Re: [MBZ] Gummit corruption
And Federal courts are always right? No. Get all of the facts before calling the man a thief. He is being bullied by thieves! Mike On Apr 11, 2014 10:11 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: That Federal Land has been Federal Land since long before Nevada became a state. Mr. Bundy is stealing US property for his own profit. Unless he has a land grant from the King of Spain prior to the Mexican War that is grandfathered in by the Treaty of Guadalupe y Hidalgo, he's not got a case. He has been ordered off the land TWICE by Federal Courts. This is nothing more than a common thief making things up so he can keep stealing. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How big is it?
How do they compare to Muck boots? Mike On Apr 4, 2014 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Just like my dress shoes. Two words: Allen Edmonds Newest pair is 16 years old. Oldest pair in excess of 20. Need to break down and buy a new pair of black loafers this year. Will probably cost me $300 unless I go to Port Washington this summer and attend their tent sale. Money very well spent. Dan Sent from my iPad On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a pair of made in the USA Red Wings and a pair of made in Italy hiking boots which are in fact my daily footwear. After 3 years my hikers need new soles. I'm debating seeing if I can find somebody to do the job or paying LL Bean for another pair. For dress shoes I have a pair of Italian shoes. I bought all the footwear listed above in 1 year and paid more than I'd paid in the previous 10. It was totally worth it. -Curt Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 22:40:09 -0500 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart: How big is it? Message-ID: calk3cy6godtep5g_ph8deavth4_l61+da1ylckzi+psu47x...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt wrote: I won't go back to cheap socks, my feet are too important to me. Chinese merino wool? Thanks for recommending darntough socks. What leather do you wear over the socks? I wear Red Wing carefully because they have lines that are china. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] SINCE WHEN (ot)
Because they would waste less bandwidth. If everyone would just quit complaining and arguing that would save a lot. And then there is the little button that looks like a trash can. Guess it would have been much easier than all of this typing. Mike On Apr 1, 2014 6:22 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: SINCE WHEN DID THIS LIST'S EMPHASIS CHANGE TO POLITICS? WHY NOT DETERIORATE FURTHER TO ARGUMENTS REGARDING RELIGION? G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Say it ain't so...
Do some more research. That is not what it is all about. With Common Core there is no time to teach. Each lesson is provided on a daily basis and on to the next the very next day with no time for the teacher to pass on the info. How can every student learn every lesson in 1 hour or less? Common core is for sheeple. Even our teachers are mostly against common core. Mike On Apr 1, 2014 12:10 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: I believe there are some problems with Common Core, but they are, so far as I can tell, mostly lack of clarity and lack of teaching materials. Hard to produce a set of textbooks following the curriculum in a matter of months. Indiana just ditched Common Core, but that is all about I cannot fathom the notion that there would be very much difference between that and any other standard curriculum unless there are some really bad ones out there -- after all, humans have been recording how to teach children for around 3000 years now. Can't be THAT much new under the sun. Most of the criticism of Common Core is that it's NIH (not invented here) and hence, since it's a Federal Standard, must be spawn of the devil and proponents must be burned at the stake as heretics with much howling and gnashing of teeth. The notion that local standards are better than a national one is a crock of excrement. I seriously doubt some flyspeck down at the end of a dirt road is gonna come up with something better. It's all about cranking up the radical right religious base, not education. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
I want my physician to be wealthy and happy. He will do a better job. The hospital owners and shareholders and such that think they deserve to be rich for providing the doctor a place to work are just as bad as the big box store scoundrels we all complain about. Mike On Mar 29, 2014 11:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: That's actually a good thing isn't it? Where is it written that every physician has to be wealthy. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Q: What´s the difference between an Obamacare HMO physician and a seagull? A: A seagull can still make a significant deposit on a Mercedes. ba-da-boom, I'll be here all week... --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Quitnyerfuckinwhinin. A German word some folks need to learn. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 8:46 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: yes, well, that would solve it. but this whole list is personal attacks and then the stupid mob piling on, so kaleb won't do it as he fears the attackers won't like him anymore On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: This is a common problem on many other lists. The most successful solution I've seen is to have only one rule: NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. If a member persists with personal attacks he/she will be suspended for 30 days. In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans, the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators whose only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions. The votes will be sent to someone on the list whom everyone trusts; usually the list owner ; and the list owner will then take the member off the list if a majority of moderators have agreed. Any time after 30 days the member can rejoin. Members can attack other members position on whatever is being discussed, but not other members personally. In the 8 years I've been on one list, only two members out of 150 were given 30 day suspensions and both returned as valuable list members. The fact that the rule is there and will be enforced has a very calming effect on members who tend to be too outspoken. Some hosting services have a way to conduct a survey of X number of moderators so that no moderators votes will be revealed. I don't know if Kalebs has one or not. Gerry On 3/22/2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Geez Gary. I guess I need banned then. Here's a personal attack...Hey Gary, you need to quityerfuckinwhinin. Ban away. I prefer to listen to teenage girls on Facebook. