Re: [MBZ] W163 Hood Adjustment

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 14:38:32 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
 wrote:

> My ML350’s hood is slightly wonky. 
> 
> Passenger is SAT. Is there an adjustment, like on W123s, to correct
> this?

Every Mercedes I have seen (I have not seen an ML350) has a means to
align the hood to the rest of the vehicle.

I would look at where the hinges attach to the hood and to the body.

I would try loosening the hinge attachments to the hood on the wonky side
and pulling on the hood to see if it moves.

You show the alignment of the hood to the fenders at the front.

What does the alignment of the hood to the air intake/windshield wiper
sheet metal at the rear of the hood look like?


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Re: [MBZ] W163 Hood Adjustment

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SAT?

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 4:39 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> My ML350’s hood is slightly wonky.
>
>
> Passenger is SAT. Is there an adjustment, like on W123s, to correct this?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Low Miles E500

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My W126 300SD has the same cream colored mats, which are actually magnetic
to cups of espresso coffee.

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 4:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Nice looking car with a little Martha’ing.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 13, 2024, at 12:45 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1770750113398911/
> >
> > Would it kill people to actually clean their upholstery during their
> ownership?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 2013 GL350 CDI - 149k miles - $10,300

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My DEF heater went south but I persuaded the dealer to install it for free,
since it is connected to the emissions system that was recalled under
litigation.

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 5:56 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> Looks very nice but for the year and miles something maybe $2k less would
> be more reasonable. The engine work can be a requirement if things go bad,
> it’s a lot of work. I guess that’s what happened.
>
> Is it white or silver?  Looks like a hitch too. Great tow car.
>
> --FT
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> > On Jan 13, 2024, at 2:30 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> >
> > "Complete Emission system modification, new turbocharger, timing chain
> and tighteners, fuel lines, fuel injectors, catalytic converter with
> sensor, erg valve, head gaskets, exhaust gas cooler, exhaust pipe, oil
> cooler, both rear air bags, resealed vacuum pump, new expansion tank, etc."
> >
> > Is all that typically necessary? Or was this a dealership taking an
> opportunity to charge a lot of work to an extended warranty plan?
> >
> > Looks very clean.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Paragon Tires

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On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 17:58:45 -0700 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> It is unfortunate they only allow incremental inch sizes and not
> half-inch sizes. All my heavy vehicle wheels and tires are half-inch
> size.

That should read,

"It is unfortunate they only allow integer inch sizes ..."


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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Paragon Tires

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 22:38:07 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Or a website like this that has a wheel/tire size calculator:
> 
> 
> Alloy Wheel & Tyre Fitment Calculator. Offset, Tyre Stretch and Speedo
> Error

It is really slick how they have a computer-generated picture of how the
wheel and tire fit relative to the mounting hub for both before and after
(existing and new).

It is unfortunate they only allow incremental inch sizes and not
half-inch sizes. All my heavy vehicle wheels and tires are half-inch size.


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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

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On 2024-01-13 16:06, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
They have but they still crap out in real cold. I'd definitely want to 
have a wood stove or other backup heat source if I had to have a heat 
pump.


Except for mini splits, every installation I've see has an integrated 
backup.

Either resistance heat strips like Kaleb's, or propane/gas like mine.

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Re: [MBZ] 2013 GL350 CDI - 149k miles - $10,300

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Looks very nice but for the year and miles something maybe $2k less would be 
more reasonable. The engine work can be a requirement if things go bad, it’s a 
lot of work. I guess that’s what happened. 

Is it white or silver?  Looks like a hitch too. Great tow car. 

