Re: [MBZ] 2010 GL450 - 144k miles - $10,400

2022-01-26 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I’m not answer for any low ball

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> Looks pretty nice. Not sure I'd pay that price. Looked up the VIN and it 
> does not seem to have any towing option fitted.
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Re: [MBZ] Chicago crack must be good - 2017 E300

2022-01-26 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
No tittle. Ran when wrecked 

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[MBZ] 2010 GL450 - 144k miles - $10,400

2022-01-26 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Looks pretty nice. Not sure I'd pay that price. Looked up the VIN and it does 
not seem to have any towing option fitted.

https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/nashville-mercedes-gl/7438094969.html

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[MBZ] Chicago crack must be good - 2017 E300

2022-01-26 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] wow

2022-01-26 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Has hitch. Probably worth $100

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Re: [MBZ] wow

2022-01-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Interior looks decent.

-D

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[MBZ] wow

2022-01-26 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

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Re: [MBZ] Pink Wrap? YAAASSS, Please!!

2022-01-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
If they have the "pink slip” (title) you’re good if you’re going out of state. 
If they don’t, and often times they don’t, the only way you can get it is by 
settling up with the CA DMV. If you remain in CA you’re screwed.

I found this out when I bought the 62 300SE two decades ago and it had been in 
storage for 4+ years. The estate attorneys didn’t have the pink slip and it was 
going to cost me something like $2k to settle up on all the fees to get the 
title, which Florida insisted I have (no bill of sale.) In CA they actually 
charge an annual "non-operation” registration fee on cars that aren’t on the 
road. In other words, even if you park it you pay.

B1 went to his AAA branch and had them run the numbers on it for me. It was 
something like $2200 for me to settle up with all the back fees and penalties 
to get the title, and I had to do it in person. I told the CA DMV to suck it 
and washed the title through a service in MS or AL for something like $500. 
Vermont wasn’t an option at the time as far as I know.

-D


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> Don’t you still have to payback registration even if you aren’t in Cali? A 
> guy tried to convince me of that a couple of years ago when I was looking at 
> grandpa’s W115 that had been sitting in his garage for a couple of years. 
> 
> AZBob
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>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, the wrap looks like it was well done from the photos.
>> 
>> Danger - it’s a CA car and the registration is expired. The title better be 
>> clear or you’ll pay dearly to settle up with the CA DMV. If you’re outside 
>> of CA, you should be good.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
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>>> Doesn’t look bad except for the wrap 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 5:36 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Remember, this isn’t Banned. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1990 300E

2022-01-26 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I have not driven a 300E but I had a friend who had bought one new and loved 
it. Rode in it a coupla times, it was quite peppy and the 124 is bank vault 
solid. If it checks out you’d probably be quite happy with it. The seats in the 
95E320 are the most comfortable Benz seats I have sat/rode/driven in

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> I can’t get the clown to answer.  Persistence is key. 
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>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:59 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Looks nice. Def check it out
>> 
>> --FT
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 On Jan 26, 2022, at 2:22 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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>>> This looks tidy. May have to run over and look.  Never had a gasser W124. 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Pink Wrap? YAAASSS, Please!!

2022-01-26 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Don’t you still have to payback registration even if you aren’t in Cali? A guy 
tried to convince me of that a couple of years ago when I was looking at 
grandpa’s W115 that had been sitting in his garage for a couple of years. 

AZBob

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, the wrap looks like it was well done from the photos.
> 
> Danger - it’s a CA car and the registration is expired. The title better be 
> clear or you’ll pay dearly to settle up with the CA DMV. If you’re outside of 
> CA, you should be good.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> 
>> Doesn’t look bad except for the wrap 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Jan 26, 2022, at 5:36 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
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>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1990 300E

2022-01-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Gotta love it. CL is getting as bad as FB.

-D

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:27 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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> I can’t get the clown to answer.  Persistence is key. 
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>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:59 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Looks nice. Def check it out
>> 
>> --FT
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>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 2:22 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This looks tidy. May have to run over and look.  Never had a gasser W124. 
>>> 
>>> AZBob
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1990 300E

2022-01-26 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Par for the course.

On 1/26/2022 8:27 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

I can’t get the clown to answer.  Persistence is key.

AZBob

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On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:59 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Looks nice. Def check it out

--FT
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On Jan 26, 2022, at 2:22 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

This looks tidy. May have to run over and look.  Never had a gasser W124.

AZBob


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1990 300E

2022-01-26 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I can’t get the clown to answer.  Persistence is key. 

AZBob

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:59 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> Looks nice. Def check it out
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> --FT
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>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 2:22 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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>> This looks tidy. May have to run over and look.  Never had a gasser W124. 
>> 
>> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] Pink Wrap? YAAASSS, Please!!

2022-01-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Yeah, the wrap looks like it was well done from the photos.

Danger - it’s a CA car and the registration is expired. The title better be 
clear or you’ll pay dearly to settle up with the CA DMV. If you’re outside of 
CA, you should be good.

-D

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> Doesn’t look bad except for the wrap 
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>> AZBob
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>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Pink Wrap? YAAASSS, Please!!

2022-01-26 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Mary Kay is giving out old dizzels now 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
At higher speeds you get tire and wind noise but at parking lot or intersection 
turn speeds there’s no aural cue. I definitely don’t wear listening devices. 
Maybe I need rear radar sensors. I think there actually is such a thing for 
bikes 

--FT
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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Apparently there is a rule, sounds like implemention was delayed a bit but 
> maybe by now it is in force? So the newest EVs and Hybrids should have 
> noisemakers to alert pedestrians to their presence below 19MPH. Not sure this 
> really helps a cyclist with an EV passing at 30MPH, but I see so many people 
> cycling with ear buds these days that I'm thinking it might not make a lot of 
> difference.
> 
> https://www.inverse.com/article/23731-nhtsa-electric-cars-make-noise
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 5:51 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Dunno, but this thing doesn’t make any noise. It’s creepy.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Jan 26, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I thought there was a law or DOT reg that said EVs had to have some kind of 
>>> noisemaker because they are too quiet? Maybe it was just something that was 
>>> proposed?
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 5:19 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
 I have come close to being run over by a Pious 2X while on my bike when 
 they came up behind me and tried to pass (illegally), couldn’t hear 
 them and did not see them until they were right there. I was lucky. 
 
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> A neighbor has one of the Korean EVs, I don’t recall the brand. I dislike 
> it from the standpoint that I can’t hear it. We live on a cul-de-sac, 
> which at one time was filled with kids. I can see where the lack of noise 
> could cause an accident as you don’t hear it coming.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I figured out why the ML ended up at copart

2022-01-26 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Probably.

On 1/26/2022 8:04 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

So basically someone was too lazy to scan it then fix it or didn’t want to 
spend money to fix it

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On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:



Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 26, 2022, at 5:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

The photo of the readout was too tiny to read.  What did it say?


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Is cps replacement easy and affordable?

Sent from my iPhone


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Just got it home, fired it up and unloaded it off the trailer. Drove it

a mile up the road and back and it seems fine. Got it home and shut it off.
Tried to restart it and just cranks. Tried again it fired for a second then
that was it. Does have a check engine light. I’m betting CPS. Appears it
was traded in at a dealer. They probably didn’t want to mess with it.
Otherwise the engine appears nice and dry contrary to the GL. Does have a
little side swipe damage. Looks like they replaced the RF door but the rest
they left which is not that bad.







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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I figured out why the ML ended up at copart

2022-01-26 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
So basically someone was too lazy to scan it then fix it or didn’t want to 
spend money to fix it

--FT
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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 5:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The photo of the readout was too tiny to read.  What did it say?
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 6:49 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is cps replacement easy and affordable?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Just got it home, fired it up and unloaded it off the trailer. Drove it
>>> a mile up the road and back and it seems fine. Got it home and shut it off.
>>> Tried to restart it and just cranks. Tried again it fired for a second then
>>> that was it. Does have a check engine light. I’m betting CPS. Appears it
>>> was traded in at a dealer. They probably didn’t want to mess with it.
>>> Otherwise the engine appears nice and dry contrary to the GL. Does have a
>>> little side swipe damage. Looks like they replaced the RF door but the rest
>>> they left which is not that bad.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1990 300E

2022-01-26 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Looks nice. Def check it out

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> This looks tidy. May have to run over and look.  Never had a gasser W124. 
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
On second thought, solar panels may good to prevent the big battery from
becoming an expensive brick during long-term parking.  For example if you
park at the airport and fly off for a two-week vacation (never use the
parking garage). I have read of cases (pre-Tesla, I think) where the battery
went into self-protection lockdown while parked and the only fix was a new
battery.  Not sure if the new batts can be saved or not in that scenario.

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From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2022 12:24 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

My attempt at "doing the math:" solar radiation at noon on a clear day is,
from what I can tell, about 1KW/m^2. How many square meters on a car roof?
Maybe two or a little more? Photovoltaic cells are 20% efficient at best. So
you have 400-450 Watts to work with at noon, less before and after. That
will impart some charge to the battery, but even in an 8 hour workday it
won't be enough to put back what you used driving to work.