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 9:31 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: geez, another personal attack. what a surprise! On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Quitnyerfuckinwhinin. A German word some folks need to learn. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 8:46 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: yes, well, that would solve it. but this whole list is personal attacks and then the stupid mob piling on, so kaleb won't do it as he fears the attackers won't like him anymore On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: This is a common problem on many other lists. The most successful solution I've seen is to have only one rule: NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. If a member persists with personal attacks he/she will be suspended for 30 days. In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans, the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators whose only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions. The votes will be sent to someone on the list whom everyone trusts; usually the list owner ; and the list owner will then take the member off the list if a majority of moderators have agreed. Any time after 30 days the member can rejoin. Members can attack other members position on whatever is being discussed, but not other members personally. In the 8 years I've been on one list, only two members out of 150 were given 30 day suspensions and both returned as valuable list members. The fact that the rule is there and will be enforced has a very calming effect on members who tend to be too outspoken. Some hosting services have a way to conduct a survey of X number of moderators so that no moderators votes will be revealed. I don't know if Kalebs has one or not. Gerry On 3/22/2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
It's just like I tell my kids. It works for them, it will work for you. Quit whining and giving the bullies what they want. Simple. You don't respond because, well, you should always try to be a bigger man than your attacker. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 9:44 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: there is a vocal minority on this list who live to be bullies. the only solution is the one gerry suggests, that of zero tolerance towards personal attacks. but the moderator is asleep at the wheel and the majority has no will to to insist the solution be implemented. so what is left to do? On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Geez Gary. I guess I need banned then. Here's a personal attack...Hey Gary, you need to quityerfuckinwhinin. Ban away. I prefer to listen to teenage girls on Facebook. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 9:31 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: geez, another personal attack. what a surprise! On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Quitnyerfuckinwhinin. A German word some folks need to learn. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 8:46 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: yes, well, that would solve it. but this whole list is personal attacks and then the stupid mob piling on, so kaleb won't do it as he fears the attackers won't like him anymore On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: This is a common problem on many other lists. The most successful solution I've seen is to have only one rule: NO PERSONAL ATTACKS. If a member persists with personal attacks he/she will be suspended for 30 days. In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans, the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators whose only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions. The votes will be sent to someone on the list whom everyone trusts; usually the list owner ; and the list owner will then take the member off the list if a majority of moderators have agreed. Any time after 30 days the member can rejoin. Members can attack other members position on whatever is being discussed, but not other members personally. In the 8 years I've been on one list, only two members out of 150 were given 30 day suspensions and both returned as valuable list members. The fact that the rule is there and will be enforced has a very calming effect on members who tend to be too outspoken. Some hosting services have a way to conduct a survey of X number of moderators so that no moderators votes will be revealed. I don't know if Kalebs has one or not. Gerry On 3/22/2014 1:50 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Kaleb, it's time to start banning people for this. This is ridiculous. There are a few good people left on this list still, but posts like this seriously undermine what little community is left. The future of the list is at risk... It's already barely technical enough to be even slightly useful. How many people have unsubscribe in the last few days? Jaime On Friday, March 21, 2014, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Forgot to mention, I am glad and proud to be one of the few on this list with the guts to stand up to the condescending hypocritical crap that fats spews. Good description Hendrik! Actually, there are a lot more than 4 of us, just that only 4 of us are not afraid of the schoolyard bully. A spade is a spade. I am STILL WAITING for my refund of all the dollars I spent buying parts from fats, since he claims I never bought any parts from him. It amounts to several thousand dollars. He who expects to sell teile should not bite the hand of his (former) customer. It tends to drive away current and future customers. If anyone is in need of parts, I will be glad to point you to vendors who do not bite the customer. (no interest, no commissions, etc. just willing to help people find good sources for good parts.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A Sad Day, Indeed....