--FT
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>  wrote:
> 
> "Complete Emission system modification, new turbocharger, timing chain and 
> tighteners, fuel lines, fuel injectors, catalytic converter with sensor, erg 
> valve, head gaskets, exhaust gas cooler, exhaust pipe, oil cooler, both rear 
> air bags, resealed vacuum pump, new expansion tank, etc."
> 
> Is all that typically necessary? Or was this a dealership taking an 
> opportunity to charge a lot of work to an extended warranty plan?
> 
> Looks very clean.
> 
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/cary-mercedes-benz-gl-350cdi-4matic/7707044909.html
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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

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I need to get some of that insulation on lines out at the unit. There is about a foot of it missing right out of the unit. I can say it’s about 12 outside and the large line is too hot to touch. So even at these temps it’s still pulling a good amount of heat out of the air. And yes, I do believe the coil is much larger on this unit than the old one. It’s nearly teicd as tall as the old one and only slight more narrow.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 13, 2024, at 2:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:I guess heat pumps have improved their efficiency since the 70s.On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 11:33 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  wrote:HSPF is 10.6.  The old Rheem indoor air handler/coil is rated at 16 Seer. I figured the unit as a whole would run 16. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 13, 2024, at 10:25 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> The new outdoor unit probably has a bigger coil and will make heat at a lower temp than the old one.
> 
> If it's a "17 seer" unit, I'd expect a good bit less than that without a matching air handler/indoor coil. What's the HSPF on the outdoor unit, is it ten or better?
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Re: [MBZ] Low Miles E500

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Nice looking car with a little Martha’ing.

-D

> On Jan 13, 2024, at 12:45 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1770750113398911/
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> Would it kill people to actually clean their upholstery during their 
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Re: [MBZ] 2013 GL350 CDI - 149k miles - $10,300

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Talk him down a couple thousand so you can afford to replace the DEF heater when it goes out. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: Andrew Strasfogel via MercedesSent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 2:19 PMTo: Allan StreibCc: Andrew Strasfogel; Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] 2013 GL350 CDI - 149k miles - $10,300 Then go for it. I'm sure the seller is flexible. On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, 4:03 PM Allan Streib  wrote: > I could live with that. Interior looks like a new car.> > On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, at 15:53, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:> > It's nice that all that expensive work has been completed, but the dents> and other flaws devalue the car.> > On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 2:30 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:> > "Complete Emission system modification, new turbocharger, timing chain and> tighteners, fuel lines, fuel injectors, catalytic converter with sensor,> erg valve, head gaskets, exhaust gas cooler, exhaust pipe, oil cooler, both> rear air bags, resealed vacuum pump, new expansion tank, etc."> > Is all that typically necessary? Or was this a dealership taking an> opportunity to charge a lot of work to an extended warranty plan?> > Looks very clean.> > > https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/cary-mercedes-benz-gl-350cdi-4matic/7707044909.html> ___> http://www.okiebenz.com> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > > ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  

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Re: [MBZ] Why are these things priced this high? 2012 Smart Car - $5, 995

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Like when I pass by the local Shriner’s Hospital, I look for the smaller 
cars/parking spaces where the employees park.

Or, the one I like far better:

There is a building in a run-down part of downtown Tampa that I drive by 
frequently where the Longshoreman’s Union hall is located. I’ve always wanted 
to go in and ask if they can teach me some good swear words.

-D

> On Jan 13, 2024, at 4:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> A two car garage becomes a four car garage.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, 4:10 PM MB list etc via Mercedes <
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> 
>> They could be collectable, and small enough to get several.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, January 13th, 2024 at 1:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Divided among 10 clowns it's only $600 each.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, at 12:15, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
 Do people actually pay this much for these things?
 
 
>> https://louisville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/crestwood-2012-smart-car/7706821874.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] 2013 GL350 CDI - 149k miles - $10,300

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Then go for it. I'm sure the seller is flexible.

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, 4:03 PM Allan Streib  wrote:

> I could live with that. Interior looks like a new car.
>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, at 15:53, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
> It's nice that all that expensive work has been completed, but the dents
> and other flaws devalue the car.
>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 2:30 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> "Complete Emission system modification, new turbocharger, timing chain and
> tighteners, fuel lines, fuel injectors, catalytic converter with sensor,
> erg valve, head gaskets, exhaust gas cooler, exhaust pipe, oil cooler, both
> rear air bags, resealed vacuum pump, new expansion tank, etc."
>
> Is all that typically necessary? Or was this a dealership taking an
> opportunity to charge a lot of work to an extended warranty plan?
>
> Looks very clean.
>
>
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/cary-mercedes-benz-gl-350cdi-4matic/7707044909.html
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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Good point. We had an oil furnace at the time that served as a backup.

