Re: [MBZ] For All You B-70 Fans

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 20:58:56 -0400 mitch--- via Mercedes
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> Was there ever a more expensive photo op than this one?
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCORwUxlNQo

Most likely not.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Actual fuel economy on a 2014 E250 BlueTEC

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

My Jetta seems to be 3-4% generous on the dash, pretty close. The 2018 RAM 1500 
is more like 10%.
When I took the Jetta to Caribou in August I did just over 700 miles on a tank. 
From Portland north until I95 stopped I was running 85-90mph consistently. 
North of Bangor I never went under 90. 49mpg at that speed...
Curt

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  On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 4:21 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes 
wrote:   On 2023-09-22 15:58, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> For an entire tank's worth of driving (565 miles, e.g.) the actual
> consumption pretty much exactly matches the computer calculation.

That's good.
In my red Cruze 50.1 on the dash was 47.7 on the calculator.
Only time I ever went 600 miles in a car with a 13 gallon tank.
I think all three of my Mom's Malibus were at least as optimistic.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: 20kW Cummins genset never used - $20,000

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Maybe 10 years ago I very nearly bought a lister. It was the big one, 16hp? 2 
cylinder, it sold cheap, the guy needed it gone.At the time I didn't have a 
building to keep it in or even a loader to get it off the trailer with, 
assuming my snowmobile trailer would have handled it.
These days I'd love to have one. We ran the AC a bunch at camp last summer, a 
lister would have been quieter and just more pleasant to listen to.
Curt

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  On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 11:56 PM, Randy Bennell via 
Mercedes wrote:   Many of you folks are diesel buffs. 
You should be looking at Listers.

Randy


On 22/09/2023 3:31 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
>> They don’t, and I can say that without even looking. If it’s branded as a 
>> Cummins (gas) engine, it’s most likely brand-labeled from another 
>> manufacturer. That’s like my Kohler standby set saying it's got a Kohler 
>> engine in it when it’s clearly a Toyota industrial engine and is branded 
>> accordingly. They all do it.
> I think Cummins and Onan are tied at the hip, for example.
>
> My 1965 Kohler has a Hercules engine in it.  This is nothing new.
>
>>> You can buy a brand-new Kohler 20kW set at Home Depot for under $6k.
> Those are light-duty 3,600 RPM units.  That 'Cummins' is 1,800 RPM, a whole 
> different animal.
> It's also 3-phase, which might make it a bit hard to use for your house.  
> (You can wire them
> zig-zag for single-phase, but you lose rated capacity if you do.  That's what 
> I've done with
> Big Bertha, there's no good way for me to _use_ the full 45kW it can put out. 
>  I currently can't
> even use all that it'll put out when wired zig-zag, due to the house wiring.)
>
> While that particular unit appears not to be warranted for indefinite hours 
> of operation, the
> physical unit might be more-or-less the same as one that is.  (And which 
> costs more, but
> that cost might only be warrantee coverage.)
>
> It's likely to be considerably quieter, both due to a better enclosure and 
> the halved RPM.
>
> It's a lovely genny, which I would be happy to own.  It's considerably newer 
> than my 1965
> unit, and smaller so its base fuel consumption has got to be better that what 
> I have.
> I, however, am unwilling to pay for it.  Especially since I've already got 
> Big Bertha.
> The $19,000 difference buys a _lot_ of propane!
>
> -- Jim
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[MBZ] 2023 concours d'lemons

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Re: [MBZ] GL320CDI/GL320(350) Bluetec?

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Todd’s in Columbia SC. He’s trying to figure out the ML63. I’ve been to his 
shop a coupla times while we mess with it. Last week he had his Russian buddy 
in Moscow doing a remote session on it. Monday I got a new chinee ISM for it 
which he programmed. Tomorrow I’ll get it moved closer to his shop on the 
trailer so he can get Wi-Fi and hook up his Xentry computer to it and see if it 
might work. Probably not, there might be a wiring issue. The Russian guy tried 
some workarounds through the CGW but no joy. 

Anyway he has this GL sitting there he wants to unload. $5k plus like $150 for 
chain and fluid and should be good to go. I’m warming to the GL and of course a 
diesel has some appeal. But maybe I’m stupid but that’s never stopped me 
before. 

