. On 2021-12-15 14:40, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I think it’s best to qualify appearances based on time or vintage. The W108 and W109 sedans were works of art. The W126 LWB cars were equally beautiful and functional. I think you could say much the same for the W124s for their time period as well. Certainly more angular than previous models, but that design was functionally excellent as well. The W210s (I think) show a break where MB seemed to be bending to the will of the masses when it came to styling in that they look very much like the “jellybeans” of domestic cars during that time, like a Mercury Sable/Ford Taurus. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
I think it’s best to qualify appearances based on time or vintage. The W108 and W109 sedans were works of art. The W126 LWB cars were equally beautiful and functional. I think you could say much the same for the W124s for their time period as well. Certainly more angular than previous models, but that design was functionally excellent as well. The W210s (I think) show a break where MB seemed to be bending to the will of the masses when it came to styling in that they look very much like the “jellybeans” of domestic cars during that time, like a Mercury Sable/Ford Taurus. -D > On Dec 15, 2021, at 1:53 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > For me, the W108 and 109 sedans Tower above all Mercedes saloons of the > modern era > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 1:51 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > >>> I dislike most MBs since the 124. >> >> I think the W210 from the nose to just before the wiper looks good. >> Saw an aerial shot of an MB (on TV) that I though looked very nice. >> It was a W126, so not surprised. I think S124 wagons are gorgeous, >> the other 124s not so much. I think Ford did a nice job with the R129. >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
For me, the W108 and 109 sedans Tower above all Mercedes saloons of the modern era On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 1:51 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > > I dislike most MBs since the 124. > > I think the W210 from the nose to just before the wiper looks good. > Saw an aerial shot of an MB (on TV) that I though looked very nice. > It was a W126, so not surprised. I think S124 wagons are gorgeous, > the other 124s not so much. I think Ford did a nice job with the R129. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
> I dislike most MBs since the 124. I think the W210 from the nose to just before the wiper looks good. Saw an aerial shot of an MB (on TV) that I though looked very nice. It was a W126, so not surprised. I think S124 wagons are gorgeous, the other 124s not so much. I think Ford did a nice job with the R129. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
I liked driving the W124, but they are all ugly. Lastt good looking MB sedans were the W126s. I don't like the W123 for that matter, the W114/5 is much better. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 10:42 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I dislike most MBs since the 124. I might consider an SL but other than > that they're all gross. The current GLS looks like a Volvo... > I'd take a G wagen if somebody wanted to give me one... > > -Curt > > On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 10:55:12 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel > via Mercedes wrote: > > IMO the styling of Mercedes sedans since 1986 has lacked any aesthetic > appeal. > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:27 AM mitch--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > On 2021-12-15 08:20, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > > I like this, it makes it easy to tell. My knowledge of the various > > > sedan chassis’ numbers from 2000-2008 or so is sketchy at best. Never > > > could sort out the differences between the W211/220/221. > > > > The W203 are kinda eggy, but I think they're easy to tell from w220, > > just like the reclined W211 are easy to tell from the more vertical > > W210. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mechanic Special: 2003 and 2002 Benzrty - $1,500 ea
Or, worse than that? Warped heads, or intake manifold etc. On 15/12/2021 11:02 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Let's assume it's overheated at least once. For this engine, does that mean head gasket problems are likely? On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 8:12 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: Does the M112 have a bad water pump, or a bad water leak, or a bad water leak in the water pump? What are the chances of a blown head gasket? On 2021-12-14 23:28, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Oops... here's the link https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-mechanic-special-2003-and/7420942739.html ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mechanic Special: 2003 and 2002 Benzrty - $1,500 ea
Let's assume it's overheated at least once. For this engine, does that mean head gasket problems are likely? On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, at 8:12 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > Does the M112 have a bad water pump, or a bad water leak, or a bad water > leak in the water pump? > > What are the chances of a blown head gasket? > > On 2021-12-14 23:28, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> Oops... here's the link >> >> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-mechanic-special-2003-and/7420942739.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