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, 4:07 PM Allan Streib  wrote:

> They have but they still crap out in real cold. I'd definitely want to
> have a wood stove or other backup heat source if I had to have a heat pump.
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, at 15:56, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > I guess heat pumps have improved their efficiency since the 70s.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 11:33 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> HSPF is 10.6.  The old Rheem indoor air handler/coil is rated at 16
> Seer.
> >> I figured the unit as a whole would run 16.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Jan 13, 2024, at 10:25 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The new outdoor unit probably has a bigger coil and will make heat
> at a
> >> lower temp than the old one.
> >> >
> >> > If it's a "17 seer" unit, I'd expect a good bit less than that
> without a
> >> matching air handler/indoor coil. What's the HSPF on the outdoor unit,
> is
> >> it ten or better?
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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

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They have, significantly.

I’ve got a couple of mini-split air source heat pumps at the AZ house, where 
it’s been getting into the teens and single digits at night of late. Both are 
rated at 90% or better at -4F, as I recall. I really wished we had looked into 
a ground source heat pump for the house instead of replacing the aging gas 
furnace.

-D

> On Jan 13, 2024, at 3:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> I guess heat pumps have improved their efficiency since the 70s.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 11:33 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> HSPF is 10.6.  The old Rheem indoor air handler/coil is rated at 16 Seer.
>> I figured the unit as a whole would run 16.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 13, 2024, at 10:25 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The new outdoor unit probably has a bigger coil and will make heat at a
>> lower temp than the old one.
>>> 
>>> If it's a "17 seer" unit, I'd expect a good bit less than that without a
>> matching air handler/indoor coil. What's the HSPF on the outdoor unit, is
>> it ten or better?
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Re: [MBZ] Why are these things priced this high? 2012 Smart Car - $5, 995

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A two car garage becomes a four car garage.

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> They could be collectable, and small enough to get several.
>
>
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>
> On Saturday, January 13th, 2024 at 1:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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>
> >
> >
> > Divided among 10 clowns it's only $600 each.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, at 12:15, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> > > Do people actually pay this much for these things?
> > >
> > >
> https://louisville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/crestwood-2012-smart-car/7706821874.html
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Re: [MBZ] Why are these things priced this high? 2012 Smart Car - $5, 995

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They could be collectable, and small enough to get several.




On Saturday, January 13th, 2024 at 1:00 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:


> 
> 
> Divided among 10 clowns it's only $600 each.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024, at 12:15, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> > Do people actually pay this much for these things?
> > 
> > https://louisville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/crestwood-2012-smart-car/7706821874.html
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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

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They have but they still crap out in real cold. I'd definitely want to have a 
wood stove or other backup heat source if I had to have a heat pump.


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> I guess heat pumps have improved their efficiency since the 70s.
>
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>> HSPF is 10.6.  The old Rheem indoor air handler/coil is rated at 16 Seer.
>> I figured the unit as a whole would run 16.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> >
>> > The new outdoor unit probably has a bigger coil and will make heat at a
>> lower temp than the old one.
>> >
>> > If it's a "17 seer" unit, I'd expect a good bit less than that without a
>> matching air handler/indoor coil. What's the HSPF on the outdoor unit, is
>> it ten or better?
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Re: [MBZ] 2013 GL350 CDI - 149k miles - $10,300

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I could live with that. Interior looks like a new car.

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> It's nice that all that expensive work has been completed, but the dents and 
> other flaws devalue the car.
> 
> On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 2:30 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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>> "Complete Emission system modification, new turbocharger, timing chain and 
>> tighteners, fuel lines, fuel injectors, catalytic converter with sensor, erg 
>> valve, head gaskets, exhaust gas cooler, exhaust pipe, oil cooler, both rear 
>> air bags, resealed vacuum pump, new expansion tank, etc."
>> 
>> Is all that typically necessary? Or was this a dealership taking an 
>> opportunity to charge a lot of work to an extended warranty plan?
>> 
>> Looks very clean.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

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I guess heat pumps have improved their efficiency since the 70s.

