Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
My attempt at "doing the math:" solar radiation at noon on a clear day is, from what I can tell, about 1KW/m^2. How many square meters on a car roof? Maybe two or a little more? Photovoltaic cells are 20% efficient at best. So you have 400-450 Watts to work with at noon, less before and after. That will impart some charge to the battery, but even in an 8 hour workday it won't be enough to put back what you used driving to work. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 11:44 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > Still a niche car. Do the math. Panels may be OK to recharge while you are > at work on a sunny day but they can't keep up while driving. > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:53 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much? > > Tesla has finally come out or will soon with an EV with solar panels on the > roof so you can drive almost indefinitely, in theory. > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >> > I thought I saw something the other day that said new Pioi were PIHs >> > but maybe I misread. I don't know what MB's plans are in that regard. >> >> I thought MB announced plans for their passenger autos to be 100% BEV >> by >> 2025 or 2030? I'm not sure but maybe they are still planning some >> hybrid models. >> >> Several Euro countries are demanding this, as well as a few states in >> the US (California mandating zero-emission (a/k/a remote emission) >> cars by 2035). >> >> Allan >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
IMO, electric cars are neither good nor bad. But they are what they are. They may not be what you think they are, or what you imagine them to be. They do not reduce CO2 emissions per mile unless your power source is hydroelectric (or nuclear or geothermal). They don't reduce net energy consumption and a practical infrastructure doesn't exist (it's like in the old days when you had to buy gasoline at a drug store). "Refueling" time will be unacceptable or range limited (take your pick). Finally, the environmental impact of large-scale production is not well understood. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 11:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Dimitri Seretakis Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much? Electric cars are gay. Sorry to sound so ignorant and unsophisticated but I truly don’t care. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:22 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > And Mercedes wants to go all electric. > Good luck with that. > > https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
A niche car for the emasculated male. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:44 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > Still a niche car. Do the math. Panels may be OK to recharge while you are > at work on a sunny day but they can't keep up while driving. > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:53 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Andrew Strasfogel > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much? > > Tesla has finally come out or will soon with an EV with solar panels on the > roof so you can drive almost indefinitely, in theory. > >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >>> I thought I saw something the other day that said new Pioi were PIHs >>> but maybe I misread. I don't know what MB's plans are in that regard. >> >> I thought MB announced plans for their passenger autos to be 100% BEV >> by >> 2025 or 2030? I'm not sure but maybe they are still planning some >> hybrid models. >> >> Several Euro countries are demanding this, as well as a few states in >> the US (California mandating zero-emission (a/k/a remote emission) >> cars by 2035). >> >> Allan >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
Still a niche car. Do the math. Panels may be OK to recharge while you are at work on a sunny day but they can't keep up while driving. -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much? Tesla has finally come out or will soon with an EV with solar panels on the roof so you can drive almost indefinitely, in theory. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > > I thought I saw something the other day that said new Pioi were PIHs > > but maybe I misread. I don't know what MB's plans are in that regard. > > I thought MB announced plans for their passenger autos to be 100% BEV > by > 2025 or 2030? I'm not sure but maybe they are still planning some > hybrid models. > > Several Euro countries are demanding this, as well as a few states in > the US (California mandating zero-emission (a/k/a remote emission) > cars by 2035). > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4matic transfer case rebuild surprisingly easy
The only problem I have ever had with a Mercedes automatic was the B2 piston on my 300D. Admittedly my experience is limited to only a few different vehicles, none even close to 400K miles. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 11:01 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: > The problem with Mercedes automatics is that, unlike earlier domestic > ones, they usually have some incredible amount of mileage on them > before they require work. My 300D has gotten flaky, first time i’ve > had issues with a Benz auto, and it has at least 400K miles on it. > > That means that it’s not a matter of replacing seals and clutch packs — > typically the thrust washers on the planetary gears are worn out, > support bearings need to be replaced, and the check balls are all worn > out. I remember a number of 20 plus for those check balls, and most of > them are different sizes. And often the gear sets are getting badly > worn by then too. Domestic boxes hardly every get than much mileage. > > Cost my brother $1500 to have the one in the SDL redone when it started > slipping — rebuilt torque converter, new clutches, new thrust washers, > and a new pump. > > Not as easy as a Torqueflight or Ford C6. Some special measuring tools > needed for the planetary sets. > > >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:39 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I’ve done it, but again, it was on domestic boxes (PowerGlide, THMs, C4s, >> etc.) and some years ago, but in all honesty it’s not that difficult if >> you’ve got a clean place to work and some good quality snap ring pliers and >> compressed air. Heck, with the resources on the Interwebs these days it’s >> got to be a heck of a lot easier. And yes, there are a lot of third party >> places selling parts for them, although I would make sure I get stuff like >> seals from Mercedes or a reputable supplier. >> >> -D >> >>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I was thinking he might be a resource for your car. Auto transmissions >>> have always been kinda voodoo for me but watching his vids show they are >>> not particularly complicated, and parts seem to be readily available, mostly >>> >>> --FT >>> >>> On 1/25/22 5:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Yeah I like his videos. He has a couple on the Honda CRV/Element transmissions that gave me the idea that I might be able to rebuild mine. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > This guy has a transmission shop and has posted some good videos of > transmission repairs including 722.9s. This one is of the transfer case > that is part of the whole transmissions, it looked surprisingly easy to > do the repair on a worn front output shaft. The 722.9 vids show it is > not particularly complicated to repair the clutches and such, the > biggest problem would be getting it out and back in > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id99fyXX-Hk > > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> -- >>> --FT >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4matic transfer case rebuild surprisingly easy
