Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure how far the car can go...

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Interior looks nice and the paint might buff up nicely but I’m thinking $1k for 
sitting so long. Maybe $1.5 given it’s a coupé

--FT
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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 7:29 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Kleb car?
> 
> 
> [00z0z_i8HXfez0o1o_0iS09U_600x450.jpg]
> 1988 mercedes benz 300ce for sale by owner - Sarasota, FL - 
> craigslist
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T serpentine belt

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 7 Sep 2023 23:13:50 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Look on a forum like BenzWorld for the procedure if no one else here
> (Kleb?) weighs in. I’ve done it and don’t recall it being a difficult
> job, nor were the parts expensive.

I have done it -- twice -- and found it's not difficult, except for
initially breaking free the fan clutch center bolt.

It turns out there is a hole in the pulley and a pair of ribs on the
water pump where one can insert an allen wrench or a bent heavy steel wire
to keep the fan pulley from turning. And trying to clamp the belt to keep
it from turning doesn't always work.

I have three ZIP files I will send off list to Dimitri:

461K  1990.serp.belt.tensioner.replacement.zip
1.6M  1993.Serpentine.Belt+Tensioner.Replacement.Info.zip
5.4M  1993.Serpentine.Belt+Viscous.Clutch+Fan.pictures.zip


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 92 300D 2.5

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I will get you a list together…

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 6:35 PM, Donald Snook  wrote:
> 
> If you can find pristine well maintained 124 diesels with 140,000 miles for 
> 3-4K, I will buy every one you can find.  
> 
> Donald H. Snook
> 
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>> 
>> $3-4k
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:31 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is a pristine 92 300D 2.5 with 140,000 miles worth? Stacks of records 
>>> from finicky owner. 
>>> 
>>> I don’t mean the Kaleb price. I’m talking about real value. 
>>> 
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[MBZ] The 09 Bluetec is drinking oil

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

On the 700 mile trip home with it, it didn’t use any oil. Of course the batwing 
was cracked and probably not really sealing to the turbo. New batwing, full 
service including all fluids and filters, new tires, new motor mounts. I have 
taken it to St Louis once and on the way back the oil message came on to check 
at next fill up. I then drove it to Joplin and back. So I would say perhaps 
7-800 miles. It does appear to have an oil leak that seems to vary, sometimes 
it leaves big spots sometimes small ones. Checked oil yesterday morning and it 
was down to the bottom mark. Added 2 quarts which IIRC put it about 3/4 to full 
from my quick check. Yesterday drove it about 85 miles for an overnight stop. 
On the way home the message came on again. Checked it and it’s down to about 
half or maybe slightly less. So less than 200 miles it dropped from almost full 
to half or so. I also passed a vehicle on a 2 lane highway and shortly after it 
threw a check engine light. Codes are for pressure differential sensor, which 
pass the test in SDS, and ash context at upper limit. Checked that at its at 
100%. I’m guessing with the e batwing fixed the pressure control valve (PCV) is 
allowing oil to be sucked into the turbo more than it should. I have not 
replaced this yet but it’s pretty much a maintenance item on the 642. The 
diaphragm gets hard and allows oil to be sucked in. There is also lots of oil 
caked all over that side of the engine. I am going to stop driving it until I 
replace the pressure valve and will also replace the intake seals that are on 
the RF intake tract, seems oily there also. I am assuming it is burning too 
much oil right now and loaded up the DPF. After I do the work I will do a 
manual regen and see what it ends up. Worse case I pull it off and wash it out, 
maybe delete it. If it’s still sucking oil after replacing these parts I’m most 
likely going to dump it. I would hate to though because it runs really good. 

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Re: [MBZ] ML63 is ALIIIIIVE!!!!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

More like $2k or more

--FT
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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 4:43 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2023-09-07 16:27, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>> I must be getting old. I didn’t understand any of that.
> 
> He bought a nonfunctional ML63 with computer issues.
> Fixing it requires throwing thousand dollar bills at a dealer, or becoming a 
> computer expert.
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T serpentine belt

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

There is a French guy on YouTube who did a video on it. Doesn’t seem 
particularly difficult.