--FT
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> On Sep 22, 2023, at 9:26 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Todd and Van billed 15.5 hours of labor on it?
> Was it in Wisconsin?
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[MBZ] Tales of two 123s at opposite ends of spectrum

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https://youtu.be/fi43skOpk-k?si=oCpUaF_3U7rVnBGN



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Re: [MBZ] GL320CDI/GL320(350) Bluetec?

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Todd and Van billed 15.5 hours of labor on it?
Was it in Wisconsin?

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Re: [MBZ] Actual fuel economy on a 2014 E250 BlueTEC

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2023-09-22 15:58, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

For an entire tank's worth of driving (565 miles, e.g.) the actual
consumption pretty much exactly matches the computer calculation.


That's good.
In my red Cruze 50.1 on the dash was 47.7 on the calculator.
Only time I ever went 600 miles in a car with a 13 gallon tank.
I think all three of my Mom's Malibus were at least as optimistic.

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Re: [MBZ] GL320CDI/GL320(350) Bluetec?

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Well if it’s after 2008 it’s going to have DEF, which can be a big problem. 

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> On Sep 22, 2023, at 7:56 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I’ll see the car tomorrow and can try to figure out what exactly it 
> is. It would be great if it was the newer version with moah powah but that 
> one might not have come along until 2010 sometime. 
> 
> --FT
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>> On Sep 22, 2023, at 8:47 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Engine no.:642820 40 840224
>> Major assembly variant: A 642 010 21 47
>> 
>> I thought I could look up the 642.820 spec, but found two versions like you 
>> did,
>> 204PS (less than 204HP) and 231PS.
>> 
>> They say the 204 is badged 300CDI (in Europe anyway) and the 231 is 350CDI.
>> 
>> https://en.mercedesclub.cz/engine_detail.php?id=1
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Re: [MBZ] GL320CDI/GL320(350) Bluetec?

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2023-09-22 20:55, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
Thanks. I’ll see the car tomorrow and can try to figure out what 
exactly it is. It would be great if it was the newer version with moah 
powah but that one might not have come along until 2010 sometime.


Reminds me of October 2001, when a friend of mine bought a brand new 13 
month old 2001 F250. I was expecting the 275hp engine, but when I saw it 
was built in 2000 I knew it was 235hp.


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Re: [MBZ] For All You B-70 Fans

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Was there ever a more expensive photo op than this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCORwUxlNQo

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Re: [MBZ] GL320CDI/GL320(350) Bluetec?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Thanks. I’ll see the car tomorrow and can try to figure out what exactly it is. 
It would be great if it was the newer version with moah powah but that one 
might not have come along until 2010 sometime. 

--FT
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> On Sep 22, 2023, at 8:47 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Engine no.:642820 40 840224
> Major assembly variant: A 642 010 21 47
> 
> I thought I could look up the 642.820 spec, but found two versions like you 
> did,
> 204PS (less than 204HP) and 231PS.
> 
> They say the 204 is badged 300CDI (in Europe anyway) and the 231 is 350CDI.
> 
> https://en.mercedesclub.cz/engine_detail.php?id=1
> 
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Re: [MBZ] GL320CDI/GL320(350) Bluetec?

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Engine no.:642820 40 840224
Major assembly variant: A 642 010 21 47

I thought I could look up the 642.820 spec, but found two versions like 
you did,

204PS (less than 204HP) and 231PS.

They say the 204 is badged 300CDI (in Europe anyway) and the 231 is 
350CDI.


https://en.mercedesclub.cz/engine_detail.php?id=1

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Re: [MBZ] Meh

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Front seats trashed 

--FT
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> On Sep 22, 2023, at 7:36 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/sarasota-2005-mercedes-benz-class-320/7668979521.html
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] For All You B-70 Fans

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That’s amazing. This airplane was most responsible for the end of the cold war 
and Soviet regime. Scared the shite out of the komrads. They had nothing that 
could compete and trying to do so would have bankrupted them (more than they 
already were). 

It would have been very cool to see the variants built. When fuel was a quarter 
a gallon it made a lot more sense though. Those supersonic turbojets sucked 
prodigious quantities of Jet A (or variant). 