G Wagons are so tall a 3 yr. old girl can tip them over On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 11:41 AM Curt Raymond wrote: > I dislike most MBs since the 124. I might consider an SL but other than > that they're all gross. The current GLS looks like a Volvo... > > I'd take a G wagen if somebody wanted to give me one... > > -Curt > > On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 10:55:12 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via > Mercedes wrote: > > > IMO the styling of Mercedes sedans since 1986 has lacked any aesthetic > appeal. > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:27 AM mitch--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > On 2021-12-15 08:20, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > > I like this, it makes it easy to tell. My knowledge of the various > > > sedan chassis’ numbers from 2000-2008 or so is sketchy at best. Never > > > could sort out the differences between the W211/220/221. > > > > The W203 are kinda eggy, but I think they're easy to tell from w220, > > just like the reclined W211 are easy to tell from the more vertical > > W210. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
I dislike most MBs since the 124. I might consider an SL but other than that they're all gross. The current GLS looks like a Volvo... I'd take a G wagen if somebody wanted to give me one... -Curt On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 10:55:12 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: IMO the styling of Mercedes sedans since 1986 has lacked any aesthetic appeal. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:27 AM mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > On 2021-12-15 08:20, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > I like this, it makes it easy to tell. My knowledge of the various > > sedan chassis’ numbers from 2000-2008 or so is sketchy at best. Never > > could sort out the differences between the W211/220/221. > > The W203 are kinda eggy, but I think they're easy to tell from w220, > just like the reclined W211 are easy to tell from the more vertical > W210. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
The vehicle I drive has to compensate for this. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 11:01 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You probably have no aesthetic appeal either so there’s that to consider > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > > > On Dec 15, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > That is a just a sign that you are old. > > > > > > > >> On 15/12/2021 9:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> IMO the styling of Mercedes sedans since 1986 has lacked any aesthetic > >> appeal. > >> > >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:27 AM mitch--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On 2021-12-15 08:20, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > I like this, it makes it easy to tell. My knowledge of the various > sedan chassis’ numbers from 2000-2008 or so is sketchy at best. Never > could sort out the differences between the W211/220/221. > >>> The W203 are kinda eggy, but I think they're easy to tell from w220, > >>> just like the reclined W211 are easy to tell from the more vertical > >>> W210. > >>> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TOOLS -- Cheap endoscope stocking stuffers
Handy for what? On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 11:01 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Ah. I should look at those. iPad would make a better screen > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > > > On Dec 15, 2021, at 10:45 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I got a couple of these off the Bay of Es a year or so ago that work > with iOS devices. I’ve got an old iPad I use with mine. Very handy. > > > > -D > > > >> On Dec 15, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Direct from the CCP! Perform your own colonoscopies without the hassle > of going to the doc! Or look into those hidden car nooks and crannies! > >> > >> Won't work on ifōn but will work on USB and androids of various > flavors, useful tool for <$10. I bought a nice subscription phone off > Amazon for like $35 that I just use for vids and wifi stuff, don't have any > phone service for it, would work fine with this thing. I think I am going > to order one, hard to go wrong for <$10 > >> > >> > https://www.dx.com/p/threeinone-usb-industrial-endoscope-7mm-13-million-highdefinition-airconditioning-pipe-mobile-phone-endoscope-2747580.html > >> > >> Here's one with a 5m cable for $14 but only has TypeC connector > >> > >> > https://www.dx.com/p/blcr-7mm-6-led-usb-type-c-android-pc-endoscope-with-hardwire-1m-2001488/474062.html > >> > >> Or a wifi version for $12.50 that you could use with any device like an > ipad or ifōn > >> > >> > https://www.dx.com/p/8mm-telefocus-threeinone-highdefinition-endoscope-industrial-pipe-endoscope-wifi-version-mobile-phone-universal-endoscope-2747581.html > >> > >> -- > >> --FT > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TOOLS -- Cheap endoscope stocking stuffers
Ah. I should look at those. iPad would make a better screen --FT Sent from iFōn > On Dec 15, 2021, at 10:45 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > I got a couple of these off the Bay of Es a year or so ago that work with > iOS devices. I’ve got an old iPad I use with mine. Very handy. > > -D > >> On Dec 15, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Direct from the CCP! Perform your own colonoscopies without the hassle of >> going to the doc! Or look into those hidden car nooks and crannies! >> >> Won't work on ifōn but will work on USB and androids of various flavors, >> useful tool for <$10. I bought a nice subscription phone off Amazon for >> like $35 that I just use for vids and wifi stuff, don't have any phone >> service for it, would work fine with this thing. I think I am going to >> order one, hard to go wrong for <$10 >> >> https://www.dx.com/p/threeinone-usb-industrial-endoscope-7mm-13-million-highdefinition-airconditioning-pipe-mobile-phone-endoscope-2747580.html >> >> Here's one with a 5m cable for $14 but only has TypeC connector >> >> https://www.dx.com/p/blcr-7mm-6-led-usb-type-c-android-pc-endoscope-with-hardwire-1m-2001488/474062.html >> >> Or a wifi version for $12.50 that you could use with any device like an ipad >> or ifōn >> >> https://www.dx.com/p/8mm-telefocus-threeinone-highdefinition-endoscope-industrial-pipe-endoscope-wifi-version-mobile-phone-universal-endoscope-2747581.html >> >> -- >> --FT >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
