Re: [MBZ] Owosso Trailer for Kleb

2022-11-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Flying it was almost exactly on par with hand feeding a pet cobra. The
engine I used produced double the design horsepower and was about 2/3 more
weight than Bede designed the airplane for.
The added 11 inches put it almost back in the balance envelope, but it was
right on the ragged edge, which made it very dicey to handle. It was not an
airplane for the novice pilot, and was easy to take beyond safe limits in
seconds.
You know you are living dangerously when both the wife and the mistress
have your life insurance agent on speed dial...:))

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 11:02 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> Same size as me so I would have needed that mod as well. Just as well as I
> had no money but at that time I had the young and immortal mindset so I
> probably would have ended up like the second owner.
>
> --FT
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>
> > On Nov 20, 2022, at 12:06 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > A very long time ago, I built a BD5 from the kit, which was never
> supplied
> > complete, as Mr. Bede did in those days. Which meant that I made multiple
> > trips to Newton, KS, to kick parts into existance that otherwise didn't
> > exist since Bede had and owned the only full set of jigs and fixtures.
> > One of the things that I did was redesign the cockpit area by adding 11
> > inches, which would accommodate my 6'4" body. Since Bede never supplied
> an
> > engine that would work, I designed / modified a Honda Civic engine with
> > gear reduction to drive the prop, and flew the airplane with good
> success.
> > Bede and I had a love / hate relationship because I had "redesigned his
> > airplane" and made it work... which it did. It was wicked fast, had the
> > flight personality of a run over rattlesnake, and always drew way more
> > attention than I wanted. I sold it after about 200 hrs of flight and a
> > 1,000 hrs of "fixing" to a guy that promptly destroyed it and himself...
> > case closed...
> > Anyway, as someone here stated, the cycle looks very much like the Bede
> > aircraft, only it has 2 sets and is about as crash worthy... [ie, one
> > mistake and you die].
> > A Benze it is not.
> >
> >> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 7:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I saw one of those things once. The jet. It was like the size of my
> >> bicycle. The pilot couldn’t be much over 5’ to fit into it. It was very
> >> cool though and I bet it was lots of fun
> >>
> >> --FT
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> >>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 9:46 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> >>>
> >>> Someone made a comment to that effect in the comments early on.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Nov 19, 2022, at 9:42 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> 
>  That thing looks like a BD-5
> 
>  --FT
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> > Might need to black out the cheesecake
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-owos-pulse/
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Re: [MBZ] Put a battery on that green SDL

2022-11-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Second thought, if the car has not been running for a while, all the
hydraulic valve lifters could have bled down... so multiple fail to start
paths in operation at once.
Valves not opening.
Fuel not primed to injectors.
Missing run components:
Suck: Collapsed lifters so not enough air to compress
Squeeze: No air to compress [and make heat] plus, no fuel to ignite
[injectors dry and bled down]
Bang: No bang happens because of the lack of the first two.
Blow: I note quite a lot of blowby when you take off the oil fill cap.. if
the exhaust valves are staying closed, the spinning cylinders would pump
whatever air is in the cylinders past the rings and pressurize the
crankcase.. since the valves are not opening to exhaust, which I suspect is
what may be happening..


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> In the video, it seems to spin over fast enough to make compression to
> start, I'd be tempted to give it a short squirt of diesel death in the
> intake just to help it light off enough to prime the injectors. If it's
> been setting for a "while" most likely it's lost prime to the injectors..
> crack the lines and prime the intake with a short blast of diesel death and
> look for fuel coming out at each injector line..
> Since it's only cranking at the underhood start switch cobbled in, it
> seems very likely the glow plug cycle is bypassed also. Steal a hair dryer
> or heat gun and preheat down the intake while you crank it a few times to
> warm up the cylinders then give it a blast of eather diesel death and crank
> it... it should light off for a short bit.. That will at least tell you if
> it will run..
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 7:15 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> The 603 has hydraulic valves, but going point, one of them might be not
>> pumped up or something.
>>
>> On 11/20/2022 8:11 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> > Set the valves, prime the fuel system up to the injectors.
>> > Try starting it then. I think the clack-clack noise sounds like rocker
>> arm
>> > slap from a loose adjustment, which would mean a valve [or more than one
>> > cylinder of valves] are not opening, No air = no compression = no fire.
>> > Or, not.. Bring the car closer to the computer so I can get a better
>> look
>> > at it.. ;))
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 2:41 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> No crank at the key. Discovered a starter button wired in under the
>> hood.
>> >> Cranks over but to me sounds like no compression and maybe a rod
>> clanking?
>> >>
>> >> https://youtube.com/shorts/PmpoufrGgVQ?feature=share
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Re: [MBZ] Put a battery on that green SDL