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> HSPF is 10.6.  The old Rheem indoor air handler/coil is rated at 16 Seer.
> I figured the unit as a whole would run 16.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jan 13, 2024, at 10:25 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes <
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> >
> > The new outdoor unit probably has a bigger coil and will make heat at a
> lower temp than the old one.
> >
> > If it's a "17 seer" unit, I'd expect a good bit less than that without a
> matching air handler/indoor coil. What's the HSPF on the outdoor unit, is
> it ten or better?
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Re: [MBZ] 2014 E350 - 94k miles - $13,500

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Palladium silver.  Ausgezeichnet!

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> Rebuilt title.
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Re: [MBZ] 2013 GL350 CDI - 149k miles - $10,300

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It's nice that all that expensive work has been completed, but the dents
and other flaws devalue the car.

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> "Complete Emission system modification, new turbocharger, timing chain and
> tighteners, fuel lines, fuel injectors, catalytic converter with sensor,
> erg valve, head gaskets, exhaust gas cooler, exhaust pipe, oil cooler, both
> rear air bags, resealed vacuum pump, new expansion tank, etc."
>
> Is all that typically necessary? Or was this a dealership taking an
> opportunity to charge a lot of work to an extended warranty plan?
>
> Looks very clean.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Random 300E, 2.8

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Yea I guess


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> So it a bit of a unicorn over there in rock country where the people are 
> crazy.
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>> On Jan 13, 2024, at 12:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Only available in 93 in the US. Before that it was the 103 2.6.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh so there was a 2.8.  I did not know that, never seen one.  Interesting
>>> 
>>> -_FT
>>> 
> On 1/13/24 1:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 Yep. Up to 92 they had the 260E aka 300E 2.6. Just a lower trim lower cost 
 124. This one will have the 2.8 version of the 104. Car looks clean but 
 may or might not be overpriced.
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1071450594102038/
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> Not sure I’ve ever seen one of these.
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[MBZ] 2014 E350 - 94k miles - $13,500

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Rebuilt title.

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[MBZ] 2013 GL350 CDI - 149k miles - $10,300

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"Complete Emission system modification, new turbocharger, timing chain and 
tighteners, fuel lines, fuel injectors, catalytic converter with sensor, erg 
valve, head gaskets, exhaust gas cooler, exhaust pipe, oil cooler, both rear 
air bags, resealed vacuum pump, new expansion tank, etc."

Is all that typically necessary? Or was this a dealership taking an opportunity 
to charge a lot of work to an extended warranty plan?

Looks very clean.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/cary-mercedes-benz-gl-350cdi-4matic/7707044909.html
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Re: [MBZ] Random 300E, 2.8

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So it a bit of a unicorn over there in rock country where the people are crazy. 

AZBob 

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> On Jan 13, 2024, at 12:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Only available in 93 in the US. Before that it was the 103 2.6.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 13, 2024, at 12:59 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh so there was a 2.8.  I did not know that, never seen one.  Interesting
>> 
>> -_FT
>> 
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>>> Yep. Up to 92 they had the 260E aka 300E 2.6. Just a lower trim lower cost 
>>> 124. This one will have the 2.8 version of the 104. Car looks clean but may 
>>> or might not be overpriced.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 13, 2024, at 11:36 AM, Bob Rentfro via 
> Mercedes  wrote:
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1071450594102038/
 
 Not sure I’ve ever seen one of these.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Random 300E, 2.8

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Only available in 93 in the US. Before that it was the 103 2.6. 

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> On Jan 13, 2024, at 12:59 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> Oh so there was a 2.8.  I did not know that, never seen one.  Interesting
> 
> -_FT
> 
>> On 1/13/24 1:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yep. Up to 92 they had the 260E aka 300E 2.6. Just a lower trim lower cost 
>> 124. This one will have the 2.8 version of the 104. Car looks clean but may 
>> or might not be overpriced.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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 Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1071450594102038/
>>> 
>>> Not sure I’ve ever seen one of these.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why are these things priced this high? 2012 Smart Car - $5, 995

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Divided among 10 clowns it's only $600 each.

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> Do people actually pay this much for these things?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Why are these things priced this high? 2012 Smart Car - $5, 995

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And when you get punted by a F-150 it is a very exciting ride!