--FT
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> On Sep 22, 2023, at 7:57 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> 
> [b-70-top.jpeg]
> All The Crazy Proposed Variants Of The B-70 Valkyrie Super 
> Bomber
> thedrive.com
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 4Matic AWD Leather Sunroof!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Not an unrealistic price but a good starting point 

--FT
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> On Sep 22, 2023, at 7:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow! Now THAT’S a lot of options!
> 
> 
> [00w0w_3bM96B5lkHv_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
> 2008 mercedes benz e350 for sale by owner - Tampa, FL - 
> craigslist
> tampa.craigslist.org
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Warp power restored

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Exactly. Looking forward to report 

--FT
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> On Sep 22, 2023, at 7:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Stronger work ahead it appears. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 22, 2023, at 6:13 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Strong work. Good times. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Sep 22, 2023, at 5:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I put the cleaned out DPF back on the car and reset it in SDS. I then 
>>> hosed down the engine with degreaser and power washed the crap out of it. 
>>> Took the car for a spin and what a massive difference in power. It just 
>>> seemed before the have as much power as the GL. Now it’s night and day 
>>> different. Took it for a mile and back, then idling in the driveway for 
>>> about a minute I have a good side oil spot. I can clearly see it running 
>>> down the side of the transmission bell housing on the drivers side. I guess 
>>> it’s oil cooler time. I’m going to go ahead and get the parts ordered. It 
>>> will he good to learn on this 211 because I need to do the job on the 251. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] 4Matic AWD Leather Sunroof!

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Wow! Now THAT’S a lot of options!


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[MBZ] For All You B-70 Fans

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Enjoy!


[b-70-top.jpeg]
All The Crazy Proposed Variants Of The B-70 Valkyrie Super 
Bomber
thedrive.com

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Warp power restored

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Stronger work ahead it appears. 

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> On Sep 22, 2023, at 6:13 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Strong work. Good times. 
> 
> --FT
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>> On Sep 22, 2023, at 5:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I put the cleaned out DPF back on the car and reset it in SDS. I then hosed 
>> down the engine with degreaser and power washed the crap out of it. Took the 
>> car for a spin and what a massive difference in power. It just seemed before 
>> the have as much power as the GL. Now it’s night and day different. Took it 
>> for a mile and back, then idling in the driveway for about a minute I have a 
>> good side oil spot. I can clearly see it running down the side of the 
>> transmission bell housing on the drivers side. I guess it’s oil cooler time. 
>> I’m going to go ahead and get the parts ordered. It will he good to learn on 
>> this 211 because I need to do the job on the 251. 
>> 
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[MBZ] Meh

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Re: [MBZ] Warp power restored

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Strong work. Good times. 

--FT
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> On Sep 22, 2023, at 5:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I put the cleaned out DPF back on the car and reset it in SDS. I then hosed 
> down the engine with degreaser and power washed the crap out of it. Took the 
> car for a spin and what a massive difference in power. It just seemed before 
> the have as much power as the GL. Now it’s night and day different. Took it 
> for a mile and back, then idling in the driveway for about a minute I have a 
> good side oil spot. I can clearly see it running down the side of the 
> transmission bell housing on the drivers side. I guess it’s oil cooler time. 
> I’m going to go ahead and get the parts ordered. It will he good to learn on 
> this 211 because I need to do the job on the 251. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: 20kW Cummins genset never used - $20,000

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I forgot John Deere…

Kohler used Lister and Petter engines, but mainly Listers. Single and 
two-cylinder air-cooled diesels. The 240D of the small generator business. Even 
had a hand crank and compression release for starting when you had no battery 
to exciter crank the unit.

I worked on a project where a signboard company used Petter diesels to run an 
automotive alternator to charge 12VDC batteries. These things ran continuously 
and would do so for thousands of hours. When they wore out the engine was sent 
in and a new one was provided with a core charge of sorts, and off they went 
with their signboard for another many thousand hours. We had to return the 
worn-out engines to Petter to get credit for them. We would fill a couple half 
half-height pallets of them during the peak (summer) construction season to 
return to Petter.