You probably have no aesthetic appeal either so there’s that to consider --FT Sent from iFōn > On Dec 15, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > > That is a just a sign that you are old. > > > >> On 15/12/2021 9:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> IMO the styling of Mercedes sedans since 1986 has lacked any aesthetic >> appeal. >> >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:27 AM mitch--- via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >>> On 2021-12-15 08:20, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I like this, it makes it easy to tell. My knowledge of the various sedan chassis’ numbers from 2000-2008 or so is sketchy at best. Never could sort out the differences between the W211/220/221. >>> The W203 are kinda eggy, but I think they're easy to tell from w220, >>> just like the reclined W211 are easy to tell from the more vertical >>> W210. >>> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
That is a just a sign that you are old. On 15/12/2021 9:54 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: IMO the styling of Mercedes sedans since 1986 has lacked any aesthetic appeal. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:27 AM mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: On 2021-12-15 08:20, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I like this, it makes it easy to tell. My knowledge of the various sedan chassis’ numbers from 2000-2008 or so is sketchy at best. Never could sort out the differences between the W211/220/221. The W203 are kinda eggy, but I think they're easy to tell from w220, just like the reclined W211 are easy to tell from the more vertical W210. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 300sd - $5,250 (Charlotte)
What are the cars in the background? One looks to be an Impala and the other appears to maybe be some old race car. 3rd is covered so cannot really see much of it. Randy On 15/12/2021 9:08 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Not bad for the mileage. I wonder how well the repaint was done? Interior needs freshening, which would be expected just from age. -D On Dec 15, 2021, at 9:25 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Crackish price ICE COLD AC https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-mercedes-300sd/7420792272.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
IMO the styling of Mercedes sedans since 1986 has lacked any aesthetic appeal. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:27 AM mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > On 2021-12-15 08:20, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > I like this, it makes it easy to tell. My knowledge of the various > > sedan chassis’ numbers from 2000-2008 or so is sketchy at best. Never > > could sort out the differences between the W211/220/221. > > The W203 are kinda eggy, but I think they're easy to tell from w220, > just like the reclined W211 are easy to tell from the more vertical > W210. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] TOOLS -- Cheap endoscope stocking stuffers
I got a couple of these off the Bay of Es a year or so ago that work with iOS devices. I’ve got an old iPad I use with mine. Very handy. -D > On Dec 15, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Direct from the CCP! Perform your own colonoscopies without the hassle of > going to the doc! Or look into those hidden car nooks and crannies! > > Won't work on ifōn but will work on USB and androids of various flavors, > useful tool for <$10. I bought a nice subscription phone off Amazon for like > $35 that I just use for vids and wifi stuff, don't have any phone service for > it, would work fine with this thing. I think I am going to order one, hard > to go wrong for <$10 > > https://www.dx.com/p/threeinone-usb-industrial-endoscope-7mm-13-million-highdefinition-airconditioning-pipe-mobile-phone-endoscope-2747580.html > > Here's one with a 5m cable for $14 but only has TypeC connector > > https://www.dx.com/p/blcr-7mm-6-led-usb-type-c-android-pc-endoscope-with-hardwire-1m-2001488/474062.html > > Or a wifi version for $12.50 that you could use with any device like an ipad > or ifōn > > https://www.dx.com/p/8mm-telefocus-threeinone-highdefinition-endoscope-industrial-pipe-endoscope-wifi-version-mobile-phone-universal-endoscope-2747581.html > > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] TOOLS -- Cheap endoscope stocking stuffers
Direct from the CCP! Perform your own colonoscopies without the hassle of going to the doc! Or look into those hidden car nooks and crannies! Won't work on ifōn but will work on USB and androids of various flavors, useful tool for <$10. I bought a nice subscription phone off Amazon for like $35 that I just use for vids and wifi stuff, don't have any phone service for it, would work fine with this thing. I think I am going to order one, hard to go wrong for <$10 https://www.dx.com/p/threeinone-usb-industrial-endoscope-7mm-13-million-highdefinition-airconditioning-pipe-mobile-phone-endoscope-2747580.html Here's one with a 5m cable for $14 but only has TypeC connector https://www.dx.com/p/blcr-7mm-6-led-usb-type-c-android-pc-endoscope-with-hardwire-1m-2001488/474062.html Or a wifi version for $12.50 that you could use with any device like an ipad or ifōn https://www.dx.com/p/8mm-telefocus-threeinone-highdefinition-endoscope-industrial-pipe-endoscope-wifi-version-mobile-phone-universal-endoscope-2747581.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 300sd - $5,250 (Charlotte)
Not bad for the mileage. I wonder how well the repaint was done? Interior needs freshening, which would be expected just from age. -D > On Dec 15, 2021, at 9:25 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Crackish price > > > ICE COLD AC > > https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-mercedes-300sd/7420792272.html > > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I got rid of the ABC suspension and installed coil overs.
