Re: [MBZ] Anyone want to contact this guy and see what sort of scam he tries to run?

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Agreed

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> On May 3, 2023, at 11:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> To me it seems obvious that he omitted a zero in his asking price.
> 
>> On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 11:17 PM Craig via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 03 May 2023 20:29:02 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Can't quite make out the front plate (which he forgot to obscure) but
>>> not an Indiana car because Indiana doesn't have front plates.
>>> 
>>> https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/leo-mercedes/7617287195.html
>> 
>> 5Y_W926 (I cannot quite make out the character in the underscore position)
>> 
>> Starting with a "5", I suggest it is a California plate.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want to contact this guy and see what sort of scam he tries to run?

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To me it seems obvious that he omitted a zero in his asking price.

On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 11:17 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Wed, 03 May 2023 20:29:02 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Can't quite make out the front plate (which he forgot to obscure) but
> > not an Indiana car because Indiana doesn't have front plates.
> >
> > https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/leo-mercedes/7617287195.html
>
> 5Y_W926 (I cannot quite make out the character in the underscore position)
>
> Starting with a "5", I suggest it is a California plate.
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone want to contact this guy and see what sort of scam he tries to run?

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On Wed, 03 May 2023 20:29:02 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes
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> Can't quite make out the front plate (which he forgot to obscure) but
> not an Indiana car because Indiana doesn't have front plates.
> 
> https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/leo-mercedes/7617287195.html

5Y_W926 (I cannot quite make out the character in the underscore position)

Starting with a "5", I suggest it is a California plate.


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Re: [MBZ] Holy crack

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Seems like a fair price until you see the photos.

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1200991477224131/
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Can't quite make out the front plate (which he forgot to obscure) but not an 
Indiana car because Indiana doesn't have front plates.

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Re: [MBZ] Many, Many Dollhairs.

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190s until recently were not particularly desirable. Looked nice but not a lot 
of performance. A decent one might be available for $20-30k if even that much. 
Prices have been going crazy the last few years. 

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> On May 3, 2023, at 9:19 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> I was just looking at this, too. Beautiful car, love the color.
> 
> I don’t follow 190SL prices, but the ask seems a bit over the top without 
> knowing more. That and don’t forget that this is a 1950s era sports car, so 
> it’s very spartan.
> 
> -D
> 
> On May 3, 2023, at 6:15 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Wow that’s beautiful
> 
> --FT
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> On May 3, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/9171907266215180/
> 
> 
> 
> I guess these are fetching this kind of money, yes?
> 
> 
> 
> AZBob
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Many, Many Dollhairs.

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I was just looking at this, too. Beautiful car, love the color.

I don’t follow 190SL prices, but the ask seems a bit over the top without 
knowing more. That and don’t forget that this is a 1950s era sports car, so 
it’s very spartan.

-D

On May 3, 2023, at 6:15 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Wow that’s beautiful

--FT
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On May 3, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/9171907266215180/



I guess these are fetching this kind of money, yes?



AZBob



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Re: [MBZ] I Thought Only 450s Did This?

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Extra 0 in price 

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> Toasty!
> 
> https://www.benzworld.org/threads/1984-mercedes-benz-380-sl-parts-car.3119521/
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Re: [MBZ] Many, Many Dollhairs.

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Wow that’s beautiful --FTSent from iFōnOn May 3, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/9171907266215180/ I guess these are fetching this kind of money, yes? AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] I Thought Only 450s Did This?

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Yea, and they are totally on crack. It appears to be a $5-600 car to me 

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[MBZ] I Thought Only 450s Did This?

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Toasty!

https://www.benzworld.org/threads/1984-mercedes-benz-380-sl-parts-car.3119521/

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Re: [MBZ] The other major project I need to do for the shop

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Other than busting some wheel bolts off one of the cars with my 1/2” Milwaukee 
cordless impact, I haven’t had a chance to try it or the smaller ones I have on 
some serious repair related jobs.

I was using a 1/2” rough/long spade bit to drill holes in railroad ties for 
rebar with my 1/2” Milwaukee cordless drill today. That thing would twist your 
arm off!