On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 11:44 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> Still a niche car.  Do the math.  Panels may be OK to recharge while 
> you are at work on a sunny day but they can't keep up while driving.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 8:53 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
>
> Tesla has finally come out or will soon with an EV with solar panels 
> on the roof so you can drive almost indefinitely, in theory.
>
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>
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> > I thought I saw something the other day that said new Pioi were 
>> > PIHs but maybe I misread.  I don't know what MB's plans are in that
regard.
>>
>> I thought MB announced plans for their passenger autos to be 100% BEV 
>> by
>> 2025 or 2030? I'm not sure but maybe they are still planning some 
>> hybrid models.
>>
>> Several Euro countries are demanding this, as well as a few states in 
>> the US (California mandating zero-emission (a/k/a remote emission) 
>> cars by 2035).
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1990 300E

2022-01-26 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Worth looking at for sure.

On 1/26/2022 1:21 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

This looks tidy. May have to run over and look.  Never had a gasser W124.

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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I figured out why the ML ended up at copart

2022-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I wonder if that's the equivalent of "cracked air charge hoses" that lit up
the CEL on my 2014 Bluetec E250 SUV.  Parts + labor were around $850 IIRC.

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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jan 26, 2022, at 5:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The photo of the readout was too tiny to read.  What did it say?
> >
> >> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 6:49 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Is cps replacement easy and affordable?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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> >>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just got it home, fired it up and unloaded it off the trailer. Drove
> it
> >> a mile up the road and back and it seems fine. Got it home and shut it
> off.
> >> Tried to restart it and just cranks. Tried again it fired for a second
> then
> >> that was it. Does have a check engine light. I’m betting CPS. Appears it
> >> was traded in at a dealer. They probably didn’t want to mess with it.
> >> Otherwise the engine appears nice and dry contrary to the GL. Does have
> a
> >> little side swipe damage. Looks like they replaced the RF door but the
> rest
> >> they left which is not that bad.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I figured out why the ML ended up at copart

2022-01-26 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes


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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 5:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The photo of the readout was too tiny to read.  What did it say?
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 6:49 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Is cps replacement easy and affordable?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just got it home, fired it up and unloaded it off the trailer. Drove it
>> a mile up the road and back and it seems fine. Got it home and shut it off.
>> Tried to restart it and just cranks. Tried again it fired for a second then
>> that was it. Does have a check engine light. I’m betting CPS. Appears it
>> was traded in at a dealer. They probably didn’t want to mess with it.
>> Otherwise the engine appears nice and dry contrary to the GL. Does have a
>> little side swipe damage. Looks like they replaced the RF door but the rest
>> they left which is not that bad.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I figured out why the ML ended up at copart

2022-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The photo of the readout was too tiny to read.  What did it say?

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 6:49 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Is cps replacement easy and affordable?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jan 26, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Just got it home, fired it up and unloaded it off the trailer. Drove it
> a mile up the road and back and it seems fine. Got it home and shut it off.
> Tried to restart it and just cranks. Tried again it fired for a second then
> that was it. Does have a check engine light. I’m betting CPS. Appears it
> was traded in at a dealer. They probably didn’t want to mess with it.
> Otherwise the engine appears nice and dry contrary to the GL. Does have a
> little side swipe damage. Looks like they replaced the RF door but the rest
> they left which is not that bad.
> >
> >
> > 
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I figured out why the ML ended up at copart

2022-01-26 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Is cps replacement easy and affordable?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just got it home, fired it up and unloaded it off the trailer. Drove it a 
> mile up the road and back and it seems fine. Got it home and shut it off. 
> Tried to restart it and just cranks. Tried again it fired for a second then 
> that was it. Does have a check engine light. I’m betting CPS. Appears it was 
> traded in at a dealer. They probably didn’t want to mess with it. Otherwise 
> the engine appears nice and dry contrary to the GL. Does have a little side 
> swipe damage. Looks like they replaced the RF door but the rest they left 
> which is not that bad.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Pink Wrap? YAAASSS, Please!!

2022-01-26 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Doesn’t look bad except for the wrap 

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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I figured out why the ML ended up at copart

2022-01-26 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Nope. Here is what DAS shows.



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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 5:37 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> 
> Crankshaft position sensor. Common fail item for a crank but won’t start.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> CPS??
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 4:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just got it home, fired it up and unloaded it off the trailer. Drove it a
>>> mile up the road and back and it seems fine. Got it home and shut it off.
>>> Tried to restart it and just cranks. Tried again it fired for a second then
>>> that was it. Does have a check engine light. I’m betting CPS. Appears it
>>> was traded in at a dealer. They probably didn’t want to mess with it.
>>> Otherwise the engine appears nice and dry contrary to the GL. Does have a
>>> little side swipe damage. Looks like they replaced the RF door but the rest
>>> they left which is not that bad.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Picked up the copart ML

2022-01-26 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
SEND INFO

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Remind me tonight when I’m home 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:46 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> REMINDER
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
 On 1/25/22 9:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> You might have to remind me tomorrow
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail via 
> Mercedes  wrote:
 
 Send me that info. I might want to do it on this 06ML500 that needs a 
 tranny rebuild
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 6:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via 
> Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I have the factory procedure and part info that is required. If you do 
> not have the right rear Sam, you have to get one then a couple of wiring 
> harnesses.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Floyd Thursby via 
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> you can't just slap on a hitch and expect to tow with it (well, you 
>> can, but the nannies will go schizo), you need the towing nanny and to 
>> get it integrated into the whole car system which is doable but takes 
>> some doing.  You'll have to find a junker to pull all the bits from then 
>> fool around with getting it working.
>> 
>> I got a hitch from eTrailer (I think) or maybe got one off Amazon or 
>> eBay or something cheaper than their price.  These work fine unless you 
>> can find the MB version off a junker.  There is some cutting of a heat 
>> shield and something else I don't recall involved, eTrailer has an 
>> install vid on their website and I think the hitch had instructions with 
>> it too.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
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>>> Strapped it down to the trailer in 18 degree Nebraska temps. No telling 
>>> how long it was sitting but battery had just enough charge to turn it 
>>> over and it started. Runs fine. Beyond that don’t know anything yet. I 
>>> do know it’s missing the right read door panel for some reason. Will 
>>> need that and of course a factory hitch.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I figured out why the ML ended up at copart

2022-01-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Crankshaft position sensor. Common fail item for a crank but won’t start.

-D

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> CPS??
> 
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 4:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Just got it home, fired it up and unloaded it off the trailer. Drove it a
>> mile up the road and back and it seems fine. Got it home and shut it off.
>> Tried to restart it and just cranks. Tried again it fired for a second then
>> that was it. Does have a check engine light. I’m betting CPS. Appears it
>> was traded in at a dealer. They probably didn’t want to mess with it.
>> Otherwise the engine appears nice and dry contrary to the GL. Does have a
>> little side swipe damage. Looks like they replaced the RF door but the rest
>> they left which is not that bad.
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] Pink Wrap? YAAASSS, Please!!

2022-01-26 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I figured out why the ML ended up at copart

2022-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
CPS??

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> Just got it home, fired it up and unloaded it off the trailer. Drove it a
> mile up the road and back and it seems fine. Got it home and shut it off.
> Tried to restart it and just cranks. Tried again it fired for a second then
> that was it. Does have a check engine light. I’m betting CPS. Appears it
> was traded in at a dealer. They probably didn’t want to mess with it.
> Otherwise the engine appears nice and dry contrary to the GL. Does have a
> little side swipe damage. Looks like they replaced the RF door but the rest
> they left which is not that bad.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Apparently there is a rule, sounds like implemention was delayed a bit but 
maybe by now it is in force? So the newest EVs and Hybrids should have 
noisemakers to alert pedestrians to their presence below 19MPH. Not sure this 
really helps a cyclist with an EV passing at 30MPH, but I see so many people 
cycling with ear buds these days that I'm thinking it might not make a lot of 
difference.

https://www.inverse.com/article/23731-nhtsa-electric-cars-make-noise


On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 5:51 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Dunno, but this thing doesn’t make any noise. It’s creepy.
>
> -D
>
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I thought there was a law or DOT reg that said EVs had to have some kind of 
>> noisemaker because they are too quiet? Maybe it was just something that was 
>> proposed?
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 5:19 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I have come close to being run over by a Pious 2X while on my bike when 
>>> they came up behind me and tried to pass (illegally), couldn’t hear 
>>> them and did not see them until they were right there. I was lucky. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
 On Jan 26, 2022, at 2:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 A neighbor has one of the Korean EVs, I don’t recall the brand. I dislike 
 it from the standpoint that I can’t hear it. We live on a cul-de-sac, 
 which at one time was filled with kids. I can see where the lack of noise 
 could cause an accident as you don’t hear it coming.
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Dunno, but this thing doesn’t make any noise. It’s creepy.

-D

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 5:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I thought there was a law or DOT reg that said EVs had to have some kind of 
> noisemaker because they are too quiet? Maybe it was just something that was 
> proposed?
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 5:19 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have come close to being run over by a Pious 2X while on my bike when 
>> they came up behind me and tried to pass (illegally), couldn’t hear 
>> them and did not see them until they were right there. I was lucky. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 2:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A neighbor has one of the Korean EVs, I don’t recall the brand. I dislike 
>>> it from the standpoint that I can’t hear it. We live on a cul-de-sac, which 
>>> at one time was filled with kids. I can see where the lack of noise could 
>>> cause an accident as you don’t hear it coming.
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I thought there was a law or DOT reg that said EVs had to have some kind of 
noisemaker because they are too quiet? Maybe it was just something that was 
proposed?