-D

> On Sep 22, 2023, at 5:41 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Many of you folks are diesel buffs. You should be looking at Listers.
> 
> If I could find a nice Lister(oid) CS engine I'd really consider finishing
> the genset project of my dreams.  I have a nice MD-3 generator, VERY
> large and heavy, that could be driven by it.  Both 60Hz and 400Hz 3-phase
> windings, the 400Hz side could drive a rectifier array feeding a 48V
> battery bank, feeding the large FerrUPS I have.  Making a CS drive
> a 1,200 RPM generator is the trickiest bit.  The MD-3 is more than
> capable of providing electric start to the CS, with a fair bit of work
> on the command-and-control side.
> 
> Power could be off for weeks at a time and I wouldn't care.  Fuel
> efficiency of the low-RPM CS engines is unmatched.  Power quality
> (through the FerrUPS) would be unbeatable.  Diesel fuel stores
> indefinitely.  CS engines are quiet.  What they are _not_ is mobile,
> but neither are MD-3's and FerrUPS inverters!
> 
> The MD-3 is to my Kohler generator, as my Kohler is to the rope-pull
> Generac.  Makes the Kohler look like a toy.  I love Mil-spec gear!
> 
> And, for the high-power days when 5-6kW won't cut it, there's always
> Big Bertha.
> 
> -- Jim
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[MBZ] Warp power restored

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I put the cleaned out DPF back on the car and reset it in SDS. I then hosed 
down the engine with degreaser and power washed the crap out of it. Took the 
car for a spin and what a massive difference in power. It just seemed before 
the have as much power as the GL. Now it’s night and day different. Took it for 
a mile and back, then idling in the driveway for about a minute I have a good 
side oil spot. I can clearly see it running down the side of the transmission 
bell housing on the drivers side. I guess it’s oil cooler time. I’m going to go 
ahead and get the parts ordered. It will he good to learn on this 211 because I 
need to do the job on the 251. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: 20kW Cummins genset never used - $20,000

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> Many of you folks are diesel buffs. You should be looking at Listers.

If I could find a nice Lister(oid) CS engine I'd really consider finishing
the genset project of my dreams.  I have a nice MD-3 generator, VERY
large and heavy, that could be driven by it.  Both 60Hz and 400Hz 3-phase
windings, the 400Hz side could drive a rectifier array feeding a 48V
battery bank, feeding the large FerrUPS I have.  Making a CS drive
a 1,200 RPM generator is the trickiest bit.  The MD-3 is more than
capable of providing electric start to the CS, with a fair bit of work
on the command-and-control side.

Power could be off for weeks at a time and I wouldn't care.  Fuel
efficiency of the low-RPM CS engines is unmatched.  Power quality
(through the FerrUPS) would be unbeatable.  Diesel fuel stores
indefinitely.  CS engines are quiet.  What they are _not_ is mobile,
but neither are MD-3's and FerrUPS inverters!

The MD-3 is to my Kohler generator, as my Kohler is to the rope-pull
Generac.  Makes the Kohler look like a toy.  I love Mil-spec gear!

And, for the high-power days when 5-6kW won't cut it, there's always
Big Bertha.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] GL320CDI/GL320(350) Bluetec?

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> It appears to have 398 (or maybe 457) lb-ft torque which will be good for 
> towing.

That is roughly what my Dodge Cummins and V10 trucks are rated at.
Yes, they tow nicely.  When new they were the class leaders.

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[MBZ] GL320CDI/GL320(350) Bluetec?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I am going to check out this vehicle tomorrow.  Lot of work done to it 
but still needs a transfer case chain ($100 part). He has $5k of work 
and parts into it and just wants to make it back. I think it has about 
160/180kmi on it if I recall.


I'm a little confused on these different engines.  This is a late 09 
build and is probably a 10 model so it has the "new" engine with 
Bluetec, a 350 designation maybe, I 'm not sure.  I thought it was a 
320CDI when I looked at it briefly, but who knows how it switched over 
or if there is rebadging.  I guess that happened for 2010 model year. Or 
maybe it is a 320 Bluetec.  It appears to be all the same engine but 
with Bluetec added to the CDI version.  Whatever.  It appears to have 
398 (or maybe 457) ftlb torks which will be good for towing.


There are 2 versions of the engine OM642 DE30 and OM642 LS DE30 with 
lots more power/torque.  I can't tell which this one has.



 Diesel engines

Model   Years   Engine  Power   Torque  0–100 km/h (0-62 mph)
GL320 CDI 	2006–2009 	OM642 DE30 

3.0 L V6  turbo 
 	165 kW (221 hp)

@ 3,800 rpm 510 N⋅m (376 lb⋅ft)
@ 1,600–2,800 rpm   9.5 s
GL350 CDI   2009135 kW (181 hp)
@ 5,000–6,250 rpm   320 N⋅m (236 lb⋅ft)
@ 1,750–2,000 rpm
2010–2012 	OM642 LS DE30 

3.0 L V6  turbo 
 	195 kW (261 hp)

@ 3,800 rpm 620 N⋅m (457 lb⋅ft)
@ 1,600–2,400 rpm   7.9 s
GL350 BlueTEC 	2009–2012 	OM642 DE30 

3.0 L V6  turbo 
 	155 kW (208 hp)

@ 3,400 rpm 540 N⋅m (398 lb⋅ft)
@ 1,600–2,400 rpm   10.7 s

"For 2009, the GL320 Bluetec model replaced the GL320 CDI, boasting 
cleaner emissions that allowed it to be 50-state legal."