A retractable air hose would be nice, but my compressor can’t be stored where I 
can get power to it. As a result I would have to move it out and plug it in. By 
then I might as well use my 50’ air hose. I live for the day when I can have a 
shop with dedicated air piping/compressor.

-D

> On May 3, 2023, at 4:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
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> I have a Harbor Freight retractable air hose and it's been an absolute game 
> changer. I think mine is 50' and will reach to any of the 3 vehicles in the 
> yard. The hose failed last summer, I replaced it with one from Amazon (made 
> in USA no less) which has been fine. It was easy to put the replacement on 
> the reel too.
> 
> That said when I did brakes on my Jetta a couple weeks ago I used my Makita 
> 1/2" cordless impact. Never felt like I needed the air impact. The cordless 
> is more convenient but it's heavy...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 07:03:37 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> For many years I operate with the air hose just thrown around like in the 
> photo. I have a retractable hose reel I need to install. The next big project 
> is to relocate the compressor and install the air lines throughout the shop. 
> I wish poos would stop by to help me organize. 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

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You have to bleed it with SDS. 

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Re: [MBZ] 2003 AMG S55 - 187k miles - $5,500

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You would have to got through the system to see what the issues are. Could be a 
line or block or valve leaking, pump issue, or one or more air shocks. A scan 
could give an indication but to be certain you’d have to go through the entire 
system. 

Unless there is a clear indication of what the particular issue is, that price 
is wa high. The 55 gets a premium but not that much for a suspension 
problem 

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> On May 3, 2023, at 6:47 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> I didn’t look at this, but if the air suspension is totally borked, probably 
> about $2300 for parts. That’s everything, meaning four new air shocks, parts 
> to rebuild valve blocks, etc.
> 
> Floyd knows these better than I, let’s see what he says.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 1:53 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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>> 
>> Hm. How hard could the air suspension issue be worst case?
>> 
>> Doesn't look slammed in the pics so those must be from at least last winter. 
>> Miles are kinda high but Interior looks nice.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

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There is a very specific procedure for SBC cars. It might have been changed 
when they did the accumulator replacement 

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> On May 3, 2023, at 2:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
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> On the subject of brakes, if I wanted to do a fluid flush on my W211 can I 
> just use my pressure bleeder on the fluid reservoir as I have done with older 
> (non-ABS) cars?
> 
>> On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 13:32, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> It would have been a 2006 or 2008 model, I don’t recall which one. At 
>> least I think it was the Focus. Could have been Mrs. Dan’s former 2006 
>> Mazda6, which was a Ford for all intents and purposes.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On May 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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>>> 
>>> I've heard of this but never had a car where I could not just press the 
>>> cylinder back with a clamp. Ford must have introduced it in a later model 
>>> year than the Focus I had ('03).
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 12:21, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when 
 we had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before
 I did some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back 
 into the caliper. Weird.
 
 I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
 collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made 
 well.
 
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Re: [MBZ] The other major project I need to do for the shop

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I have a Harbor Freight retractable air hose and it's been an absolute game 
changer. I think mine is 50' and will reach to any of the 3 vehicles in the 
yard. The hose failed last summer, I replaced it with one from Amazon (made in 
USA no less) which has been fine. It was easy to put the replacement on the 
reel too.

That said when I did brakes on my Jetta a couple weeks ago I used my Makita 
1/2" cordless impact. Never felt like I needed the air impact. The cordless is 
more convenient but it's heavy...

-Curt




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For many years I operate with the air hose just thrown around like in the 
photo. I have a retractable hose reel I need to install. The next big project 
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Re: [MBZ] The other major project I need to do for the shop

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I’m game 

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> I’m tellin’ ya…you need an Okie Q for doing all that stuff. 
> Several of us of her over the course of a couple of days could probably get 
> that joint squared away.
> 
> AZBob 
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>> On May 3, 2023, at 4:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> 
>> For many years I operate with the air hose just thrown around like in the 
>> photo. I have a retractable hose reel I need to install. The next big 
>> project is to relocate the compressor and install the air lines throughout 
>> the shop. I wish poos would stop by to help me organize. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The other major project I need to do for the shop

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I’m tellin’ ya…you need an Okie Q for doing all that stuff. 
Several of us of her over the course of a couple of days could probably get 
that joint squared away.

