Re: [MBZ] 2004 W211 4-matic oddities

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2023-12-27 22:08, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Are all four tires the same size and brand?


IIRC, setting off the 4Matic traction nannies results in a blinking 
yellow triangle with an exclamation point inside it.
But normally, a tire size discrepancy just gets you the blinking 
triangle shortly after you start driving, and disabled traction control. 
Possibly an ABS warning and disabling too.


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Re: [MBZ] Tempting SL 500 on BAT

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Doesn't Floyd have one of these?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1996-mercedes-benz-sl600-26/

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Re: [MBZ] Who has replaced AC or heat pump recently

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Got ya. I’m thinking the same, a step or 2 down is probably best and would most 
likely be way better than what I currently have anyway. 

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> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
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> I replaced my AC (outdoor compressor/condensor unit and indoor evaporator) 
> in 2018. I did not buy the top efficiency model, I think I went one step 
> below that, it was quite a bit cheaper and it seemed like the extra cost of 
> the best model would take years to pay for itself at the marginal difference 
> in efficiency. I no longer have the exact numbers handy, unfortunately.
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023, at 21:34, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Compressor died on heat pump. I have this service contract and just
>> looked at the service ticket and looks like they are replacing
>> condenser and I have $120 in non covered charges. Have to find out what
>> that is. I’m going to assume they are replacing condenser only and not
>> inside unit. I understand this can be done but will be mismatched and
>> not as efficient. I’m going to call the contractor tomorrow to see what
>> the plan is, but also going to ask about paying any difference to
>> replace the inside unit as well.
>> 
>> This leads me to seer ratings. Is it worth paying more for higher
>> ratings? Energy savings worth it? What about here 2 stage versus single
>> stage units?
>> 
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[MBZ] Selling complete non running ml320 - $1,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Sitting two years. No pics. Sounds crackish. Recycler would pay maybe $250 - 
$300 if you brought it to them.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/summit-argo-2000-mercedes-ml320/7701853095.html
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Re: [MBZ] Who has replaced AC or heat pump recently

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I replaced my AC (outdoor compressor/condensor unit and indoor evaporator) in 
2018. I did not buy the top efficiency model, I think I went one step below 
that, it was quite a bit cheaper and it seemed like the extra cost of the best 
model would take years to pay for itself at the marginal difference in 
efficiency. I no longer have the exact numbers handy, unfortunately.


On Thu, Dec 28, 2023, at 21:34, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Compressor died on heat pump. I have this service contract and just 
> looked at the service ticket and looks like they are replacing 
> condenser and I have $120 in non covered charges. Have to find out what 
> that is. I’m going to assume they are replacing condenser only and not 
> inside unit. I understand this can be done but will be mismatched and 
> not as efficient. I’m going to call the contractor tomorrow to see what 
> the plan is, but also going to ask about paying any difference to 
> replace the inside unit as well. 
>
> This leads me to seer ratings. Is it worth paying more for higher 
> ratings? Energy savings worth it? What about here 2 stage versus single 
> stage units?
>
>
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[MBZ] Who has replaced AC or heat pump recently

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Compressor died on heat pump. I have this service contract and just looked at 
the service ticket and looks like they are replacing condenser and I have $120 
in non covered charges. Have to find out what that is. I’m going to assume they 
are replacing condenser only and not inside unit. I understand this can be done 
but will be mismatched and not as efficient. I’m going to call the contractor 
tomorrow to see what the plan is, but also going to ask about paying any 
difference to replace the inside unit as well. 

This leads me to seer ratings. Is it worth paying more for higher ratings? 
Energy savings worth it? What about here 2 stage versus single stage units?


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[MBZ] What do the 108 experts say about this one?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

 Look at this post on Facebook 
https://www.facebook.com/share/seL3qa4uFhgsPo1x/?mibextid=79PoIi

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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Brasilia

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

She grew up near the Outer Banks so basically a constant salt air bath that was 
not good to the recycled tin can body

--FT
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> On Dec 28, 2023, at 8:30 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, those were like a W210 or W114 when it came to rusting. Like you could 
> hear it standing next to one.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 8:26 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I know this woman who had a The Thing until it dissolved to rust
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I do like an air cooled VW that isn't a Beetle or Microbus...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 06:14:23 PM EST, Dwight Giles 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> so are you lusting Curt?
>>> 
 On Thu, Dec 28, 2023, 5:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 Type IV? Not common anyway.
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/715227570029175/
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Brasilia

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Thats whats got me impressed about this Brasilia, not many of them here in the 
first place and those that came here rusted terribly. My mom had a Type III 
fastback that was rusted out by the time we moved to southern Maine, so it was 
maybe 6 or 7 years old.

-Curt


On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 08:27:23 PM EST, Buggered Benzmail via 
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I know this woman who had a The Thing until it dissolved to rust 

--FT
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> On Dec 28, 2023, at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I do like an air cooled VW that isn't a Beetle or Microbus...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 06:14:23 PM EST, Dwight Giles 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> so are you lusting Curt?
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023, 5:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Type IV? Not common anyway.
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/715227570029175/
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Brasilia

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Yeah, those were like a W210 or W114 when it came to rusting. Like you could 
hear it standing next to one.