-_FT

On 1/13/24 1:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

I drove one of these.  Easy to park with a rather zippy, yet jarring ride.

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 12:16 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Do people actually pay this much for these things?


https://louisville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/crestwood-2012-smart-car/7706821874.html

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Re: [MBZ] it does have a electrical issue 2007 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 550 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $4, 000

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Do these have grounding issues?

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> Could be an interesting project, miles not crazy
>
> sometimes the car drives fine when the electrical issue happens it will
> start messing up don't know tired of messing with it.
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Re: [MBZ] Random 300E, 2.8

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Oh so there was a 2.8.  I did not know that, never seen one.  Interesting

-_FT

On 1/13/24 1:46 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Yep. Up to 92 they had the 260E aka 300E 2.6. Just a lower trim lower cost 124. 
This one will have the 2.8 version of the 104. Car looks clean but may or might 
not be overpriced.
Sent from my iPhone


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Not sure I’ve ever seen one of these.

AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

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Cheaper than a $5 Craigslist listing.

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> Hey! This is a loading zone. You can't park here!
> We're not parking it. We're abandoning it.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GPNuZ1SaSI
>
>
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> > When my dad was at Harvard he got so sick of driving in Boston that one
> > day he just parked on some side street and walked away. He never heard
> > anything more about it and had no idea what happened to the car.
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Re: [MBZ] Why are these things priced this high? 2012 Smart Car - $5, 995

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I drove one of these.  Easy to park with a rather zippy, yet jarring ride.

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> Do people actually pay this much for these things?
>
>
> https://louisville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/crestwood-2012-smart-car/7706821874.html
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Re: [MBZ] Random 300E, 2.8

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Yep. Up to 92 they had the 260E aka 300E 2.6. Just a lower trim lower cost 124. 
This one will have the 2.8 version of the 104. Car looks clean but may or might 
not be overpriced. 
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Re: [MBZ] If It Won’t Sell on its Own, Make a Package

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I have lots of plans too.  Buy my failed plans.

--FT

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/382073307732774/
This guy has been trying to sell that clapped out 190D for years. He must have 
recently taken a marketing class or something.
Who is always wanting to make a rat rod?

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Re: [MBZ] obo just hmu

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lot of miles but doesn't look bad.  $1500

--FT

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/285172404545001/

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Re: [MBZ] Random 300E, 2.8

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2.6, the cheaper entry-level version.  A friend bought one a couple 
years old from his friend who was moving overseas for a job. Competent 
enough as a 124 but somewhat underpowered. I vaguely recall it might 
have been a Euro model the guy picked up over there, maybe a 4spd?


--FT

On 1/13/24 12:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1071450594102038/

Not sure I’ve ever seen one of these.

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[MBZ] Low Miles E500

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1770750113398911/

Would it kill people to actually clean their upholstery during their ownership?

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[MBZ] If It Won’t Sell on its Own, Make a Package

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/382073307732774/
This guy has been trying to sell that clapped out 190D for years. He must have 
recently taken a marketing class or something. 
Who is always wanting to make a rat rod?

AZBob

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[MBZ] obo just hmu

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/285172404545001/

AZBob 

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[MBZ] Random 300E, 2.8

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1071450594102038/

Not sure I’ve ever seen one of these. 

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Re: [MBZ] KLEB CAR!!!!

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Hey! This is a loading zone. You can't park here!
We're not parking it. We're abandoning it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GPNuZ1SaSI


On 2024-01-12 13:13, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
When my dad was at Harvard he got so sick of driving in Boston that one 
day he just parked on some side street and walked away. He never heard 
anything more about it and had no idea what happened to the car.




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[MBZ] Why are these things priced this high? 2012 Smart Car - $5, 995

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Do people actually pay this much for these things?

https://louisville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/crestwood-2012-smart-car/7706821874.html

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Re: [MBZ] 2005 ML 350 - 169k miles - $3,900

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Sounds about right.
All W163s had the M112/M113 series engines.
The M112 350s are 3.7L, the M272 350s are 3.5L.