2022-11-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
In the video, it seems to spin over fast enough to make compression to
start, I'd be tempted to give it a short squirt of diesel death in the
intake just to help it light off enough to prime the injectors. If it's
been setting for a "while" most likely it's lost prime to the injectors..
crack the lines and prime the intake with a short blast of diesel death and
look for fuel coming out at each injector line..
Since it's only cranking at the underhood start switch cobbled in, it seems
very likely the glow plug cycle is bypassed also. Steal a hair dryer or
heat gun and preheat down the intake while you crank it a few times to warm
up the cylinders then give it a blast of eather diesel death and crank
it... it should light off for a short bit.. That will at least tell you if
it will run..

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> The 603 has hydraulic valves, but going point, one of them might be not
> pumped up or something.
>
> On 11/20/2022 8:11 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > Set the valves, prime the fuel system up to the injectors.
> > Try starting it then. I think the clack-clack noise sounds like rocker
> arm
> > slap from a loose adjustment, which would mean a valve [or more than one
> > cylinder of valves] are not opening, No air = no compression = no fire.
> > Or, not.. Bring the car closer to the computer so I can get a better look
> > at it.. ;))
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 2:41 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> No crank at the key. Discovered a starter button wired in under the
> hood.
> >> Cranks over but to me sounds like no compression and maybe a rod
> clanking?
> >>
> >> https://youtube.com/shorts/PmpoufrGgVQ?feature=share
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Put a battery on that green SDL

2022-11-20 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
The 603 has hydraulic valves, but going point, one of them might be not 
pumped up or something.


On 11/20/2022 8:11 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Set the valves, prime the fuel system up to the injectors.
Try starting it then. I think the clack-clack noise sounds like rocker arm
slap from a loose adjustment, which would mean a valve [or more than one
cylinder of valves] are not opening, No air = no compression = no fire.
Or, not.. Bring the car closer to the computer so I can get a better look
at it.. ;))

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 2:41 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


No crank at the key. Discovered a starter button wired in under the hood.
Cranks over but to me sounds like no compression and maybe a rod clanking?

https://youtube.com/shorts/PmpoufrGgVQ?feature=share

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Re: [MBZ] Put a battery on that green SDL

2022-11-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Set the valves, prime the fuel system up to the injectors.
Try starting it then. I think the clack-clack noise sounds like rocker arm
slap from a loose adjustment, which would mean a valve [or more than one
cylinder of valves] are not opening, No air = no compression = no fire.
Or, not.. Bring the car closer to the computer so I can get a better look
at it.. ;))

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> No crank at the key. Discovered a starter button wired in under the hood.
> Cranks over but to me sounds like no compression and maybe a rod clanking?
>
> https://youtube.com/shorts/PmpoufrGgVQ?feature=share
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Re: [MBZ] I might have done A Thing

2022-11-20 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Nope

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> Did the pics go through?
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> > On Nov 20, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> > What did you add to Okie Acres East?
> >
> >
> > Rick
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Re: [MBZ] I might have done A Thing

2022-11-20 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Did the pics go through?

--FT
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> What did you add to Okie Acres East?
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[MBZ] Put a battery on that green SDL

2022-11-20 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
No crank at the key. Discovered a starter button wired in under the hood. 
Cranks over but to me sounds like no compression and maybe a rod clanking?

https://youtube.com/shorts/PmpoufrGgVQ?feature=share

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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 116

2022-11-20 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Tank is installed back in the car. I probably should have ordered new hoses for 
the line out of the tank and from the pump to the supply line they do not 
appear to have been leaking, but they are also stiff as a board. I will see 
what they cost and how soon I can get them. The return lines and vent lines are 
dry rotted and need to be replaced but it’s just regular hose by the foot. 