-D

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 8:26 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I know this woman who had a The Thing until it dissolved to rust 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I do like an air cooled VW that isn't a Beetle or Microbus...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 06:14:23 PM EST, Dwight Giles 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> so are you lusting Curt?
>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023, 5:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Type IV? Not common anyway.
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/715227570029175/
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Brasilia

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I know this woman who had a The Thing until it dissolved to rust 

--FT
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> On Dec 28, 2023, at 8:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I do like an air cooled VW that isn't a Beetle or Microbus...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 06:14:23 PM EST, Dwight Giles 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> so are you lusting Curt?
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023, 5:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Type IV? Not common anyway.
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/715227570029175/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Brasilia

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I do like an air cooled VW that isn't a Beetle or Microbus...

-Curt




On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 06:14:23 PM EST, Dwight Giles 
 wrote: 





so are you lusting Curt?

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> Type IV? Not common anyway.
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/715227570029175/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Brasilia

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

The VW guy in our town had one but he always referred to it as his Type 321. It 
was that sweet VW blue. As a 16 year old, I found it quite exotic. 

AZBob

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> On Dec 28, 2023, at 4:15 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> so are you lusting Curt?
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023, 5:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Type IV? Not common anyway.
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/715227570029175/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Brasilia

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so are you lusting Curt?

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> Type IV? Not common anyway.
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/715227570029175/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Brasilia

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Is that the one that runs on sugar cane derived alcohol?

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> Type IV? Not common anyway.
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/715227570029175/
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[MBZ] OT: VW Brasilia

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Type IV? Not common anyway.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/715227570029175/

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Tempting SL 500 on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I guess someone saw value in the low mileage of this car and the alleged
previous ownership by senior citizens..  Sold for $13k.

On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 2:07 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Probably.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 28, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > LOL.  Would you turn into stone if you looked?
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 1:32 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Without looking (I don’t look at BaT, it’s an abomination since the
> >> founders sold out) that’s one of the best model years for the R129.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >> Mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Love the color but wary about 6 previous owners and heavy wear and tear
> >> for
> >>> only having been driven 3k miles/year.
> >>>
> >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-mercedes-benz-sl500-141/
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Re: [MBZ] 1980 450SL - $15,000

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

After a few trips to the grocery store advance the odometer past 100,000
miles, the car will be worth under $10k

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> Looks fairly nice but don't care for the wheels. Listed as a 380 but
> badging says 450. No photos showing soft top. Price seems ambitious?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] E320 Mercedes

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Fly and drive, buddy, they’re right next to the airport.

-D

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Can’t go wrong for $800. Who is close?/

AZBob
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[MBZ] E320 Mercedes

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://reno.craigslist.org/cto/d/reno-e320-mercedes/7701325835.htmlSent from Mail for Windows Can’t go wrong for $800. Who is close?/ AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] OT: RTA kitchen cabinets

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I researched RTA cabinets a few years back when we were considering remodeling 
the kitchen in the Florida manse. To be honest, I don’t recall what vendors I 
looked at, other than to say it was like buying a pair of eyeglasses, or so it 
seemed. Everyone did the same styles and colors, there wasn’t a lot in the way 
of variations between most of the vendors. Wood specie, cabinet style, and 
hardware were the driving costs, or so it seemed. You can probably get some 
deals through the local Amish community if you look into it.

I know I was planning on paying someone to come in and measure. It wasn’t much, 
and it also cut down significantly on the potential for mistakes, or so I 
figured.

I’ve built kitchen cabinets from scratch on several occasions so this wasn’t 
anything new for me. For that matter, simply installing and hanging cabinets 
isn’t that difficult. It was definitely cheaper than anything I could get 
through a big-box store like Home Despot or Lowe’s, as we had one of them put a 
quote together for us to get an idea of the cost. Ouch!

We ultimately decided to have the cabinets refinished. Too bad, as they were 
actually pretty nice solid maple builder’s grade cabinets with a clear finish. 
I hated the idea of painting them, but that’s what Mrs. Dan wanted.

-D

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 3:24 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> to share a recommended (or not) vendor?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Yes, I meant to mention to the group that HF had a good deal on a Bauer(?) RO 
polisher this past week. I have one of the old $40 RO polishers from some years 
back, and it’s working just fine.

And as far as the paint, if it looks like it will clean up, great! That, or 
invest in a good detailing and let the detailer have at it. They’ll be able to 
make it look decent, I bet. The only catch is if there is a clearcoat 
(probably) and it’s started coming off. If so, there’s little you can do but 
drive and enjoy.

But - it would be a good negotiating tool, too, especially if you go see it 
with some dead presidents in pocket. They tend to do a great deal of 
communicating when brought into the conversation if you know what I mean. 
Especially since the seller, clearly a poor negotiator, has already tipped 
their hand as to why others have passed on the car.

-D

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 3:15 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Do a paint correction with clay bar and a buffer (on sale at HF!) and it will 
> look lots better 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 2:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Sounds like a swell idea.
>> My next hurdle is going to be how much “fading“ is too much. In one of the 
>> two pictures, you could see some of it on the fender flare.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 12:03 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Once you get it, if you choose to, let me know and maybe we can plan a 
>>> mini-‘Q and install your hitch! We could come down to the valley and thaw 
>>> out.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 i’m getting kind of excited about this. I just have to make sure it’s not 
 just because it’s different, new and shiny. I’m still waiting for more 
 pictures from the seller.
 