Originally came with run-flats too so no spare but I guess that could be 
retrofitted.


https://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_DatacardAction.php?lang=E=4jgbf25e29a525409 
says it's a GL320 CDI/GL350 BlueTEC 4MATIC 164.825


*Delivery date:* 12 05 2009

M30 - DISPLACEMENT 3.0 LITER
M642 - V6 DIESEL ENGINE OM642

474 - DIESEL PARTICULATE FILTER

U41 - FUEL - WATER SEPARATOR AND LUBRICATION PACKAGE
U42 - DIESEL EXHAUST TREATMENT BLUETEC SCR GENERATION 1

So I guess it is really a GL350 though the same 3.0 liter engine but 
with pee juice.


07 and 08 are CDI (no urea and have a spare)
09 and up are Bluetech and have urea and no spare.

Kaleb just finished the DPF so I guess his is basically the same engine

Looking up info I did find Kleb's Hoovie GL 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfjZEaY9T7k


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Re: [MBZ] OT: 20kW Cummins genset never used - $20,000

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Onan was purchased/acquired by Cummins back in the late 1980s/early 90s. They 
haven’t existed other than as a brand name since.

Kohler used all sorts of industrial engines over the years:

International Harvester
Hercules
White-Hercules
Continental
Lister
Petter
Wisconsin
Ford
Chevrolet
Cummins
Detroit Diesel
Mitsubishi
Toyota

I’m sure there are others I missed, but those are the ones I can recall off the 
top of my head. And those don’t include the smaller engines that *were* built 
by Kohler, including their flat-head water-cooled four-cylinder L600 and L654 
engines that powered up to 7.5kW generators. Do you remember those little 
yellow utility trailers the telephone company vans used to pull around behind 
them? Every one of those had a Kohler 7.5R27 in it with one of those engines. 
It provided power, lighting, and air through a blower along with heat for that 
air via a heat exchanger that scavenged heat from engine coolant. They were 
used primarily for manhole work.

And yes, it’s a deal because what I said and Jim said as well - it’s a 
commercial-grade unit, not a consumer-grade unit. It runs at 1800 RPM and is a 
12-lead machine, capable of producing either single or three-phase power.

It’s smaller than my Kohler unit, which is 24kW but is an 1800 RPM set also.

-D

> On Sep 22, 2023, at 4:31 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
>> They don’t, and I can say that without even looking. If it’s branded as a 
>> Cummins (gas) engine, it’s most likely brand-labeled from another 
>> manufacturer. That’s like my Kohler standby set saying it's got a Kohler 
>> engine in it when it’s clearly a Toyota industrial engine and is branded 
>> accordingly. They all do it.
> 
> I think Cummins and Onan are tied at the hip, for example.
> 
> My 1965 Kohler has a Hercules engine in it.  This is nothing new.
> 
>>> You can buy a brand-new Kohler 20kW set at Home Depot for under $6k.
> 
> Those are light-duty 3,600 RPM units.  That 'Cummins' is 1,800 RPM, a whole 
> different animal.
> It's also 3-phase, which might make it a bit hard to use for your house.  
> (You can wire them
> zig-zag for single-phase, but you lose rated capacity if you do.  That's what 
> I've done with
> Big Bertha, there's no good way for me to _use_ the full 45kW it can put out. 
>  I currently can't
> even use all that it'll put out when wired zig-zag, due to the house wiring.)
> 
> While that particular unit appears not to be warranted for indefinite hours 
> of operation, the
> physical unit might be more-or-less the same as one that is.  (And which 
> costs more, but
> that cost might only be warrantee coverage.)
> 
> It's likely to be considerably quieter, both due to a better enclosure and 
> the halved RPM.
> 
> It's a lovely genny, which I would be happy to own.  It's considerably newer 
> than my 1965
> unit, and smaller so its base fuel consumption has got to be better that what 
> I have.
> I, however, am unwilling to pay for it.  Especially since I've already got 
> Big Bertha.
> The $19,000 difference buys a _lot_ of propane!
> 
> -- Jim
> 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: 20kW Cummins genset never used - $20,000

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Many of you folks are diesel buffs. You should be looking at Listers.