Allan

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 5:19 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> I have come close to being run over by a Pious 2X while on my bike when 
> they came up behind me and tried to pass (illegally), couldn’t hear 
> them and did not see them until they were right there. I was lucky. 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 2:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A neighbor has one of the Korean EVs, I don’t recall the brand. I dislike it 
>> from the standpoint that I can’t hear it. We live on a cul-de-sac, which at 
>> one time was filled with kids. I can see where the lack of noise could cause 
>> an accident as you don’t hear it coming.
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I have come close to being run over by a Pious 2X while on my bike when they 
came up behind me and tried to pass (illegally), couldn’t hear them and did not 
see them until they were right there. I was lucky. 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 2:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A neighbor has one of the Korean EVs, I don’t recall the brand. I dislike it 
> from the standpoint that I can’t hear it. We live on a cul-de-sac, which at 
> one time was filled with kids. I can see where the lack of noise could cause 
> an accident as you don’t hear it coming.

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[MBZ] If the dashboard comes back on I will raise the price - 2008 CLK350 - $4, 800

2022-01-26 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
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[MBZ] Condition is fear - 1992 190E 2.6 - 186k miles - $2,399

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[MBZ] Maybe I figured out why the ML ended up at copart

2022-01-26 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Just got it home, fired it up and unloaded it off the trailer. Drove it a mile 
up the road and back and it seems fine. Got it home and shut it off. Tried to 
restart it and just cranks. Tried again it fired for a second then that was it. 
Does have a check engine light. I’m betting CPS. Appears it was traded in at a 
dealer. They probably didn’t want to mess with it. Otherwise the engine appears 
nice and dry contrary to the GL. Does have a little side swipe damage. Looks 
like they replaced the RF door but the rest they left which is not that bad.





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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Other than the car payment aspect, I could deal with the rest of these. 
However, and not to beat the proverbial horse, I don’t see these being any 
better for the environment for a wealth of reasons that have already been 
addressed. When you consider the materials required for the batteries you could 
probably make the case that they’re worse.

My former employer had free charging stations for EV drivers, so if you played 
your cards right you could even unload much of the charging cost off to them.

A neighbor has one of the Korean EVs, I don’t recall the brand. I dislike it 
from the standpoint that I can’t hear it. We live on a cul-de-sac, which at one 
time was filled with kids. I can see where the lack of noise could cause an 
accident as you don’t hear it coming.

-D

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> To me they would make sense for the person who:
> 
> - considers car payments to be a normal monthly budget item; finances new 
> cars or leases them
> 
> - has very predictible driving that falls within the vehicle range limits
> 
> - has a garage or nightly parking where a 240VAC charging point (or better) 
> can be installed or is provided, or has a "supercharger" that is on a routine 
> route and has time to stop and use it as needed.
> 
> - is willing to tolerate the hassle of renting a car when needed for 
> convenient travel beyond range limits.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 2:14 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> Some friends of mine in Houston sold both their gassers some years ago 
>> and bought teslas because they liked the technology and the idea of 
>> them, they mostly drove in town, occasional trips of maybe a couple 
>> hundred miles, so for them an electric made a lot of sense. They really 
>> didn’t have much concern for appearances. And they have plenty of money 
>> so that wasn’t a concern really. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The biggest problem that electric cars have is the smugness. Many people 
>>> are super turned off by it.
>>> OTOH there are a whole bunch of people who have electric cars ONLY because 
>>> of the smug factor...
>>> 
>>> I figure if something looks to good to be true there has to be a catch. So 
>>> far nobody that owns a Tesla will admit the catch to me.
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 11:33:53 AM EST, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Don't get me wrong, I think an electric panel on top of a car is a good 
>>> idea.
>>> It just shouldn't enable any smugness factor.  But it can 'pay' for 
>>> ventilation
>>> while parked, can counter the car's parasitic loads, and perhaps avoid the
>>> battery degradation that occurs when they're left too far discharged?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I suspect this covers most people. Remembering that most people don't even know 
how (or why) to check the oil in their car...

I also know that my friends in LA live in about a 5 mile radius of their house. 
Which is to say they rarely leave a 5 mile radius because traffic is so bad 
that it'd take too long to get any farther. So they only rarely need any extra 
mileage. I suspect this is true for most people that live around any large 
cities.

We have to acknowledge that we are outliers...


-Curt

 On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 02:45:57 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 


To me they would make sense for the person who:

- considers car payments to be a normal monthly budget item; finances new cars 
or leases them

- has very predictible driving that falls within the vehicle range limits

- has a garage or nightly parking where a 240VAC charging point (or better) can 
be installed or is provided, or has a "supercharger" that is on a routine route 
and has time to stop and use it as needed.

- is willing to tolerate the hassle of renting a car when needed for convenient 
travel beyond range limits.


On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 2:14 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Some friends of mine in Houston sold both their gassers some years ago 
> and bought teslas because they liked the technology and the idea of 
> them, they mostly drove in town, occasional trips of maybe a couple 
> hundred miles, so for them an electric made a lot of sense. They really 
> didn’t have much concern for appearances. And they have plenty of money 
> so that wasn’t a concern really. 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The biggest problem that electric cars have is the smugness. Many people 
>> are super turned off by it.
>> OTOH there are a whole bunch of people who have electric cars ONLY because 
>> of the smug factor...
>> 
>> I figure if something looks to good to be true there has to be a catch. So 
>> far nobody that owns a Tesla will admit the catch to me.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 11:33:53 AM EST, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
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>> It just shouldn't enable any smugness factor.  But it can 'pay' for 
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>> while parked, can counter the car's parasitic loads, and perhaps avoid the
>> battery degradation that occurs when they're left too far discharged?
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I can sell mine for this much

2022-01-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

If you read all of the text in the ad, he says it is a 220D.
No idea why the title refers to a 300D.

Randy

On 26/01/2022 12:09 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

I didn't think the 300D was available in 1968 - isn't it a '75-'76
engine/car?

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Where's the trunk photo showing the badge?  I had a W108 280SE in the same
Arabian Gray/parchment color combo.

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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
To me they would make sense for the person who:

- considers car payments to be a normal monthly budget item; finances new cars 
or leases them

- has very predictible driving that falls within the vehicle range limits

- has a garage or nightly parking where a 240VAC charging point (or better) can 
be installed or is provided, or has a "supercharger" that is on a routine route 
and has time to stop and use it as needed.

- is willing to tolerate the hassle of renting a car when needed for convenient 
travel beyond range limits.


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> Some friends of mine in Houston sold both their gassers some years ago 
> and bought teslas because they liked the technology and the idea of 
> them, they mostly drove in town, occasional trips of maybe a couple 
> hundred miles, so for them an electric made a lot of sense. They really 
> didn’t have much concern for appearances. And they have plenty of money 
> so that wasn’t a concern really. 
>
> --FT
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>> The biggest problem that electric cars have is the smugness. Many people 
>> are super turned off by it.
>> OTOH there are a whole bunch of people who have electric cars ONLY because 
>> of the smug factor...
>> 
>> I figure if something looks to good to be true there has to be a catch. So 
>> far nobody that owns a Tesla will admit the catch to me.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 11:33:53 AM EST, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> Don't get me wrong, I think an electric panel on top of a car is a good idea.
>> It just shouldn't enable any smugness factor.  But it can 'pay' for 
>> ventilation
>> while parked, can counter the car's parasitic loads, and perhaps avoid the
>> battery degradation that occurs when they're left too far discharged?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1990 300E

2022-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The interior is a complete unknown but the red exterior is luscious.

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[MBZ] Fwd: 1990 300E

2022-01-26 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
This looks tidy. May have to run over and look.  Never had a gasser W124. 

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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Some friends of mine in Houston sold both their gassers some years ago and 
bought teslas because they liked the technology and the idea of them, they 
mostly drove in town, occasional trips of maybe a couple hundred miles, so for 
them an electric made a lot of sense. They really didn’t have much concern for 
appearances. And they have plenty of money so that wasn’t a concern really. 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The biggest problem that electric cars have is the smugness. Many people are 
> super turned off by it.
> OTOH there are a whole bunch of people who have electric cars ONLY because of 
> the smug factor...
> 
> I figure if something looks to good to be true there has to be a catch. So 
> far nobody that owns a Tesla will admit the catch to me.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 11:33:53 AM EST, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I think an electric panel on top of a car is a good idea.
> It just shouldn't enable any smugness factor.  But it can 'pay' for 
> ventilation
> while parked, can counter the car's parasitic loads, and perhaps avoid the
> battery degradation that occurs when they're left too far discharged?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
They'll tell you, oh how they'll tell you...

 -Curt

On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 12:15:33 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote: 


With all those flaws how can a driver be regarded as "smug"?

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:54 AM Jim Cathey  wrote:

> > I figure if something looks to[o] good to be true there has to be a
> catch.
> > So far nobody that owns a Tesla will admit the catch to me.
>
>
> They're quite expensive.  They're a video game with four wheels.  You have
> to do meticulous trip planning if you're doing more than routine commuting.
> They can and do catch fire.  If you park too close to a radio/TV
> transmitter
> you can't unlock them.
>
> Other than that they're great.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I can sell mine for this much

2022-01-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Ah - I didn't look closely enough, it looks just like my OM615 engine in
the '70 220D.

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> Clearly a W115, and a 4-cylinder diesel.  So, one of 200D/220D/240D.
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I can sell mine for this much

2022-01-26 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Clearly a W115, and a 4-cylinder diesel.  So, one of 200D/220D/240D.