Dennis is a genious. He recently opened the DAMM Park.(Dennis Anderson's Muddy Motorsports Park) for a place for the locals to play. His signature is destruction, big money destruction and it makes him very wealthy. Mike On Mar 23, 2014 2:17 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Right up there with the guy who has the Gravedigger monster truck. That guy is a genius and must be a millionaire many times over. Dan On Mar 23, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: gene simmons is about the slickest marketer there is, so i wouldn't be too worried about him kiss came out of the neighborhood i grew up in. there were two european sports cars in my neighborhood, a 914 and an XKE. the XKE was owned by a the family of a guy who played bass in a band with stanley eisen (soon to be paul stanley). the band wasn't going anywhere, so he quit and presented the israeli guy as his replacement it worked out well for the band from that point on On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: When bands like KISS and Def Leppard have to resort to Groupon for sales: http://www.groupon.com/deals/gl-kiss-def-leppard-20?p=1utm_source=newsletterutm_medium=emailsid=e38cdcc1-7f2b-4528-b899-26f9283bf758division=tampa-bay-areauser=b716fb5fec119fb6b6fb7736705527e4e4e56d6307e0e57ec1615cceff56fc7adate=20140323s=bodyc=linkd=deal-pageutm_campaign=e38cdcc1-7f2b-4528-b899-26f9283bf758; And I thought it was bad when Barry Manilow was doing it Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Gary Hurst
Wow. I can't believe I just wasted all the time it took to read this. This is half of the reason most of my mail from this group gets deleted, unread. I love to hear Wilton's tales and the other non-Benz drivel. I hate feeling like I am listening to my teenage daughters in disguise. As, usual Grant says it best. Wise fellow there. But not just Gary needs to listen. Let's be logical men about the situation...if you can't get along quit having internet balls and attacking people who you would never say boo too in person! I am so tired of how confrontational folks are when there is no personal interaction. Mike On Mar 21, 2014 9:17 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Grant, how is it you've stayed around here so long while making so much sense? Just a soft spot for us I suppose. :) A few months ago over on the TDI club I chastised somebody for whining with a STFU comment. I forget exactly what he was crying about but he sounded like a pre-teen girl. After posting I got a little nervous that maybe I'd get banned and then decided screw it, who cares? Well it turns out the guy was a long time whiner and after I called him out a bunch of people piled on. He acted all offended, typical city-folk response when confronted with redneck sensibility. -Curt Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:35:35 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gary Hurst Message-ID: cantulyjw3zl4iqzm7qrsvlszzg_8_5w0wqikb_6kw5u2+sf...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Really.. do we have to go through a PMS cycle every few days and listen to this drivel about who hurt who's feelings? Grow up, man up, and shut up. Gary.. apparently you are fat and ugly and will never play professional basket ball and can't sing.. ... live with it. Everyone else has to. Sell parts, try.. really try.. to stop being caustic and insulting.. it will amaze you how few will then pick on you.. If you do not have a copy of How to win friends and influence enemies get one.. if you can not afford to buy one.. I will buy it for you.. But for Gawds sake.. tone down and tune out the I'm being picked on stuff.. I have to fight back stuff.. and the you made me be a bad guy stuff.. I went through it with my kids at age 3.. I don't wish to revisit it here.. 4 days of this is more than a lifetime worth.. Even the ex didn't stay PMS that long.. and I fired her.. Please, and Thank you, Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gary Hurst