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 7:14 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Look on a forum like BenzWorld for the procedure if no one else here (Kleb?) 
> weighs in. I’ve done it and don’t recall it being a difficult job, nor were 
> the parts expensive.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 1:14 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So they’re not the same?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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 On Sep 7, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah an idler or tensioner pulley munching can do that. Worth replacing 
>>> both in any case just as a regular maintenance item 
>>> 
>>> --FT
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>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Did it actually break or just come off the pulleys?
 
 I ask because I’m wondering if the idler pulley needs to be replaced.
 
 -D
 
 
 
>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> The serpentine belt just broke a mile or so from home. I managed to coast 
> back home mostly downhill with some short spurts where I drove the car 
> until it started getting hot. 
> Anyway, I might tackle it on my own as I did the alternator on that car 
> when I first got it and obviously the serpentine belt had to come off for 
> that. Question is why did it fail? It looks like I might not be able to 
> bring it to the Q dammit.
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Re: [MBZ] 92 300D 2.5

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You were. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 7, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> I thought I was loballing.
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:59 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Crack.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> $7500.
>>> 
 On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:31 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 What is a pristine 92 300D 2.5 with 140,000 miles worth? Stacks of
>> records
 from finicky owner.
 
 I don’t mean the Kaleb price. I’m talking about real value.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 92 300D 2.5

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

If you can find pristine well maintained 124 diesels with 140,000 miles for 
3-4K, I will buy every one you can find.  

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> $3-4k
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:31 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What is a pristine 92 300D 2.5 with 140,000 miles worth? Stacks of records 
>> from finicky owner. 
>> 
>> I don’t mean the Kaleb price. I’m talking about real value. 
>> 
>> Donald H. Snook
>> 
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[MBZ] I’m not sure how far the car can go...

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Kleb car?


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1988 mercedes benz 300ce for sale by owner - Sarasota, FL - 
craigslist
sarasota.craigslist.org

-D
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T serpentine belt

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Look on a forum like BenzWorld for the procedure if no one else here (Kleb?) 
weighs in. I’ve done it and don’t recall it being a difficult job, nor were the 
parts expensive.

-D

> On Sep 7, 2023, at 1:14 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So they’re not the same?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah an idler or tensioner pulley munching can do that. Worth replacing 
>> both in any case just as a regular maintenance item 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did it actually break or just come off the pulleys?
>>> 
>>> I ask because I’m wondering if the idler pulley needs to be replaced.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> On Sep 7, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 The serpentine belt just broke a mile or so from home. I managed to coast 
 back home mostly downhill with some short spurts where I drove the car 
 until it started getting hot. 
 Anyway, I might tackle it on my own as I did the alternator on that car 
 when I first got it and obviously the serpentine belt had to come off for 
 that. Question is why did it fail? It looks like I might not be able to 
 bring it to the Q dammit.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Leatherique

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

That or if it’s wintertime put garbage bags over the seats with the car in a 
sunny spot. When it’s done the leather will be sort of sticky, but that wipes 
off with a shop towel or microfiber cloth.

-D

> On Sep 7, 2023, at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> IIRC you apply it and then leave the car in the sun with the windows rolled
> up (after removing all pets, of course).
> 
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 12:11 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> For a really prestine car
>> 
>> --FT
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>>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:36 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes. Prestine Clean and Rejuvenator.
>>> 
>>> Tell him I sent you and maybe he’ll cut you a deal. Or he’ll raise the
>> price. 😆
>>> 
>>> Clean, slather and bake.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Sep 7, 2023, at 6:54 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 My 124 has leather rather than MBTex. I’m a real fan of MBTex because
>> it wears like iron. I suppose leather is an upgrade.  The seats are in
>> great shape with hardly any creasing and no tears. But, the leather is not
>> soft. It’s almost hard. It is very smooth and I don’t want (or need to)
>> change the color.
 
 I have not ever used Leatherigue.  I don’t need to do the crack filler
>> or sanding or the total restoration.  I want to soften and condition the
>> leather.  I think a few folks on here have used it.  Is the two step
>> package what I want?  It’s the Rejuvenator and the cleaner.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 92 300D 2.5

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

So the 300e is already on the block, in favor of a 300d. Which will be sold in 
six months because _. (fill in the blank)

Guess it's better to flip them quick rather than hoard them like some of us 
(myself included).