AZBob 

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> For many years I operate with the air hose just thrown around like in the 
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> I wish poos would stop by to help me organize. 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

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For the heavy pallet racks, yes.

-D

> On May 3, 2023, at 2:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Anytime I see shelving for sale it seems like they want more than it would 
> cost new. 
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Re: [MBZ] 2003 AMG S55 - 187k miles - $5,500

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I didn’t look at this, but if the air suspension is totally borked, probably 
about $2300 for parts. That’s everything, meaning four new air shocks, parts to 
rebuild valve blocks, etc.

Floyd knows these better than I, let’s see what he says.

-D

> On May 3, 2023, at 1:53 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hm. How hard could the air suspension issue be worst case?
> 
> Doesn't look slammed in the pics so those must be from at least last winter. 
> Miles are kinda high but Interior looks nice.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] O.T.ish. Drill Bits

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One clue for quality is that the Taiwanese stuff is usually better IME.

Greg


> Yeah Harbor Freight is hit and miss. Some of their stuff is absolute junk,
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Re: [MBZ] O.T.ish. Drill Bits

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I like the big sets of cheap bits. When they are worn or are not up to the
job I replace them with Latrobe (high Cobalt alloy). So my cheap bits
container has all the most used bits replaced with really good ones.

Greg

> I suppose I’ll see how they function. They got through the metal studs
> today with ease.
>
> Who makes good bits?
>
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[MBZ] Holy crack

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1200991477224131/


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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Anytime I see shelving for sale it seems like they want more than it would cost 
new. 

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> On May 3, 2023, at 3:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

If it’s SBC, then no. 

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> On May 3, 2023, at 1:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On the subject of brakes, if I wanted to do a fluid flush on my W211 can I 
> just use my pressure bleeder on the fluid reservoir as I have done with older 
> (non-ABS) cars?
> 
>> On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 13:32, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> It would have been a 2006 or 2008 model, I don’t recall which one. At 
>> least I think it was the Focus. Could have been Mrs. Dan’s former 2006 
>> Mazda6, which was a Ford for all intents and purposes.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On May 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've heard of this but never had a car where I could not just press the 
>>> cylinder back with a clamp. Ford must have introduced it in a later model 
>>> year than the Focus I had ('03).
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 12:21, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when 
 we had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before 
 I did some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back 
 into the caliper. Weird.
 
 I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
 collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made 
 well.
 
 -D
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[MBZ] 2004 E500 4Matic - 76k miles - $10,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Pretty low miles and 4matic model but still -- holy crack!

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-louis-2004-mercedes-benz-e500/7616992328.html
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[MBZ] 2003 AMG S55 - 187k miles - $5,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Hm. How hard could the air suspension issue be worst case?

Doesn't look slammed in the pics so those must be from at least last winter. 
Miles are kinda high but Interior looks nice.

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-2003-amg-s55/7617095564.html
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[MBZ] 1992 300CE - 86k miles - $8,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Wonder if this is just an oil leak from a valve cover. Poor photos and not 
enough. Still likely crack pricing but IDK what the coupes are worth.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/schaumburg-1992-mercedes-300ce-low-miles/7617175387.html

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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I went on a wire shelf bender a few years ago. You know, the stainless steel 
ones like they use in commercial kitchens. You can pick up the real thing 
stupid cheap on FB marketplace and Craigslist. Most of mine have casters, too, 
so they can be moved around if I chose to.

The only drawback is their inability to store small things. For instance, a 
spray can doesn’t sit evenly/upright unless it’s centered on a couple of the 
wires. I did get heavy plastic shelf liner sort of things with a few of them 
and they help.

-D

> On May 3, 2023, at 1:16 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 03/05/2023 8:17 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I found that the wire racks for pliers work well. 
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
>> 
>> I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
>> 
>> I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would be 
>> handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is fun, but 
>> can get expensive.
>> 
>> -D
> 
> My problem in the garage and basement is a lack of wall space. There are lots 
> of ideas for racks and cabinets but I just don't have the wall space for them.
> 
> I need bigger house and a bigger garage, but neither of those is going to 
> happen.
> 
> Randy
> 
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Re: [MBZ] O.T.ish. Drill Bits

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I have had good luck with Bosch drill bits.