Gary is whining about being a victim, again. Sorry man, but this is getting really old. Mike On Mar 21, 2014 11:26 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I'm not really sure what is going on here or who is calling who what but it needs to stop immediately. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2014, at 10:58 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Consider yourself bitch slapped for opening your mouth yet again about this tired issue. SHUT THE FUCK UP... forever. Stop your whining. Or.. go to the parking lot and practice falling down and bleeding.. your choice. No one listens to you. No one has a duty to listen to you. Get it. Stop it. Do not respond. You have been rebuked and put on ignore, yet again. On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you aren't paying attention at all and just ramble on with the stupid. what point is there to try to explain it you once again? On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 10:36 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Gary, Somehow, you have developed the fantasy that you are the Muhammad Ali of Mouth.. you are not. Sell parts, Practice civility, and be Nice, or join what's his name, the thief, liar, and cheat in the long list of people that other people find unworthy to spend their life dealing with. Apparently, something in your genetic code requires you to abrade others. Fix yourself, or get professional help, but stop doing it here. The next post I want to see should have no caustic comments to anyone, from anyone. End it now, end it forever. I would not tolerate is with one of my employees, one of my family, or even a casual acquaintance. If I heard ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gary Hurst
I feel left out. Who should I sue? Mike On Mar 21, 2014 8:24 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Grant wrote: Please demonstrate, by your actions, your abilities to address and respect your fellow man with civil responses. Show us how this is done, please. We like Grant, we also like Gary, we like Kaleb, we like Curt, we like Craig, we like Marshall, we like Roger, we like Wilton, we love Sondrestrom, etc... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gary Hurst
You are on to something. If you sue yourself are you schizophrenic in the eyes of the court and therefore eleigible for ssi? Mike On Mar 21, 2014 8:40 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Mike wrote: I feel left out. Who should I sue? Lessee... We need an attorney for this class action suit. I didn't see my name in my list either. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Watch a man get shot by Drone
Used to be Mike On Mar 8, 2014 10:06 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Isn't that called a wife? --R (ducking...) On 3/7/14 8:52 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: How about a cooking machine that can prepared a fantastic meal and then clean up? A laundry that is automated, throw in you dirty stuff and ironed folded clean stuff comes out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cut the arguing
Obviously because you like the abuse. If I felt I was being abused by a group of people I would get away from that group. You, on the other hand, do all that you can to try to kiss this group's ass for no apparent reason other than..well, who knows why? I am not trying to slam you Gary. I just don't understand why you would go through what appears to be a lot of trouble for you just to satisfy a few folks on a mailing list. Mike On Mar 3, 2014 10:09 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i guess i wonder why you pick out the things that are not slander to prove i've gone too far talking about the things that are slander and why do i need to be under attack here anyway? On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it is slander to say i am selling the exact same parts as AZ, as this is generally not so. those who buy a bundle of parts from me will end up with a very different bundle than they might get from AZ, even if some parts, like these bilstein parts, might overlap. you are very quick to pronounce that i have gone too far without even looking at the specific issue i am addressing. yes, a bilstein shock is a bilstein shock and i'd like to get 10% more than AZ for that shock for the hundreds if not thousands i will save you by keeping you out of the dismal chinese they will also happily sell you and for numerous other reasons as well. every one of you who has bought both from me and AZ knows the difference between the two yet this one character who has no business with me goes on and on and on and on for year now against me and all just let it slide and any answer i might give puts me as gone too far i have treated all of you who do business with me extremely well. it is not right how i am publicly treated here On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Its not slander to say that when ordering a Bilstein shock from you or from AZ you get the same thing. Its not slander to say that AZ has treated Loren well any more than its slander for me to say AZ has not treated me well. You were doing well in this argument but have gone to far... -Curt Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 08:56:16 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cut the arguing Message-ID: caciok3uwp6phlzrsgz4jqkfldk4t-tva8w_d48qpfrqz0zm...