[MBZ] 2000 Mercedes-Benz c-class C 280 Sedan 4D $2,000

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Mildly burritoed driver's seat, but otherwise...

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/863314935342642

Runs and drives good no issues with it but the interior is a little rough
the paint is faded on the roof and trunk a few scratches and scuffs and the
passenger side mirror is tapped on but it blends in good as you can see in
the picture and the odometer doesn’t work but I think it’s between 185k to
200k miles otherwise it’s a good car 2,000 obo
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[MBZ] An actual million mile Mercedes (Sprinter)

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Well, nearly. Looks pretty good if that's true.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/d/harwood-heights-2015-mercedes-sprinter/7697218870.html
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Re: [MBZ] 1970 MerCedeS 280 SL

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Run it up to Mitzi's Mercedes in the Valley.  They do good work.
https://www.yellowpages.com/canoga-park-ca/mip/mercedes-mitzis-3165525

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> Is this in anyone’s wheelhouse?
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Re: [MBZ] 1970 MerCedeS 280 SL

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As Curley of Three Stooges fame would say, "The noive!".

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[MBZ] 2003 Mercedes ML 500 SUV

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https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/d/fontana-2003-mercedes-ml-500-suv/7697097764.htmlSent from Mail for Windows Not ridiculous….for these times. AZBob 

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[MBZ] 1970 MerCedeS 280 SL

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Is this in anyone’s wheelhouse? https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/d/culver-city-1970-mercedes-280-sl/7697129078.htmlSent from Mail for Windows AZBob 

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Re: [MBZ] Different Looking ML

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Yes, it was Floyd. He is the go-to guy for the straight dope on these. 

AZBob

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> On Dec 12, 2023, at 3:12 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> 
> A couple of questions:
> 
> 1.) Are those current photos?
> 
> 2.) What “ECU”?
> 
> If they’re talking about the engine computer, I would check with Floyd, but I 
> recall these being pretty cheap used. I haven’t dealt with W163s that deeply, 
> so I’m not sure if the ECU has to be version-coded, but even then you’re 
> talking a couple hundred bucks to pay someone to do it. If not, it’s plug and 
> pray like SAMs in the earlier models.
> 
> -D
> 
> On Dec 12, 2023, at 12:08 PM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/723555079823088/
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> This looks kinda cool. Reprogram ECU? Sounds like voodoo.
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Re: [MBZ] Different Looking ML

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

A couple of questions:

1.) Are those current photos?

2.) What “ECU”?

If they’re talking about the engine computer, I would check with Floyd, but I 
recall these being pretty cheap used. I haven’t dealt with W163s that deeply, 
so I’m not sure if the ECU has to be version-coded, but even then you’re 
talking a couple hundred bucks to pay someone to do it. If not, it’s plug and 
pray like SAMs in the earlier models.

-D

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/723555079823088/

This looks kinda cool. Reprogram ECU? Sounds like voodoo.

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] FBMP ad of the day -- 2005 Mercedes-Benz clk-class CLK 320 Cabriolet 2D, $2, 025

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Nice hood!

-D

> On Dec 12, 2023, at 10:35 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> It might be nice but kinda hard to tell
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/230676700058060
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Re: [MBZ] This is a parts car I have no title runs and drives fine 2004 Mercedes-Benz sl-class SL 500 Roadster 2D, $3, 000

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

There’s a brand-new-looking one of these on MBM right now with no bids. I think 
people are starting to figure out that these are Bad News for a lot of reasons.

I considered one for a replacement for Mrs. Dan’s former R129, but the more I 
learned as I researched them the more I realized they should be avoided.

-D

> On Dec 12, 2023, at 10:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> has many electrical issues abc fault car sat for 5 years untouched NO TITLE
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Re: [MBZ] 1963 Mercedes-Benz 190SL

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

If it’s truly a 1963 190SL, you would be disappointed. Think 1950s British 
sports car. That’s what it’s like.