The problem with Mercedes automatics is that, unlike earlier domestic ones, they usually have some incredible amount of mileage on them before they require work. My 300D has gotten flaky, first time i’ve had issues with a Benz auto, and it has at least 400K miles on it. That means that it’s not a matter of replacing seals and clutch packs — typically the thrust washers on the planetary gears are worn out, support bearings need to be replaced, and the check balls are all worn out. I remember a number of 20 plus for those check balls, and most of them are different sizes. And often the gear sets are getting badly worn by then too. Domestic boxes hardly every get than much mileage. Cost my brother $1500 to have the one in the SDL redone when it started slipping — rebuilt torque converter, new clutches, new thrust washers, and a new pump. Not as easy as a Torqueflight or Ford C6. Some special measuring tools needed for the planetary sets. > On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:39 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > I’ve done it, but again, it was on domestic boxes (PowerGlide, THMs, C4s, > etc.) and some years ago, but in all honesty it’s not that difficult if > you’ve got a clean place to work and some good quality snap ring pliers and > compressed air. Heck, with the resources on the Interwebs these days it’s got > to be a heck of a lot easier. And yes, there are a lot of third party places > selling parts for them, although I would make sure I get stuff like seals > from Mercedes or a reputable supplier. > > -D > >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I was thinking he might be a resource for your car. Auto transmissions have >> always been kinda voodoo for me but watching his vids show they are not >> particularly complicated, and parts seem to be readily available, mostly >> >> --FT >> >> On 1/25/22 5:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >>> Yeah I like his videos. He has a couple on the Honda CRV/Element >>> transmissions that gave me the idea that I might be able to rebuild mine. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: This guy has a transmission shop and has posted some good videos of transmission repairs including 722.9s. This one is of the transfer case that is part of the whole transmissions, it looked surprisingly easy to do the repair on a worn front output shaft. The 722.9 vids show it is not particularly complicated to repair the clutches and such, the biggest problem would be getting it out and back in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id99fyXX-Hk -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> -- >> --FT >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Extra 7 or extra 0 in the price?
So this guy bought it for $500 from the old man or his kids to clear out the house, threw a battery in it and got it running and now wants to make $7k on the deal. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 25, 2022, at 9:06 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/238351101800938/ > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Picked up the copart ML
You might have to remind me tomorrow Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Send me that info. I might want to do it on this 06ML500 that needs a tranny > rebuild > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 6:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I have the factory procedure and part info that is required. If you do not >> have the right rear Sam, you have to get one then a couple of wiring >> harnesses. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> you can't just slap on a hitch and expect to tow with it (well, you can, >>> but the nannies will go schizo), you need the towing nanny and to get it >>> integrated into the whole car system which is doable but takes some doing. >>> You'll have to find a junker to pull all the bits from then fool around >>> with getting it working. >>> >>> I got a hitch from eTrailer (I think) or maybe got one off Amazon or eBay >>> or something cheaper than their price. These work fine unless you can find >>> the MB version off a junker. There is some cutting of a heat shield and >>> something else I don't recall involved, eTrailer has an install vid on >>> their website and I think the hitch had instructions with it too. >>> >>> --FT >>> > On 1/25/22 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Strapped it down to the trailer in 18 degree Nebraska temps. No telling how long it was sitting but battery had just enough charge to turn it over and it started. Runs fine. Beyond that don’t know anything yet. I do know it’s missing the right read door panel for some reason. Will need that and of course a factory hitch. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> -- >>> --FT >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Extra 7 or extra 0 in the price?
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/238351101800938/ Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Picked up the copart ML
Send me that info. I might want to do it on this 06ML500 that needs a tranny rebuild --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 25, 2022, at 6:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have the factory procedure and part info that is required. If you do not > have the right rear Sam, you have to get one then a couple of wiring > harnesses. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> you can't just slap on a hitch and expect to tow with it (well, you can, >> but the nannies will go schizo), you need the towing nanny and to get it >> integrated into the whole car system which is doable but takes some doing. >> You'll have to find a junker to pull all the bits from then fool around with >> getting it working. >> >> I got a hitch from eTrailer (I think) or maybe got one off Amazon or eBay or >> something cheaper than their price. These work fine unless you can find the >> MB version off a junker. There is some cutting of a heat shield and >> something else I don't recall involved, eTrailer has an install vid on their >> website and I think the hitch had instructions with it too. >> >> --FT >> On 1/25/22 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> Strapped it down to the trailer in 18 degree Nebraska temps. No telling how >>> long it was sitting but battery had just enough charge to turn it over and >>> it started. Runs fine. Beyond that don’t know anything yet. I do know it’s >>> missing the right read door panel for some reason. Will need that and of >>> course a factory hitch. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> -- >> --FT >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
On 2022-01-25 20:52, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Tesla has finally come out or will soon with an EV with solar panels on the roof so you can drive almost indefinitely, in theory. If you've got room up there for 500W of panels, you could go 5 mph or maybe even more in full sunlight. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
Tesla has finally come out or will soon with an EV with solar panels on the roof so you can drive almost indefinitely, in theory. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > > I thought I saw something the other day that said new Pioi were PIHs but > > maybe I misread. I don't know what MB's plans are in that regard. > > I thought MB announced plans for their passenger autos to be 100% BEV by > 2025 or 2030? I'm not sure but maybe they are still planning some hybrid > models. > > Several Euro countries are demanding this, as well as a few states in the > US (California mandating zero-emission (a/k/a remote emission) cars by > 2035). > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Amusing Tucker Sno-Cat Iconography