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 it's slander. i'm not generally shipping the same products as AZ. i'm not offering the same level of service. i have two guys here who slander me viciously on a regular basis and i am not allowed to respond. why is it tolerated generally and specifically by list administration? here's a guy who does not buy from me but is an expert on what i do and do not ship people. then he concludes that i must be banned. you are rotten people to allow this to continue now for almost a year unabated. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cut the arguing
I say I wonder why you don't, not that you should. I say I would not put up with it or I would ignore it. Not bitch about it all of the time. Ignore a bully and they go away. Get mad and retaliate and they smile and pick more. I don't have anything against you Gary, I just question your reasoning for putting up with something that bothers you so much. Mike On Mar 3, 2014 3:54 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i have a few friends, such as you, fred. i have a couple of ardent enemies. and then there is a whole bunch who just wait to see which side the mob is moving towards and joins with venom. the two enemies i have, who attack me regularly, are rarely questioned, should i respond to them even one time in ten. i need to go. michael canfield suggests that if i don't like the abuse, i ought to leave. well, i guess so On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Gary, et al. Gary, you are a big man in all ways, could you not take the high road and ignore the Lilli-putz? If someone were ragging on me I'd find it amusing that someone of their education and experience could not come up with something more original. Maybe we need a super-hero, Prince Valium perhaps? Please be comforted by knowing that you are (mostly) among friends. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 3, 2014 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cut the arguing it's slander. i'm not generally shipping the same products as AZ. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ALDA
So it basically keeps folks from overfueling and burning up their engines pulling big hills? So keep your foot out of the throttle and watch the exhaust for smoke if your ALDA is deleted right? Mike On Feb 21, 2014 9:26 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: The ALDA is critical for getting extra power from the turbo. The turbo just adds more air, which (by itself) doesn't make more power. The ALDA causes the IP to add the extra fuel to generate power with the additional air. The ALDA has a rod that pushes down on a linkage in the IP to *reduce* the amount of injected fuel. Intake manifold pressure is routed to the ALDA to raise the rod when manifold pressure increases. I believe the engine would run very rich (except at max boost) with the ALDA removed. Correct, at one altitude. The ADA was introduced as altitude compensation, and if you ever drove a non Altitude compensated Diesel over I80 in CO, then you appreciate the device. With the turbo models, the ADA became the ALDA. Part of the function of the ALDA is reducing fuel as the car gains altitude. Even at 4000 ft driving from Ka'u to Hilo on the island of Hawaii, an ADA or ALDA is appreciated. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014
They are one of the most inefficient wood/coal stoves out there. Fed one of them for many years growing up. Wouldn't have one in my house. Mike On Feb 16, 2014 8:28 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: You burn coal? My parents have a very old coal stove from a railroad caboose, I remember Dad pulling it out of the remains of the caboose in the woods behind some guy's house. We've got a Jotul woodstove but wood is kinda spendy and a lot of work compared to coal. I saw a video on Vimeo about the Chubby stove http://chubbystove.com/ which looked real good. Unlike my parent's stove its got an ash pan and can be shaken with the door closed keeping the ash under control. I found a place nearby that has bagged coal for $310/ton. I've read that 1 ton of coal equals 3 cords of wood. I'm thinking that 2 tons of coal would easily heat our house with less work than wood and cheaper than wood or oil. The nice thing is that it can still burn wood, lots of people give me wood so thats free heat. I've got Angie mostly convinced. The old WonderWood/WonderCoal stoves are pretty decent, if you like the 1960 styling. My parents have a barely used (wood only) WonderCoal, but shipping to you would kill the deal. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014