-D

On Dec 12, 2023, at 12:15 PM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
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I’d drive this:

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-1963-mercedes-benz-190sl/7696632480.html
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Re: [MBZ] '77 AMC Pacer Wagon on BAT

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Sold for $4,500. Not bad for the buyer, should hold its value at this point if 
it is kept in good condition. The AMC 258 straight-six is a decent engine.

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> Don't see many of these.  Manual floor shifter with a gaudy interior.
> Could be a steal at current bid level.
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1977-amc-pacer-6/
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Re: [MBZ] 1963 Mercedes-Benz 190SL

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Very kind of you to offer.

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> I’d drive this:
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Re: [MBZ] Different Looking ML

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I would guess that a 2000 model year ECU would not be as "locked" to the 
vehicle as a modern one? Maybe just needs a "reset" or "relearn" but definitely 
something you'd need to look into before buying.


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> nightmare.
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> So basically it’s dead because the ECU died.  
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>> On Dec 12, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
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>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/723555079823088/
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Re: [MBZ] Different Looking ML

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You would probably have to try and find one with the same part number, then send it and the original to one of those guys that can clone then and it might or might not work. Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 12, 2023, at 11:52 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:So can it be reprogramed or does it need to be replaced? Sounds like a nightmare. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: Kaleb Striplin via MercedesSent: Tuesday, December 12, 2023 10:49 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListCc: Kaleb StriplinSubject: Re: [MBZ] Different Looking ML So basically it’s dead because the ECU died.    Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 12, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/723555079823088/ This looks kinda cool. Reprogram ECU? Sounds like voodoo. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows ___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 

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Re: [MBZ] Different Looking ML

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So can it be reprogramed or does it need to be replaced? Sounds like a nightmare. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: Kaleb Striplin via MercedesSent: Tuesday, December 12, 2023 10:49 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListCc: Kaleb StriplinSubject: Re: [MBZ] Different Looking ML So basically it’s dead because the ECU died.    Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 12, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/723555079823088/ This looks kinda cool. Reprogram ECU? Sounds like voodoo. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows ___http://www.okiebenz.comTo search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 

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Re: [MBZ] 230E Euro -- 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300 ce,$8,500

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English red.

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> Looks very nice, lot of work done to it
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/372625261806268
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Re: [MBZ] What's up with that rust band on the LR? 1984 Mercedes-Benz mercedes-amg sl, $5, 500

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Was this a chop job to replace the rear end?

On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 10:46 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> minimal body work needed.
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/260110237077175
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Re: [MBZ] Different Looking ML

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So basically it’s dead because the ECU died.  Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 12, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/723555079823088/ This looks kinda cool. Reprogram ECU? Sounds like voodoo. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] '77 AMC Pacer Wagon on BAT

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

My father was a fairly loyal AMC buyer, had owned several Ramblers and almost 
bought one of these (or maybe a Gremlin) at about that time. But Japanese 
imports were getting popular and known for better quality so he bought an 
Isuzu-made Buick Opel. Turned out to be something of an orphan car but it was 
quite reliable and he owned it well into the 1990s.


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> Could be a steal at current bid level.
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[MBZ] '77 AMC Pacer Wagon on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Don't see many of these.  Manual floor shifter with a gaudy interior.
Could be a steal at current bid level.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1977-amc-pacer-6/
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[MBZ] 1963 Mercedes-Benz 190SL

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

I’d drive this: https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-1963-mercedes-benz-190sl/7696632480.htmlSent from Mail for Windows AZBob  

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[MBZ] 2000 Mercedes Benz E320

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-2000-mercedes-benz-e320/7696787332.htmlSent from Mail for Windows Color delta and kinda gappy on that right side. Low miles however. AZBob

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[MBZ] Different Looking ML

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/723555079823088/ This looks kinda cool. Reprogram ECU? Sounds like voodoo. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] Seems scammy but maybe not? W108

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Dent is a bargaining point for loball offer.  Good example of how a lovely
color can enhance resale value.