Randy

On 03/05/2023 10:19 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgQeSrsAXgE

Best value is DeWalt, best bit is Bosch according to his tests.

DeWalt and Temo for step bits.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGbMQul6_Bc

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:14 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


On Tue, 2 May 2023 16:35:09 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
 wrote:


I suppose I’ll see how they function. They got through the metal studs
today with ease.

Who makes good bits?


https://www.jbtools.com/shop/?search_query=bits#/filter:brand:Century$2520Drill

https://www.jbtools.com/shop/?search_query=bits#/filter:brand:KnKut


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 03/05/2023 8:17 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

I found that the wire racks for pliers work well. 
https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html

I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1

I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would be 
handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is fun, but 
can get expensive.

-D


My problem in the garage and basement is a lack of wall space. There are 
lots of ideas for racks and cabinets but I just don't have the wall 
space for them.


I need bigger house and a bigger garage, but neither of those is going 
to happen.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

The highest quality HF stuff comes from Taiwan. If or rather when mainland 
China takes them over, all bets are off.


Rick

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They’re fine once you wash off the blood of the CCP prisoners

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> On May 3, 2023, at 1:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Poos can’t get enough of the Chinese tools
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 3, 2023, at 12:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when we 
>> had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before I did 
>> some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back into the 
>> caliper. Weird.
>>
>> I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
>> collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made well.
>>
>> -D
>>
 On May 3, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>>
>>> As my HF kit increases I'm increasingly impressed with their tools.
>>>
>>> For instance if you're still cramming a screwdriver into the caliper to 
>>> push pads back you really need this: 
>>> https://www.harborfreight.com/disc-brake-pad-and-caliper-service-tool-kit-11-piece-63264.html?_br_psugg_q=brake+caliper+tool
>>>
>>> I bought it because VW rear calipers have to rotate as they get pushed 
>>> back. That's not an option, you ruin the calipers if they don't rotate. You 
>>> can buy a little cube thing at the autoparts store and get frustrated and 
>>> chuck it across the garage or you can buy the right tool for the job. For 
>>> $50 it's indispensable when required and just really good the rest of the 
>>> time...
>>>
>>>
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>>
 On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:28:17 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You guys are a bunch of lightweights. I have a HF not 5 minutes from my 
>>> house. I might go there once a month. No problem getting in/out without 
>>> impulse buys.
>>>
>>> I try to limit my exposure to Chinesium as much as possible. Yes, HF is a 
>>> great resource, but it’s also got a lot of crap.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
> On May 3, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:

 Yes it is

 Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> to do otherwise is very dangerous
>
> --FT
>
>> On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things 
>> like that. Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn 
>> around, head to the cash stand and leave.
>>
>> AZBob
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
 On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
 Mercedes  wrote:
>>>
>>> I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
>>> well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
>>>
>>> I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
>>>
>>> I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it 
>>> would be handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing 
>>> things is fun, but can get expensive.
>>>
>>> -D
>
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[MBZ] Many, Many Dollhairs.

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/9171907266215180/ I guess these are fetching this kind of money, yes? AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

On the subject of brakes, if I wanted to do a fluid flush on my W211 can I just 
use my pressure bleeder on the fluid reservoir as I have done with older 
(non-ABS) cars?

On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 13:32, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> It would have been a 2006 or 2008 model, I don’t recall which one. At 
> least I think it was the Focus. Could have been Mrs. Dan’s former 2006 
> Mazda6, which was a Ford for all intents and purposes.
>
> -D
>
>> On May 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I've heard of this but never had a car where I could not just press the 
>> cylinder back with a clamp. Ford must have introduced it in a later model 
>> year than the Focus I had ('03).
>> 
>> On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 12:21, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when 
>>> we had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before 
>>> I did some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back 
>>> into the caliper. Weird.
>>> 
>>> I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
>>> collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made 
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> -D
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[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

It would have been a 2006 or 2008 model, I don’t recall which one. At least I 
think it was the Focus. Could have been Mrs. Dan’s former 2006 Mazda6, which 
was a Ford for all intents and purposes.