No joyriders. Bring your money with you. --FT On 12/15/21 9:44 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: https://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/d/monroe-2005-mercedes-sl500/7420587789.html http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_DatacardAction.php?lang=E=WDBSK75FX5F106368 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PRICE IS FIRM AT $4500 2006 MERCEDES RL - $3, 995 (Rock hill)
Good questions. I might think if it made it this far it might be OK. It might be outside the range if it's a later 06, would need to check the VIN. In case of bad engine range it can be inspected to see if it is worn. First thing would be to get the VIN. Not a bad looking vehicle for the less firm price maybe, but it did not have the tow package so utility would be limited. --FT On 12/15/21 9:38 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: Is 200k a timing failure waiting to happen, or already repaired, or "it's lasted this long, why should it die now"? On 2021-12-15 09:30, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: The elusive RL350. Looks nice but 350 engine at 200kmi, maybe it will survive https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/d/rock-hill-2006-mercedes-rl/7420449063.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I got rid of the ABC suspension and installed coil overs.
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Re: [MBZ] PRICE IS FIRM AT $4500 2006 MERCEDES RL - $3, 995 (Rock hill)
Is 200k a timing failure waiting to happen, or already repaired, or "it's lasted this long, why should it die now"? On 2021-12-15 09:30, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: The elusive RL350. Looks nice but 350 engine at 200kmi, maybe it will survive https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/d/rock-hill-2006-mercedes-rl/7420449063.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mechanic Special: 2003 and 2002 Benzrty - $1,500 ea
Offer $1200 for the E320, throw on a cheepcheep pump and drive it or flip it for $3k Have him throw in the C in the deal to get it out of his life, see if it might be possible to get a new key --FT On 12/14/21 11:28 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Oops... here's the link https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-mechanic-special-2003-and/7420942739.html On Tue, Dec 14, 2021, at 11:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: C320 without a key. E320 with bad water pump. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] PRICE IS FIRM AT $4500 2006 MERCEDES RL - $3, 995 (Rock hill)
The elusive RL350. Looks nice but 350 engine at 200kmi, maybe it will survive https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/d/rock-hill-2006-mercedes-rl/7420449063.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mercedes 300sd - $5,250 (Charlotte)
Crackish price ICE COLD AC https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-mercedes-300sd/7420792272.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
On 2021-12-15 08:20, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I like this, it makes it easy to tell. My knowledge of the various sedan chassis’ numbers from 2000-2008 or so is sketchy at best. Never could sort out the differences between the W211/220/221. The W203 are kinda eggy, but I think they're easy to tell from w220, just like the reclined W211 are easy to tell from the more vertical W210. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
I like this, it makes it easy to tell. My knowledge of the various sedan chassis’ numbers from 2000-2008 or so is sketchy at best. Never could sort out the differences between the W211/220/221. Thanks! -D > On Dec 15, 2021, at 8:15 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > W221 had slanty eye headlights. > W220 and Porsche 996 had fried eggs. I don't believe any other Mercedes had > headlights like that. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looks Interesting
W221 had slanty eye headlights. W220 and Porsche 996 had fried eggs. I don't believe any other Mercedes had headlights like that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mechanic Special: 2003 and 2002 Benzrty - $1,500 ea
Does the M112 have a bad water pump, or a bad water leak, or a bad water leak in the water pump? What are the chances of a blown head gasket? On 2021-12-14 23:28, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Oops... here's the link https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-mechanic-special-2003-and/7420942739.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