Rick

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What is a pristine 92 300D 2.5 with 140,000 miles worth? Stacks of records from 
finicky owner.

I don’t mean the Kaleb price. I’m talking about real value.

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] ML63 is ALIIIIIVE!!!!

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

In more detail, which you’ll understand when I’m done:

The ISM, or intelligent servo module, controls the mechanical aspect of 
shifting the automatic transmission. It gets a signal from the shifter to tell 
it to engage the transmission in the chosen gear. If your ISM flakes out, the 
car is essentially undrivable. The only fix is to replace the ISM, but even if 
you do, it has to be coded to the car/VIN to be functional. Otherwise, it won’t 
“talk” to the other devices on the CANBUS network that connects it to all the 
other modules in the system.

I believe Floyd located a replacement ISM and installed it on the vehicle with 
no success. This is because it has to be version-coded, which can only be done 
with a direct connection to the Fatherland/MB via an SDS system., which is, for 
the most part, a dealer-only option. Some dealers will do coding only for a 
flat fee, but in most cases only if they know you or have a professional 
relationship with you, like an independent shop that services MBs who buy their 
parts from the dealer. For us “regular” folks it’s highly improbable that they 
would do it for you unless you purchased a new ISM. And maybe then even not.

Figure on a Mercedes built after about 2005 or so, depending on the model, will 
have this sort of setup. It’s actually pretty reliable - ISM failures aren’t 
that common as far as I know. Hence the reason why the seller whom Floyd bought 
his ML63 from was willing to part with it at a bargain-basement price. 
Otherwise, it’s a doorstop.

-D

> On Sep 7, 2023, at 1:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
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> On 2023-09-07 16:27, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>> I must be getting old. I didn’t understand any of that.
> 
> He bought a nonfunctional ML63 with computer issues.
> Fixing it requires throwing thousand dollar bills at a dealer, or becoming a 
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Re: [MBZ] Luxury car storage

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

And cheaper in the long run considering you would be building equity.

-D

> On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:36 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
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> Probably more convenient to just build it at home next to the pool.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 92 300D 2.5

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I thought I was loballing.

On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:59 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Crack.
>
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> > On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > $7500.
> >
> >> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:31 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> What is a pristine 92 300D 2.5 with 140,000 miles worth? Stacks of
> records
> >> from finicky owner.
> >>
> >> I don’t mean the Kaleb price. I’m talking about real value.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 92 300D 2.5

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Crack. 

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> $7500.
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 4:31 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
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>> 
>> What is a pristine 92 300D 2.5 with 140,000 miles worth? Stacks of records
>> from finicky owner.
>> 
>> I don’t mean the Kaleb price. I’m talking about real value.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 92 300D 2.5

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

$3-4k

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:31 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What is a pristine 92 300D 2.5 with 140,000 miles worth? Stacks of records 
> from finicky owner. 
> 
> I don’t mean the Kaleb price. I’m talking about real value. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 92 300D 2.5

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Oh, snap!

While you’ve been away, Kaleb has been known to pay over $1000 for a vehicle 
now and again. 

AZBob

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 1:31 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What is a pristine 92 300D 2.5 with 140,000 miles worth? Stacks of records 
> from finicky owner. 
> 
> I don’t mean the Kaleb price. I’m talking about real value. 
> 
> Donald H. Snook
> 
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Re: [MBZ] ML63 is ALIIIIIVE!!!!

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On 2023-09-07 16:27, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

I must be getting old. I didn’t understand any of that.


He bought a nonfunctional ML63 with computer issues.
Fixing it requires throwing thousand dollar bills at a dealer, or 
becoming a computer expert.


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Re: [MBZ] 92 300D 2.5

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$7500.

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> What is a pristine 92 300D 2.5 with 140,000 miles worth? Stacks of records
> from finicky owner.
>
> I don’t mean the Kaleb price. I’m talking about real value.
>
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[MBZ] 92 300D 2.5

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

What is a pristine 92 300D 2.5 with 140,000 miles worth? Stacks of records from 
finicky owner. 

I don’t mean the Kaleb price. I’m talking about real value. 

Donald H. Snook


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Re: [MBZ] Leatherique

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IIRC you apply it and then leave the car in the sun with the windows rolled
up (after removing all pets, of course).