-D

> On May 3, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've heard of this but never had a car where I could not just press the 
> cylinder back with a clamp. Ford must have introduced it in a later model 
> year than the Focus I had ('03).
> 
> On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 12:21, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when 
>> we had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before 
>> I did some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back 
>> into the caliper. Weird.
>> 
>> I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
>> collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made 
>> well.
>> 
>> -D
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[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I've heard of this but never had a car where I could not just press the 
cylinder back with a clamp. Ford must have introduced it in a later model year 
than the Focus I had ('03).

On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 12:21, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when 
> we had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before 
> I did some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back 
> into the caliper. Weird.
>
> I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
> collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made 
> well.
>
> -D

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On Wed, May 3, 2023, at 08:17, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

> Organizing things is fun, but can get expensive.

Yes -- if you ever watch Adam Savage on YouTube, it seems that about half his 
projects are just building things to organize other things. He's definitely got 
some OCD going on too.


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[MBZ] Speaking of tools

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Max and I went to the knacker Saturday to get some 211 parts.  I was 
going to get a mirror off a car (black, matches the $400E500) and it 
appeared to have torx screws holding it on.  So I got torx drivers and 
they wouldn't fit.  I look and the screws have these little nibs in the 
middle for "security."  $h1t.


Max got a whole door and was going to swap the mirror and it turns out 
they are not "torx" but a 5-star variant instead of 6 points, and with 
the little nib.  d@mn.


So I first ordered the torx "security" version with a hole in the bit 
then he told me they were 5point and found a set of those so ordered 
those too.  They all came today from a Large Wymyn so now I have a 
proper set of bits for my travel toolbag.  I have a driver in my travel 
toolbox so all good.


Now I guess I can go around stealing 211 mirrors

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[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

They’re fine once you wash off the blood of the CCP prisoners 

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> On May 3, 2023, at 1:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Poos can’t get enough of the Chinese tools 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 12:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when we 
>> had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before I did 
>> some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back into the 
>> caliper. Weird.
>> 
>> I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
>> collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made well.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On May 3, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As my HF kit increases I'm increasingly impressed with their tools.
>>> 
>>> For instance if you're still cramming a screwdriver into the caliper to 
>>> push pads back you really need this: 
>>> https://www.harborfreight.com/disc-brake-pad-and-caliper-service-tool-kit-11-piece-63264.html?_br_psugg_q=brake+caliper+tool
>>> 
>>> I bought it because VW rear calipers have to rotate as they get pushed 
>>> back. That's not an option, you ruin the calipers if they don't rotate. You 
>>> can buy a little cube thing at the autoparts store and get frustrated and 
>>> chuck it across the garage or you can buy the right tool for the job. For 
>>> $50 it's indispensable when required and just really good the rest of the 
>>> time...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
 On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:28:17 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You guys are a bunch of lightweights. I have a HF not 5 minutes from my 
>>> house. I might go there once a month. No problem getting in/out without 
>>> impulse buys.
>>> 
>>> I try to limit my exposure to Chinesium as much as possible. Yes, HF is a 
>>> great resource, but it’s also got a lot of crap.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On May 3, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Yes it is 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 3, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> to do otherwise is very dangerous
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things 
>> like that. Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn 
>> around, head to the cash stand and leave.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
 Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
>>> well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
>>> 
>>> I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
>>> 
>>> I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it 
>>> would be handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing 
>>> things is fun, but can get expensive.
>>> 
>>> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Poos can’t get enough of the Chinese tools 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2023, at 12:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when we 
> had Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before I did 
> some research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back into the 
> caliper. Weird.
> 
> I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new 
> collection at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made well.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> As my HF kit increases I'm increasingly impressed with their tools.
>> 
>> For instance if you're still cramming a screwdriver into the caliper to push 
>> pads back you really need this: 
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/disc-brake-pad-and-caliper-service-tool-kit-11-piece-63264.html?_br_psugg_q=brake+caliper+tool
>> 
>> I bought it because VW rear calipers have to rotate as they get pushed back. 
>> That's not an option, you ruin the calipers if they don't rotate. You can 
>> buy a little cube thing at the autoparts store and get frustrated and chuck 
>> it across the garage or you can buy the right tool for the job. For $50 it's 
>> indispensable when required and just really good the rest of the time...
>> 
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:28:17 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You guys are a bunch of lightweights. I have a HF not 5 minutes from my 
>> house. I might go there once a month. No problem getting in/out without 
>> impulse buys.
>> 
>> I try to limit my exposure to Chinesium as much as possible. Yes, HF is a 
>> great resource, but it’s also got a lot of crap.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On May 3, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes it is 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 3, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 to do otherwise is very dangerous
 
