date:20220224

Money pit.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 8:15 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] FB 211 group genius

2022-02-24 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes

Hmm. Hard to say, I might have to try that. Although I've seen some real 
abominations on there and people either keep their opinions in check or just 
move along to the next post.

-D

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Mercedes 
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 9:22 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] FB 211 group genius

Even if you photoshop a hood stack on a 944 turbo and post it up?

On 2022-02-24 11:31, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Classic FB car group behavior.
>
> I will say that in my on-again/off-again 944 search, I found a 944
> group that is super nice, everyone gets along, and no one is a
> pretentious asshat or gets their shorts in a knot over outrageous
> modifications (although you rarely see any.)

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Re: [MBZ] FB 211 group genius

2022-02-24 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes


Even if you photoshop a hood stack on a 944 turbo and post it up?

On 2022-02-24 11:31, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Classic FB car group behavior.

I will say that in my on-again/off-again 944 search, I found a 944
group that is super nice, everyone gets along, and no one is a
pretentious asshat or gets their shorts in a knot over outrageous
modifications (although you rarely see any.)


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[MBZ] Project For Someone

2022-02-24 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes



https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1971-Mercedes-Benz-/373946793696

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Re: [MBZ] It’s been about 16 all week in KC….

W210

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> On Feb 24, 2022, at 2:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Which vehicle?
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 1:52 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> And my duovalve has decided to crap out it appears. Arctic cold on the 
>> right, left still working fortunately but with full cold it’s not that warm 
>> in the car. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] It’s been about 16 all week in KC….

Which vehicle?

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> And my duovalve has decided to crap out it appears. Arctic cold on the
> right, left still working fortunately but with full cold it’s not that warm
> in the car.
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[MBZ] Better go fill up your rides today

Fun times ahead! [Not for political attribution or discussion, just
putting it out there]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-attack-on-ukraine-sends-oil-prices-above-100-a-barrel-for-first-time-since-2014-crash-11645681439

A global oil benchmark surged above $100 a barrel for the first time
since 2014, and prices for natural gas

,
metals and grains, key feedstocks for the global economy, vaulted
higher after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine

threatened to disrupt resource exports from the region.

The most-widely held futures for Brent crude, which call for
delivery of oil in May, jumped 7% to $101.64 a barrel. Natural-gas
prices in Europe, which depends on Russia for supplies of oil and
gas, leapt by 40%.

Rising energy prices stand to prolong the inflationary pressures
that are pushing the Federal Reserve and other central banks to
raise interest rates and wind down easy monetary policies. In
particular, rising global crude markets have boosted gasoline prices
in the U.S., contributing to inflation running there at its fastest
pace in 40 years

.
On average, regular gasoline cost about $3.54 a gallon Thursday,
according to AAA, up from $2.66 a gallon a year ago.

There was no immediate interruption to the flow of crude oil,
refined petroleum products and natural gas to global markets,
analysts, traders and Western officials said. The company that runs
Ukraine’s gas pipeline, which funnels Russian gas to Western Europe,
said the network was running smoothly midmorning local time.

However, traders and officials were bracing for disruption to energy
exports. Stronger sanctions on Russia’s financial system

,
promised by the West, could disrupt commodities trading.

more...

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Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

2022-02-24 Thread Robert Massmann via Mercedes

Andrew,

It will be interesting to see what they would say. My ML350 BT is covered by an 
extended warranty due pollution control settlement agreed upon by the EPA and 
Justice Dept . Any Bluetec diesel from 2009-2016 (OM 642 & OM 651) models are 
covered by the extended warranty, link to the warranty document is below. My ML 
350 had the pollution control updates completed just last December. So all the 
pollution control equipment will be covered for (4) years or 48,000 miles, 
whichever occurs first. It was interesting, I went back and reviewed the CARFAX 
report and there was now mention of the pollution control update when it was 
serviced at a Mercedes dealer in Kentucky just before it was put up for sale by 
Jeff Wyler outside Cincinnati.