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> For a really prestine car
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:36 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes. Prestine Clean and Rejuvenator.
> >
> > Tell him I sent you and maybe he’ll cut you a deal. Or he’ll raise the
> price. 😆
> >
> > Clean, slather and bake.
> >
> > -D
> >
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> >>
> >> My 124 has leather rather than MBTex. I’m a real fan of MBTex because
> it wears like iron. I suppose leather is an upgrade.  The seats are in
> great shape with hardly any creasing and no tears. But, the leather is not
> soft. It’s almost hard. It is very smooth and I don’t want (or need to)
> change the color.
> >>
> >> I have not ever used Leatherigue.  I don’t need to do the crack filler
> or sanding or the total restoration.  I want to soften and condition the
> leather.  I think a few folks on here have used it.  Is the two step
> package what I want?  It’s the Rejuvenator and the cleaner.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] ML63 is ALIIIIIVE!!!!

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I must be getting old. I didn’t understand any of that. 

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Buggered Benzmail  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes he could do it if you have a DAS/Xentry system that is up to date and 
> that he could do a remote session into. My system was out of date so I 
> dropped it off to him and he was going to update the computer with new 
> software but it needed a new larger hard drive and more memory. I ordered 
> that stuff but the computer didn’t like the memory (2 types actually) so that 
> didn’t work. So he loaned me one of his XENTRY machines which we used today. 
> I have a good Wi-Fi signal out where it is parked. He accessed it with 
> UltraViewer and basically just controlled it from his desk. Worked great. 
> 
> He has a lot of car images already in his systems but didn’t have this ML63 
> so had to download it. He did extract and copy what was in the car but wanted 
> a clean updated install into the car so it is a 2023 version. 
> 
> It was questionable whether this “new” ISM could be programmed. Apparently 
> some can’t but this one was able to take the new image for the car. Once it 
> was done vehicle started right up and no more faults. 
> 
> So anyway a bit more mechanical work to do to get it driveable but nothing 
> like messing with software and computers. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 2:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So how did you go about getting this imagine? Is this something your buddy 
>> can do for some of us list folk?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did a remote session with my buddy today to get the “new” ISM programmed. 
>>> Took some gyrations, had to pay MB for a software image of the car as he 
>>> didn’t have it for this kind of unique vehicle. $231 so not bad. Got it 
>>> done, looks good, no faults, will get it installed back on the tranny 
>>> tomorrow and everything else put back and go for a drive!  YAY!!!
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T serpentine belt

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So they’re not the same?

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah an idler or tensioner pulley munching can do that. Worth replacing both 
> in any case just as a regular maintenance item 
> 
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>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Did it actually break or just come off the pulleys?
>> 
>> I ask because I’m wondering if the idler pulley needs to be replaced.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Sep 7, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The serpentine belt just broke a mile or so from home. I managed to coast 
>>> back home mostly downhill with some short spurts where I drove the car 
>>> until it started getting hot. 
>>> Anyway, I might tackle it on my own as I did the alternator on that car 
>>> when I first got it and obviously the serpentine belt had to come off for 
>>> that. Question is why did it fail? It looks like I might not be able to 
>>> bring it to the Q dammit.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T serpentine belt

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Not sure.

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:54 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> 
> oh no. any misaligned or burrs on pulleys?
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 11:40 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> The serpentine belt just broke a mile or so from home. I managed to coast 
>> back home mostly downhill with some short spurts where I drove the car until 
>> it started getting hot. 
>> Anyway, I might tackle it on my own as I did the alternator on that car when 
>> I first got it and obviously the serpentine belt had to come off for that. 
>> Question is why did it fail? It looks like I might not be able to bring it 
>> to the Q dammit.
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T serpentine belt

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The belt is mince meat! The idler pulley (or tensioner pulley, are they the 
same?) is very stiff. I bet that’s what caused the belt to disintegrate. Is 
this easy to replace?

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Did it actually break or just come off the pulleys?
> 
> I ask because I’m wondering if the idler pulley needs to be replaced.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The serpentine belt just broke a mile or so from home. I managed to coast 
>> back home mostly downhill with some short spurts where I drove the car until 
>> it started getting hot. 
>> Anyway, I might tackle it on my own as I did the alternator on that car when 
>> I first got it and obviously the serpentine belt had to come off for that. 
>> Question is why did it fail? It looks like I might not be able to bring it 
>> to the Q dammit.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Two Mercedes Benz for one price! 1990 Mercedes-Benz 500 sel Sedan 4D, $1, 500

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Floyd is more entitled to it since he has fewer cars.