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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I can sell mine for this much

2022-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It is not a W108 or 123 so must be a 114/115.

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 1:10 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
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> I didn't think the 300D was available in 1968 - isn't it a '75-'76
> engine/car?
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:41 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> > Where's the trunk photo showing the badge?  I had a W108 280SE in the
> same
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What about diesel owners?  Do we not deserve to feel smug?

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> > OTOH there are a whole bunch of people who have electric cars ONLY
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> South Park "Smug" episode. Hilarious.
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Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4matic transfer case rebuild surprisingly easy

2022-01-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
For a Mercedes the only one I would trust is Dun Valley.

-D

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 1:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have heard so many horror stories about transmission rebuilds. My parents 
> had a '71 or '72 Buick that went through three or four transmission rebuilds.
> 
> I think there are a _lot_ of bad rebuilders out there. Would be good to know 
> if there is a list of known good shops.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> I had the transmission rebuilt on my first 1983 300TD and it was a
>> nightmare.  The shop needed a couple do-overs to get it right.  For my
>> current 300TD I purchased a used 1985 transmission from LKQ and had my indy
>> tech do an R/R.  For 10 years it has worked flawlessly.
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 9:53 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> There is a supplier called Transtar I think that sells all the rebuild
>>> kits with the clutches and seals and such and rebuild shops use them (I
>>> think this guy mentioned them in some vid I watched), and of course
>>> there are kits all over on eBay which are probably OK if you get
>>> something with a brand name but who knows WTF might show up.  There are
>>> also other companies that will sell them off their websites and I would
>>> probably trust getting those directly.  I don't know that MB sell
>>> rebuild kits but maybe, I've never seen any offered.
>>> 
>>> Raybestos have 722.9 kits and there are other vendors that sell
>>> 
>>> https://www.raybestospowertrain.com/friction-clutch-packs/rgpz-025
>>> 
>>> And there is this shop but who knows the source
>>> https://www.oregonperformancetransmission.com/product/OPT-722-9-RB.html
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 1/25/22 6:39 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 I’ve done it, but again, it was on domestic boxes (PowerGlide, THMs,
>>> C4s, etc.) and some years ago, but in all honesty it’s not that difficult
>>> if you’ve got a clean place to work and some good quality snap ring pliers
>>> and compressed air. Heck, with the resources on the Interwebs these days
>>> it’s got to be a heck of a lot easier. And yes, there are a lot of third
>>> party places selling parts for them, although I would make sure I get stuff
>>> like seals from Mercedes or a reputable supplier.
 
 -D
 
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes<
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>  wrote:
> 
> I was thinking he might be a resource for your car.  Auto transmissions
>>> have always been kinda voodoo for me but watching his vids show they are
>>> not particularly complicated, and parts seem to be readily available, mostly
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 1/25/22 5:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yeah I like his videos. He has a couple on the Honda CRV/Element
>>> transmissions that gave me the idea that I might be able to rebuild mine.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> This guy has a transmission shop and has posted some good videos of
>>> transmission repairs including 722.9s.  This one is of the transfer
>>> case
>>> that is part of the whole transmissions, it looked surprisingly easy
>>> to
>>> do the repair on a worn front output shaft. The 722.9 vids show it is
>>> not particularly complicated to repair the clutches and such, the
>>> biggest problem would be getting it out and back in
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id99fyXX-Hk
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I can sell mine for this much

2022-01-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I didn't think the 300D was available in 1968 - isn't it a '75-'76
engine/car?

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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> OTOH there are a whole bunch of people who have electric cars ONLY because of 
> the smug factor...

South Park "Smug" episode. Hilarious.


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Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4matic transfer case rebuild surprisingly easy

2022-01-26 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I have heard so many horror stories about transmission rebuilds. My parents had 
a '71 or '72 Buick that went through three or four transmission rebuilds.

I think there are a _lot_ of bad rebuilders out there. Would be good to know if 
there is a list of known good shops.



On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 12:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> I had the transmission rebuilt on my first 1983 300TD and it was a
> nightmare.  The shop needed a couple do-overs to get it right.  For my
> current 300TD I purchased a used 1985 transmission from LKQ and had my indy
> tech do an R/R.  For 10 years it has worked flawlessly.
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 9:53 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> There is a supplier called Transtar I think that sells all the rebuild
>> kits with the clutches and seals and such and rebuild shops use them (I
>> think this guy mentioned them in some vid I watched), and of course
>> there are kits all over on eBay which are probably OK if you get
>> something with a brand name but who knows WTF might show up.  There are
>> also other companies that will sell them off their websites and I would
>> probably trust getting those directly.  I don't know that MB sell
>> rebuild kits but maybe, I've never seen any offered.
>>
>> Raybestos have 722.9 kits and there are other vendors that sell
>>
>> https://www.raybestospowertrain.com/friction-clutch-packs/rgpz-025
>>
>> And there is this shop but who knows the source
>> https://www.oregonperformancetransmission.com/product/OPT-722-9-RB.html
>>
>> --FT
>>
>> On 1/25/22 6:39 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> > I’ve done it, but again, it was on domestic boxes (PowerGlide, THMs,
>> C4s, etc.) and some years ago, but in all honesty it’s not that difficult
>> if you’ve got a clean place to work and some good quality snap ring pliers
>> and compressed air. Heck, with the resources on the Interwebs these days
>> it’s got to be a heck of a lot easier. And yes, there are a lot of third
>> party places selling parts for them, although I would make sure I get stuff
>> like seals from Mercedes or a reputable supplier.
>> >
>> > -D
>> >
>> >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes<
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I was thinking he might be a resource for your car.  Auto transmissions
>> have always been kinda voodoo for me but watching his vids show they are
>> not particularly complicated, and parts seem to be readily available, mostly
>> >>
>> >> --FT
>> >>
>> >> On 1/25/22 5:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> >>> Yeah I like his videos. He has a couple on the Honda CRV/Element
>> transmissions that gave me the idea that I might be able to rebuild mine.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>  This guy has a transmission shop and has posted some good videos of
>>  transmission repairs including 722.9s.  This one is of the transfer
>> case
>>  that is part of the whole transmissions, it looked surprisingly easy
>> to
>>  do the repair on a worn front output shaft. The 722.9 vids show it is
>>  not particularly complicated to repair the clutches and such, the
>>  biggest problem would be getting it out and back in
>> 
>>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id99fyXX-Hk
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4matic transfer case rebuild surprisingly easy

2022-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I had the transmission rebuilt on my first 1983 300TD and it was a
nightmare.  The shop needed a couple do-overs to get it right.  For my
current 300TD I purchased a used 1985 transmission from LKQ and had my indy
tech do an R/R.  For 10 years it has worked flawlessly.

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 9:53 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> There is a supplier called Transtar I think that sells all the rebuild
> kits with the clutches and seals and such and rebuild shops use them (I
> think this guy mentioned them in some vid I watched), and of course
> there are kits all over on eBay which are probably OK if you get
> something with a brand name but who knows WTF might show up.  There are
> also other companies that will sell them off their websites and I would
> probably trust getting those directly.  I don't know that MB sell
> rebuild kits but maybe, I've never seen any offered.
>
> Raybestos have 722.9 kits and there are other vendors that sell
>
> https://www.raybestospowertrain.com/friction-clutch-packs/rgpz-025
>
> And there is this shop but who knows the source
> https://www.oregonperformancetransmission.com/product/OPT-722-9-RB.html
>
> --FT
>
> On 1/25/22 6:39 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > I’ve done it, but again, it was on domestic boxes (PowerGlide, THMs,
> C4s, etc.) and some years ago, but in all honesty it’s not that difficult
> if you’ve got a clean place to work and some good quality snap ring pliers
> and compressed air. Heck, with the resources on the Interwebs these days
> it’s got to be a heck of a lot easier. And yes, there are a lot of third
> party places selling parts for them, although I would make sure I get stuff
> like seals from Mercedes or a reputable supplier.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>  wrote:
> >>
> >> I was thinking he might be a resource for your car.  Auto transmissions
> have always been kinda voodoo for me but watching his vids show they are
> not particularly complicated, and parts seem to be readily available, mostly
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >> On 1/25/22 5:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Yeah I like his videos. He has a couple on the Honda CRV/Element
> transmissions that gave me the idea that I might be able to rebuild mine.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>  This guy has a transmission shop and has posted some good videos of
>  transmission repairs including 722.9s.  This one is of the transfer
> case
>  that is part of the whole transmissions, it looked surprisingly easy
> to
>  do the repair on a worn front output shaft. The 722.9 vids show it is
>  not particularly complicated to repair the clutches and such, the
>  biggest problem would be getting it out and back in
> 
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id99fyXX-Hk
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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Does it dehumidify even while in heating mode?

Almost certainly not, other than the natural decrease in RH as
the temperature goes up with a fixed amount of moisture in the
air.  To actually _remove_ moisture you have to _cool_ the air
to get below the dew point, and then drain it away, and then
heat the air back up to the desired temperature.  That would
be 2x the amount of coilage in the head unit.