It should be interesting to see, if I can get reimbursed for the CCV valve ( 
$160 item ) that I am replacing during my oil cooler leak fix, it is the last 
item in the list that is covered by the extended warranty. 

warranty-extension-covered-components.pdf (mbusa.com)

Bob Massmann

2012 ML350 BT

From: Andrew Strasfogel 
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2022 12:20 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Robert Massmann 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

Might want to share this info with MBNA.

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 12:08 PM Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:

  Photos of the soot that was collected from my 2012 ML. I would guess that 
  the crankcase vent was not performing very well making the soot very sticky. 
  First photo is what was collected from the left intake manifold, air/EGR 
  mixer box after throttle body, and then the right intake manifold. Just for 
  grins I combined and weighted the material, 1.5 oz short of a full lb. I 
  will be replacing the PVC assembly when I start putting things back 
  together.

  Regards,

  Bob Massmann
  2012 ML350 BT

  -Original Message- 
  From: Robert Massmann via Mercedes
  Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 1:03 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Cc: rmassm...@embarqmail.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

  Here are more photos of repair progress. I am currently in the cleaning
  process oil and soot buildup in the air intakes and mixer assembly after the
  intercooler. This is a very messy part of the job!

  Bob Massmann
  2012 ML 350 BT

  -Original Message- 
  From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes
  Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 3:49 PM
  To: Okie Benz
  Cc: dan penoff.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )

  Makes me glad I have older, simpler cars.

  -D

  > On Feb 16, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes
  >  wrote:
  >
  > This of the engine bay of my ML. Lots of stuff. Things that need to be
  > removed to get at the buried oil cooler.
  >
  > 1) left and right air filters
  > 2) engine bay shielding
  > 3) intake plenum with mass flow sensors
  > 4) tube from turbo to intercooler
  > 5) air intake mixing chamber assembly
  > 6) fuel filter
  > 7) fuel interconnection tube
  > 8) turbo
  > 9) Turbo rizer
  > 10) EGR flap servo
  > 11) Right intake manifold
  > 12) left intake manifold ( I was thinking of trying to leave it alone, but
  > it may need to be cleaned as well )
  >
  > With all that the oil cooler should be accessible?
  >
  > Not sure if I missed anything. I am just on step 8 currently, I have one
  > more screw to remove.
  >
  > -Original Message- From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
  > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 4:09 PM
  > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  > Cc: Floyd Thursby
  > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Cooler Leak Repair ( 2012 ML350 Bluetec )
  >
  > My $500 99E300 had a completely buggered up intake manifold and jammed
  > EGR, ran like sh*t.  An afternoon of cleaning got it running great.  Was
  > a fairly easy job on that car though.
  >
  > --FT
  >
  > On 2/15/22 2:46 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
  >> More an effect of emissions controls. In particular EGR. EGR reduces NOX
  >> emissions in diesels, but it makes a mess of the intake manifold. In
  >> manifolds with movable flaps, things get "interesting".
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[MBZ] It’s been about 16 all week in KC….

And my duovalve has decided to crap out it appears. Arctic cold on the right, 
left still working fortunately but with full cold it’s not that warm in the 
car. 

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Re: [MBZ] FB 211 group genius

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc_f-0DCGI0

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 1:04 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sounds exactly like that.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 24, 2022, at 11:32 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > You mean like the Bizarro World cast of Seinfeld characters?
> >
> >> On Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 11:32 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Classic FB car group behavior.
> >>
> >> I will say that in my on-again/off-again 944 search, I found a 944 group
> >> that is super nice, everyone gets along, and no one is a pretentious
> asshat
> >> or gets their shorts in a knot over outrageous modifications (although
> you
> >> rarely see any.)
> >>
> >> It’s quite refreshing.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Feb 24, 2022, at 6:32 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Nope, tried that. They all thought they knew everything already, or
> >> only believe what the supposed “expert” says who is also a kid and knows
> >> nothing.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Feb 24, 2022, at 7:20 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  All these poor souls need is a mentor…someone it teach them and guide
> >> them. Perhaps you should step up and be that savior.
>  (Where is the damn sarcasm fairy emoji??)
> 
>  AZBob
> 
>  Sent from my iPad
> 
> >> On Feb 24, 2022, at 6:10 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > “So my 2004 Benz e500 doesn’t wanna move after I changed trans fluid
> >> I went into gears p R D a few times it didn’t work so I added a lil
> more
> >> now car smoke from tail pipe on start up I need help I don’t wanna sell
> my
> >> car 臘‍♂️“
> >
> >
> > Apparently drained (some) trans fluid then poured trans fluid into
> >> engine dipstick tube (and I’m not sure this car has an oil dipstick,
> mine
> >> doesn’t???). But he’s taking the car to the shop to get the conductor
> plate
> >> dealt with. 722.9 trans has no fill/dipstick tube.  Ugh.
> >
> > Oh my…
> >
> > —FT
> >
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Re: [MBZ] FB 211 group genius