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> Okie Acres candidates fo sho.
>
> AZBob
>
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> > On Sep 7, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> >
> > The 560 could be a real sleeper if the transmission can be solved
> cheaply.
> > Did you run the VIN through Lastvin.com to see what options it has?
> >
> >> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 9:40 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> 560SEL and 300SEL.  The 560 looks fairly decent
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1038445404254913
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Two Mercedes Benz for one price! 1990 Mercedes-Benz 500 sel Sedan 4D, $1, 500

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Okie Acres candidates fo sho. 

AZBob

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> The 560 could be a real sleeper if the transmission can be solved cheaply.
> Did you run the VIN through Lastvin.com to see what options it has?
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 9:40 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 560SEL and 300SEL.  The 560 looks fairly decent
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1038445404254913
>> 
>> --
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Re: [MBZ] ML63 is ALIIIIIVE!!!!

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Yes he could do it if you have a DAS/Xentry system that is up to date and that 
he could do a remote session into. My system was out of date so I dropped it 
off to him and he was going to update the computer with new software but it 
needed a new larger hard drive and more memory. I ordered that stuff but the 
computer didn’t like the memory (2 types actually) so that didn’t work. So he 
loaned me one of his XENTRY machines which we used today. I have a good Wi-Fi 
signal out where it is parked. He accessed it with UltraViewer and basically 
just controlled it from his desk. Worked great. 

He has a lot of car images already in his systems but didn’t have this ML63 so 
had to download it. He did extract and copy what was in the car but wanted a 
clean updated install into the car so it is a 2023 version. 

It was questionable whether this “new” ISM could be programmed. Apparently some 
can’t but this one was able to take the new image for the car. Once it was done 
vehicle started right up and no more faults. 

So anyway a bit more mechanical work to do to get it driveable but nothing like 
messing with software and computers. 

--FT
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> So how did you go about getting this imagine? Is this something your buddy 
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>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Did a remote session with my buddy today to get the “new” ISM programmed. 
>> Took some gyrations, had to pay MB for a software image of the car as he 
>> didn’t have it for this kind of unique vehicle. $231 so not bad. Got it 
>> done, looks good, no faults, will get it installed back on the tranny 
>> tomorrow and everything else put back and go for a drive!  YAY!!!
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Two Mercedes Benz for one price! 1990 Mercedes-Benz 500 sel Sedan 4D, $1, 500

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The 560 could be a real sleeper if the transmission can be solved cheaply.
 Did you run the VIN through Lastvin.com to see what options it has?

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> 560SEL and 300SEL.  The 560 looks fairly decent
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1038445404254913
>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] ML63 is ALIIIIIVE!!!!

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On 2023-09-07 14:42, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

You have an ML63? Wow! I bet that is fun to drive!


He'll let you know if he ever gets it on the road.

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Re: [MBZ] ML63 is ALIIIIIVE!!!!

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So how did you go about getting this imagine? Is this something your buddy can 
do for some of us list folk?

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> Did a remote session with my buddy today to get the “new” ISM programmed. 
> Took some gyrations, had to pay MB for a software image of the car as he 
> didn’t have it for this kind of unique vehicle. $231 so not bad. Got it done, 
> looks good, no faults, will get it installed back on the tranny tomorrow and 
> everything else put back and go for a drive!  YAY!!!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] ML63 is ALIIIIIVE!!!!

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

You have an ML63? Wow! I bet that is fun to drive! 

Donald H. Snook


> On Sep 7, 2023, at 1:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail  
> wrote:
> 
> Did a remote session with my buddy today to get the “new” ISM programmed. 
> Took some gyrations, had to pay MB for a software image of the car as he 
> didn’t have it for this kind of unique vehicle. $231 so not bad. Got it done, 
> looks good, no faults, will get it installed back on the tranny tomorrow and 
> everything else put back and go for a drive!  YAY!!!
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
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Re: [MBZ] Luxury car storage

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Probably more convenient to just build it at home next to the pool.