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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Does it dehumidify even while in heating mode?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:52 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a minisplit in my garage and find it to be great solution.  The
> initial goal was heat, but the AC is a real luxury.  The dehumidifying
> feature is also really useful in early spring
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 10:43 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes but is a heat pump or mini split suitable for my specific garage
>> scenario?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am pretty much a heat pump believer. Even during the coldest months
>> with some days it running almost non stop for a day at a time our highest
>> electric bill is maybe $250. With natural gas the gas bill would probably
>> be close to that plus another $100-$150 electric bill.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 The nice thing about heat pumps is you essentially get AC "for free".
>> Where you are they should be good for all but the coldest nights. Since
>> you're talking electric heat in the bathrooms anyway (I'd say drain one of
>> them for the winter) then let the place go cold on those really cold nights
>> to save $$.
 
 Alternately get the wells sunk to do a geothermal heat pump and use
>> them for both the house and garage but that's a big  upfront cost...
 
 -Curt
 
 
 On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 09:52:34 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
 
 
 I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in
>> midcoast Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some
>> are 2x6 and they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling
>> is 26 feet for most of it with exception of a small area that has lower
>> ceiling. There will be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in
>> partial loft. Loft will be open to the rest of the garage so essentially
>> one big open space minus bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard
>> units in bathrooms.
 
 I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either
>> propane or natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a
>> couple of heat pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Ignorance is bliss (smug).

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> With all those flaws how can a driver be regarded as "smug"?
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:54 AM Jim Cathey 
> wrote:
>
> > > I figure if something looks to[o] good to be true there has to be a
> > catch.
> > > So far nobody that owns a Tesla will admit the catch to me.
> >
> >
> > They're quite expensive.  They're a video game with four wheels.  You
> have
> > to do meticulous trip planning if you're doing more than routine
> commuting.
> > They can and do catch fire.  If you park too close to a radio/TV
> > transmitter
> > you can't unlock them.
> >
> > Other than that they're great.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I can sell mine for this much

2022-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Where's the trunk photo showing the badge?  I had a W108 280SE in the same
Arabian Gray/parchment color combo.

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Re: [MBZ] 4spd manual. China Blue 1981 Mercedes Benz 240D - $10, 000 (Charlotte)

2022-01-26 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I would think springs. Springs support the car. Shocks dampen movement.

Allan

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> Is that worn springs or shocks?
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 10:39 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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>
>> It’s got a saggy ass too.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> >
>> > I've been snorting China White
>> >
>> >
>> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-1981-mercedes-benz-240d/7437547720.html
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Re: [MBZ] 4spd manual. China Blue 1981 Mercedes Benz 240D - $10, 000 (Charlotte)

2022-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Is that worn springs or shocks?

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> It’s got a saggy ass too.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> >
> > I've been snorting China White
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
With all those flaws how can a driver be regarded as "smug"?

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:54 AM Jim Cathey  wrote:

> > I figure if something looks to[o] good to be true there has to be a
> catch.
> > So far nobody that owns a Tesla will admit the catch to me.
>
>
> They're quite expensive.  They're a video game with four wheels.  You have
> to do meticulous trip planning if you're doing more than routine commuting.
> They can and do catch fire.  If you park too close to a radio/TV
> transmitter
> you can't unlock them.
>
> Other than that they're great.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] Gentlemen's color-combination: 1979 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class Roadster 2D, $45, 000 (280SL)

2022-01-26 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I think a darker gray, closer to charcoal, would look far better with the blue 
interior. That car looks like it's in primer.

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> No, no - "understated" or "subtle", which is what you want if you are 
> the sort of old money type who would enjoy driving that to the club.
>
> On the plus side, is that I have been told that grey is the easiest 
> colour to match when touching up paint.
>
> Randy
>
>
> On 26/01/2022 10:44 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> STUNNINGly drab
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 11:02 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Looks really nice, outrageous price for a 280
>>>
>>> exterior in STUNNING DB 740 Pastel-Grey, Blue LEATHER interior seats.
>>> New Blue velour carpets including the trunk ones.
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/446983907163846
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I figure if something looks to[o] good to be true there has to be a catch.
> So far nobody that owns a Tesla will admit the catch to me.


They're quite expensive.  They're a video game with four wheels.  You have
to do meticulous trip planning if you're doing more than routine commuting.
They can and do catch fire.  If you park too close to a radio/TV transmitter
you can't unlock them.

Other than that they're great.

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Re: [MBZ] Gentlemen's color-combination: 1979 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class Roadster 2D, $45, 000 (280SL)

2022-01-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
No, no - "understated" or "subtle", which is what you want if you are 
the sort of old money type who would enjoy driving that to the club.


On the plus side, is that I have been told that grey is the easiest 
colour to match when touching up paint.


Randy


On 26/01/2022 10:44 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

STUNNINGly drab

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 11:02 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Looks really nice, outrageous price for a 280

exterior in STUNNING DB 740 Pastel-Grey, Blue LEATHER interior seats.
New Blue velour carpets including the trunk ones.

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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 11:03 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

> I think that fuel-based heat is driven towards parity with electricity by 
> market
> factors (think greedy investor types), and no longer is the cheapest way to 
> heat

That is true, the costs are closer than they used to be. Especially with 
natural gas now more commonly used to generate electricity, where that used to 
be almost exclusively coal (at least around here). Demand for gas is higher, so 
it costs more.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] Gentlemen's color-combination: 1979 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class Roadster 2D, $45, 000 (280SL)

2022-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Very tidy.  Worth about $12k IMO.

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> STUNNINGly drab
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 11:02 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > Looks really nice, outrageous price for a 280
> >
> > exterior in STUNNING DB 740 Pastel-Grey, Blue LEATHER interior seats.
> > New Blue velour carpets including the trunk ones.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Where do you get that from Curt??  I'm on the waiting list for the Fisker
Ocean and am the very opposite of smug.

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> The biggest problem that electric cars have is the smugness. Many people
> are super turned off by it.
> OTOH there are a whole bunch of people who have electric cars ONLY because
> of the smug factor...
>
> I figure if something looks to good to be true there has to be a catch. So
> far nobody that owns a Tesla will admit the catch to me.
>
> -Curt
>
>
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> Don't get me wrong, I think an electric panel on top of a car is a good
> idea.
> It just shouldn't enable any smugness factor.  But it can 'pay' for
> ventilation
> while parked, can counter the car's parasitic loads, and perhaps avoid the
> battery degradation that occurs when they're left too far discharged?
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Re: [MBZ] Gentlemen's color-combination: 1979 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class Roadster 2D, $45, 000 (280SL)

2022-01-26 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
STUNNINGly drab

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> Looks really nice, outrageous price for a 280
>
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> New Blue velour carpets including the trunk ones.
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The biggest problem that electric cars have is the smugness. Many people are 
super turned off by it.
OTOH there are a whole bunch of people who have electric cars ONLY because of 
the smug factor...

I figure if something looks to good to be true there has to be a catch. So far 
nobody that owns a Tesla will admit the catch to me.

-Curt


 On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 11:33:53 AM EST, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 wrote: 

Don't get me wrong, I think an electric panel on top of a car is a good idea.
It just shouldn't enable any smugness factor.  But it can 'pay' for ventilation
while parked, can counter the car's parasitic loads, and perhaps avoid the
battery degradation that occurs when they're left too far discharged?


-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I like the idea of ventilation or possibly even cooling a parked vehicle.

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> Don't get me wrong, I think an electric panel on top of a car is a good
> idea.
> It just shouldn't enable any smugness factor.  But it can 'pay' for
> ventilation
> while parked, can counter the car's parasitic loads, and perhaps avoid the
> battery degradation that occurs when they're left too far discharged?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Don't get me wrong, I think an electric panel on top of a car is a good idea.
It just shouldn't enable any smugness factor.  But it can 'pay' for ventilation
while parked, can counter the car's parasitic loads, and perhaps avoid the
battery degradation that occurs when they're left too far discharged?

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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
There was an Apple II game back in the '80s where you raced an electric car. 
You had to balance how fast you were trying to go vs how much sun there was. I 
think it was based on (maybe in conjunction with) some GM electric race car 
thing.

Oh yeah, just as I remembered it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvLVNeHEAhE

-Curt


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 wrote: 

> If you've got room up there for 500W of panels, you could go 5 mph or maybe 
> even more in full sunlight.

I think _Kudzu_ can move faster (driven by only sunlight) than a paneled 
electric car.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-26 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> If you've got room up there for 500W of panels, you could go 5 mph or maybe 
> even more in full sunlight.

I think _Kudzu_ can move faster (driven by only sunlight) than a paneled 
electric car.

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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in midcoast 
> Maine.

The 'best' choice involves many factors.  There is the capital cost up front, 
the expected
operating cost per hour, and the amount of time the capital investment will 
last.  (I.e. how
long until you have to replace it all and start over.)  Plus, maintenance needs.

Heat pumps give you a 3x (?) multiplier per BTU put in via electricity.  But, 
they're more
money and don't last forever.  Electric heat is cheap up front and lasts 
basically forever,
but has probably the highest operating costs.  OTOH if infrequently used it 
could possibly be
the best value.  I think that fuel-based heat is driven towards parity with 
electricity by market
factors (think greedy investor types), and no longer is the cheapest way to 
heat.

I am told that radiant floor heat gives the most comfort per BTU, so is that a 
possibility?
(I laid the pipes in my garage when it was built, as that was cheap to DIY, but 
have taken
it no further than that.)  DO you need AC and/or dehumidification in any 
significant amount?

You need to do the math, for YOU.

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[MBZ] Gentlemen's color-combination: 1979 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class Roadster 2D, $45, 000 (280SL)

2022-01-26 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Looks really nice, outrageous price for a 280

exterior in STUNNING DB 740 Pastel-Grey, Blue LEATHER interior seats. 
New Blue velour carpets including the trunk ones.