 AZBob
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:50 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Time for a reset here…
> 
> I got confused between the W210 E55 and the ML55. My bad, it sucks to 
> grow old sometimes…
> 
> The ML55 looks nice. Other than cosmetics, you should be good with the 
> rest. It’s a solid drive train and engine. That, and the ML55 had some 
> nice little amenities, like the trip computer in the upper console, and a 
> spare that’s stored inside the cargo area rather than below the car, for 
> example.
> 
> Adding a hitch is the same for any W163 across the board. Hitch and a 
> brake light isolator will set you back about $200, along with maybe an 
> hour or two of installation time. Easy-peasy.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The M113/M113K (and M112)  engines are really good — MILLION MILE 
>> ENGINES!
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:53 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for clarifying that - I couldn’t recall.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> These engines are quite reliable so I wouldn’t worry about that. Drive 
>>> it and enjoy and when you want a little excitement just mash the pedal.
>>> 
>>> A hitch is cheap and easy although there might be some quirks on the 
>>> 55. The spare is in the hatch area because of exhaust pipes or 
>>> something underneath. Etrailer will know.
>>> 
>>> The 63 M156 engine in the W164 etc has the head bolt issues in earlier 
>>> years. Ask me about it!
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:43 AM, dan penoff.com via 
 Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Some of these had engines with head bolt issues, not sure if this is 
>>> one of them, I’ll check. I think it was later models with a different 
>>> engine.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Seller is sending me pictures of the “slight fading of the paint on the 
>>> fender flares and the hood” .
>>> 
>>> I don’t know if I want a go fast vehicle, but it sure is pretty.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> AZ
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:16 AM, dan 
 penoff.com via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looking for a go-fast car? This is the one. That said, it will have a 
>>> higher operating cost than a standard W210. How much? I have no idea.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 

[MBZ] 1980 450SL - $15,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Looks fairly nice but don't care for the wheels. Listed as a 380 but badging 
says 450. No photos showing soft top. Price seems ambitious?

https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/bloomington-1980-mercedes/7701960289.html





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[MBZ] OT: RTA kitchen cabinets

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Has anyone purchased Ready-To-Assemble (RTA) kitchen cabinets, and would care 
to share a recommended (or not) vendor?

I'm looking at doing a kitchenette/bar project in the basement and considering 
going with RTA cabinets to save a bit of money.

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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Do a paint correction with clay bar and a buffer (on sale at HF!) and it will 
look lots better 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 2:56 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like a swell idea.
> My next hurdle is going to be how much “fading“ is too much. In one of the 
> two pictures, you could see some of it on the fender flare.
> 
> AZBob
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 12:03 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Once you get it, if you choose to, let me know and maybe we can plan a 
>> mini-‘Q and install your hitch! We could come down to the valley and thaw 
>> out.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> i’m getting kind of excited about this. I just have to make sure it’s not 
>>> just because it’s different, new and shiny. I’m still waiting for more 
>>> pictures from the seller.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:50 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Time for a reset here…
 
 I got confused between the W210 E55 and the ML55. My bad, it sucks to grow 
 old sometimes…
 
 The ML55 looks nice. Other than cosmetics, you should be good with the 
 rest. It’s a solid drive train and engine. That, and the ML55 had some 
 nice little amenities, like the trip computer in the upper console, and a 
 spare that’s stored inside the cargo area rather than below the car, for 
 example.
 
 Adding a hitch is the same for any W163 across the board. Hitch and a 
 brake light isolator will set you back about $200, along with maybe an 
 hour or two of installation time. Easy-peasy.
 
 -D
 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The M113/M113K (and M112)  engines are really good — MILLION MILE ENGINES!
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:53 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for clarifying that - I couldn’t recall.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> These engines are quite reliable so I wouldn’t worry about that. Drive 
>> it and enjoy and when you want a little excitement just mash the pedal.
>> 
>> A hitch is cheap and easy although there might be some quirks on the 55. 
>> The spare is in the hatch area because of exhaust pipes or something 
>> underneath. Etrailer will know.
>> 
>> The 63 M156 engine in the W164 etc has the head bolt issues in earlier 
>> years. Ask me about it!
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:43 AM, dan penoff.com via 
>>> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Some of these had engines with head bolt issues, not sure if this is 
>> one of them, I’ll check. I think it was later models with a different 
>> engine.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Seller is sending me pictures of the “slight fading of the paint on the 
>> fender flares and the hood” .
>> 
>> I don’t know if I want a go fast vehicle, but it sure is pretty.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> AZ
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:16 AM, dan 
>>> penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Looking for a go-fast car? This is the one. That said, it will have a 
>> higher operating cost than a standard W210. How much? I have no idea.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So…what different kind of a can of worms would an ML55 AMG open?
>> He says it has no hitch, of course, he has owned it for 10 years and has 
>> all the service records.
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for 
>> Windows
>> 
>> From: Robert Rentfro
>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:37 AM
>> To: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>> Subject: 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG
>> 
>> https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.html
>> Sent from Mail for 
>> Windows
>> 
>> Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort.
>> 
>> Worth a text…
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

They are one of MBs silly hot rods (lets stuff a big ass engine in this SUV, 
just because…) but work very well.  Very capable off road too. The ML63 is more 
outrageous but probably not as reliable as the 55. If you get it you’ll have 
some good fun and enjoyment. 

Good luck!

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 1:47 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> i’m getting kind of excited about this. I just have to make sure it’s not 
> just because it’s different, new and shiny. I’m still waiting for more 
> pictures from the seller.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:50 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Time for a reset here…
>> 
>> I got confused between the W210 E55 and the ML55. My bad, it sucks to grow 
>> old sometimes…
>> 
>> The ML55 looks nice. Other than cosmetics, you should be good with the rest. 
>> It’s a solid drive train and engine. That, and the ML55 had some nice little 
>> amenities, like the trip computer in the upper console, and a spare that’s 
>> stored inside the cargo area rather than below the car, for example.
>> 
>> Adding a hitch is the same for any W163 across the board. Hitch and a brake 
>> light isolator will set you back about $200, along with maybe an hour or two 
>> of installation time. Easy-peasy.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The M113/M113K (and M112)  engines are really good — MILLION MILE ENGINES!
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:53 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Thanks for clarifying that - I couldn’t recall.
 