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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I goofed the link … pretty great

[MG via Mercedes]

Hmm put an MB turbo 6 in there and an automatic 
and it might be worth driving. But then there are 
some rust problems here and there to take care of.


MG

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[MBZ] ML63 is ALIIIIIVE!!!!

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Did a remote session with my buddy today to get the “new” ISM programmed. Took 
some gyrations, had to pay MB for a software image of the car as he didn’t have 
it for this kind of unique vehicle. $231 so not bad. Got it done, looks good, 
no faults, will get it installed back on the tranny tomorrow and everything 
else put back and go for a drive!  YAY!!!

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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T serpentine belt

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Yeah an idler or tensioner pulley munching can do that. Worth replacing both in 
any case just as a regular maintenance item 

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> 
> Did it actually break or just come off the pulleys?
> 
> I ask because I’m wondering if the idler pulley needs to be replaced.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The serpentine belt just broke a mile or so from home. I managed to coast 
>> back home mostly downhill with some short spurts where I drove the car until 
>> it started getting hot. 
>> Anyway, I might tackle it on my own as I did the alternator on that car when 
>> I first got it and obviously the serpentine belt had to come off for that. 
>> Question is why did it fail? It looks like I might not be able to bring it 
>> to the Q dammit.
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Re: [MBZ] Leatherique

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For a really prestine car

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 11:36 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes. Prestine Clean and Rejuvenator.
> 
> Tell him I sent you and maybe he’ll cut you a deal. Or he’ll raise the price. 
> 😆
> 
> Clean, slather and bake.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2023, at 6:54 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My 124 has leather rather than MBTex. I’m a real fan of MBTex because it 
>> wears like iron. I suppose leather is an upgrade.  The seats are in great 
>> shape with hardly any creasing and no tears. But, the leather is not soft. 
>> It’s almost hard. It is very smooth and I don’t want (or need to) change the 
>> color.  
>> 
>> I have not ever used Leatherigue.  I don’t need to do the crack filler or 
>> sanding or the total restoration.  I want to soften and condition the 
>> leather.  I think a few folks on here have used it.  Is the two step package 
>> what I want?  It’s the Rejuvenator and the cleaner. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T serpentine belt

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oh no. any misaligned or burrs on pulleys?

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> The serpentine belt just broke a mile or so from home. I managed to coast
> back home mostly downhill with some short spurts where I drove the car
> until it started getting hot.
> Anyway, I might tackle it on my own as I did the alternator on that car
> when I first got it and obviously the serpentine belt had to come off for
> that. Question is why did it fail? It looks like I might not be able to
> bring it to the Q dammit.
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T serpentine belt

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Did it actually break or just come off the pulleys?

I ask because I’m wondering if the idler pulley needs to be replaced.

-D



> On Sep 7, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The serpentine belt just broke a mile or so from home. I managed to coast 
> back home mostly downhill with some short spurts where I drove the car until 
> it started getting hot. 
> Anyway, I might tackle it on my own as I did the alternator on that car when 
> I first got it and obviously the serpentine belt had to come off for that. 
> Question is why did it fail? It looks like I might not be able to bring it to 
> the Q dammit.
> 
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[MBZ] 300D 2.5T serpentine belt

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

The serpentine belt just broke a mile or so from home. I managed to coast back 
home mostly downhill with some short spurts where I drove the car until it 
started getting hot. 
Anyway, I might tackle it on my own as I did the alternator on that car when I 
first got it and obviously the serpentine belt had to come off for that. 
Question is why did it fail? It looks like I might not be able to bring it to 
the Q dammit.

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Re: [MBZ] Leatherique

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Yes. Prestine Clean and Rejuvenator.

Tell him I sent you and maybe he’ll cut you a deal. Or he’ll raise the price. 😆

Clean, slather and bake.