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> Photos not obviously lifted from any other sites at least not as found by
> a quick Google Image Search. Badged as a 280SEL 4.5.
>
> Dent in left side front fender but doesn't look like it would be difficult
> for someone with some hammer and dolly skills.
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[MBZ] 350SDL and a random SUV pic -- 1990 Mercedes-Benz 300 sd SDturbo diesel, $2, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

almost 199kmi so maybe the engine is not trash

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/891786145528905

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[MBZ] 230E Euro -- 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300 ce,$8,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks very nice, lot of work done to it

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/372625261806268

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[MBZ] What's up with that rust band on the LR? 1984 Mercedes-Benz mercedes-amg sl, $5, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

minimal body work needed.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/260110237077175

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[MBZ] Runs and drive jump in limp mode randomly 2007 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 550 Sedan 4D, $2, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This could be a reasonable deal, fix the tranny/CP

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/726633516007963

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[MBZ] The meth I just smoked made my finger twitchy on the 0 key -- 1985 Mercedes-Benz 190d, $1, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/742008984440156

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 2011 Mercedes C300 4 matic - Genuine Mercedes Spark Plug Question ADDED

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

StarParts are a separate product line that Mercedes came up with to continue to 
provide maintenance parts for older models. For example, if you go to a dealer 
to buy an oil filter for a car with an M112, you can’t get an “official” MB 
part - that’s a “gray box” part. You’ll get a StarPart filter in a white box.

The “gray box” parts no longer exist, they will now supersede to a StarPart 
part.

According to Mercedes, all remains the same, they just separate these out now 
to provide and equal but less expensive options. Maybe this is to compete with 
the aftermarket, who knows?

-D

On Dec 12, 2023, at 9:29 AM, Robert Koziak  wrote:


I couldn't post photos but the two boxes the spark plugs came in were 
different.  On the higher priced ones the box was blue and white marked 
"Mercedes Benz Star Parts" and the Ebay ones came in a silver and white box I 
have seen for many years.

A search of the internet showed the "Mercedes Star Parts" were:

"Mercedes-Benz StarParts offer you new maintenance and wear & tear parts for 
older vehicles, specially developed for selected model series: Mercedes-Benz 
StarParts are aligned with the current vehicle value. High quality for 
price-sensitive customers, without compromising on safety."

Makes sense that the Ebay silver and white box was new old stock.

Decided to try the Ebay and hope for the best!

Thanks for the feedback.

Bob

On Tuesday, December 12, 2023, 05:55:18 AM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:


The stuff on eBay is likely from a liquidator who bought up old inventory. I 
buy it all the time. For instance, I buy cans of MB brake fluid, around 
$25/liter at the dealer, three damaged cans for $30. I’ve bought spark plugs, 
too. I know a guy that does this and makes a good deal of money at it. I buy 
boxes of windshield washer summer concentrate for 20 pieces at $20 shipped to 
me.

Take one out and inspect it. More likely than not, it’s the real thing.

-D

> On Dec 11, 2023, at 10:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> FCP is likely genuine and has a lifetime warranty. They also carry the Bosch 
> plugs for $8.29 each.
>
> Ebay is caveat emptor. No telling what they are.
>
>
>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, at 22:29, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>  I am getting ready to replace the spark plugs on my daughter's 2011
>> C300 4Matic and have a spark plug question:
>> I purchased 6 Genuine Mercedes Spark Plugs from FCP Euro for $86.00.
>> I then saw on Ebay 6 Genuine Mercedes Benz Spark Plugs for my car for
>> $21.00 and decided to order those too to see if there was any
>> difference.
>> FCP Euro - Genuine Mercedes Part #A 004 159 49 03 90 - Made in Japan
>> (Unknown) - $86Ebay -Genuine Mercedes Part #A 004 159 18 03 26
>> - Made in Japan (Bosch).- $21
>> They both are packaged in Genuine Mercedes Boxes.  They look identical!
>> Does anyone know the difference?  Is it worth paying over 4 times the
>> price from FCP?  I will if there is a good reason.  FCP has been my go
>> to vendor with good prices and warranty.
>> As always thanks in advance!
>> Bob K
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[MBZ] Possibly the strainer or transmission 1998 Mercedes-Benz e-class, $500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I'm not certain what exactly is wrong with it.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/881354433666210

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Re: [MBZ] Cheepcheep EV or old Benz? YOU DECIDE!!! Sky-high hybrid battery bill shocks Arizona man

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

They offer that too.