Randy


On 22/09/2023 3:31 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

They don’t, and I can say that without even looking. If it’s branded as a 
Cummins (gas) engine, it’s most likely brand-labeled from another manufacturer. 
That’s like my Kohler standby set saying it's got a Kohler engine in it when 
it’s clearly a Toyota industrial engine and is branded accordingly. They all do 
it.

I think Cummins and Onan are tied at the hip, for example.

My 1965 Kohler has a Hercules engine in it.  This is nothing new.


You can buy a brand-new Kohler 20kW set at Home Depot for under $6k.

Those are light-duty 3,600 RPM units.  That 'Cummins' is 1,800 RPM, a whole 
different animal.
It's also 3-phase, which might make it a bit hard to use for your house.  (You 
can wire them
zig-zag for single-phase, but you lose rated capacity if you do.  That's what 
I've done with
Big Bertha, there's no good way for me to _use_ the full 45kW it can put out.  
I currently can't
even use all that it'll put out when wired zig-zag, due to the house wiring.)

While that particular unit appears not to be warranted for indefinite hours of 
operation, the
physical unit might be more-or-less the same as one that is.  (And which costs 
more, but
that cost might only be warrantee coverage.)

It's likely to be considerably quieter, both due to a better enclosure and the 
halved RPM.

It's a lovely genny, which I would be happy to own.  It's considerably newer 
than my 1965
unit, and smaller so its base fuel consumption has got to be better that what I 
have.
I, however, am unwilling to pay for it.  Especially since I've already got Big 
Bertha.
The $19,000 difference buys a _lot_ of propane!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: 20kW Cummins genset never used - $20,000

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> They don’t, and I can say that without even looking. If it’s branded as a 
> Cummins (gas) engine, it’s most likely brand-labeled from another 
> manufacturer. That’s like my Kohler standby set saying it's got a Kohler 
> engine in it when it’s clearly a Toyota industrial engine and is branded 
> accordingly. They all do it.

I think Cummins and Onan are tied at the hip, for example.

My 1965 Kohler has a Hercules engine in it.  This is nothing new.

>> You can buy a brand-new Kohler 20kW set at Home Depot for under $6k.

Those are light-duty 3,600 RPM units.  That 'Cummins' is 1,800 RPM, a whole 
different animal.
It's also 3-phase, which might make it a bit hard to use for your house.  (You 
can wire them
zig-zag for single-phase, but you lose rated capacity if you do.  That's what 
I've done with
Big Bertha, there's no good way for me to _use_ the full 45kW it can put out.  
I currently can't
even use all that it'll put out when wired zig-zag, due to the house wiring.)

While that particular unit appears not to be warranted for indefinite hours of 
operation, the
physical unit might be more-or-less the same as one that is.  (And which costs 
more, but
that cost might only be warrantee coverage.)

It's likely to be considerably quieter, both due to a better enclosure and the 
halved RPM.

It's a lovely genny, which I would be happy to own.  It's considerably newer 
than my 1965
unit, and smaller so its base fuel consumption has got to be better that what I 
have.
I, however, am unwilling to pay for it.  Especially since I've already got Big 
Bertha.
The $19,000 difference buys a _lot_ of propane!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Actual fuel economy on a 2014 E250 BlueTEC

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

For an entire tank's worth of driving (565 miles, e.g.) the actual
consumption pretty much exactly matches the computer calculation.

On Fri, Sep 22, 2023 at 3:52 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The mileage tracker in the GL450 is reasonably accurate although I'm not
> sure exactly how it tracks it.  It seems to know when the tank gets
> filled and will calculate from that point, plus from when it was
> started, more or less, and I think there is another choice as well.
>
> --FT
>
> On 9/22/23 3:38 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > Agreed. I would be interested to see some linear records for fuel
> consumption and miles driven. There’s been an interesting discussion on
> another list regarding the fuel economy numbers that a W211 diesel gives
> out. They’re wildly inaccurate compared to pencil and paper records. There
> is a provision for adjustments in DAS for some cars, I can’t recall if the
> W211 was one of them.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Sep 22, 2023, at 3:32 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 19/09/2023 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> No lying.
> >>>
> >>> ___
> >> Interesting but relying upon the computer to calculate mileage likely
> is not quite so accurate as the old way where you do the manual
> calculations.
> >>
> >> Randy
> >>
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[MBZ] YOU KNOW HOW MUSH ITS WORTH 2013 Mercedes-Benz cls-class CLS 63 AMG Coupe 4D, $29, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Actual fuel economy on a 2014 E250 BlueTEC