I thought this might interest you guys: https://photos.app.goo.gl/MweUZ2nfJANuseU7A The picture is from our '92 Tucker Sno-Cat. The '89 I run has one too but the icon is worn and hard to see on camera. Any guesses as to what this switch does? I mean the one in the center, to the left of the yellow switch which turns on the beacon. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Picked up the copart ML
I have the factory procedure and part info that is required. If you do not have the right rear Sam, you have to get one then a couple of wiring harnesses. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > you can't just slap on a hitch and expect to tow with it (well, you can, but > the nannies will go schizo), you need the towing nanny and to get it > integrated into the whole car system which is doable but takes some doing. > You'll have to find a junker to pull all the bits from then fool around with > getting it working. > > I got a hitch from eTrailer (I think) or maybe got one off Amazon or eBay or > something cheaper than their price. These work fine unless you can find the > MB version off a junker. There is some cutting of a heat shield and > something else I don't recall involved, eTrailer has an install vid on their > website and I think the hitch had instructions with it too. > > --FT > >> On 1/25/22 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> Strapped it down to the trailer in 18 degree Nebraska temps. No telling how >> long it was sitting but battery had just enough charge to turn it over and >> it started. Runs fine. Beyond that don’t know anything yet. I do know it’s >> missing the right read door panel for some reason. Will need that and of >> course a factory hitch. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Picked up the copart ML
you can't just slap on a hitch and expect to tow with it (well, you can, but the nannies will go schizo), you need the towing nanny and to get it integrated into the whole car system which is doable but takes some doing. You'll have to find a junker to pull all the bits from then fool around with getting it working. I got a hitch from eTrailer (I think) or maybe got one off Amazon or eBay or something cheaper than their price. These work fine unless you can find the MB version off a junker. There is some cutting of a heat shield and something else I don't recall involved, eTrailer has an install vid on their website and I think the hitch had instructions with it too. --FT On 1/25/22 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Strapped it down to the trailer in 18 degree Nebraska temps. No telling how long it was sitting but battery had just enough charge to turn it over and it started. Runs fine. Beyond that don’t know anything yet. I do know it’s missing the right read door panel for some reason. Will need that and of course a factory hitch. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4matic transfer case rebuild surprisingly easy
I’ve done it, but again, it was on domestic boxes (PowerGlide, THMs, C4s, etc.) and some years ago, but in all honesty it’s not that difficult if you’ve got a clean place to work and some good quality snap ring pliers and compressed air. Heck, with the resources on the Interwebs these days it’s got to be a heck of a lot easier. And yes, there are a lot of third party places selling parts for them, although I would make sure I get stuff like seals from Mercedes or a reputable supplier. -D > On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > I was thinking he might be a resource for your car. Auto transmissions have > always been kinda voodoo for me but watching his vids show they are not > particularly complicated, and parts seem to be readily available, mostly > > --FT > > On 1/25/22 5:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> Yeah I like his videos. He has a couple on the Honda CRV/Element >> transmissions that gave me the idea that I might be able to rebuild mine. >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >>> This guy has a transmission shop and has posted some good videos of >>> transmission repairs including 722.9s. This one is of the transfer case >>> that is part of the whole transmissions, it looked surprisingly easy to >>> do the repair on a worn front output shaft. The 722.9 vids show it is >>> not particularly complicated to repair the clutches and such, the >>> biggest problem would be getting it out and back in >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id99fyXX-Hk >>> >>> -- >>> --FT >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Picked up the copart ML
Strapped it down to the trailer in 18 degree Nebraska temps. No telling how long it was sitting but battery had just enough charge to turn it over and it started. Runs fine. Beyond that don’t know anything yet. I do know it’s missing the right read door panel for some reason. Will need that and of course a factory hitch. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4matic transfer case rebuild surprisingly easy
I was thinking he might be a resource for your car. Auto transmissions have always been kinda voodoo for me but watching his vids show they are not particularly complicated, and parts seem to be readily available, mostly --FT On 1/25/22 5:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Yeah I like his videos. He has a couple on the Honda CRV/Element transmissions that gave me the idea that I might be able to rebuild mine. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: This guy has a transmission shop and has posted some good videos of transmission repairs including 722.9s. This one is of the transfer case that is part of the whole transmissions, it looked surprisingly easy to do the repair on a worn front output shaft. The 722.9 vids show it is not particularly complicated to repair the clutches and such, the biggest problem would be getting it out and back in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id99fyXX-Hk -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4matic transfer case rebuild surprisingly easy
Yeah I like his videos. He has a couple on the Honda CRV/Element transmissions that gave me the idea that I might be able to rebuild mine. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > This guy has a transmission shop and has posted some good videos of > transmission repairs including 722.9s. This one is of the transfer case > that is part of the whole transmissions, it looked surprisingly easy to > do the repair on a worn front output shaft. The 722.9 vids show it is > not particularly complicated to repair the clutches and such, the > biggest problem would be getting it out and back in > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id99fyXX-Hk > > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 722.9 4matic transfer case rebuild surprisingly easy
This guy has a transmission shop and has posted some good videos of transmission repairs including 722.9s. This one is of the transfer case that is part of the whole transmissions, it looked surprisingly easy to do the repair on a worn front output shaft. The 722.9 vids show it is not particularly complicated to repair the clutches and such, the biggest problem would be getting it out and back in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id99fyXX-Hk -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Experience with HF code readers?