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> On Nov 20, 2022, at 1:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> ATTABOY!
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 2:46 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> Awesome!!!
>> Strong work 
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
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>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: November 20, 2022 1:40 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
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>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>> Subject: [MBZ] Update on the 116
>> 
>> After a couple of days alternating using a speedo cable, stiff roll of
>> copper wire. And 130lbs of air pressure I finally cleared the return line.
>> I was about to throw in the towel and order a new line (which appears to
>> still be available), I applied the speedo cable on the drill and bit more,
>> then decided to try air one more time. It seems like it was still plugged
>> solid when suddenly whatever was in there shot out the other end hitting
>> shop wall like bullets. Line is clear! I can now blow air or carb cleaner
>> thru it. I filled the line up with carb cleaner again and I think I will
>> just let it sit overnight to help further clean the line out. I think I
>> might go ahead and lower the car back down and install the tank, then
>> finish hooking it up later while the lines sit and soak. I hope to have the
>> thing starting and running on its own so I can pull it out and get the GL
>> in for a starter replacement.
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Re: [MBZ] I might have done A Thing

2022-11-20 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Okie Acres East needs to dealer trade some units with Okie Acres. 

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> What did you add to Okie Acres East?
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 116

2022-11-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
ATTABOY!

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> Awesome!!!
> Strong work 
>
>
> Rick
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> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
> Subject: [MBZ] Update on the 116
>
> After a couple of days alternating using a speedo cable, stiff roll of
> copper wire. And 130lbs of air pressure I finally cleared the return line.
> I was about to throw in the towel and order a new line (which appears to
> still be available), I applied the speedo cable on the drill and bit more,
> then decided to try air one more time. It seems like it was still plugged
> solid when suddenly whatever was in there shot out the other end hitting
> shop wall like bullets. Line is clear! I can now blow air or carb cleaner
> thru it. I filled the line up with carb cleaner again and I think I will
> just let it sit overnight to help further clean the line out. I think I
> might go ahead and lower the car back down and install the tank, then
> finish hooking it up later while the lines sit and soak. I hope to have the
> thing starting and running on its own so I can pull it out and get the GL
> in for a starter replacement.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Update on the 116

2022-11-20 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Awesome!!!
Strong work 


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] Update on the 116

After a couple of days alternating using a speedo cable, stiff roll of copper 
wire. And 130lbs of air pressure I finally cleared the return line. I was about 
to throw in the towel and order a new line (which appears to still be 
available), I applied the speedo cable on the drill and bit more, then decided 
to try air one more time. It seems like it was still plugged solid when 
suddenly whatever was in there shot out the other end hitting shop wall like 
bullets. Line is clear! I can now blow air or carb cleaner thru it. I filled 
the line up with carb cleaner again and I think I will just let it sit 
overnight to help further clean the line out. I think I might go ahead and 
lower the car back down and install the tank, then finish hooking it up later 
while the lines sit and soak. I hope to have the thing starting and running on 
its own so I can pull it out and get the GL in for a starter replacement.

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Re: [MBZ] I might have done A Thing

2022-11-20 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
What did you add to Okie Acres East?


Rick

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[MBZ] Update on the 116

2022-11-20 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
After a couple of days alternating using a speedo cable, stiff roll of copper 
wire. And 130lbs of air pressure I finally cleared the return line. I was about 
to throw in the towel and order a new line (which appears to still be 
available), I applied the speedo cable on the drill and bit more, then decided 
to try air one more time. It seems like it was still plugged solid when 
suddenly whatever was in there shot out the other end hitting shop wall like 
bullets. Line is clear! I can now blow air or carb cleaner thru it. I filled 
the line up with carb cleaner again and I think I will just let it sit 
overnight to help further clean the line out. I think I might go ahead and 
lower the car back down and install the tank, then finish hooking it up later 
while the lines sit and soak. I hope to have the thing starting and running on 
its own so I can pull it out and get the GL in for a starter replacement. 