 --FT
 
> On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things like 
> that. Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn around, 
> head to the cash stand and leave.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
>> well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
>> 
>> I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
>> 
>> I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it 
>> would be handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing 
>> things is fun, but can get expensive.
>> 
>> -D
 
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I had to buy one of those little “cubes” to crank the piston down when we had 
Ford Focii in the house. C-clamped and beat on the thing before I did some 
research to discover that the piston has to be screwed back into the caliper. 
Weird.

I’m very pleased with the HF hand tool set I bought to start the new collection 
at the AZ manse. They work just fine and seem to be made well.

-D

> On May 3, 2023, at 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> As my HF kit increases I'm increasingly impressed with their tools.
> 
> For instance if you're still cramming a screwdriver into the caliper to push 
> pads back you really need this: 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/disc-brake-pad-and-caliper-service-tool-kit-11-piece-63264.html?_br_psugg_q=brake+caliper+tool
> 
> I bought it because VW rear calipers have to rotate as they get pushed back. 
> That's not an option, you ruin the calipers if they don't rotate. You can buy 
> a little cube thing at the autoparts store and get frustrated and chuck it 
> across the garage or you can buy the right tool for the job. For $50 it's 
> indispensable when required and just really good the rest of the time...
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:28:17 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You guys are a bunch of lightweights. I have a HF not 5 minutes from my 
> house. I might go there once a month. No problem getting in/out without 
> impulse buys.
> 
> I try to limit my exposure to Chinesium as much as possible. Yes, HF is a 
> great resource, but it’s also got a lot of crap.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes it is 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> to do otherwise is very dangerous
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
 I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things like 
 that. Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn around, 
 head to the cash stand and leave.
 
 AZBob
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
> well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
> 
> I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
> 
> I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would 
> be handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is 
> fun, but can get expensive.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

As my HF kit increases I'm increasingly impressed with their tools.

For instance if you're still cramming a screwdriver into the caliper to push 
pads back you really need this: 
https://www.harborfreight.com/disc-brake-pad-and-caliper-service-tool-kit-11-piece-63264.html?_br_psugg_q=brake+caliper+tool

I bought it because VW rear calipers have to rotate as they get pushed back. 
That's not an option, you ruin the calipers if they don't rotate. You can buy a 
little cube thing at the autoparts store and get frustrated and chuck it across 
the garage or you can buy the right tool for the job. For $50 it's 
indispensable when required and just really good the rest of the time...


-Curt


On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 11:28:17 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





You guys are a bunch of lightweights. I have a HF not 5 minutes from my house. 
I might go there once a month. No problem getting in/out without impulse buys.

I try to limit my exposure to Chinesium as much as possible. Yes, HF is a great 
resource, but it’s also got a lot of crap.

-D

> On May 3, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes it is 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> to do otherwise is very dangerous
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things like 
>>> that. Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn around, 
>>> head to the cash stand and leave.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes  wrote:
 
 I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
 well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
 
 I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
 
 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
 
 I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would 
 be handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is 
 fun, but can get expensive.
 
 -D
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

You guys are a bunch of lightweights. I have a HF not 5 minutes from my house. 
I might go there once a month. No problem getting in/out without impulse buys.

I try to limit my exposure to Chinesium as much as possible. Yes, HF is a great 
resource, but it’s also got a lot of crap.

-D

> On May 3, 2023, at 8:10 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes it is 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 3, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> to do otherwise is very dangerous
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things like 
>>> that. Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn around, 
>>> head to the cash stand and leave.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes  wrote:
 
 I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
 well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
 
 I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
 
 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
 
 I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would 
 be handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is 
 fun, but can get expensive.
 