I think hf have a return within X days policy, you could try it and if it doesn't work take it back. And if it works, use it then return it? You might also check with your FLAPS, they often have readers you can borrow. --FT On 1/25/22 5:02 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Correction ... "inexpensive"... LOL. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Anyone have experience with OBD2 code readers from Harbor Fright? Looking at this one. ZR8s OBD2 Code Reader with Live Data https://www.harborfreight.com/zr8s-obd2-code-reader-with-live-data-57667.html I'm looking for an expensive way to get "live" readings, specifically transmission temperature, from my Volvo XC90. Getting the correct fluid fill level on that car requires warming the transmission to a specific temperature range. Is transmisison temperature a "standard" OBD2 capability that any reader should be able to display? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Experience with HF code readers?
Correction ... "inexpensive"... LOL. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > Anyone have experience with OBD2 code readers from Harbor Fright? > > Looking at this one. > > ZR8s OBD2 Code Reader with Live Data > > https://www.harborfreight.com/zr8s-obd2-code-reader-with-live-data-57667.html > > I'm looking for an expensive way to get "live" readings, specifically > transmission temperature, from my Volvo XC90. Getting the correct fluid > fill level on that car requires warming the transmission to a specific > temperature range. > > Is transmisison temperature a "standard" OBD2 capability that any > reader should be able to display? > > Allan > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of shooting brakes
On 2022-01-25 15:59, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: https://www.instagram.com/p/CZJqk4DFe0a/ Ah, yes. The famous Daytona wagon. First time I've seen a pic from above with the gull wings open. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Experience with HF code readers?
Anyone have experience with OBD2 code readers from Harbor Fright? Looking at this one. ZR8s OBD2 Code Reader with Live Data https://www.harborfreight.com/zr8s-obd2-code-reader-with-live-data-57667.html I'm looking for an expensive way to get "live" readings, specifically transmission temperature, from my Volvo XC90. Getting the correct fluid fill level on that car requires warming the transmission to a specific temperature range. Is transmisison temperature a "standard" OBD2 capability that any reader should be able to display? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2002 S55 AMG - 101k miles - $9,900
And wonder why it's for sale with "100 miles on NEW SUSPENSION" perhaps owner doesn't like it? Or old air suspension had problems and this was the cheapest way to get it into salable condition? On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > Knocks a goodly amount off the asking price > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 4:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> "Converted to shock & strut set-up" ... that's too bad. Nice looking >> black/black car. >> >> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/elgin-2002-mercedes-benz-s55-amg-class/7437529786.html >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2002 S55 AMG - 101k miles - $9,900
Knocks a goodly amount off the asking price --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 25, 2022, at 4:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > "Converted to shock & strut set-up" ... that's too bad. Nice looking > black/black car. > > https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/elgin-2002-mercedes-benz-s55-amg-class/7437529786.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2002 S55 AMG - 101k miles - $9,900
"Converted to shock & strut set-up" ... that's too bad. Nice looking black/black car. https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/elgin-2002-mercedes-benz-s55-amg-class/7437529786.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Speaking of shooting brakes
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZJqk4DFe0a/ --FT Sent from iFōn ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Twennyfos and Three 12s 2002 Mercedes Benz S500 on 24’s - $6,500 (Savannah)
Suspension upgrade https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/savannah-2002-mercedes-benz-s500-on-24s/7437541965.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
So how do you like your EV? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > > I'm with you, Dimitri, and I will go one step further. I am on the lookout > for a car with square Wheels that predates the Stone Age. You really get > tremendous Road feel in one of those. > >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 12:54 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> The masses are asses. They can go drive their fake green gay electric cars. >> I’ll stick to IC! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Jan 25, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> > >> > Unfortunately the insipid car experience is what the masses mostly want. >> > Most people aren't car people and see their vehicle as a way to get from >> > point a to point b. The car makers are just giving the masses what they >> > want mostly. >> > >> > -Curt >> > >> > On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:57:28 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis >> > wrote: >> > >> > I have not but some car enthusiast friends have they tell me that aside >> > from the fantastic acceleration, the experience is wholly insipid. One >> > friend told me that it’s tantamount to getting teleported from one >> > location to another. It’s for people who hate cars >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> >> >> Not exactly true, these are lithium batteries, a lot of the rules from >> >> lead acid don't apply. The biggest issue is temperature compensation >> >> while charging. This time of year the battery might actually have to be >> >> heated before it can be charged. IIRC LiPo batteries can't be charged >> >> below freezing. >> >> Usually the batteries have to be cooled while charging to allow big >> >> energy flow. >> >> >> >> >> >> Dimitri, have you actually driven an electric car? Putting aside all the >> >> green-washing and smugness they are fantastic to drive. Smooth, with all >> >> the power on tap immediately, quiet too. >> >> >> >> There is an indoor go kart place in Wilmington, we should go sometime, >> >> they're super fun and not unlike an electric car. >> >> >> >> -Curt >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:21:59 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via >> >> Mercedes wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quick charging decreases battery life but when you’re in a bind it >> >> shouldn’t matter. Part of the problem is that the demographic that buys >> >> these cars lacks in common sense and street smarts. They are delusional >> >> utopian morons. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what she >> >>> was driving and didn't plan accordingly. >> >>> >> >>> The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla >> >>> charges to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't >> >>> know why she was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe >> >>> there aren't electric car chargers all over that area... >> >>> >> >>> -Curt >> >>> >> >>> >> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via >> Mercedes wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Heidi needs a timeout. >> >>> >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> And Mercedes wants to go all electric. >> Good luck with that. >> >> >> https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ >> >> >> Rick >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >> >> >>> ___ >> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>> >> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ___ >> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>> >> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search lis
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > I thought I saw something the other day that said new Pioi were PIHs but > maybe I misread. I don't know what MB's plans are in that regard. I thought MB announced plans for their passenger autos to be 100% BEV by 2025 or 2030? I'm not sure but maybe they are still planning some hybrid models. Several Euro countries are demanding this, as well as a few states in the US (California mandating zero-emission (a/k/a remote emission) cars by 2035). Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