 -D
 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 These engines are quite reliable so I wouldn’t worry about that. Drive it 
 and enjoy and when you want a little excitement just mash the pedal.
 
 A hitch is cheap and easy although there might be some quirks on the 55. 
 The spare is in the hatch area because of exhaust pipes or something 
 underneath. Etrailer will know.
 
 The 63 M156 engine in the W164 etc has the head bolt issues in earlier 
 years. Ask me about it!
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:43 AM, dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 Some of these had engines with head bolt issues, not sure if this is one 
 of them, I’ll check. I think it was later models with a different engine.
 
 -D
 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 Seller is sending me pictures of the “slight fading of the paint on the 
 fender flares and the hood” .
 
 I don’t know if I want a go fast vehicle, but it sure is pretty.
 
 AZBob
 
 AZ
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:16 AM, dan 
> penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
 
 Looking for a go-fast car? This is the one. That said, it will have a 
 higher operating cost than a standard W210. How much? I have no idea.
 
 -D
 
 
 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
 
 So…what different kind of a can of worms would an ML55 AMG open?
 He says it has no hitch, of course, he has owned it for 10 years and has 
 all the service records.
 
 Sent from Mail for Windows
 
 From: Robert Rentfro
 Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:37 AM
 To: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 Subject: 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG
 
 https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.html
 Sent from Mail for Windows
 
 Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort.
 
 Worth a text…
 
 AZBob
 
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Sounds like a swell idea. 
My next hurdle is going to be how much “fading“ is too much. In one of the two 
pictures, you could see some of it on the fender flare.

AZBob
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 12:03 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Once you get it, if you choose to, let me know and maybe we can plan a 
> mini-‘Q and install your hitch! We could come down to the valley and thaw out.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> i’m getting kind of excited about this. I just have to make sure it’s not 
>> just because it’s different, new and shiny. I’m still waiting for more 
>> pictures from the seller.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:50 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Time for a reset here…
>>> 
>>> I got confused between the W210 E55 and the ML55. My bad, it sucks to grow 
>>> old sometimes…
>>> 
>>> The ML55 looks nice. Other than cosmetics, you should be good with the 
>>> rest. It’s a solid drive train and engine. That, and the ML55 had some nice 
>>> little amenities, like the trip computer in the upper console, and a spare 
>>> that’s stored inside the cargo area rather than below the car, for example.
>>> 
>>> Adding a hitch is the same for any W163 across the board. Hitch and a brake 
>>> light isolator will set you back about $200, along with maybe an hour or 
>>> two of installation time. Easy-peasy.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 The M113/M113K (and M112)  engines are really good — MILLION MILE ENGINES!
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:53 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for clarifying that - I couldn’t recall.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> These engines are quite reliable so I wouldn’t worry about that. Drive it 
> and enjoy and when you want a little excitement just mash the pedal.
> 
> A hitch is cheap and easy although there might be some quirks on the 55. 
> The spare is in the hatch area because of exhaust pipes or something 
> underneath. Etrailer will know.
> 
> The 63 M156 engine in the W164 etc has the head bolt issues in earlier 
> years. Ask me about it!
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:43 AM, dan penoff.com via 
>> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Some of these had engines with head bolt issues, not sure if this is one 
> of them, I’ll check. I think it was later models with a different engine.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Seller is sending me pictures of the “slight fading of the paint on the 
> fender flares and the hood” .
> 
> I don’t know if I want a go fast vehicle, but it sure is pretty.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> AZ
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:16 AM, dan 
>> penoff.com via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>>  wrote:
> 
> Looking for a go-fast car? This is the one. That said, it will have a 
> higher operating cost than a standard W210. How much? I have no idea.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>>  wrote:
> 
> So…what different kind of a can of worms would an ML55 AMG open?
> He says it has no hitch, of course, he has owned it for 10 years and has 
> all the service records.
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> 
> From: Robert Rentfro
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:37 AM
> To: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> Subject: 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG
> 
> https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.html
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> 
> Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort.
> 
> Worth a text…
> 
> AZBob
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tempting SL 500 on BAT

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Probably.

-D

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> LOL.  Would you turn into stone if you looked?
> 
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 1:32 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Without looking (I don’t look at BaT, it’s an abomination since the
>> founders sold out) that’s one of the best model years for the R129.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> Mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Love the color but wary about 6 previous owners and heavy wear and tear
>> for
>>> only having been driven 3k miles/year.
>>> 
>>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-mercedes-benz-sl500-141/
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Once you get it, if you choose to, let me know and maybe we can plan a mini-‘Q 
and install your hitch! We could come down to the valley and thaw out.

-D

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 1:46 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> i’m getting kind of excited about this. I just have to make sure it’s not 
> just because it’s different, new and shiny. I’m still waiting for more 
> pictures from the seller.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:50 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Time for a reset here…
>> 
>> I got confused between the W210 E55 and the ML55. My bad, it sucks to grow 
>> old sometimes…
>> 
>> The ML55 looks nice. Other than cosmetics, you should be good with the rest. 
>> It’s a solid drive train and engine. That, and the ML55 had some nice little 
>> amenities, like the trip computer in the upper console, and a spare that’s 
>> stored inside the cargo area rather than below the car, for example.
>> 
>> Adding a hitch is the same for any W163 across the board. Hitch and a brake 
>> light isolator will set you back about $200, along with maybe an hour or two 
>> of installation time. Easy-peasy.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The M113/M113K (and M112)  engines are really good — MILLION MILE ENGINES!
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:53 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Thanks for clarifying that - I couldn’t recall.
 