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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
The mini-split I had put in the casita, which is on the back of the garage, is 
24,000 BTU, much larger than required (16-18,000 was originally specified.) I 
was hoping it was one that could run multiple head units, as I would have put 
one in the garage, but it was a single system only. The contractor that did the 
work had the 24,000 unit on the shelf from a job that got cancelled so they 
sold it to me for the same price as they owed me a favor for getting them some 
referrals. It was $3400 installed complete, which I thought was a pretty good 
deal. I know I could have done it myself, but I didn’t have the time and I 
wouldn’t have gotten the 10 year warranty, either.

I saw this 75,000 BTU Reznor heater on FB marketplace a couple weeks ago. Since 
I wasn’t out there at the time I let it go, but I noticed it was still for sale 
the other day, so I reached out to the seller and told them if they would take 
$700 I would pick it up on Saturday when I return to Flagstaff. I have to pick 
it up, but once that’s done I’ll start getting serious about doing the ceiling 
and getting the insulation guys over to give me a quote. I’ll hang the heater 
and do the electrical, I probably need to find a plumber to do the gas line.

-D

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a minisplit in my garage and find it to be great solution.  The
> initial goal was heat, but the AC is a real luxury.  The dehumidifying
> feature is also really useful in early spring
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 10:43 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes but is a heat pump or mini split suitable for my specific garage
>> scenario?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am pretty much a heat pump believer. Even during the coldest months
>> with some days it running almost non stop for a day at a time our highest
>> electric bill is maybe $250. With natural gas the gas bill would probably
>> be close to that plus another $100-$150 electric bill.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 The nice thing about heat pumps is you essentially get AC "for free".
>> Where you are they should be good for all but the coldest nights. Since
>> you're talking electric heat in the bathrooms anyway (I'd say drain one of
>> them for the winter) then let the place go cold on those really cold nights
>> to save $$.
 
 Alternately get the wells sunk to do a geothermal heat pump and use
>> them for both the house and garage but that's a big  upfront cost...
 
 -Curt
 
 
 On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 09:52:34 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
 
 
 I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in
>> midcoast Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some
>> are 2x6 and they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling
>> is 26 feet for most of it with exception of a small area that has lower
>> ceiling. There will be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in
>> partial loft. Loft will be open to the rest of the garage so essentially
>> one big open space minus bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard
>> units in bathrooms.
 
 I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either
>> propane or natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a
>> couple of heat pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Last week I noticed one of my m-s units was cycling a lot, it was like 
34F and damp/wet with rain and crap.  I looked at the condenser and 
about half the fins were frozen up and the cycling was to thaw off the 
frost.  I had not noticed that before, I think it was due to the 
dampness.  This unit has 2 head units on it and it was having trouble 
keeping the rooms warm which was annoying.  i should probably get it 
checked to make sure it is topped up with refrigerant and running 
properly.  I have another unit with 4 head units that serves my new 
addition (timber frame with SIPs and double pane glass, well-insulated), 
one is in the kitchen (12k BTU) which has about a 20ft open ceiling to a 
loft above.  I put another unit (12k) up in the loft but have not needed 
to run it as the one below in the kitchen space actually warms that 
whole space, surprisingly.  I have a fan hanging from the roof peak that 
I run to keep the air circulated and it is warm down below.  It was not 
cycling.  That unit serves 2 heads (9k each) in the MBR and adjacent 
bath, I actually only run the unit in the bath and the bedroom stays 
mostly warm (cool for sleeping is not bad).


I put another set (one condenser, 2 head units) in for 2 other bedrooms 
(one for each above/below) and usually just keep those rooms closed off 
and don't run them, but when it was down around freezing I ran the 
downstairs for a coupla days to help out the system that was having 
trouble.  House was OK with those running.


I have 3 separate units in the house now to replace an ancient forced 
air central heat pump/AC unit.  I like that I can pick and choose which 
to run and they are a lot more efficient than the single central unit 
that served (and not well) the old part of the house with ducts and 
baseboard vents.


--FT

On 1/26/22 10:35 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

I would add that if you’re looking at single unit heat pumps, much like would 
be used in a house, it’s going to be pricey and may not work efficiently down 
to the lowest temperatures. The mini-splits are far more efficient at low 
temperatures, like one I just had put in the casita (360 SF) at the Flagstaff 
house - it is over 80% efficient at -4F. The large household units aren’t 
nearly as efficient, or so I found, when it comes to low temps. And the ones 
that are can be quite pricey.

I wonder if it would make sense to do a mini-split with multiple (indoor) 
units? Floyd has some experience here, maybe he’ll chime in.

-D


On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
wrote:

Around here if utility natural gas is available that is the cheapest way to go. 
Not sure about relative rates where you are.

If you need to have propane trucked in, that is more expensive, but still 
cheaper than electric baseboard / resistance heat, here.

I've never had heat pump or geothermal heat so can't really comment on those 
options.




On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 9:54 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

Forgot to mention 5 garage doors all insulated. All windows double pane.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:52 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:

I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in midcoast 
Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some are 2x6 and 
they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling is 26 feet for 
most of it with exception of a small area that has lower ceiling. There will be 
two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in partial loft. Loft will be open 
to the rest of the garage so essentially one big open space minus bathrooms. 
Thinking of small electric baseboard units in bathrooms.

I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane or 
natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of heat 
pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?

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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm planning on building a shop in the barn at the new northern estate. I'm 
going to close off one bay in the barn, insulate that bay and add a heat pump. 
It won't do the job when it's REALLY cold out but those are the kind of days 
I'll stay inside by the fire anyway...

-Curt

On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 10:52:07 AM EST, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I have a minisplit in my garage and find it to be great solution.  The
initial goal was heat, but the AC is a real luxury.  The dehumidifying
feature is also really useful in early spring

Jaime


On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 10:43 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes but is a heat pump or mini split suitable for my specific garage
> scenario?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am pretty much a heat pump believer. Even during the coldest months
> with some days it running almost non stop for a day at a time our highest
> electric bill is maybe $250. With natural gas the gas bill would probably
> be close to that plus another $100-$150 electric bill.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The nice thing about heat pumps is you essentially get AC "for free".
> Where you are they should be good for all but the coldest nights. Since
> you're talking electric heat in the bathrooms anyway (I'd say drain one of
> them for the winter) then let the place go cold on those really cold nights
> to save $$.
> >>
> >> Alternately get the wells sunk to do a geothermal heat pump and use
> them for both the house and garage but that's a big  upfront cost...
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 09:52:34 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in
> midcoast Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some
> are 2x6 and they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling
> is 26 feet for most of it with exception of a small area that has lower
> ceiling. There will be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in
> partial loft. Loft will be open to the rest of the garage so essentially
> one big open space minus bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard
> units in bathrooms.
> >>
> >> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either
> propane or natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a
> couple of heat pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I have a minisplit in my garage and find it to be great solution.  The
initial goal was heat, but the AC is a real luxury.  The dehumidifying
feature is also really useful in early spring

Jaime


On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 10:43 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes but is a heat pump or mini split suitable for my specific garage
> scenario?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am pretty much a heat pump believer. Even during the coldest months
> with some days it running almost non stop for a day at a time our highest
> electric bill is maybe $250. With natural gas the gas bill would probably
> be close to that plus another $100-$150 electric bill.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The nice thing about heat pumps is you essentially get AC "for free".
> Where you are they should be good for all but the coldest nights. Since
> you're talking electric heat in the bathrooms anyway (I'd say drain one of
> them for the winter) then let the place go cold on those really cold nights
> to save $$.
> >>
> >> Alternately get the wells sunk to do a geothermal heat pump and use
> them for both the house and garage but that's a big  upfront cost...
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 09:52:34 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in
> midcoast Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some
> are 2x6 and they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling
> is 26 feet for most of it with exception of a small area that has lower
> ceiling. There will be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in
> partial loft. Loft will be open to the rest of the garage so essentially
> one big open space minus bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard
> units in bathrooms.
> >>
> >> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either
> propane or natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a
> couple of heat pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Picked up the copart ML

2022-01-26 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Remind me tonight when I’m home 

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:46 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> REMINDER
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 1/25/22 9:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> You might have to remind me tomorrow
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail via 
 Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Send me that info. I might want to do it on this 06ML500 that needs a 
>>> tranny rebuild
>>> 
>>> --FT
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>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 6:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via 
 Mercedes  wrote:
 
 I have the factory procedure and part info that is required. If you do 
 not have the right rear Sam, you have to get one then a couple of wiring 
 harnesses.
 
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>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Floyd Thursby via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:
> you can't just slap on a hitch and expect to tow with it (well, you can, 
> but the nannies will go schizo), you need the towing nanny and to get it 
> integrated into the whole car system which is doable but takes some 
> doing.  You'll have to find a junker to pull all the bits from then fool 
> around with getting it working.
> 
> I got a hitch from eTrailer (I think) or maybe got one off Amazon or eBay 
> or something cheaper than their price.  These work fine unless you can 
> find the MB version off a junker.  There is some cutting of a heat shield 
> and something else I don't recall involved, eTrailer has an install vid 
> on their website and I think the hitch had instructions with it too.
> 
> --FT
> 
>>> On 1/25/22 6:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Strapped it down to the trailer in 18 degree Nebraska temps. No telling 
>> how long it was sitting but battery had just enough charge to turn it 
>> over and it started. Runs fine. Beyond that don’t know anything yet. I 
>> do know it’s missing the right read door panel for some reason. Will 
>> need that and of course a factory hitch.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
No idea. I have 2 big overhead heaters in my shop but have never got propane 
setup and delivered. Anytime I think about it it’s when the price is high and I 
always say I will wait. Thought about a heat pump that way I could have AC but 
probably would not be worth messing with. 