On 2024-01-12 23:08, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

2006 i think

--FT
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On Jan 12, 2024, at 10:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:


When did they switch the ML350 to the M272 engine?



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[MBZ] Lost interest your gain 1929 Mercedes Kit car - $2, 500 (Interlachen)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This collection will get you into the 1929 Mercedes game very cheaply

I have a 1929 Mercedes kit car new in the crate. Also a complete 1929 
parts car was running when parked 2 years ago. It is sitting on a 1984 
chevy chevette frame. It will be the perfect donor car.


https://gainesville.craigslist.org/pts/d/interlachen-1929-mercedes-kit-car/7706741975.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT Torpedo Tender

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Are we talking about the thing that looks like it has a couple of white 
pickup truck bed toppers on it?


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Re: [MBZ] Way OT UFO UAP

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon

--FT

On 1/13/24 11:28 AM, MB list etc via Mercedes wrote:

OK - what is a UAP?




On Friday, January 12th, 2024 at 7:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via 
Mercedes  wrote:




I’ve kinda gone down a rathole recently watching utubers regarding UFOs and 
UAPs. There seems to be a lot of recent video evidence and very knowledgeable 
and experienced people speaking out about stuff. I’m maintaining some 
reasonable skepticism but I’m getting somewhat convinced there is a lot of 
kinda very interesting and possibly disturbing stuff out there that might be 
coming out soon. Or not, who knows. It’s still kinda crazy.

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[MBZ] it does have a electrical issue 2007 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 550 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $4, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Could be an interesting project, miles not crazy

sometimes the car drives fine when the electrical issue happens it will 
start messing up don't know tired of messing with it.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1054741825747782

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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

HSPF is 10.6.  The old Rheem indoor air handler/coil is rated at 16 Seer. I 
figured the unit as a whole would run 16. 

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> On Jan 13, 2024, at 10:25 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
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> 
> The new outdoor unit probably has a bigger coil and will make heat at a 
> lower temp than the old one.
> 
> If it's a "17 seer" unit, I'd expect a good bit less than that without a 
> matching air handler/indoor coil. What's the HSPF on the outdoor unit, is it 
> ten or better?
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT UFO UAP

[MB list etc via Mercedes]

OK - what is a UAP?




On Friday, January 12th, 2024 at 7:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> I’ve kinda gone down a rathole recently watching utubers regarding UFOs and 
> UAPs. There seems to be a lot of recent video evidence and very knowledgeable 
> and experienced people speaking out about stuff. I’m maintaining some 
> reasonable skepticism but I’m getting somewhat convinced there is a lot of 
> kinda very interesting and possibly disturbing stuff out there that might be 
> coming out soon. Or not, who knows. It’s still kinda crazy.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] New heat pump

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

The new outdoor unit probably has a bigger coil and will make heat at a 
lower temp than the old one.


If it's a "17 seer" unit, I'd expect a good bit less than that without a 
matching air handler/indoor coil. What's the HSPF on the outdoor unit, 
is it ten or better?


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[MBZ] New heat pump

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

After running in emergency mode on the heat pump since before Christmas, the 
new heat pump was installed Thursday by American Home Shield’s contractor. It’s 
a Lennox Merit series 5 ton unit which is their base models. It seems to run 
more quietly than that old Rheem. I asked the contractor for a quote to replace 
the inside air handler/coil at the same time which came out to a little over 
$5k. I considered doing it but decided not to since since AHS will have to 
replace it if it were to fail. This new unit is rated for 17 seer where the old 
one was 13. The Rheem inside unit is rated for up to 16 seer so I am going to 
assume that is what I will have with the overall system.

Yesterday it was in the low 20’s and unit ran almost continuously but didn’t 
notice aux heat coming on, and it kept the house very comfortable. Even set at 
the same temp as always it felt warmer in the house than the old Rheem. Maybe 
it was just my imagination. Currently it’s 10 outside and is supposed to get up 
to 18 by late this afternoon. I did notice it had had heat on a little while 
ago. At these temps I would expect it to come on periodically. Tonight will get 
down to below zero temps. 

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[MBZ] OT speaking of old fords

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

You want green?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/329466746446246/
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