 -D
 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 These engines are quite reliable so I wouldn’t worry about that. Drive it 
 and enjoy and when you want a little excitement just mash the pedal.
 
 A hitch is cheap and easy although there might be some quirks on the 55. 
 The spare is in the hatch area because of exhaust pipes or something 
 underneath. Etrailer will know.
 
 The 63 M156 engine in the W164 etc has the head bolt issues in earlier 
 years. Ask me about it!
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:43 AM, dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 Some of these had engines with head bolt issues, not sure if this is one 
 of them, I’ll check. I think it was later models with a different engine.
 
 -D
 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 Seller is sending me pictures of the “slight fading of the paint on the 
 fender flares and the hood” .
 
 I don’t know if I want a go fast vehicle, but it sure is pretty.
 
 AZBob
 
 AZ
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:16 AM, dan 
> penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
 
 Looking for a go-fast car? This is the one. That said, it will have a 
 higher operating cost than a standard W210. How much? I have no idea.
 
 -D
 
 
 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
 
 So…what different kind of a can of worms would an ML55 AMG open?
 He says it has no hitch, of course, he has owned it for 10 years and has 
 all the service records.
 
 Sent from Mail for Windows
 
 From: Robert Rentfro
 Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:37 AM
 To: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 Subject: 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG
 
 https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.html
 Sent from Mail for Windows
 
 Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort.
 
 Worth a text…
 
 AZBob
 
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Should you purchase the car, this list will be your lifeline to solving any
problem that comes along.

On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 1:47 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> i’m getting kind of excited about this. I just have to make sure it’s not
> just because it’s different, new and shiny. I’m still waiting for more
> pictures from the seller.
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:50 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Time for a reset here…
> >
> > I got confused between the W210 E55 and the ML55. My bad, it sucks to
> grow old sometimes…
> >
> > The ML55 looks nice. Other than cosmetics, you should be good with the
> rest. It’s a solid drive train and engine. That, and the ML55 had some nice
> little amenities, like the trip computer in the upper console, and a spare
> that’s stored inside the cargo area rather than below the car, for example.
> >
> > Adding a hitch is the same for any W163 across the board. Hitch and a
> brake light isolator will set you back about $200, along with maybe an hour
> or two of installation time. Easy-peasy.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Dec 28, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The M113/M113K (and M112)  engines are really good — MILLION MILE
> ENGINES!
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iFōn
> >>
>  On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:53 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for clarifying that - I couldn’t recall.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> These engines are quite reliable so I wouldn’t worry about that. Drive
> it and enjoy and when you want a little excitement just mash the pedal.
> >>>
> >>> A hitch is cheap and easy although there might be some quirks on the
> 55. The spare is in the hatch area because of exhaust pipes or something
> underneath. Etrailer will know.
> >>>
> >>> The 63 M156 engine in the W164 etc has the head bolt issues in earlier
> years. Ask me about it!
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iFōn
> >>>
>  On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:43 AM, dan penoff.com via
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Some of these had engines with head bolt issues, not sure if this is
> one of them, I’ll check. I think it was later models with a different
> engine.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Seller is sending me pictures of the “slight fading of the paint on
> the fender flares and the hood” .
> >>>
> >>> I don’t know if I want a go fast vehicle, but it sure is pretty.
> >>>
> >>> AZBob
> >>>
> >>> AZ
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:16 AM, dan penoff.com<
> http://penoff.com/> via Mercedes  mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Looking for a go-fast car? This is the one. That said, it will have a
> higher operating cost than a standard W210. How much? I have no idea.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So…what different kind of a can of worms would an ML55 AMG open?
> >>> He says it has no hitch, of course, he has owned it for 10 years and
> has all the service records.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Mail for
> Windows
> >>>
> >>> From: Robert Rentfro
> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:37 AM
> >>> To: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> >>> Subject: 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG
> >>>
> >>>
> https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.html
> >>> Sent from Mail for
> Windows
> >>>
> >>> Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort.
> >>>
> >>> Worth a text…
> >>>
> >>> AZBob
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

i’m getting kind of excited about this. I just have to make sure it’s not just 
because it’s different, new and shiny. I’m still waiting for more pictures from 
the seller.