That woman appears to be a fnidiot but not unexpectedly so, Kollyfawnya is full of them. I see a lot of Teslas around here, they are quite stylish rides for the sedans (those SUV things are fugly) but I'm guessing for most people who own them they are 1) transportation appliances and 2) appeal to some sort of feeelings about goodness and light and all that. I doubt if the Kiawhites I see driving them will be using them for hurricane evacuations, and that has made me think about all that saltwater storm surge letting loose all those electrons in a flash if they abandon them. Lots of kindling for their big houses (which, BTW, the fire department basically will watch burn as with hardi-plank siding, metal roofs, and hurricane-proof windows, they are basically impossible to breech to get at an interior fire). I have seen one with a license plate surround that says ZERO EMISSIONS VEHICLE and I want to smack the guy driving it, but I doubt if that would knock any sense into his head. Maybe he has a solar panel on his roof to charge it, that would be OK I guess but I don't think the luxury gated resort lifestyle beach golf/tennis community allows them. So there's that. I don't have anything personally against an electric car, not my cuppa but I'm sure they appeal to quite a few and that is their choice. I think a plug-in hybrid is a much better option as you get the convenience of petrol (diesel might be better?) for long trips, and still quite decent fuel economy and performance if you want it. I thought I saw something the other day that said new Pioi were PIHs but maybe I misread. I don't know what MB's plans are in that regard. --FT On 1/25/22 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Unfortunately the insipid car experience is what the masses mostly want. Most people aren't car people and see their vehicle as a way to get from point a to point b. The car makers are just giving the masses what they want mostly. -Curt -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Everyone Needs a Shooting Brake in Their Life
That's pretty cool, would be a fun car if you had $5k to spend on a toy. I watched Harry's drive in the Lotus Elan Sprint the other night, it is surprising how much room there is in this tiny car. he is 6'2" and says he fits very well with the seat on the forward notch, if you are taller it can go back a notch to accommodate a taller driver. And the car weighs nothing and is quite fast. He had another one he did performance improvements on for the track, that thing looked fast as hell but it rode very hard. A friend had one back years ago he had pretty much dismantled and was restoring to race, I should find out what he ever did with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeYvA-bXH_w --FT On 1/25/22 11:32 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Heh. Love the dash switch “Rear Wipe”. -Bevis/Butthead On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: Random. Very cool. AZBob https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/d/san-diego-1975-lotus-elite/7437048694.html Bob Rentfro Nuclear Operations Training Instructor 5801 South Wintersburg Road, Tonopah, AZ 85354-7529, M.S. 7896 Office 623.393.6372 Cell 623-695-2072 --- NOTICE --- This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain confidential, privileged or proprietary information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original and any copy or printout. Unintended recipients are prohibited from making any other use of this e-mail. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, we accept no liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments, or for any delay or errors or omissions in the contents which result from e-mail transmission. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2012 Mercedes S600, Excellent car, All the bells and whistles - $28, 000 (JACKSONVILLE)
This would be fun https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/jacksonville-2012-mercedes-s600/7437519802.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
I'm with you, Dimitri, and I will go one step further. I am on the lookout for a car with square Wheels that predates the Stone Age. You really get tremendous Road feel in one of those. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 12:54 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The masses are asses. They can go drive their fake green gay electric > cars. I’ll stick to IC! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 25, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > > > Unfortunately the insipid car experience is what the masses mostly > want. Most people aren't car people and see their vehicle as a way to get > from point a to point b. The car makers are just giving the masses what > they want mostly. > > > > -Curt > > > > On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:57:28 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis < > dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > I have not but some car enthusiast friends have they tell me that aside > from the fantastic acceleration, the experience is wholly insipid. One > friend told me that it’s tantamount to getting teleported from one location > to another. It’s for people who hate cars > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Curt Raymond > wrote: > >> > >> Not exactly true, these are lithium batteries, a lot of the rules from > lead acid don't apply. The biggest issue is temperature compensation while > charging. This time of year the battery might actually have to be heated > before it can be charged. IIRC LiPo batteries can't be charged below > freezing. > >> Usually the batteries have to be cooled while charging to allow big > energy flow. > >> > >> > >> Dimitri, have you actually driven an electric car? Putting aside all > the green-washing and smugness they are fantastic to drive. Smooth, with > all the power on tap immediately, quiet too. > >> > >> There is an indoor go kart place in Wilmington, we should go sometime, > they're super fun and not unlike an electric car. > >> > >> -Curt > >> > >> > >> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:21:59 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via > Mercedes wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quick charging decreases battery life but when you’re in a bind it > shouldn’t matter. Part of the problem is that the demographic that buys > these cars lacks in common sense and street smarts. They are delusional > utopian morons. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what > she was driving and didn't plan accordingly. > >>> > >>> The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla > charges to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't know > why she was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe there > aren't electric car chargers all over that area... > >>> > >>> -Curt > >>> > >>> > On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via > Mercedes wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Heidi needs a timeout. > >>> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > And Mercedes wants to go all electric. > Good luck with that. > > > > https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > > > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okieben
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
