Re: [MBZ] The pics show nothing really

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

123 steering wheel?

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> On Jan 7, 2024, at 9:16 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
>  Look at this post on Facebook 
> https://www.facebook.com/share/KCtqntWPQkJSYhNh/?mibextid=79PoIi
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[MBZ] The pics show nothing really

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

 Look at this post on Facebook 
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[MBZ] 1940 Benz barn find first start

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

This is really cool 
https://youtu.be/KFFResBE3O0

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Re: [MBZ] In other news -- 12GL450 Airmatic

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Sehr gut!!
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> On Jan 7, 2024, at 6:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This thing was slammed, happened a few weeks back so it has been sitting. 
> Was not clear what the issue was.  Appeared to be an issue with rear bags so 
> I ordered 2 new ones and put them on.  RR was not holding air, LR appeared to 
> have air.  Did not solve the problem.  DAS was saying the air line to the 
> reservoir or the line was not right, or the pressure sensor was bad, or 
> something not specific.
> 
> So I ordered a "new" used reservoir off ebay which was a double tank whereas 
> the one on the vehicle was a single tank.  I guess someone had thrown one on 
> there at some point in the past. Still had the problem, same error code with 
> the pressure sensor and the reservoir was not pressurizing or holding 
> pressure, so I ordered an airline going to it from the valve block and put 
> that on. Still no joy and same error code which was puzzling, and tank was 
> not holding pressure.
> 
> I ran tests using DAS and kept coming back to this problem.  I broke down and 
> ordered a cheap pump and valve block off Amazon and put them in, and put the 
> original air line back on the valve block.  The old valve block was some 
> no-name thing kinda like the new one I put on.  I had the right side jacked 
> up and the lower arms sitting on blocks so I could have the front tire off 
> and get to the reservoir in the rear (under the vehicle).  That at least 
> would allow the system to pump up thinking the tires were on the ground.  I 
> was still getting the same error code, and it did appear to be pumping up but 
> not correctly.  This was very strange as aside from the front struts 
> everything was new.
> 
> So today I just decided to put the front wheel back on and drop the right 
> side back down on the ground and see what happens.  I put the computer on it 
> so I could watch what it would do, and LO!  I started it, the pump was 
> pumping, the vehicle was raising, and everything was showing good with no 
> faults.  I did an automatic level calibration using DAS and everything seems 
> to be sitting comfortably now.  Halluhlooyuh!!! Yay me!
> 
> I have to take the RF wheel off again to get the pump and valve block back in 
> their places and bolted down and put the liner back on, that should be good 
> for now.  So, a success there it seems.  In doing some research it appears 
> the pressure sensor I was getting errors for is inside the valve block on 
> this vehicle.  Not sure why it was showing a fault after I put in the new one 
> but it had no faults today so I'm calling it good.
> 
> The rear tires are at end of life so I will need to get another pair soon.  
> Fronts are 1 new and 1 mostly new so those are good.  The idler pulley is 
> making rude noises so I ordered 2 new ones to have a spare, will get that 
> replaced when they get here.  My daughter had one let go on their Christmas 
> trip, left them dead but managed to get a new one and tools to replace it and 
> the belt that was completely shredded.  Don't want that to happen (I had that 
> happen on the ML500, luckily I was just up the road when it let go and made 
> it home OK).
> 
> Anyway, fun times Benzing on the Vast Estate.  One FAIL and one SUCCESS
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Re: [MBZ] OT: This Company Plans To Make Diesel-Electric Conversion Kits for Old Pickups

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've been watching them on YouTube. Cool guys, loggers who decided that if 
Tesla wouldn't make them a truck they'd make their own.

Never underestimate the power of a man (or men) in a shed...

-Curt


On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 02:56:31 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





You'll still be able to roll coal with your EV truck!

https://www.thedrive.com/news/diesel-electric-semi-maker-edison-wants-to-sell-pickup-truck-conversion-kits
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[MBZ] In other news -- 12GL450 Airmatic

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This thing was slammed, happened a few weeks back so it has been 
sitting. Was not clear what the issue was.  Appeared to be an issue with 
rear bags so I ordered 2 new ones and put them on.  RR was not holding 
air, LR appeared to have air.  Did not solve the problem.  DAS was 
saying the air line to the reservoir or the line was not right, or the 
pressure sensor was bad, or something not specific.