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
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> 
> Yes but is a heat pump or mini split suitable for my specific garage 
> scenario?
> 
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>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I am pretty much a heat pump believer. Even during the coldest months with 
>> some days it running almost non stop for a day at a time our highest 
>> electric bill is maybe $250. With natural gas the gas bill would probably be 
>> close to that plus another $100-$150 electric bill. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The nice thing about heat pumps is you essentially get AC "for free". 
>>> Where you are they should be good for all but the coldest nights. Since 
>>> you're talking electric heat in the bathrooms anyway (I'd say drain one of 
>>> them for the winter) then let the place go cold on those really cold nights 
>>> to save $$.
>>> 
>>> Alternately get the wells sunk to do a geothermal heat pump and use them 
>>> for both the house and garage but that's a big  upfront cost...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 09:52:34 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
 Mercedes  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in 
>>> midcoast Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some 
>>> are 2x6 and they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling 
>>> is 26 feet for most of it with exception of a small area that has lower 
>>> ceiling. There will be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in 
>>> partial loft. Loft will be open to the rest of the garage so essentially 
>>> one big open space minus bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard 
>>> units in bathrooms.
>>> 
>>> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane 
>>> or natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of 
>>> heat pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I guess I could, but there are trusses, so there’s no real advantage to having 
that space open and heated. If it was open I would seriously consider it, 
especially since I could put a lift into one of the bays…

-D

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:44 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Foam the roof and leave it open?
> 
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> 
> On 1/26/22 10:32 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I bought a Reznor UDX 75,000 BTU natural gas heater for my 24’ x 30’ three 
>> car garage in Flagstaff. A local had a brand new one in the crate they 
>> bought but ended up not needing. I think it was around $1100 retail, I 
>> offered them $700 cash and they took it.
>> 
>> My exterior walls are 2x4 with roll insulation and a vapor barrier. Doors 
>> are composition and don’t seal well (I can see light around them when inside 
>> with the lights off) but I’ll be addressing that. Lastly, I’ve got to 
>> drywall the 14’ ceiling joists (ugh!) so I can put insulation up there, then 
>> it should be pretty tight. I’ve got to get a quote from my insulation guys, 
>> not sure if I’ll just do batts/roll insulation or have them do blow-in. I’m 
>> not sure it’s worth the money to do blow-in since it won’t be heated 
>> year-round.
>> 
>> Winter climate isn’t too much different from where you are other than it 
>> gets into the teens and occasionally single digits at night - but - days can 
>> easily “warm” to the 40s-50s.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in 
>>> midcoast Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some 
>>> are 2x6 and they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling 
>>> is 26 feet for most of it with exception of a small area that has lower 
>>> ceiling. There will be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in 
>>> partial loft. Loft will be open to the rest of the garage so essentially 
>>> one big open space minus bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard 
>>> units in bathrooms.
>>> 
>>> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane 
>>> or natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of 
>>> heat pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
>>> 
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[MBZ] Maybe I can sell mine for this much

2022-01-26 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Because I stumbled across the Reznor heater for cheap and I have natural gas to 
the garage. A mini-split would have been about $3k-$4k, depending on size. And 
I don’t care about AC, as a “hot” day in Flagstaff is mid-80s with 20% humidity.

-D

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Why didn’t you opt for mini splits in your garage?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:33 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I bought a Reznor UDX 75,000 BTU natural gas heater for my 24’ x 30’ three 
>> car garage in Flagstaff. A local had a brand new one in the crate they 
>> bought but ended up not needing. I think it was around $1100 retail, I 
>> offered them $700 cash and they took it.
>> 
>> My exterior walls are 2x4 with roll insulation and a vapor barrier. Doors 
>> are composition and don’t seal well (I can see light around them when inside 
>> with the lights off) but I’ll be addressing that. Lastly, I’ve got to 
>> drywall the 14’ ceiling joists (ugh!) so I can put insulation up there, then 
>> it should be pretty tight. I’ve got to get a quote from my insulation guys, 
>> not sure if I’ll just do batts/roll insulation or have them do blow-in. I’m 
>> not sure it’s worth the money to do blow-in since it won’t be heated 
>> year-round.
>> 
>> Winter climate isn’t too much different from where you are other than it 
>> gets into the teens and occasionally single digits at night - but - days can 
>> easily “warm” to the 40s-50s.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in 
>>> midcoast Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some 
>>> are 2x6 and they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling 
>>> is 26 feet for most of it with exception of a small area that has lower 
>>> ceiling. There will be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in 
>>> partial loft. Loft will be open to the rest of the garage so essentially 
>>> one big open space minus bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard 
>>> units in bathrooms.
>>> 
>>> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane 
>>> or natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of 
>>> heat pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Picked up the copart ML

2022-01-26 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

REMINDER

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On 1/25/22 9:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

You might have to remind me tomorrow

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On Jan 25, 2022, at 8:03 PM, Buggered Benzmail via 
Mercedes  wrote:

Send me that info. I might want to do it on this 06ML500 that needs a tranny 
rebuild

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On Jan 25, 2022, at 6:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I have the factory procedure and part info that is required. If you do not 
have the right rear Sam, you have to get one then a couple of wiring harnesses.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

you can't just slap on a hitch and expect to tow with it (well, you can, but 
the nannies will go schizo), you need the towing nanny and to get it integrated 
into the whole car system which is doable but takes some doing.  You'll have to 
find a junker to pull all the bits from then fool around with getting it 
working.

I got a hitch from eTrailer (I think) or maybe got one off Amazon or eBay or 
something cheaper than their price.  These work fine unless you can find the MB 
version off a junker.  There is some cutting of a heat shield and something 
else I don't recall involved, eTrailer has an install vid on their website and 
I think the hitch had instructions with it too.

--FT


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Strapped it down to the trailer in 18 degree Nebraska temps. No telling how 
long it was sitting but battery had just enough charge to turn it over and it 
started. Runs fine. Beyond that don’t know anything yet. I do know it’s missing 
the right read door panel for some reason. Will need that and of course a 
factory hitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Foam the roof and leave it open?

--FT

On 1/26/22 10:32 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

I bought a Reznor UDX 75,000 BTU natural gas heater for my 24’ x 30’ three car 
garage in Flagstaff. A local had a brand new one in the crate they bought but 
ended up not needing. I think it was around $1100 retail, I offered them $700 
cash and they took it.

My exterior walls are 2x4 with roll insulation and a vapor barrier. Doors are 
composition and don’t seal well (I can see light around them when inside with 
the lights off) but I’ll be addressing that. Lastly, I’ve got to drywall the 
14’ ceiling joists (ugh!) so I can put insulation up there, then it should be 
pretty tight. I’ve got to get a quote from my insulation guys, not sure if I’ll 
just do batts/roll insulation or have them do blow-in. I’m not sure it’s worth 
the money to do blow-in since it won’t be heated year-round.

Winter climate isn’t too much different from where you are other than it gets 
into the teens and occasionally single digits at night - but - days can easily 
“warm” to the 40s-50s.

-D


On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via 
Mercedes  wrote:

I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in midcoast 
Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some are 2x6 and 
they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling is 26 feet for 
most of it with exception of a small area that has lower ceiling. There will be 
two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in partial loft. Loft will be open 
to the rest of the garage so essentially one big open space minus bathrooms. 
Thinking of small electric baseboard units in bathrooms.

I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane or 
natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of heat 
pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?

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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Why didn’t you opt for mini splits in your garage?

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:33 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I bought a Reznor UDX 75,000 BTU natural gas heater for my 24’ x 30’ three 
> car garage in Flagstaff. A local had a brand new one in the crate they bought 
> but ended up not needing. I think it was around $1100 retail, I offered them 
> $700 cash and they took it.
> 
> My exterior walls are 2x4 with roll insulation and a vapor barrier. Doors are 
> composition and don’t seal well (I can see light around them when inside with 
> the lights off) but I’ll be addressing that. Lastly, I’ve got to drywall the 
> 14’ ceiling joists (ugh!) so I can put insulation up there, then it should be 
> pretty tight. I’ve got to get a quote from my insulation guys, not sure if 
> I’ll just do batts/roll insulation or have them do blow-in. I’m not sure it’s 
> worth the money to do blow-in since it won’t be heated year-round.
> 
> Winter climate isn’t too much different from where you are other than it gets 
> into the teens and occasionally single digits at night - but - days can 
> easily “warm” to the 40s-50s.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in midcoast 
>> Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some are 2x6 
>> and they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling is 26 feet 
>> for most of it with exception of a small area that has lower ceiling. There 
>> will be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in partial loft. Loft 
>> will be open to the rest of the garage so essentially one big open space 
>> minus bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard units in bathrooms.
>> 
>> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane 
>> or natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of 
>> heat pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Yes but is a heat pump or mini split suitable for my specific garage scenario?