The masses are asses. They can go drive their fake green gay electric cars. I’ll stick to IC! Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Unfortunately the insipid car experience is what the masses mostly want. > Most people aren't car people and see their vehicle as a way to get from > point a to point b. The car makers are just giving the masses what they want > mostly. > > -Curt > > On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:57:28 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis > wrote: > > I have not but some car enthusiast friends have they tell me that aside from > the fantastic acceleration, the experience is wholly insipid. One friend told > me that it’s tantamount to getting teleported from one location to another. > It’s for people who hate cars > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> Not exactly true, these are lithium batteries, a lot of the rules from lead >> acid don't apply. The biggest issue is temperature compensation while >> charging. This time of year the battery might actually have to be heated >> before it can be charged. IIRC LiPo batteries can't be charged below >> freezing. >> Usually the batteries have to be cooled while charging to allow big energy >> flow. >> >> >> Dimitri, have you actually driven an electric car? Putting aside all the >> green-washing and smugness they are fantastic to drive. Smooth, with all the >> power on tap immediately, quiet too. >> >> There is an indoor go kart place in Wilmington, we should go sometime, >> they're super fun and not unlike an electric car. >> >> -Curt >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:21:59 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via >> Mercedes wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Quick charging decreases battery life but when you’re in a bind it shouldn’t >> matter. Part of the problem is that the demographic that buys these cars >> lacks in common sense and street smarts. They are delusional utopian morons. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what she >>> was driving and didn't plan accordingly. >>> >>> The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla charges >>> to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't know why she >>> was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe there aren't >>> electric car chargers all over that area... >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Heidi needs a timeout. >>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: And Mercedes wants to go all electric. Good luck with that. https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
Unfortunately the insipid car experience is what the masses mostly want. Most people aren't car people and see their vehicle as a way to get from point a to point b. The car makers are just giving the masses what they want mostly. -Curt On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:57:28 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I have not but some car enthusiast friends have they tell me that aside from the fantastic acceleration, the experience is wholly insipid. One friend told me that it’s tantamount to getting teleported from one location to another. It’s for people who hate cars Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Not exactly true, these are lithium batteries, a lot of the rules from lead > acid don't apply. The biggest issue is temperature compensation while > charging. This time of year the battery might actually have to be heated > before it can be charged. IIRC LiPo batteries can't be charged below freezing. > Usually the batteries have to be cooled while charging to allow big energy > flow. > > > Dimitri, have you actually driven an electric car? Putting aside all the > green-washing and smugness they are fantastic to drive. Smooth, with all the > power on tap immediately, quiet too. > > There is an indoor go kart place in Wilmington, we should go sometime, > they're super fun and not unlike an electric car. > > -Curt > > > On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:21:59 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > Quick charging decreases battery life but when you’re in a bind it shouldn’t > matter. Part of the problem is that the demographic that buys these cars > lacks in common sense and street smarts. They are delusional utopian morons. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what she was >> driving and didn't plan accordingly. >> >> The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla charges >> to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't know why she >> was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe there aren't >> electric car chargers all over that area... >> >> -Curt >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via >> Mercedes wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Heidi needs a timeout. >> >>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> And Mercedes wants to go all electric. >>> Good luck with that. >>> >>> >>> https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
I agree. The mechanical nature of a car is part of the joy of driving it. Fuel burning, gears turning, the noise, the vibrations, it's all part of the experience. EVs are just big golf carts. Leno has a few steam cars. A steam engine produces torque from standstill like an electric engine. I think driving one of those might be fun, though clearly not very practical for most people. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 11:57 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: > I have not but some car enthusiast friends have they tell me that aside > from the fantastic acceleration, the experience is wholly insipid. One > friend told me that it’s tantamount to getting teleported from one > location to another. It’s for people who hate cars > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: >> >> Not exactly true, these are lithium batteries, a lot of the rules from lead >> acid don't apply. The biggest issue is temperature compensation while >> charging. This time of year the battery might actually have to be heated >> before it can be charged. IIRC LiPo batteries can't be charged below >> freezing. >> Usually the batteries have to be cooled while charging to allow big energy >> flow. >> >> >> Dimitri, have you actually driven an electric car? Putting aside all the >> green-washing and smugness they are fantastic to drive. Smooth, with all the >> power on tap immediately, quiet too. >> >> There is an indoor go kart place in Wilmington, we should go sometime, >> they're super fun and not unlike an electric car. >> >> -Curt >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:21:59 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via >> Mercedes wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Quick charging decreases battery life but when you’re in a bind it shouldn’t >> matter. Part of the problem is that the demographic that buys these cars >> lacks in common sense and street smarts. They are delusional utopian morons. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what she >>> was driving and didn't plan accordingly. >>> >>> The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla charges >>> to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't know why she >>> was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe there aren't >>> electric car chargers all over that area... >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via >>> Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Heidi needs a timeout. >>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: And Mercedes wants to go all electric. Good luck with that. https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
My computer guy agrees with you totally. He was given the opportunity to drive a Tesla by a client who owns one. He said it had great acceleration but was boring to drive. He is a "car guy" who has a hopped up 68 Mustang fastback but his daily driver is an Escape Hybrid. Randy On 25/01/2022 10:57 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: I have not but some car enthusiast friends have they tell me that aside from the fantastic acceleration, the experience is wholly insipid. One friend told me that it’s tantamount to getting teleported from one location to another. It’s for people who hate cars Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Not exactly true, these are lithium batteries, a lot of the rules from lead acid don't apply. The biggest issue is temperature compensation while charging. This time of year the battery might actually have to be heated before it can be charged. IIRC LiPo batteries can't be charged below freezing. Usually the batteries have to be cooled while charging to allow big energy flow. Dimitri, have you actually driven an electric car? Putting aside all the green-washing and smugness they are fantastic to drive. Smooth, with all the power on tap immediately, quiet too. There is an indoor go kart place in Wilmington, we should go sometime, they're super fun and not unlike an electric car. -Curt On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:21:59 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: Quick charging decreases battery life but when you’re in a bind it shouldn’t matter. Part of the problem is that the demographic that buys these cars lacks in common sense and street smarts. They are delusional utopian morons. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what she was driving and didn't plan accordingly. The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla charges to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't know why she was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe there aren't electric car chargers all over that area... -Curt On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Heidi needs a timeout. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: And Mercedes wants to go all electric. Good luck with that. https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