So I ordered a "new" used reservoir off ebay which was a double tank 
whereas the one on the vehicle was a single tank.  I guess someone had 
thrown one on there at some point in the past. Still had the problem, 
same error code with the pressure sensor and the reservoir was not 
pressurizing or holding pressure, so I ordered an airline going to it 
from the valve block and put that on. Still no joy and same error code 
which was puzzling, and tank was not holding pressure.


I ran tests using DAS and kept coming back to this problem.  I broke 
down and ordered a cheap pump and valve block off Amazon and put them 
in, and put the original air line back on the valve block.  The old 
valve block was some no-name thing kinda like the new one I put on.  I 
had the right side jacked up and the lower arms sitting on blocks so I 
could have the front tire off and get to the reservoir in the rear 
(under the vehicle).  That at least would allow the system to pump up 
thinking the tires were on the ground.  I was still getting the same 
error code, and it did appear to be pumping up but not correctly.  This 
was very strange as aside from the front struts everything was new.


So today I just decided to put the front wheel back on and drop the 
right side back down on the ground and see what happens.  I put the 
computer on it so I could watch what it would do, and LO!  I started it, 
the pump was pumping, the vehicle was raising, and everything was 
showing good with no faults.  I did an automatic level calibration using 
DAS and everything seems to be sitting comfortably now.  Halluhlooyuh!!! 
Yay me!


I have to take the RF wheel off again to get the pump and valve block 
back in their places and bolted down and put the liner back on, that 
should be good for now.  So, a success there it seems.  In doing some 
research it appears the pressure sensor I was getting errors for is 
inside the valve block on this vehicle.  Not sure why it was showing a 
fault after I put in the new one but it had no faults today so I'm 
calling it good.


The rear tires are at end of life so I will need to get another pair 
soon.  Fronts are 1 new and 1 mostly new so those are good.  The idler 
pulley is making rude noises so I ordered 2 new ones to have a spare, 
will get that replaced when they get here.  My daughter had one let go 
on their Christmas trip, left them dead but managed to get a new one and 
tools to replace it and the belt that was completely shredded.  Don't 
want that to happen (I had that happen on the ML500, luckily I was just 
up the road when it let go and made it home OK).


Anyway, fun times Benzing on the Vast Estate.  One FAIL and one SUCCESS

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Re: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Two viable options:
Drill out the broken bolts, then increase the drill size [if you have a
number drill set slip up on it one drill size at a time until the outer
flange of the rivnut cuts off the internal compressed body, which should
leave you with a clean hole in the sheet metal, minimal paint damage.
Then, replace the seized / broken bolt rivnut with a new one. [have a look
at Temu.. search "rivnut tool" and "rivnuts" for a cheap tool that works
well.
Or..
Go to local FLAPS and pick up 4 nylon license plate inserts , pop them in
place, put new license plate screws in and never deal with rusted / broken
license plate bolts again.. [should cost less than $5 for the set].
The nylon inserts are hidden behind the license plate, so no one will ever
know until you tell them..

On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 3:37 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If they are rivet nuts, you'll have to chisel the outside lip so that it
> can be pushed through. Get some touch up paint to clean up any damage and
> pop in new ones with this tool.
>
> https://hftools.com/app58078
>
> Oh and remove the hatch panel to retrieve the old ones when the rattling
> gets to you.
>
> Or, just use two bolts and call it good.
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: January 7, 2024 2:08 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
> Subject: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR
>
> Two of the four license plate fasteners on my ML350 have the bolts broken
> off in them. Not sure I can get them out with an easy out thing. And one of
> them is pretty buggered up and I doubt that a new bolt could go in there
> even if I get this broken one out.
> Is it possible to get in there and just replace everything?
>
> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

This looks like the way. You have to remove the hatch panel though.

https://youtu.be/4Fft6_kngdU


Rick

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

If they are rivet nuts, you'll have to chisel the outside lip so that it can be 
pushed through. Get some touch up paint to clean up any damage and pop in new 
ones with this tool.

https://hftools.com/app58078

Oh and remove the hatch panel to retrieve the old ones when the rattling gets 
to you.

Or, just use two bolts and call it good.


Rick

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Sent: January 7, 2024 2:08 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

Two of the four license plate fasteners on my ML350 have the bolts broken off 
in them. Not sure I can get them out with an easy out thing. And one of them is 
pretty buggered up and I doubt that a new bolt could go in there even if I get 
this broken one out.
Is it possible to get in there and just replace everything?