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am pretty much a heat pump believer. Even during the coldest months with 
> some days it running almost non stop for a day at a time our highest electric 
> bill is maybe $250. With natural gas the gas bill would probably be close to 
> that plus another $100-$150 electric bill. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The nice thing about heat pumps is you essentially get AC "for free". Where 
>> you are they should be good for all but the coldest nights. Since you're 
>> talking electric heat in the bathrooms anyway (I'd say drain one of them for 
>> the winter) then let the place go cold on those really cold nights to save 
>> $$.
>> 
>> Alternately get the wells sunk to do a geothermal heat pump and use them for 
>> both the house and garage but that's a big  upfront cost...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 09:52:34 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in midcoast 
>> Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some are 2x6 
>> and they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling is 26 feet 
>> for most of it with exception of a small area that has lower ceiling. There 
>> will be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in partial loft. Loft 
>> will be open to the rest of the garage so essentially one big open space 
>> minus bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard units in bathrooms.
>> 
>> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane 
>> or natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of 
>> heat pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 4spd manual. China Blue 1981 Mercedes Benz 240D - $10, 000 (Charlotte)

2022-01-26 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It’s got a saggy ass too. 

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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I am pretty much a heat pump believer. Even during the coldest months with some 
days it running almost non stop for a day at a time our highest electric bill 
is maybe $250. With natural gas the gas bill would probably be close to that 
plus another $100-$150 electric bill. 

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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> 
> The nice thing about heat pumps is you essentially get AC "for free". Where 
> you are they should be good for all but the coldest nights. Since you're 
> talking electric heat in the bathrooms anyway (I'd say drain one of them for 
> the winter) then let the place go cold on those really cold nights to save $$.
> 
> Alternately get the wells sunk to do a geothermal heat pump and use them for 
> both the house and garage but that's a big  upfront cost...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 09:52:34 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
> 
> 
> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in midcoast 
> Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some are 2x6 and 
> they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling is 26 feet for 
> most of it with exception of a small area that has lower ceiling. There will 
> be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in partial loft. Loft will be 
> open to the rest of the garage so essentially one big open space minus 
> bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard units in bathrooms.
> 
> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane or 
> natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of heat 
> pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I would add that if you’re looking at single unit heat pumps, much like would 
be used in a house, it’s going to be pricey and may not work efficiently down 
to the lowest temperatures. The mini-splits are far more efficient at low 
temperatures, like one I just had put in the casita (360 SF) at the Flagstaff 
house - it is over 80% efficient at -4F. The large household units aren’t 
nearly as efficient, or so I found, when it comes to low temps. And the ones 
that are can be quite pricey.

I wonder if it would make sense to do a mini-split with multiple (indoor) 
units? Floyd has some experience here, maybe he’ll chime in.

-D

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Around here if utility natural gas is available that is the cheapest way to 
> go. Not sure about relative rates where you are.
> 
> If you need to have propane trucked in, that is more expensive, but still 
> cheaper than electric baseboard / resistance heat, here.
> 
> I've never had heat pump or geothermal heat so can't really comment on those 
> options.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 9:54 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> Forgot to mention 5 garage doors all insulated. All windows double pane.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:52 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in 
>>> midcoast Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some 
>>> are 2x6 and they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling 
>>> is 26 feet for most of it with exception of a small area that has lower 
>>> ceiling. There will be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in 
>>> partial loft. Loft will be open to the rest of the garage so essentially 
>>> one big open space minus bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard 
>>> units in bathrooms.
>>> 
>>> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane 
>>> or natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of 
>>> heat pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I bought a Reznor UDX 75,000 BTU natural gas heater for my 24’ x 30’ three car 
garage in Flagstaff. A local had a brand new one in the crate they bought but 
ended up not needing. I think it was around $1100 retail, I offered them $700 
cash and they took it.

My exterior walls are 2x4 with roll insulation and a vapor barrier. Doors are 
composition and don’t seal well (I can see light around them when inside with 
the lights off) but I’ll be addressing that. Lastly, I’ve got to drywall the 
14’ ceiling joists (ugh!) so I can put insulation up there, then it should be 
pretty tight. I’ve got to get a quote from my insulation guys, not sure if I’ll 
just do batts/roll insulation or have them do blow-in. I’m not sure it’s worth 
the money to do blow-in since it won’t be heated year-round.

Winter climate isn’t too much different from where you are other than it gets 
into the teens and occasionally single digits at night - but - days can easily 
“warm” to the 40s-50s.

-D

> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in midcoast 
> Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some are 2x6 and 
> they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling is 26 feet for 
> most of it with exception of a small area that has lower ceiling. There will 
> be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in partial loft. Loft will be 
> open to the rest of the garage so essentially one big open space minus 
> bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard units in bathrooms.
> 
> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane or 
> natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of heat 
> pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 4spd manual. China Blue 1981 Mercedes Benz 240D - $10, 000 (Charlotte)

2022-01-26 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Looks fairly nice and sounds reasonably well cared for. Manual trans would be 
worth extra (at least to me), but $10K is a fantasy.

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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Around here if utility natural gas is available that is the cheapest way to go. 
Not sure about relative rates where you are.

If you need to have propane trucked in, that is more expensive, but still 
cheaper than electric baseboard / resistance heat, here.

I've never had heat pump or geothermal heat so can't really comment on those 
options.




On Wed, Jan 26, 2022, at 9:54 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> Forgot to mention 5 garage doors all insulated. All windows double pane.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:52 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>> 
>> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in 
>> midcoast Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some 
>> are 2x6 and they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling is 
>> 26 feet for most of it with exception of a small area that has lower 
>> ceiling. There will be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in partial 
>> loft. Loft will be open to the rest of the garage so essentially one big 
>> open space minus bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard units in 
>> bathrooms.
>> 
>> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane 
>> or natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of 
>> heat pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] 4spd manual. China Blue 1981 Mercedes Benz 240D - $10, 000 (Charlotte)

2022-01-26 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

I've been snorting China White

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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The nice thing about heat pumps is you essentially get AC "for free". Where you 
are they should be good for all but the coldest nights. Since you're talking 
electric heat in the bathrooms anyway (I'd say drain one of them for the 
winter) then let the place go cold on those really cold nights to save $$.

Alternately get the wells sunk to do a geothermal heat pump and use them for 
both the house and garage but that's a big  upfront cost...

-Curt


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 wrote: 


I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in midcoast 
Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some are 2x6 and 
they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling is 26 feet for 
most of it with exception of a small area that has lower ceiling. There will be 
two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in partial loft. Loft will be open 
to the rest of the garage so essentially one big open space minus bathrooms. 
Thinking of small electric baseboard units in bathrooms.

I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane or 
natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of heat 
pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?

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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Forgot to mention 5 garage doors all insulated. All windows double pane.

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:52 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in midcoast 
> Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some are 2x6 and 
> they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling is 26 feet for 
> most of it with exception of a small area that has lower ceiling. There will 
> be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in partial loft. Loft will be 
> open to the rest of the garage so essentially one big open space minus 
> bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard units in bathrooms.
> 
> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane or 
> natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of heat 
> pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 722.9 4matic transfer case rebuild surprisingly easy

2022-01-26 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
There is a supplier called Transtar I think that sells all the rebuild 
kits with the clutches and seals and such and rebuild shops use them (I 
think this guy mentioned them in some vid I watched), and of course 
there are kits all over on eBay which are probably OK if you get 
something with a brand name but who knows WTF might show up.  There are 
also other companies that will sell them off their websites and I would 
probably trust getting those directly.  I don't know that MB sell 
rebuild kits but maybe, I've never seen any offered.


Raybestos have 722.9 kits and there are other vendors that sell

https://www.raybestospowertrain.com/friction-clutch-packs/rgpz-025

And there is this shop but who knows the source 
https://www.oregonperformancetransmission.com/product/OPT-722-9-RB.html


--FT

On 1/25/22 6:39 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

I’ve done it, but again, it was on domestic boxes (PowerGlide, THMs, C4s, etc.) 
and some years ago, but in all honesty it’s not that difficult if you’ve got a 
clean place to work and some good quality snap ring pliers and compressed air. 
Heck, with the resources on the Interwebs these days it’s got to be a heck of a 
lot easier. And yes, there are a lot of third party places selling parts for 
them, although I would make sure I get stuff like seals from Mercedes or a 
reputable supplier.

-D


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wrote:

I was thinking he might be a resource for your car.  Auto transmissions have 
always been kinda voodoo for me but watching his vids show they are not 
particularly complicated, and parts seem to be readily available, mostly

--FT

On 1/25/22 5:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah I like his videos. He has a couple on the Honda CRV/Element transmissions 
that gave me the idea that I might be able to rebuild mine.


On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

This guy has a transmission shop and has posted some good videos of
transmission repairs including 722.9s.  This one is of the transfer case
that is part of the whole transmissions, it looked surprisingly easy to
do the repair on a worn front output shaft. The 722.9 vids show it is
not particularly complicated to repair the clutches and such, the
biggest problem would be getting it out and back in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id99fyXX-Hk

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[MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-26 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in midcoast 
Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some are 2x6 and 
they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling is 26 feet for 
most of it with exception of a small area that has lower ceiling. There will be 
two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in partial loft. Loft will be open 
to the rest of the garage so essentially one big open space minus bathrooms. 
Thinking of small electric baseboard units in bathrooms.

I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane or 
natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of heat 
pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?

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