-D

> On Sep 7, 2023, at 6:54 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My 124 has leather rather than MBTex. I’m a real fan of MBTex because it 
> wears like iron. I suppose leather is an upgrade.  The seats are in great 
> shape with hardly any creasing and no tears. But, the leather is not soft. 
> It’s almost hard. It is very smooth and I don’t want (or need to) change the 
> color.  
> 
> I have not ever used Leatherigue.  I don’t need to do the crack filler or 
> sanding or the total restoration.  I want to soften and condition the 
> leather.  I think a few folks on here have used it.  Is the two step package 
> what I want?  It’s the Rejuvenator and the cleaner. 
> 
> Donald H. Snook
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Someone needs this

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https://www.google.com/maps/place/525+Maple+St,+Chetopa,+KS+67336/@36.8784556,-95.5293201,9.37z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x87b7fd3d6ab07367:0x5a0b5d43416c3422!8m2!3d37.0371252!4d-95.0897433!16s%2Fg%2F11c2qgx_b5?entry=ttu

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On 9/7/23 10:44 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Slight assembly required.
I'll take the truck parked in front.
Where is this place located?
I just found two suitcases full of drug money and need a place to launder
it... ;))

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Re: [MBZ] Someone needs this

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It's right close to Kleb.  He needs it.

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[G Mann via Mercedes]

Slight assembly required.
I'll take the truck parked in front.
Where is this place located?
I just found two suitcases full of drug money and need a place to launder
it... ;))

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[MBZ] Custom realtor spec -- Mercedes 560sel - $11,000 (Naples)

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When I bought the car, it drove perfectly, but I had some work done to 
get hoses, belts, and some other items refreshed. I have two receipts 
that show a lot of that initial work and it came out to $3,700. Besides 
that, I've replaced both fuel pumps, lowered the car, and added the 17" 
Lorinser wheels that are powder coated white. The exhaust has also been 
redone so it's quiet when cruising but if you accelerate hard you hear 
some feedback.  But I haven't spent any money on replacing the hood pad.


https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/cto/d/naples-mercedes-560sel/7662957359.html

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[MBZ] Buy Grandpa's car -- 2003 S430 Mercedes Benz - $10, 400 (Naples)

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odometer: *69830*

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[MBZ] Leatherique

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

My 124 has leather rather than MBTex. I’m a real fan of MBTex because it wears 
like iron. I suppose leather is an upgrade.  The seats are in great shape with 
hardly any creasing and no tears. But, the leather is not soft. It’s almost 
hard. It is very smooth and I don’t want (or need to) change the color.  

I have not ever used Leatherigue.  I don’t need to do the crack filler or 
sanding or the total restoration.  I want to soften and condition the leather.  
I think a few folks on here have used it.  Is the two step package what I want? 
 It’s the Rejuvenator and the cleaner. 

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[MBZ] Frash oil change 2003 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 500 Sedan 4D, $4, 600

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/251958101140987/

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[MBZ] Engine started knocking before and after oil change .2010 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 350 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $2, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Ran out of oil?  But I changed it in 2018!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/315997430940381

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[MBZ] timing chain needs to be looked at 2007 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 350 Sedan 4D, $1, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Another really nice one bites the dust

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/700246468794108

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[MBZ] Two Mercedes Benz for one price! 1990 Mercedes-Benz 500 sel Sedan 4D, $1, 500

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560SEL and 300SEL.  The 560 looks fairly decent


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Re: [MBZ] 124 Tires

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Michelin Defender in stock size. Your best bet. 

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> I watched a couple of Motorweek Retro Reviews (which I really like) and the 
> were reviewing the 124. The videos I watched were from 86, 90 and 92. In 
> them, Motorweek loved the 124, but was critical of the tires saying they were 
> too narrow and too soft.  
> 
> I’m wondering if I could upsize the tires on my 90 300E without changing the 
> wheels.  I don’t need or want to put stupid-big wheels or tires on it. But, 
> maybe just a slight increase. The current size is 195/65/15.  I tried a few 
> online calculators and I think the 6.5J wheel will allow a tire up to 215. 
> 
> I found some 205/65/15 that would likely work. According to the calculators, 
> it’s a pretty small difference. 
> 
> Am I wasting my time? Is that small of an increase going to make any 
> difference?   I don’t drive aggressively.  My one issue with the current 
> tires is they are Michelin Premiere a/s which are good tires but they tend to 
> wear quickly.  I have had them on other vehicles and they were comfortable 
> and quiet, but the lifetime is about half of many other Michelin. 
> 
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Very cool
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I goofed the link … pretty great

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Awesome!

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[MBZ] Maybe I goofed the link … pretty great

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