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The mileage tracker in the GL450 is reasonably accurate although I'm not 
sure exactly how it tracks it.  It seems to know when the tank gets 
filled and will calculate from that point, plus from when it was 
started, more or less, and I think there is another choice as well.


--FT

On 9/22/23 3:38 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Agreed. I would be interested to see some linear records for fuel consumption 
and miles driven. There’s been an interesting discussion on another list 
regarding the fuel economy numbers that a W211 diesel gives out. They’re wildly 
inaccurate compared to pencil and paper records. There is a provision for 
adjustments in DAS for some cars, I can’t recall if the W211 was one of them.

-D


On Sep 22, 2023, at 3:32 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:

On 19/09/2023 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

No lying.

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Interesting but relying upon the computer to calculate mileage likely is not 
quite so accurate as the old way where you do the manual calculations.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Actual fuel economy on a 2014 E250 BlueTEC

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Agreed. I would be interested to see some linear records for fuel consumption 
and miles driven. There’s been an interesting discussion on another list 
regarding the fuel economy numbers that a W211 diesel gives out. They’re wildly 
inaccurate compared to pencil and paper records. There is a provision for 
adjustments in DAS for some cars, I can’t recall if the W211 was one of them.

-D

> On Sep 22, 2023, at 3:32 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 19/09/2023 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> No lying.
>> 
>> ___
> 
> Interesting but relying upon the computer to calculate mileage likely is not 
> quite so accurate as the old way where you do the manual calculations.
> 
> Randy
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Actual fuel economy on a 2014 E250 BlueTEC

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 19/09/2023 9:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

No lying.

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Interesting but relying upon the computer to calculate mileage likely is 
not quite so accurate as the old way where you do the manual calculations.


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Re: [MBZ] What Punctuation?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Cheap class with banged up dented good in front and hood tires no thanks not 
for me

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> On Sep 22, 2023, at 1:14 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> 
> 
> [00q0q_9OFFZWwajWb_0dp0t2_600x450.jpg]
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> craigslist
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Re: [MBZ] OT: 20kW Cummins genset never used - $20,000

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

They don’t, and I can say that without even looking. If it’s branded as a 
Cummins (gas) engine, it’s most likely brand-labeled from another manufacturer. 
That’s like my Kohler standby set saying it's got a Kohler engine in it when 
it’s clearly a Toyota industrial engine and is branded accordingly. They all do 
it.

Price-wise, with the 200A ATS it’s not far off for a commercial model - it was 
probably around $25k new. It’s quite possible that it’s retained full warranty 
status as it’s yet to be put into service. You would have to pay a Cummins 
distributor or dealer to do the commissioning, but at least you would get a 
full warranty on it then.

-D

> On Sep 22, 2023, at 1:13 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I never knew Cummins made spark-ignition engines. Also seems to be extremely 
> expensive for a 20kW unit? You can buy a brand-new Kohler 20kW set at Home 
> Depot for under $6k.
> 
> Though this one appears to be a 3-phase rig with industrial transfer switch, 
> so not designed or priced for the consumer market.
> 
> https://southbend.craigslist.org/for/d/south-bend-20kw-natural-gas-cummins/7658324173.html
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[MBZ] OT: 20kW Cummins genset never used - $20,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I never knew Cummins made spark-ignition engines. Also seems to be extremely 
expensive for a 20kW unit? You can buy a brand-new Kohler 20kW set at Home 
Depot for under $6k.

Though this one appears to be a 3-phase rig with industrial transfer switch, so 
not designed or priced for the consumer market.

https://southbend.craigslist.org/for/d/south-bend-20kw-natural-gas-cummins/7658324173.html


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[MBZ] What Punctuation?

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

[00q0q_9OFFZWwajWb_0dp0t2_600x450.jpg]
2007 mercedes benz for sale by owner - Deland, FL - 
craigslist
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car??