For somebody in a big city, like in China, it probably makes sense. Have a 
service where you can essentially borrow a car any time you need without the 
challenge of actually having to own/maintain/park it yourself.

-Curt


On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 10:25:02 AM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





> The battery is a subscription, you don't own the battery anymore.

Cars are headed that way as well, I suspect.


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[MBZ] CLS300??? Drive wherever just when you cut it off the lights stays on. 2008 Mercedes-Benz cls-class, $2, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Good Car. No codes. Serious Buyers Only.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/259007296891615

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[MBZ] FBMP ad of the day -- 2005 Mercedes-Benz clk-class CLK 320 Cabriolet 2D, $2, 025

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It might be nice but kinda hard to tell

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[MBZ] This is a parts car I have no title runs and drives fine 2004 Mercedes-Benz sl-class SL 500 Roadster 2D, $3, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

has many electrical issues abc fault car sat for 5 years untouched NO TITLE

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[MBZ] 2006 Mercedes Cls 500 ( Don’t msg me on no BS),$6,500 · In stock

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Clean title Rare car come and get it

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Re: [MBZ] Cheepcheep EV or old Benz? YOU DECIDE!!! Sky-high hybrid battery bill shocks Arizona man

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

> The battery is a subscription, you don't own the battery anymore.

Cars are headed that way as well, I suspect.

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Re: [MBZ] Cheepcheep EV or old Benz? YOU DECIDE!!! Sky-high hybrid battery bill shocks Arizona man

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Go back and watch the video I posted, it's being done today...

The battery is a subscription, you don't own the battery anymore. Its expensive 
of course but if you wanted that convenience...

-Curt


On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 08:25:21 AM EST, mitch--- via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





On 2023-12-11 18:45, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Not practical for EVs currently in the US you mean...

The only thing I can think of is hoist the car and stuff a battery in 
from the bottom.
It'd still increase the overall weight of the vehicle noticeably. Both 
from not having the lowest part of the car as permanent structure and 
from needing to make the battery structurally sound on its own.

But if anybody actually did this there would be hot-swappable battery 
units in the free market, and a bad battery would not total a ten year 
old car any more than a rod through the block would total a ten year old 
gasser.


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 2011 Mercedes C300 4 matic - Genuine Mercedes Spark Plug Question ADDED

[Robert Koziak via Mercedes]

 I couldn't post photos but the two boxes the spark plugs came in were 
different.  On the higher priced ones the box was blue and white marked 
"Mercedes Benz Star Parts" and the Ebay ones came in a silver and white box I 
have seen for many years.
A search of the internet showed the "Mercedes Star Parts" were:
"Mercedes-Benz StarParts offer you new maintenance and wear & tear parts for 
older vehicles, specially developed for selected model series: Mercedes-Benz 
StarParts are aligned with the current vehicle value. High quality for 
price-sensitive customers, without compromising on safety."

Makes sense that the Ebay silver and white box was new old stock.
Decided to try the Ebay and hope for the best!  
Thanks for the feedback.
Bob
On Tuesday, December 12, 2023, 05:55:18 AM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 The stuff on eBay is likely from a liquidator who bought up old inventory. I 
buy it all the time. For instance, I buy cans of MB brake fluid, around 
$25/liter at the dealer, three damaged cans for $30. I’ve bought spark plugs, 
too. I know a guy that does this and makes a good deal of money at it. I buy 
boxes of windshield washer summer concentrate for 20 pieces at $20 shipped to 
me.