I have not but some car enthusiast friends have they tell me that aside from the fantastic acceleration, the experience is wholly insipid. One friend told me that it’s tantamount to getting teleported from one location to another. It’s for people who hate cars Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Not exactly true, these are lithium batteries, a lot of the rules from lead > acid don't apply. The biggest issue is temperature compensation while > charging. This time of year the battery might actually have to be heated > before it can be charged. IIRC LiPo batteries can't be charged below freezing. > Usually the batteries have to be cooled while charging to allow big energy > flow. > > > Dimitri, have you actually driven an electric car? Putting aside all the > green-washing and smugness they are fantastic to drive. Smooth, with all the > power on tap immediately, quiet too. > > There is an indoor go kart place in Wilmington, we should go sometime, > they're super fun and not unlike an electric car. > > -Curt > > > On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:21:59 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > Quick charging decreases battery life but when you’re in a bind it shouldn’t > matter. Part of the problem is that the demographic that buys these cars > lacks in common sense and street smarts. They are delusional utopian morons. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what she was >> driving and didn't plan accordingly. >> >> The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla charges >> to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't know why she >> was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe there aren't >> electric car chargers all over that area... >> >> -Curt >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via >> Mercedes wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Heidi needs a timeout. >> >>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> And Mercedes wants to go all electric. >>> Good luck with that. >>> >>> >>> https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
Not exactly true, these are lithium batteries, a lot of the rules from lead acid don't apply. The biggest issue is temperature compensation while charging. This time of year the battery might actually have to be heated before it can be charged. IIRC LiPo batteries can't be charged below freezing. Usually the batteries have to be cooled while charging to allow big energy flow. Dimitri, have you actually driven an electric car? Putting aside all the green-washing and smugness they are fantastic to drive. Smooth, with all the power on tap immediately, quiet too. There is an indoor go kart place in Wilmington, we should go sometime, they're super fun and not unlike an electric car. -Curt On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:21:59 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: Quick charging decreases battery life but when you’re in a bind it shouldn’t matter. Part of the problem is that the demographic that buys these cars lacks in common sense and street smarts. They are delusional utopian morons. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what she was > driving and didn't plan accordingly. > > The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla charges > to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't know why she > was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe there aren't electric > car chargers all over that area... > > -Curt > > > On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > Heidi needs a timeout. > >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> And Mercedes wants to go all electric. >> Good luck with that. >> >> >> https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ >> >> >> Rick >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Everyone Needs a Shooting Brake in Their Life
Heh. Love the dash switch “Rear Wipe”. -Bevis/Butthead > On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Random. Very cool. > >> AZBob >> >> https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/d/san-diego-1975-lotus-elite/7437048694.html >> >> >> Bob Rentfro >> Nuclear Operations Training Instructor >> 5801 South Wintersburg Road, Tonopah, AZ 85354-7529, M.S. 7896 >> Office 623.393.6372 Cell 623-695-2072 >> >> --- NOTICE --- >> >> This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain >> confidential, privileged or proprietary information. If you have received >> it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original >> and any copy or printout. Unintended recipients are prohibited from making >> any other use of this e-mail. Although we have taken reasonable precautions >> to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, we accept no liability for >> any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments, or >> for any delay or errors or omissions in the contents which result from >> e-mail transmission. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
Quick charging decreases battery life but when you’re in a bind it shouldn’t matter. Part of the problem is that the demographic that buys these cars lacks in common sense and street smarts. They are delusional utopian morons. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what she was > driving and didn't plan accordingly. > > The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla charges > to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't know why she > was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe there aren't electric > car chargers all over that area... > > -Curt > > > On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > Heidi needs a timeout. > >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> And Mercedes wants to go all electric. >> Good luck with that. >> >> >> https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ >> >> >> Rick >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
Electric cars are gay. Sorry to sound so ignorant and unsophisticated but I truly don’t care. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:22 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > And Mercedes wants to go all electric. > Good luck with that. > > https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Everyone Needs a Shooting Brake in Their Life
Random. Very cool. > AZBob > > https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/d/san-diego-1975-lotus-elite/7437048694.html > > > Bob Rentfro > Nuclear Operations Training Instructor > 5801 South Wintersburg Road, Tonopah, AZ 85354-7529, M.S. 7896 > Office 623.393.6372 Cell 623-695-2072 > > --- NOTICE --- > > This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain > confidential, privileged or proprietary information. If you have received it > in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original and > any copy or printout. Unintended recipients are prohibited from making any > other use of this e-mail. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to > ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, we accept no liability for any > loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments, or for any > delay or errors or omissions in the contents which result from e-mail > transmission. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And now for something completely different
My auntie had a coupé of that body style, it was a very pretty blue with blue interior. I actually really liked it before Ralphie trashed them, but now I like them again. --FT On 1/25/22 9:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Unsafe at any speed yet curiously compelling... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-chevrolet-corvair-monza-25/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I have a Black Mercedes Benz for Sale A Must See she Runs and Drives 2008 Mercedes Benz E55 - $5, 800 (Columbia SC)
Looks like flat black paint? With a pink light? And is it indeed an E55? https://columbia.craigslist.org/ctd/d/columbia-2008-mercedes-benz-e55/7437189842.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] runs as it should 2004 Mercedes-Benz S-Class,$5,500