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:50 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Time for a reset here…
> 
> I got confused between the W210 E55 and the ML55. My bad, it sucks to grow 
> old sometimes…
> 
> The ML55 looks nice. Other than cosmetics, you should be good with the rest. 
> It’s a solid drive train and engine. That, and the ML55 had some nice little 
> amenities, like the trip computer in the upper console, and a spare that’s 
> stored inside the cargo area rather than below the car, for example.
> 
> Adding a hitch is the same for any W163 across the board. Hitch and a brake 
> light isolator will set you back about $200, along with maybe an hour or two 
> of installation time. Easy-peasy.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The M113/M113K (and M112)  engines are really good — MILLION MILE ENGINES!
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:53 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for clarifying that - I couldn’t recall.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> These engines are quite reliable so I wouldn’t worry about that. Drive it 
>>> and enjoy and when you want a little excitement just mash the pedal.
>>> 
>>> A hitch is cheap and easy although there might be some quirks on the 55. 
>>> The spare is in the hatch area because of exhaust pipes or something 
>>> underneath. Etrailer will know.
>>> 
>>> The 63 M156 engine in the W164 etc has the head bolt issues in earlier 
>>> years. Ask me about it!
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:43 AM, dan penoff.com via 
 Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Some of these had engines with head bolt issues, not sure if this is one 
>>> of them, I’ll check. I think it was later models with a different engine.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Seller is sending me pictures of the “slight fading of the paint on the 
>>> fender flares and the hood” .
>>> 
>>> I don’t know if I want a go fast vehicle, but it sure is pretty.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> AZ
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:16 AM, dan 
 penoff.com via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looking for a go-fast car? This is the one. That said, it will have a 
>>> higher operating cost than a standard W210. How much? I have no idea.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So…what different kind of a can of worms would an ML55 AMG open?
>>> He says it has no hitch, of course, he has owned it for 10 years and has 
>>> all the service records.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>>> 
>>> From: Robert Rentfro
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:37 AM
>>> To: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>>> Subject: 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG
>>> 
>>> https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.html
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>>> 
>>> Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort.
>>> 
>>> Worth a text…
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tempting SL 500 on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

LOL.  Would you turn into stone if you looked?

On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 1:32 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Without looking (I don’t look at BaT, it’s an abomination since the
> founders sold out) that’s one of the best model years for the R129.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 28, 2023, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> Mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Love the color but wary about 6 previous owners and heavy wear and tear
> for
> > only having been driven 3k miles/year.
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-mercedes-benz-sl500-141/
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Re: [MBZ] Tempting SL 500 on BAT

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Without looking (I don’t look at BaT, it’s an abomination since the founders 
sold out) that’s one of the best model years for the R129.

-D

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Love the color but wary about 6 previous owners and heavy wear and tear for
> only having been driven 3k miles/year.
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-mercedes-benz-sl500-141/
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[MBZ] Tempting SL 500 on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Love the color but wary about 6 previous owners and heavy wear and tear for
only having been driven 3k miles/year.

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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Time for a reset here…

I got confused between the W210 E55 and the ML55. My bad, it sucks to grow old 
sometimes…

The ML55 looks nice. Other than cosmetics, you should be good with the rest. 
It’s a solid drive train and engine. That, and the ML55 had some nice little 
amenities, like the trip computer in the upper console, and a spare that’s 
stored inside the cargo area rather than below the car, for example.

Adding a hitch is the same for any W163 across the board. Hitch and a brake 
light isolator will set you back about $200, along with maybe an hour or two of 
installation time. Easy-peasy.

-D

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The M113/M113K (and M112)  engines are really good — MILLION MILE ENGINES!
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:53 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for clarifying that - I couldn’t recall.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> These engines are quite reliable so I wouldn’t worry about that. Drive it 
>> and enjoy and when you want a little excitement just mash the pedal.
>> 
>> A hitch is cheap and easy although there might be some quirks on the 55. The 
>> spare is in the hatch area because of exhaust pipes or something underneath. 
>> Etrailer will know.
>> 
>> The 63 M156 engine in the W164 etc has the head bolt issues in earlier 
>> years. Ask me about it!
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:43 AM, dan penoff.com via 
>> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Some of these had engines with head bolt issues, not sure if this is one of 
>> them, I’ll check. I think it was later models with a different engine.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Seller is sending me pictures of the “slight fading of the paint on the 
>> fender flares and the hood” .
>> 
>> I don’t know if I want a go fast vehicle, but it sure is pretty.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> AZ
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:16 AM, dan 
>> penoff.com via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Looking for a go-fast car? This is the one. That said, it will have a 
>> higher operating cost than a standard W210. How much? I have no idea.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So…what different kind of a can of worms would an ML55 AMG open?
>> He says it has no hitch, of course, he has owned it for 10 years and has all 
>> the service records.
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>> 
>> From: Robert Rentfro
>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:37 AM
>> To: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>> Subject: 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG
>> 
>> https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.html
>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>> 
>> Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort.
>> 
>> Worth a text…
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

The M113/M113K (and M112)  engines are really good — MILLION MILE ENGINES!

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:53 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for clarifying that - I couldn’t recall.
> 
> -D
> 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> These engines are quite reliable so I wouldn’t worry about that. Drive it and 
> enjoy and when you want a little excitement just mash the pedal.
> 
> A hitch is cheap and easy although there might be some quirks on the 55. The 
> spare is in the hatch area because of exhaust pipes or something underneath. 
> Etrailer will know.
> 
> The 63 M156 engine in the W164 etc has the head bolt issues in earlier years. 
> Ask me about it!
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:43 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Some of these had engines with head bolt issues, not sure if this is one of 
> them, I’ll check. I think it was later models with a different engine.
> 
> -D
> 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Seller is sending me pictures of the “slight fading of the paint on the 
> fender flares and the hood” .
> 
> I don’t know if I want a go fast vehicle, but it sure is pretty.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> AZ
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:16 AM, dan 
> penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> Looking for a go-fast car? This is the one. That said, it will have a higher 
> operating cost than a standard W210. How much? I have no idea.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> So…what different kind of a can of worms would an ML55 AMG open?
> He says it has no hitch, of course, he has owned it for 10 years and has all 
> the service records.
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> 
> From: Robert Rentfro
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:37 AM
> To: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> Subject: 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG
> 
> https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.html
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> 
> Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort.
> 
> Worth a text…
> 
> AZBob
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: weren't these race cars intended for oval courses?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 27 Dec 2023 12:54:55 -0500 mitch--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> MBZ content from the Classic Center:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMa3_tT5mKA
> 
> On 2023-12-27 12:52, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > We're going to party like it's 1909...but we'll use modern helmets.
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGNIMNy7BtU

Interesting videos, Mitch. Thanks!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Thanks for clarifying that - I couldn’t recall.