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

If they are rivet nuts, you'll have to chisel the outside lip so that it can be 
pushed through. Get some touch up paint to clean up any damage and pop in new 
ones with this tool.

https://hftools.com/app58078

Oh and remove the hatch panel to retrieve the old ones when the rattling gets 
to you.

Or, just use two bolts and call it good.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: January 7, 2024 2:08 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: azbob...@gmail.com
Subject: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

Two of the four license plate fasteners on my ML350 have the bolts broken off 
in them. Not sure I can get them out with an easy out thing. And one of them is 
pretty buggered up and I doubt that a new bolt could go in there even if I get 
this broken one out.
Is it possible to get in there and just replace everything?

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

They are special rivets type deals and there is a special tool for installing 
them.

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> On Jan 7, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Two of the four license plate fasteners on my ML350 have the bolts broken 
> off in them. Not sure I can get them out with an easy out thing. And one of 
> them is pretty buggered up and I doubt that a new bolt could go in there even 
> if I get this broken one out.
> Is it possible to get in there and just replace everything?
> 
> AZBob
> 
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[MBZ] well bugger. 07E350...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

So this car I got for [$400] if I account for what I had in the $600 (+ 
maybe $300 for the trans conductor plate fix) 99E320 I traded, and the 
woman gave me $500.  It was spinning but not lighting off.  My buddy 
Todd put on another ECU because the one on the car somehow thought it 
was for a V8 which was weird, but whatever.  We messed with it a bit and 
it would spin then after a bit not spin, starter seemed like it went 
bad.  He gave me another starter he had laying around and I just 
finished putting it on the car.  (it was not a very pleasant job, had to 
remove exhaust pipe, O2 sensors, etc. to get at it and it was incredibly 
tight up in there, but I managed)


So I threw a battery in and hit the start and... clunk.  And... clunk. 
Bugger.  So I went and found a big socket and put it on the crank and... 
nothing.  No spinnie, no turnie...  I guess it is locked up.  Bugger.


This is kinda weird as it was spinning fine when I picked it up and when 
we were messing with it until it seemed like the starter had quit. No 
cam codes or timing issues showing which is what you see when these 
engines jump timing due to the balance shaft sprocket wearing down.  I 
think there might be some way to get a borescope in there to look at it, 
I remember seeing something about that.


So anyway, it is a nice car other than the engine likely being trashed, 
which is kind of a surprise since it seemed to be spinning OK.  But not 
a lot of $$$ into it, I will look for another engine and pop it in.


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Re: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Yeah, something like that. I think I used to hear them called “nutserts” when I 
was in manufacturing.

-D

> On Jan 7, 2024, at 3:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> “Rivnuts”?
> 
> --FT
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> 
>> On Jan 7, 2024, at 3:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Are they “nutserts”? Those threaded cylindrical fasteners that are 
>> compressed like a pop rivet to hold onto the metal they’re in?
>> 
>> I’ve never had any luck drilling them out or replacing them. I’m sure it can 
>> be done, however. Probably a YT video out there on how to do it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 7, 2024, at 3:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Two of the four license plate fasteners on my ML350 have the bolts broken 
>>> off in them. Not sure I can get them out with an easy out thing. And one of 
>>> them is pretty buggered up and I doubt that a new bolt could go in there 
>>> even if I get this broken one out.
>>> Is it possible to get in there and just replace everything?
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

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“Rivnuts”?

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> On Jan 7, 2024, at 3:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are they “nutserts”? Those threaded cylindrical fasteners that are 
> compressed like a pop rivet to hold onto the metal they’re in?
> 
> I’ve never had any luck drilling them out or replacing them. I’m sure it can 
> be done, however. Probably a YT video out there on how to do it.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 7, 2024, at 3:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Two of the four license plate fasteners on my ML350 have the bolts broken 
>> off in them. Not sure I can get them out with an easy out thing. And one of 
>> them is pretty buggered up and I doubt that a new bolt could go in there 
>> even if I get this broken one out.
>> Is it possible to get in there and just replace everything?
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Are they “nutserts”? Those threaded cylindrical fasteners that are compressed 
like a pop rivet to hold onto the metal they’re in?

I’ve never had any luck drilling them out or replacing them. I’m sure it can be 
done, however. Probably a YT video out there on how to do it.