Sounds exactly like that. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 24, 2022, at 11:32 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You mean like the Bizarro World cast of Seinfeld characters?
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 11:32 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Classic FB car group behavior.
>> 
>> I will say that in my on-again/off-again 944 search, I found a 944 group
>> that is super nice, everyone gets along, and no one is a pretentious asshat
>> or gets their shorts in a knot over outrageous modifications (although you
>> rarely see any.)
>> 
>> It’s quite refreshing.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Feb 24, 2022, at 6:32 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nope, tried that. They all thought they knew everything already, or
>> only believe what the supposed “expert” says who is also a kid and knows
>> nothing.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 24, 2022, at 7:20 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 All these poor souls need is a mentor…someone it teach them and guide
>> them. Perhaps you should step up and be that savior.
 (Where is the damn sarcasm fairy emoji??)
 
 AZBob
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
>> On Feb 24, 2022, at 6:10 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> “So my 2004 Benz e500 doesn’t wanna move after I changed trans fluid
>> I went into gears p R D a few times it didn’t work so I added a lil more
>> now car smoke from tail pipe on start up I need help I don’t wanna sell my
>> car 臘‍♂️“
> 
> 
> Apparently drained (some) trans fluid then poured trans fluid into
>> engine dipstick tube (and I’m not sure this car has an oil dipstick, mine
>> doesn’t???). But he’s taking the car to the shop to get the conductor plate
>> dealt with. 722.9 trans has no fill/dipstick tube.  Ugh.
> 
> Oh my…
> 
> —FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] FB 211 group genius

You mean like the Bizarro World cast of Seinfeld characters?

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 11:32 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Classic FB car group behavior.
>
> I will say that in my on-again/off-again 944 search, I found a 944 group
> that is super nice, everyone gets along, and no one is a pretentious asshat
> or gets their shorts in a knot over outrageous modifications (although you
> rarely see any.)
>
> It’s quite refreshing.
>
> -D
>
> > On Feb 24, 2022, at 6:32 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Nope, tried that. They all thought they knew everything already, or
> only believe what the supposed “expert” says who is also a kid and knows
> nothing.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Feb 24, 2022, at 7:20 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> All these poor souls need is a mentor…someone it teach them and guide
> them. Perhaps you should step up and be that savior.
> >> (Where is the damn sarcasm fairy emoji??)
> >>
> >> AZBob
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
>  On Feb 24, 2022, at 6:10 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> “So my 2004 Benz e500 doesn’t wanna move after I changed trans fluid
> I went into gears p R D a few times it didn’t work so I added a lil more
> now car smoke from tail pipe on start up I need help I don’t wanna sell my
> car 臘‍♂️“
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Apparently drained (some) trans fluid then poured trans fluid into
> engine dipstick tube (and I’m not sure this car has an oil dipstick, mine
> doesn’t???). But he’s taking the car to the shop to get the conductor plate
> dealt with. 722.9 trans has no fill/dipstick tube.  Ugh.
> >>>
> >>> Oh my…
> >>>
> >>> —FT
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] 1990 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 400 SEL Sedan 4D,$1,000

NLA

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1021689265360739
>
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Re: [MBZ] New radiator but still overheats. Might be a head gasket.? 2000 Mercedes-Benz M-Class, $850

Worst case scenario what would it cost to replace the head gasket?