-D

On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

These engines are quite reliable so I wouldn’t worry about that. Drive it and 
enjoy and when you want a little excitement just mash the pedal.

A hitch is cheap and easy although there might be some quirks on the 55. The 
spare is in the hatch area because of exhaust pipes or something underneath. 
Etrailer will know.

The 63 M156 engine in the W164 etc has the head bolt issues in earlier years. 
Ask me about it!

--FT
Sent from iFōn

On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:43 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Some of these had engines with head bolt issues, not sure if this is one of 
them, I’ll check. I think it was later models with a different engine.

-D

On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Seller is sending me pictures of the “slight fading of the paint on the fender 
flares and the hood” .

I don’t know if I want a go fast vehicle, but it sure is pretty.

AZBob

AZ
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:16 AM, dan 
penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Looking for a go-fast car? This is the one. That said, it will have a higher 
operating cost than a standard W210. How much? I have no idea.

-D



On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

So…what different kind of a can of worms would an ML55 AMG open?
He says it has no hitch, of course, he has owned it for 10 years and has all 
the service records.

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From: Robert Rentfro
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To: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Subject: 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.html
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Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort.

Worth a text…

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

These engines are quite reliable so I wouldn’t worry about that. Drive it and 
enjoy and when you want a little excitement just mash the pedal. 

A hitch is cheap and easy although there might be some quirks on the 55. The 
spare is in the hatch area because of exhaust pipes or something underneath. 
Etrailer will know. 

The 63 M156 engine in the W164 etc has the head bolt issues in earlier years. 
Ask me about it!

--FT
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> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:43 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Some of these had engines with head bolt issues, not sure if this is one of 
> them, I’ll check. I think it was later models with a different engine.
> 
> -D
> 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Seller is sending me pictures of the “slight fading of the paint on the 
> fender flares and the hood” .
> 
> I don’t know if I want a go fast vehicle, but it sure is pretty.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> AZ
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:16 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Looking for a go-fast car? This is the one. That said, it will have a higher 
> operating cost than a standard W210. How much? I have no idea.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> So…what different kind of a can of worms would an ML55 AMG open?
> He says it has no hitch, of course, he has owned it for 10 years and has all 
> the service records.
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> 
> From: Robert Rentfro
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:37 AM
> To: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> Subject: 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG
> 
> https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.html
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> 
> Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort.
> 
> Worth a text…
> 
> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Some of these had engines with head bolt issues, not sure if this is one of 
them, I’ll check. I think it was later models with a different engine.

-D

On Dec 28, 2023, at 11:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

Seller is sending me pictures of the “slight fading of the paint on the fender 
flares and the hood” .

I don’t know if I want a go fast vehicle, but it sure is pretty.

AZBob

AZ
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On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:16 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Looking for a go-fast car? This is the one. That said, it will have a higher 
operating cost than a standard W210. How much? I have no idea.

-D



On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

So…what different kind of a can of worms would an ML55 AMG open?
He says it has no hitch, of course, he has owned it for 10 years and has all 
the service records.

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Robert Rentfro
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:37 AM
To: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Subject: 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.html
Sent from Mail for Windows

Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort.

Worth a text…

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Seller is sending me pictures of the “slight fading of the paint on the fender 
flares and the hood” . 

I don’t know if I want a go fast vehicle, but it sure is pretty. 

AZBob

AZ
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 9:16 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looking for a go-fast car? This is the one. That said, it will have a higher 
> operating cost than a standard W210. How much? I have no idea.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So…what different kind of a can of worms would an ML55 AMG open?
> He says it has no hitch, of course, he has owned it for 10 years and has all 
> the service records.
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> 
> From: Robert Rentfro
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:37 AM
> To: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> Subject: 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG
> 
> https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.html
> Sent from Mail for Windows
> 
> Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort.
> 
> Worth a text…
> 
> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Looking for a go-fast car? This is the one. That said, it will have a higher 
operating cost than a standard W210. How much? I have no idea.

-D



On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:45 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:

So…what different kind of a can of worms would an ML55 AMG open?
He says it has no hitch, of course, he has owned it for 10 years and has all 
the service records.

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Robert Rentfro
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:37 AM
To: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Subject: 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.html
Sent from Mail for Windows

Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort.

Worth a text…

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] 220D With a 240D Engine, Tranny Swap.....What?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I didn’t think those things would fit in there.

A 250 is an I6.  I'm sure any I4 could fit instead.

-- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] 2004 W211 4-matic oddities

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

Yep, tires are all the same.

Others (thank you) have implicated the 4matic and that's what it feels like
to me. It's not trying to shift, it's just as though someone is
engaging/releasing the clutch repeatedly.

D.

On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 Rick Knoble wrote:
>
>Are all four tires the same size and
>brand?
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes E320 Wagon

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's quite high for the miles and is not a 4matic.  I would see more 
like $3k unless it is in excellent condition then maybe $3500.  But that 
said they are great cars and very usable.  I don't know how a hitch 
would mount, look on etrailer.com they will have some info on it.


--FT

On 12/28/23 10:35 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:


https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/d/burbank-2001-mercedes-e320-wagon/7701763070.html

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Looks Nice. Ask isn’t too crackified. I wonder what fair would be? 
Again with the silver….AH.