Take one out and inspect it. More likely than not, it’s the real thing.

-D

> On Dec 11, 2023, at 10:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> FCP is likely genuine and has a lifetime warranty. They also carry the Bosch 
> plugs for $8.29 each.
> 
> Ebay is caveat emptor. No telling what they are.
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, at 22:29, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>  I am getting ready to replace the spark plugs on my daughter's 2011
>> C300 4Matic and have a spark plug question:  
>> I purchased 6 Genuine Mercedes Spark Plugs from FCP Euro for $86.00.  
>> I then saw on Ebay 6 Genuine Mercedes Benz Spark Plugs for my car for
>> $21.00 and decided to order those too to see if there was any
>> difference.
>> FCP Euro - Genuine Mercedes Part #A 004 159 49 03 90 - Made in Japan
>> (Unknown) - $86Ebay -        Genuine Mercedes Part #A 004 159 18 03 26
>> - Made in Japan (Bosch).    - $21
>> They both are packaged in Genuine Mercedes Boxes.  They look identical!
>> Does anyone know the difference?  Is it worth paying over 4 times the
>> price from FCP?  I will if there is a good reason.  FCP has been my go
>> to vendor with good prices and warranty.
>> As always thanks in advance!
>> Bob K
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheepcheep EV or old Benz? YOU DECIDE!!! Sky-high hybrid battery bill shocks Arizona man

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> The only thing I can think of is hoist the car and stuff a battery in from 
> the bottom.

Like a Tesla S?  Supposedly a 90-second operation.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Cheepcheep EV or old Benz? YOU DECIDE!!! Sky-high hybrid battery bill shocks Arizona man

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On 2023-12-11 18:45, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Not practical for EVs currently in the US you mean...


The only thing I can think of is hoist the car and stuff a battery in 
from the bottom.
It'd still increase the overall weight of the vehicle noticeably. Both 
from not having the lowest part of the car as permanent structure and 
from needing to make the battery structurally sound on its own.


But if anybody actually did this there would be hot-swappable battery 
units in the free market, and a bad battery would not total a ten year 
old car any more than a rod through the block would total a ten year old 
gasser.


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 2011 Mercedes C300 4 matic - Genuine Mercedes Spark Plug Question

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The stuff on eBay is likely from a liquidator who bought up old inventory. I 
buy it all the time. For instance, I buy cans of MB brake fluid, around 
$25/liter at the dealer, three damaged cans for $30. I’ve bought spark plugs, 
too. I know a guy that does this and makes a good deal of money at it. I buy 
boxes of windshield washer summer concentrate for 20 pieces at $20 shipped to 
me.

Take one out and inspect it. More likely than not, it’s the real thing.

-D

> On Dec 11, 2023, at 10:50 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> FCP is likely genuine and has a lifetime warranty. They also carry the Bosch 
> plugs for $8.29 each.
> 
> Ebay is caveat emptor. No telling what they are.
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023, at 22:29, Robert Koziak via Mercedes wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>  I am getting ready to replace the spark plugs on my daughter's 2011
>> C300 4Matic and have a spark plug question:  
>> I purchased 6 Genuine Mercedes Spark Plugs from FCP Euro for $86.00.  
>> I then saw on Ebay 6 Genuine Mercedes Benz Spark Plugs for my car for
>> $21.00 and decided to order those too to see if there was any
>> difference.
>> FCP Euro - Genuine Mercedes Part #A 004 159 49 03 90 - Made in Japan
>> (Unknown) - $86Ebay - Genuine Mercedes Part #A 004 159 18 03 26
>> - Made in Japan (Bosch).- $21
>> They both are packaged in Genuine Mercedes Boxes.  They look identical!
>> Does anyone know the difference?  Is it worth paying over 4 times the
>> price from FCP?  I will if there is a good reason.  FCP has been my go
>> to vendor with good prices and warranty.
>> As always thanks in advance!
>> Bob K
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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