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> Tempting
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1381769658919266
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Re: [MBZ] I will not be able to answer questions unless you are in front of me. 1987 Mercedes-Benz 560SL - $12, 500 (Saint Simons Island)

It's truthfully advertised than that is not an unfair price.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 9:34 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I apologize but we have had dozens of calls from Germany, New York,
> California, etc. Too busy for this. If you are local, come drive it. And
> the price is absolutely firm. Thank you.
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> https://brunswick.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-simons-island-1987-mercedes-benz/7449808756.html
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Re: [MBZ] FB 211 group genius

2022-02-24 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes

Classic FB car group behavior.

I will say that in my on-again/off-again 944 search, I found a 944 group that 
is super nice, everyone gets along, and no one is a pretentious asshat or gets 
their shorts in a knot over outrageous modifications (although you rarely see 
any.)

It’s quite refreshing.

-D

> On Feb 24, 2022, at 6:32 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Nope, tried that. They all thought they knew everything already, or only 
> believe what the supposed “expert” says who is also a kid and knows nothing. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 24, 2022, at 7:20 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
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>> All these poor souls need is a mentor…someone it teach them and guide them. 
>> Perhaps you should step up and be that savior. 
>> (Where is the damn sarcasm fairy emoji??)
>> 
>> AZBob
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>> Sent from my iPad
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 On Feb 24, 2022, at 6:10 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
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>>> “So my 2004 Benz e500 doesn’t wanna move after I changed trans fluid I 
>>> went into gears p R D a few times it didn’t work so I added a lil more now 
>>> car smoke from tail pipe on start up I need help I don’t wanna sell my car 
>>> 臘‍♂️“
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>>> 
>>> Apparently drained (some) trans fluid then poured trans fluid into engine 
>>> dipstick tube (and I’m not sure this car has an oil dipstick, mine 
>>> doesn’t???). But he’s taking the car to the shop to get the conductor plate 
>>> dealt with. 722.9 trans has no fill/dipstick tube.  Ugh. 
>>> 
>>> Oh my…
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>>> —FT
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[MBZ] 1986 420SEL - 117k miles - $4,000

2022-02-24 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

Might be reasonably nice, hard to tell from the flip-phone pics. Don't care for 
the wheels.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/south-holland-1986-mercedes-benz-sel/7450139533.html

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[MBZ] This car is a Gem. 1987 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D, $6, 000


300SD   Looks very clean.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/359423162699069

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[MBZ] 1990 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 400 SEL Sedan 4D,$1,000


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1021689265360739

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[MBZ] New radiator but still overheats. Might be a head gasket.? 2000 Mercedes-Benz M-Class, $850


Tempting

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1381769658919266

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[MBZ] I will not be able to answer questions unless you are in front of me. 1987 Mercedes-Benz 560SL - $12, 500 (Saint Simons Island)

I apologize but we have had dozens of calls from Germany, New York, 
California, etc. Too busy for this. If you are local, come drive it. And 
the price is absolutely firm. Thank you.


https://brunswick.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-simons-island-1987-mercedes-benz/7449808756.html


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Re: [MBZ] Turns Over but does not run Mercedes Benz E-300 - $680 (Jacksonville - Northside)

Starts but doesn't run?
Won't start?

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 9:29 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> 1990 E-300  Doesn't look too bad, fuel pump or filters or something simple?
>
> 1990 E-300
> Turns Over but does not run
> Single Owner Car
> Clean Title
> Black Leather Interior
> Sunroof
> Straight Six Engine
> Delivery is available
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[MBZ] Turns Over but does not run Mercedes Benz E-300 - $680 (Jacksonville - Northside)


1990 E-300  Doesn't look too bad, fuel pump or filters or something simple?

1990 E-300
Turns Over but does not run
Single Owner Car
Clean Title
Black Leather Interior
Sunroof
Straight Six Engine
Delivery is available

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-mercedes-benz-300/7449812989.html

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[MBZ] If I want to stay in the house with the Wife the car has to go. 2001 MERCEDES CLK - $3, 700 (Indian Trail)

CLK320 does not have 8 zylinders.  A 320 is not particularly powerful 
but whatever.  Car is a dirty beater, knock off $1k and that would be a 
good starting point.


Brought for my Son but it’s to powerful for him.

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/monroe-2001-mercedes-clk/7450108572.html

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Re: [MBZ] FB 211 group genius