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That actually looks pretty decent. new pump is maybe $150 and easy to swap. 
Wheels are worth a goodly amount. Might be a good LOBALL candidate 

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> On Sep 22, 2023, at 12:13 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> 
> [00101_C1S5Gn7h3F_0t20CI_600x450.jpg]
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Re: [MBZ] Actual fuel economy on a 2014 E250 BlueTEC

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I got my '85 190D 2.2l 5spd to 43mpg a couple times. The auto maxed out at 38.
That was a personal best for me until I got my first Jetta. Both the '98 and 
'15 Jettas will easily do over 50mpg.
Angie's Golf will do high 40s.
Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   I would believe it on a 250. People 
claim their CDI or even 60x powered vehicles get that sort of mileage. 

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> On Sep 21, 2023, at 7:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> No lying.
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[MBZ] Kleb Car??

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

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2001 mercedes benz s430 for sale by owner - Sarasota, FL - 
craigslist
sarasota.craigslist.org

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[MBZ] OT This is kinda cool -- 2010 Aston Martin rapide,$53,000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

FODO Aston.  MS STYLZ

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/851653283193531

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[MBZ] Beater wagon -- 1999 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 320 Wagon 4D, $1, 750

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Here we have a 99 E-Class station wagon Mercedes V6 motor and 
transmission run great tires are decent the spare is on the rear because 
the one tire is flat but the rim is inside basically a parts car I don't 
know much about it I just know it runs good the tranny runs good and the 
motor runs good seems like wiring issues with the lights and stuff so 
like I say again it's only for parts I do have a clean title on hand 
1750 cash or trade open to offers no low ballers lot of great parts you 
must take the whole ca


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/694138082188563/

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[MBZ] it’s only 35,000 miles 2003 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 500 Sedan 4D,$13,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

3X the going rate for a decent example might be a bit ambitious but it 
does look very nice except for the thumper in the trunk


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1260267331354203

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Re: [MBZ] Actual fuel economy on a 2014 E250 BlueTEC

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Notice the difference in average speeds.
It appears that you get 1/4 more mpg when driving down the freeway from 
the gas station than you do in your overall driving.


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[MBZ] Mercedes has 3 different e’s that all sound different

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/comments/16kn9wd/mercedes_has_3_different_es_that_all_sound/ 



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Re: [MBZ] Gorgeous green 450SE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

DONT ASK IF ITS STILL AVAILABLE IF THE ADD IS UP IT IS STILL AVAILABLE 
DONT WASTE MY TIME


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On 9/22/23 8:07 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Considering the listing is 15 weeks old, I’m doubting very much that this car 
is still on the market. depending on the miles, which don’t seem to be stated 
anywhere, it’s not a bad deal.

I had to chuckle when I saw the rusty muffler. This is a very common failure in 
the older models’ mufflers, especially for cars that aren’t driven much. Water 
collects at that rear seam on the bottom and it eventually rusts out. Whenever 
I had a car like this I always drilled a small (1/8”) hole in the bottom of the 
muffler right at the seam. It lets condensation drip out so the muffler doesn’t 
rust out in that area.

-D


On Sep 21, 2023, at 11:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:

Near Baltimore.  Might be worth restoring at a lower price.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/243265191657609/
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Re: [MBZ] Actual fuel economy on a 2014 E250 BlueTEC

[MG via Mercedes]

You have a 17mi downhill with no traffic lights 
from where you fill up? ;-)


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

It seems to get the highest fuel economy immediately after I fill the
tank.  What is the explanation?

On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 8:42 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I would believe it on a 250. People claim their CDI or even 60x powered
vehicles get that sort of mileage.

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 21, 2023, at 7:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

No lying.
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Re: [MBZ] Gorgeous green 450SE

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Considering the listing is 15 weeks old, I’m doubting very much that this car 
is still on the market. depending on the miles, which don’t seem to be stated 
anywhere, it’s not a bad deal.

I had to chuckle when I saw the rusty muffler. This is a very common failure in 
the older models’ mufflers, especially for cars that aren’t driven much. Water 
collects at that rear seam on the bottom and it eventually rusts out. Whenever 
I had a car like this I always drilled a small (1/8”) hole in the bottom of the 
muffler right at the seam. It lets condensation drip out so the muffler doesn’t 
rust out in that area.

-D

> On Sep 21, 2023, at 11:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Near Baltimore.  Might be worth restoring at a lower price.
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/243265191657609/
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