 -D
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Re: [MBZ] O.T.ish. Drill Bits

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgQeSrsAXgE

Best value is DeWalt, best bit is Bosch according to his tests.

DeWalt and Temo for step bits.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGbMQul6_Bc

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:14 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Tue, 2 May 2023 16:35:09 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I suppose I’ll see how they function. They got through the metal studs
> > today with ease.
> >
> > Who makes good bits?
>
>
> https://www.jbtools.com/shop/?search_query=bits#/filter:brand:Century$2520Drill
>
> https://www.jbtools.com/shop/?search_query=bits#/filter:brand:KnKut
>
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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes it is 

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> On May 3, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> to do otherwise is very dangerous
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things like 
>> that. Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn around, 
>> head to the cash stand and leave.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via 
 Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
>>> well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
>>> 
>>> I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
>>> 
>>> I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would 
>>> be handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is fun, 
>>> but can get expensive.
>>> 
>>> -D
> 
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[MBZ] Need to rebuild transmission! Mechanics special 1991 Mercedes 300D - $900

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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

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to do otherwise is very dangerous

--FT

On 5/3/23 9:31 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things like that. 
Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn around, head to the 
cash stand and leave.

AZBob

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On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes  
wrote:

I found that the wire racks for pliers work 
well.https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html

I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1

I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would be 
handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is fun, but 
can get expensive.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

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I suppose I should browse more when I go in to HF to look for things like that. 
Typically, I just go in, walk straight to what I need, turn around, head to the 
cash stand and leave.

AZBob

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> On May 3, 2023, at 6:18 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I found that the wire racks for pliers work well. 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html
> 
> I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
> 
> I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would be 
> handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is fun, but 
> can get expensive.
> 
> -D
> 
> On May 2, 2023, at 1:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> That is what I went with for regular sockets, although the HF ones only go up 
> to 19 or 20 for 3/8 size, and was missing a coupe of sizes on 1/2 and only go 
> up to 29 I believe. I need to figure out something with the sockets that 
> won’t go on those. I am then using those cheap metal socket rails that they 
> snap into for Allen’s, torx etc. I need to see if there is a better storage 
> solution for those. Next I need to work on the wrench drawer, pliers, and 
> screw drivers. So need to get some sort of storage for those. As far as screw 
> drivers go, there might just be in a drawer loose. After this, I’m going to 
> pull everything out of the 46” box on the other side of the shop and load in 
> a 2nd set of tools for that station. I also have 2 of the 5 drawer mechanic 
> carts from HF that roll around that I will load a set of the more common hand 
> tools to roll around the shop as needed, using the top open part for throwing 
> bolts and small parts in while working on a car so they don’t get lost.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 2, 2023, at 3:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Wish I had gone with the plastic socket organizers with the pins like you 
> have rather than the kind that snap in the driver side hole. They can be 
> difficult to get the sockets off some time.
> 
> -D
> 
> On May 2, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s pretty much what I have, a cart that I will roll to the car and dump 
> any bolts and tools in, but then I never put it up and keep dumping more crap 
> on it. Here are some pics of my new box where I have started organizing 
> sockets. Still need to get some more organizers. I also have pics of my big 
> work bench that is vastly improved from yesterday, as well as my other 
> smaller tool box and my service cart. You can see how really bad it is.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 2, 2023, at 1:11 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> Here is my solution to the issue of getting tools to the work area and back
> to the "too big to move tool box" ...
> I use it to pull out the tools I think I'll need, it keeps them right at
> hand.. and when I'm done with the project.. tools go back on the cart and
> it rolls back to the big box and get wiped off and put away..
> https://www.harborfreight.com/tool-storage-organization/tool-storage/tool-carts/30-in-x-16-in-three-shelf-steel-service-cart-red-62179.html
> 
> On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:44 AM dan 
> penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  wrote:
> 
> Agreed, and it’s a behavior that one has to develop. I’m hard core about
> it (I don’t shadow my tools, so I’m not that bad) and make sure everything
> gets put away when I’m done. I might wait until the job is done if it’s
> something major, otherwise, I put stuff back as soon as I’m done with it.
> 
> -D
> 
> On May 2, 2023, at 8:34 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  wrote:
> 
> The real trick is keeping everything in its place once it has been
> sorted.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> On 01/05/2023 9:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> On Mon, 1 May 2023 20:43:34 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> Today I spent some time just going around the  shop throwing in a box
> anything socket related, and other box anything screwdriver or wrench
> related.  I then spend a couple of hours loading them into the chest on
> socket holders and/or socket rails.  Basically making complete sets of
> sockets and throwing the extras in a box to then use to make complete
> sets for the tool box on the other side of the shop. Anyway, very time
> consuming but hopefully soon I can then move on to organizing the
> parts.
> Good work. From experience, I 