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D - 310k miles - $500

2022-11-20 Thread MG via Mercedes
Or also a build up of carbon on the top of the 
piston from not driving enough to warm up the 
engine every time. One 300d that I got had that 
problem and cleared up quite nicely after it was 
blown out on a couple of one hour drives.


Don't know how to tell one problem from the other 
so just got lucky on that one.


MG


Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Fwiw.
If the oil pressure is good, a loud knocking could be a plugged injector.
YMMV.


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The engine is known to go a million kilometers.

Also known not to, especially when "engine has loud knocking."

4-speed manual, might be a parts car for a swap to something else.


https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlestown-1981-mercedes-benz-240d/7559230835.html
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Re: [MBZ] Owosso Trailer for Kleb

2022-11-20 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Same size as me so I would have needed that mod as well. Just as well as I had 
no money but at that time I had the young and immortal mindset so I probably 
would have ended up like the second owner. 

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> On Nov 20, 2022, at 12:06 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
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> 
> A very long time ago, I built a BD5 from the kit, which was never supplied
> complete, as Mr. Bede did in those days. Which meant that I made multiple
> trips to Newton, KS, to kick parts into existance that otherwise didn't
> exist since Bede had and owned the only full set of jigs and fixtures.
> One of the things that I did was redesign the cockpit area by adding 11
> inches, which would accommodate my 6'4" body. Since Bede never supplied an
> engine that would work, I designed / modified a Honda Civic engine with
> gear reduction to drive the prop, and flew the airplane with good success.
> Bede and I had a love / hate relationship because I had "redesigned his
> airplane" and made it work... which it did. It was wicked fast, had the
> flight personality of a run over rattlesnake, and always drew way more
> attention than I wanted. I sold it after about 200 hrs of flight and a
> 1,000 hrs of "fixing" to a guy that promptly destroyed it and himself...
> case closed...
> Anyway, as someone here stated, the cycle looks very much like the Bede
> aircraft, only it has 2 sets and is about as crash worthy... [ie, one
> mistake and you die].
> A Benze it is not.
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 7:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I saw one of those things once. The jet. It was like the size of my
>> bicycle. The pilot couldn’t be much over 5’ to fit into it. It was very
>> cool though and I bet it was lots of fun
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Nov 19, 2022, at 9:46 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Someone made a comment to that effect in the comments early on.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Nov 19, 2022, at 9:42 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 That thing looks like a BD-5
 
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> Might need to black out the cheesecake
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-owos-pulse/
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[MBZ] I might have done A Thing

2022-11-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

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Re: [MBZ] Owosso Trailer for Kleb

2022-11-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Seats, not sets sorry about that...

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 10:05 AM G Mann  wrote:

> A very long time ago, I built a BD5 from the kit, which was never supplied
> complete, as Mr. Bede did in those days. Which meant that I made multiple
> trips to Newton, KS, to kick parts into existance that otherwise didn't
> exist since Bede had and owned the only full set of jigs and fixtures.
> One of the things that I did was redesign the cockpit area by adding 11
> inches, which would accommodate my 6'4" body. Since Bede never supplied an
> engine that would work, I designed / modified a Honda Civic engine with
> gear reduction to drive the prop, and flew the airplane with good success.
> Bede and I had a love / hate relationship because I had "redesigned his
> airplane" and made it work... which it did. It was wicked fast, had the
> flight personality of a run over rattlesnake, and always drew way more
> attention than I wanted. I sold it after about 200 hrs of flight and a
> 1,000 hrs of "fixing" to a guy that promptly destroyed it and himself...
> case closed...
> Anyway, as someone here stated, the cycle looks very much like the Bede
> aircraft, only it has 2 sets and is about as crash worthy... [ie, one
> mistake and you die].
> A Benze it is not.
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2022 at 7:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I saw one of those things once. The jet. It was like the size of my
>> bicycle. The pilot couldn’t be much over 5’ to fit into it. It was very
>> cool though and I bet it was lots of fun
>>
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>>
>> > On Nov 19, 2022, at 9:46 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Someone made a comment to that effect in the comments early on.
>> >
>> > -D
>> >
>> >> On Nov 19, 2022, at 9:42 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That thing looks like a BD-5
>> >>
>> >> --FT
>> >> Sent from iFōn
>> >>
>>  On Nov 19, 2022, at 10:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> >>> Might need to black out the cheesecake
>> >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-owos-pulse/
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Re: [MBZ] Owosso Trailer for Kleb