It's calling for you! On 1/24/22 9:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I'm disappointed they didn't redo the interior in red vinyl and carpet as well. On Mon, Jan 24, 2022, at 6:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: It’s very... red. On Jan 24, 2022, at 6:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Run away, look away https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/475105017315831 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
Maybe she doesn't know the way to San Jose --FT On 1/25/22 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I don't know why she was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe there aren't electric car chargers all over that area... -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
Why would it be free? On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 10:12 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > And I believe you have to pay extra to be able to use the “supercharger” > feature, too, don’t you? > > -D > > > On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:08 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Charging rates vary, depending on what kind of feed you have, > > and what kind of charger(s) you purchased for your car. Our friends' > > Tesla charges pretty slowly at their vacation property, but all they > > have there is a regular wall outlet. It's faster at their house, with > > the 220V charger, and even faster at the Tesla charging stations. > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
And I believe you have to pay extra to be able to use the “supercharger” feature, too, don’t you? -D > On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:08 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > Charging rates vary, depending on what kind of feed you have, > and what kind of charger(s) you purchased for your car. Our friends' > Tesla charges pretty slowly at their vacation property, but all they > have there is a regular wall outlet. It's faster at their house, with > the 220V charger, and even faster at the Tesla charging stations. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
I was thinking 7 hours sounds like a 220v charger. IIRC a Tesla Super Charger is like 660v. -Curt On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 10:08:13 AM EST, Jim Cathey wrote: Charging rates vary, depending on what kind of feed you have, and what kind of charger(s) you purchased for your car. Our friends' Tesla charges pretty slowly at their vacation property, but all they have there is a regular wall outlet. It's faster at their house, with the 220V charger, and even faster at the Tesla charging stations. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
Charging rates vary, depending on what kind of feed you have, and what kind of charger(s) you purchased for your car. Our friends' Tesla charges pretty slowly at their vacation property, but all they have there is a regular wall outlet. It's faster at their house, with the 220V charger, and even faster at the Tesla charging stations. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
Is it possible this story is a hoax? On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 10:03 AM Curt Raymond wrote: > She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what she > was driving and didn't plan accordingly. > > The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla > charges to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't know > why she was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe there > aren't electric car chargers all over that area... > > -Curt > > > On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via > Mercedes wrote: > > > > > > Heidi needs a timeout. > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > And Mercedes wants to go all electric. > > Good luck with that. > > > > > > > https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ > > > > > > Rick > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what she was driving and didn't plan accordingly. The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla charges to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't know why she was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe there aren't electric car chargers all over that area... -Curt On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Heidi needs a timeout. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > And Mercedes wants to go all electric. > Good luck with that. > > > https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
Heidi needs a timeout. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > And Mercedes wants to go all electric. > Good luck with that. > > > https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should I Go Snatch This Up?
best car I ever had. now Dimitri's On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 9:00 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It’s been sitting for three weeks. > > AZBob > > > > > > > https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-1992-mercedes-300-turbo/7437201809.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bob Rentfro > > > > Nuclear Operations Training Instructor > > > > 5801 South Wintersburg Road, Tonopah, AZ 85354-7529, M.S. 7896 > > > > Office 623.393.6372 Cell 623-695-2072 > > > > > > > > --- NOTICE --- > > > > This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain > confidential, privileged or proprietary information. If you have received > it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original > and any copy or printout. Unintended recipients are prohibited from making > any other use of this e-mail. Although we have taken reasonable > precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, we accept no > liability for any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or > attachments, or for any delay or errors or omissions in the contents which > result from e-mail transmission. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] And now for something completely different
Unsafe at any speed yet curiously compelling... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-chevrolet-corvair-monza-25/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should I Go Snatch This Up?
Looks pretty nice but sitting that long could be a problem Sent from my iPad > On Jan 25, 2022, at 9:00 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > It’s been sitting for three weeks. > > AZBob >> >> >> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-1992-mercedes-300-turbo/7437201809.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Bob Rentfro >> >> Nuclear Operations Training Instructor >> >> 5801 South Wintersburg Road, Tonopah, AZ 85354-7529, M.S. 7896 >> >> Office 623.393.6372 Cell 623-695-2072 >> >> >> >> --- NOTICE --- >> >> This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain >> confidential, privileged or proprietary information. If you have received >> it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original >> and any copy or printout. Unintended recipients are prohibited from making >> any other use of this e-mail. Although we have taken reasonable precautions >> to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, we accept no liability for >> any loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments, or >> for any delay or errors or omissions in the contents which result from >> e-mail transmission. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Should I Go Snatch This Up?
It’s been sitting for three weeks. AZBob > > > https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-1992-mercedes-300-turbo/7437201809.html > > > > > > > > Bob Rentfro > > Nuclear Operations Training Instructor > > 5801 South Wintersburg Road, Tonopah, AZ 85354-7529, M.S. 7896 > > Office 623.393.6372 Cell 623-695-2072 > > > > --- NOTICE --- > > This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain > confidential, privileged or proprietary information. If you have received it > in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original and > any copy or printout. Unintended recipients are prohibited from making any > other use of this e-mail. Although we have taken reasonable precautions to > ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, we accept no liability for any > loss or damage arising from the use of this e-mail or attachments, or for any > delay or errors or omissions in the contents which result from e-mail > transmission. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
And Mercedes wants to go all electric. Good luck with that. https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/ Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