Re: [MBZ] Tedious shop work

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I found that the wire racks for pliers work well. 
https://www.harborfreight.com/wire-pliers-rack-70022.html

I also found this rack for holding battery powered tools:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09F98P9S5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1

I haven’t found a place to hang it just yet, but I can see where it would be 
handy on the side of a tool cart, for example. Organizing things is fun, but 
can get expensive.

-D

On May 2, 2023, at 1:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

That is what I went with for regular sockets, although the HF ones only go up 
to 19 or 20 for 3/8 size, and was missing a coupe of sizes on 1/2 and only go 
up to 29 I believe. I need to figure out something with the sockets that won’t 
go on those. I am then using those cheap metal socket rails that they snap into 
for Allen’s, torx etc. I need to see if there is a better storage solution for 
those. Next I need to work on the wrench drawer, pliers, and screw drivers. So 
need to get some sort of storage for those. As far as screw drivers go, there 
might just be in a drawer loose. After this, I’m going to pull everything out 
of the 46” box on the other side of the shop and load in a 2nd set of tools for 
that station. I also have 2 of the 5 drawer mechanic carts from HF that roll 
around that I will load a set of the more common hand tools to roll around the 
shop as needed, using the top open part for throwing bolts and small parts in 
while working on a car so they don’t get lost.

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On May 2, 2023, at 3:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Wish I had gone with the plastic socket organizers with the pins like you have 
rather than the kind that snap in the driver side hole. They can be difficult 
to get the sockets off some time.

-D

On May 2, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

That’s pretty much what I have, a cart that I will roll to the car and dump any 
bolts and tools in, but then I never put it up and keep dumping more crap on 
it. Here are some pics of my new box where I have started organizing sockets. 
Still need to get some more organizers. I also have pics of my big work bench 
that is vastly improved from yesterday, as well as my other smaller tool box 
and my service cart. You can see how really bad it is.








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On May 2, 2023, at 1:11 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Here is my solution to the issue of getting tools to the work area and back
to the "too big to move tool box" ...
I use it to pull out the tools I think I'll need, it keeps them right at
hand.. and when I'm done with the project.. tools go back on the cart and
it rolls back to the big box and get wiped off and put away..
https://www.harborfreight.com/tool-storage-organization/tool-storage/tool-carts/30-in-x-16-in-three-shelf-steel-service-cart-red-62179.html

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:44 AM dan 
penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:

Agreed, and it’s a behavior that one has to develop. I’m hard core about
it (I don’t shadow my tools, so I’m not that bad) and make sure everything
gets put away when I’m done. I might wait until the job is done if it’s
something major, otherwise, I put stuff back as soon as I’m done with it.

-D

On May 2, 2023, at 8:34 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:

The real trick is keeping everything in its place once it has been
sorted.

Randy


On 01/05/2023 9:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
On Mon, 1 May 2023 20:43:34 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Today I spent some time just going around the  shop throwing in a box
anything socket related, and other box anything screwdriver or wrench
related.  I then spend a couple of hours loading them into the chest on
socket holders and/or socket rails.  Basically making complete sets of
sockets and throwing the extras in a box to then use to make complete
sets for the tool box on the other side of the shop. Anyway, very time
consuming but hopefully soon I can then move on to organizing the
parts.
Good work. From experience, I can say it will serve you well in the
future.


Craig

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