-D

> On Jan 7, 2024, at 3:07 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Two of the four license plate fasteners on my ML350 have the bolts broken off 
> in them. Not sure I can get them out with an easy out thing. And one of them 
> is pretty buggered up and I doubt that a new bolt could go in there even if I 
> get this broken one out.
> Is it possible to get in there and just replace everything? 
> 
> AZBob 
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[MBZ] W163 License Plate Fasteners FUBAR

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Two of the four license plate fasteners on my ML350 have the bolts broken off 
in them. Not sure I can get them out with an easy out thing. And one of them is 
pretty buggered up and I doubt that a new bolt could go in there even if I get 
this broken one out.
Is it possible to get in there and just replace everything? 

AZBob 

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT-Microwave

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> These three microswitches were all wired into a black box - no idea of how 
> they were wired beyond that.

All it takes is some idiot 'engineer' who uses these as logic inputs
to a computer in order to COMPLETELY miss the point of safety engineering.

These are the same folks who probably will be making self-driving cars.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] OT Big diesel engine

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/dullmensclub/permalink/1440673339922536/

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Re: [MBZ] no leeks no odors 2009 Mercedes-Benz r-class R 320 BLUETEC Sport Wagon 4D, $5, 400

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

NEED RAMPS FOR THE SPRING

--FT

On 1/7/24 12:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

How about ramps?

On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 12:39 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:


No onions no shallots

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1116626899700052

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Re: [MBZ] no leeks no odors 2009 Mercedes-Benz r-class R 320 BLUETEC Sport Wagon 4D, $5, 400

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Looks to be a good deal absent any undisclosed lurking issues...

On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 12:46 PM Andrew Strasfogel 
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> How about ramps?
>
> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 12:39 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>> No onions no shallots
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Re: [MBZ] no leeks no odors 2009 Mercedes-Benz r-class R 320 BLUETEC Sport Wagon 4D, $5, 400

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

How about ramps?

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> No onions no shallots
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Re: [MBZ] SCAM? she shut off on me out of no where 1980 Mercedes-Benz cd 300, $4, 000

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Needs "small things done".  Like what?

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> Looks very nice
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Re: [MBZ] What a Pity

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Why is it "rare" - the color??

On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 11:07 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Aside from the fender might not take much to get it going.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 7, 2024, at 9:36 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> Such a great color.
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/226771520468387/
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> AZBob
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[MBZ] no leeks no odors 2009 Mercedes-Benz r-class R 320 BLUETEC Sport Wagon 4D, $5, 400

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

No onions no shallots

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1116626899700052

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[MBZ] 220b Project car on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I've seen worse for more money.  Rust appears to be "superficial"; dry Utah
climate might help. Bidding is still open.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-mercedes-benz-220b-sedan/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2024-01-07
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[MBZ] SCAM? she shut off on me out of no where 1980 Mercedes-Benz cd 300, $4, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks very nice

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1043855340182024

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[MBZ] Godo deal: warning in regards to a wheel sensor 2005 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 500 Sedan 4D, $1, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

$20 WSS, takes longer to get the car jacked up and wheel off than to 
change it. Slammed but probably has been sitting.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1141332970577935


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Re: [MBZ] What a Pity

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Aside from the fender might not take much to get it going. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 7, 2024, at 9:36 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:Such a great color.https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/226771520468387/ AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT-Microwave

[MB list etc via Mercedes]

These three microswitches were all wired into a black box - no idea of how they 
were wired beyond that. I can say that the cover is nice steel with a good 
paint job - it will be used someday for something. 




On Sunday, January 7th, 2024 at 12:34 AM, Jim Cathey  
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> 
> 
> >> I found the fault that caused the microwave to turn on when you open the 
> >> door - a failed closed microswitch. The little red button is stuck in the 
> >> closed position. It is one of three activated by the closing of the door...
> 
> 
> There is something criminally wrong with the design of that oven, if that
> kind of single failure resulted in a containment failure. The chain is
> supposed to be fail-SAFE, in that all failures result in failure to cook,
> rather than ever cooking the environment.
> 
> The designs I've looked at all have three different microswitches in 
> electrical
> series, thus ALL have to say 'go' before the magnetron is powered.
> 
> 1: Door closed.
> 2: Door latched.
> 3: Start button pushed.
> 
> All three have to fail, opposite their normal state, in order to pump 
> microwaves
> out into the world.
> 
> -- Jim

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[MBZ] What a Pity

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

Such a great color.https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/226771520468387/ AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] C230 coprocessor - $7,500

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Too funny. It does look very nice though but that’s a crazy ask for a 
coprocessor 

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> Crackhead.
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