2022-11-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
A very long time ago, I built a BD5 from the kit, which was never supplied
complete, as Mr. Bede did in those days. Which meant that I made multiple
trips to Newton, KS, to kick parts into existance that otherwise didn't
exist since Bede had and owned the only full set of jigs and fixtures.
One of the things that I did was redesign the cockpit area by adding 11
inches, which would accommodate my 6'4" body. Since Bede never supplied an
engine that would work, I designed / modified a Honda Civic engine with
gear reduction to drive the prop, and flew the airplane with good success.
Bede and I had a love / hate relationship because I had "redesigned his
airplane" and made it work... which it did. It was wicked fast, had the
flight personality of a run over rattlesnake, and always drew way more
attention than I wanted. I sold it after about 200 hrs of flight and a
1,000 hrs of "fixing" to a guy that promptly destroyed it and himself...
case closed...
Anyway, as someone here stated, the cycle looks very much like the Bede
aircraft, only it has 2 sets and is about as crash worthy... [ie, one
mistake and you die].
A Benze it is not.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I saw one of those things once. The jet. It was like the size of my
> bicycle. The pilot couldn’t be much over 5’ to fit into it. It was very
> cool though and I bet it was lots of fun
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Nov 19, 2022, at 9:46 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Someone made a comment to that effect in the comments early on.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Nov 19, 2022, at 9:42 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> That thing looks like a BD-5
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iFōn
> >>
>  On Nov 19, 2022, at 10:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] seats 8, pimp suit extra -- 2009 Mercedes-Benz s550, $16, 500

2022-11-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I love the yellow blazer.  I wonder if it conveys?

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1112820376079086
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 Mercedes-Benz e-class,$6,500

2022-11-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Seriously? It's GREEN.  You'd be bidding vs. the Titan of Tulsa.

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> Same spec as my 95E320 minus the wheels.  Looks nice but no 6500 nice
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3126327224256315
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[MBZ] seats 8, pimp suit extra -- 2009 Mercedes-Benz s550,$16,500

2022-11-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1112820376079086

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[MBZ] Mercedes motor 2007 freighliner/ 2019 voltage 4115 toy hauler sport chassis, $79, 000

2022-11-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

I probably need this

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/805002300576810

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[MBZ] Dreamer -- 1983 Mercedes 240D running Engine,$700

2022-11-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/8256241137783385

Mileage on the engine is unknown. It starts up right away. Idles and 
accelerates fine. It looks as thou the engine may have a few hundred 
thousand on it. But the way it's running some mechanical work could of 
been done during its lifetime also. The engine will come complete with 
it's mechanical accessories. Like power steering pump, alternator, 
starter and a/c compressor. These alone are several hundreds of dollars. 
Things that are not attached to the motor do not come. They are things 
like the radiator, oil cooler, a/c condenser and battery. The are for 
sale separately. Local pickup only. Engine will be removed prior to pick up.


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[MBZ] 1995 Mercedes-Benz e-class,$6,500

2022-11-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Same spec as my 95E320 minus the wheels.  Looks nice but no 6500 nice

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3126327224256315

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[MBZ] Good car that needs some TLC 1995 Mercedes E320 station wagon - $9, 800 (Raleigh)

2022-11-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Maybe a $1500 car

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-1995-mercedes-e320-station-wagon/7559551292.html

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Re: [MBZ] 2001 ML320 - 103k miles - $3,500

2022-11-20 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
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> Looks clean overall, but not worth the ask if the AC doesn't work and there 
> are ABS issues. Boring color scheme as well.
> 
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/bolingbrook-2001-mercedes-benz-ml320/7559383388.html
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