Is a proper hitch install on these a bolt on deal or drill first then 
bolt on?


AZBob


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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

So…what different kind of a can of worms would an ML55 AMG open? He says it has no hitch, of course, he has owned it for 10 years and has all the service records.  Sent from Mail for Windows From: Robert RentfroSent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:37 AMTo: Buggered Benzmail via MercedesSubject: 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.htmlSent from Mail for Windows Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort. Worth a text… AZBob 

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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes E320 Wagon

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

A real MB factory (Euro) hitch comes out from under the bumper, not through it.

-D


On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
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https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/d/burbank-2001-mercedes-e320-wagon/7701763070.html
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Looks Nice. Ask isn’t too crackified. I wonder what fair would be? Again with 
the silver….AH.
Is a proper hitch install on these a bolt on deal or drill first then bolt on?

AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's not a totally unreasonable price as it looks to be in good 
condition. The 55s demand a premium and the color and designo interior 
is cool.  I don't think that one is a kompressor but it will still haul ass


--FT

On 12/28/23 10:37 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:


https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.html

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Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort.

Worth a text…

AZBob


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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes-Benz E320 Low Mileage

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

No, nearly every W210 of that vintage was that color. Silver or champagne.

Price is a little optimistic for the miles and condition, but at $5k it would 
be a deal if the provenance is good. They’ve owned it since 2012, so that says 
something positive about ownership and maintenance.

-D

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Desert camo colors.  I had the 99E300 and 99E320, both cars were very 
> reliable and didn't need much of anything in the time I drove them.
> 
> The diesel I got for $500 and cleaned the intake and it then ran great.  The 
> $600 gasser had a bad conductor plate, put in a new one and drove that car 
> for a coupla years, it was great.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 12/28/23 10:28 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/mesa-2001-mercedes-benz-e320-low-mileage/7701865033.html
>> 
>> Sent from Mail  for Windows
>> 
>> OMG every car in AZ is this color!
>> 
>> Nice low miles, gawd awful color, lots of recent work done, gawd awful 
>> color, 30 minutes away reom me, gawd awful color.
>> 
>> This is the mo-better year for these W210s, yes?
>> 
>> AZBob
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[MBZ] 2001 Mercedes ML55 AMG

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/d/north-las-vegas-2001-mercedes-ml55-amg/7701727877.htmlSent from Mail for Windows Wow. Wonder if this isn’t a scam of some sort. Worth a text… AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes-Benz E320 Low Mileage

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Desert camo colors.  I had the 99E300 and 99E320, both cars were very 
reliable and didn't need much of anything in the time I drove them.


The diesel I got for $500 and cleaned the intake and it then ran great.  
The $600 gasser had a bad conductor plate, put in a new one and drove 
that car for a coupla years, it was great.


--FT

On 12/28/23 10:28 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:


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OMG every car in AZ is this color!

Nice low miles, gawd awful color, lots of recent work done, gawd awful 
color, 30 minutes away reom me, gawd awful color.


This is the mo-better year for these W210s, yes?

AZBob


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[MBZ] 2001 Mercedes E320 Wagon

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/d/burbank-2001-mercedes-e320-wagon/7701763070.htmlSent from Mail for Windows Looks Nice. Ask isn’t too crackified. I wonder what fair would be? Again with the silver….AH.Is a proper hitch install on these a bolt on deal or drill first then bolt on? AZBob

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[MBZ] 2001 Mercedes-Benz E320 Low Mileage

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/mesa-2001-mercedes-benz-e320-low-mileage/7701865033.htmlSent from Mail for Windows OMG every car in AZ is this color!Nice low miles, gawd awful color, lots of recent work done, gawd awful color, 30 minutes away reom me, gawd awful color. This is the mo-better year for these W210s, yes?  AZBob 

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Re: [MBZ] 220D With a 240D Engine, Tranny Swap.....What?

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

250…sorry, I miss read. Sent from Mail for Windows From: Robert RentfroSent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:19 AMTo: Buggered Benzmail via MercedesSubject: 220D With a 240D Engine, Tranny Swap.What? https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/787536163209332/ I didn’t think those things would fit in there. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows  

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[MBZ] 220D With a 240D Engine, Tranny Swap.....What?

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/787536163209332/ I didn’t think those things would fit in there. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] How is it I Have Never Seen This?

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

Boy that’s the truth, Rick.The seller is a man of few words…and less responses having not answered my questions about the car(are there AC issues? Is the clearcoat peeling? You’re length of ownership? Any service records? Odometer working?). Clown. I may just tell him I’d like to see it and ask face to face. AZBob   Sent from Mail for Windows From: Rick Knoble via MercedesSent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 10:01 PMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListCc: Rick KnobleSubject: Re: [MBZ] How is it I Have Never Seen This? To answer the question"How is it I Have Never Seen This?" FBMP search engine sucks.It is quite possibly the worst platform for internet sales searching since Al Gore invented the internet.  Rick___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  

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Re: [MBZ] Can be hard to start. 1974 Mercedes-Benz 240d,$4,000

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Check for blow-by too, don't know if it was fixed by 74, but the 72 engines 
were known for pre-mature cylinder wear due to the alloy used for the block.

-Original Message-
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And glow plugs. And a good hard run.

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> On Dec 21, 2023, at 11:06 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>
> On 21/12/2023 8:12 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/720388589763915
>>
> Wonder how long since the valves were adjusted?
>
> Randy
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