The Wonder. I used to say they call them that because after a winter you wonder where all of your wood went. Used to shove 2 face cords or so of wood in one every week to heat a 14x70 trailer with 12x20 well insulated addition. That was a lot of work! They are a light guage firebox that warps if you burn it hot. The coal models are much better than the wood only but still there are much better out there. I like the Jotul stoves but they are so small it seems impossible to get a long burn unless you are only heating one room. Check out the Hitzer 30-95. I think you will like it. They are pricey new but seem pretty cheap on Craigslist. I have less than a grand in two of them a triple wall chimney and 2 ton of coal by watching closely. Mike On Feb 16, 2014 9:43 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Which, the wonder or the Chubby? -Curt Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 09:03:36 -0500 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014 Message-ID: calhj_1aj__nvdgovapqw96dot3qqmtrezpr89e-uvv81q-+...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 They are one of the most inefficient wood/coal stoves out there. Fed one of them for many years growing up. Wouldn't have one in my house. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014
Ahhh, only ones I have seen were quite small. If your stove is that big and you have to stoke it every hour then you need to learn how to burn it properly. With well seasoned wood you should be able to build up a bed of coals and keep a decent fire all night long with no creosote buildup to speak of. If you are tending a stove that big every hour you are just sending heat up the chimney and wasting a crapload of wood. Mike On Feb 16, 2014 9:28 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Jotul makes a lot of stoves, mine is a 318, the big one. Takes a 24 log. I've seen bigger stoves but those were made from 55 gallon drums. -Curt Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 10:59:11 -0500 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014 Message-ID: calhj_1dvjuzowmpguk4prs_znkxb+nos5qopjoc73njcjdv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The Wonder. I used to say they call them that because after a winter you wonder where all of your wood went. Used to shove 2 face cords or so of wood in one every week to heat a 14x70 trailer with 12x20 well insulated addition. That was a lot of work! They are a light guage firebox that warps if you burn it hot. The coal models are much better than the wood only but still there are much better out there. I like the Jotul stoves but they are so small it seems impossible to get a long burn unless you are only heating one room. Check out the Hitzer 30-95. I think you will like it. They are pricey new but seem pretty cheap on Craigslist. I have less than a grand in two of them a triple wall chimney and 2 ton of coal by watching closely. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014
Blizzards and ice storms used to be the norm here. We don't worry. Small generator will run the pump and fridge. Coal stoves will burn as long as we can shovel a path to the coal pile just outside the back door. Just a day off with the kids. Mike On Feb 14, 2014 6:33 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I've been through a number of them. I'll take a hurricane over a blizzard, ice storm or tornado any day. Dan On Feb 14, 2014, at 6:30 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: That hurricane might just roll you. Randy On 14/02/2014 5:28 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Thanks, Gerry, but I've done my time. Twice. Much as I enjoy four seasons, I don't miss the lack of sunlight or the cold. As for hurricanes, I'll roll the dice. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014
I figure there should be enough hot air there that there really is no need for one. Mike On Feb 14, 2014 7:32 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I hear you Dimitri! Ariens all the way! Still proudly using the 1969 model I bought in 1985. So it needs oil once in awhile. Jon For a snowblower, Ariens is the way to go. Avoid the MTD stuff under most other labels! Mine is only 10 yrs old, but like new. But andrew is in DC, and they don't sell snowblowers in DC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014
Hi Curt, Yes we burn coal. I have had an Alaska stoker upstairs for years and an old Fisher Papa Bear wood stove downstairs. I love wood heat but recently stumbled on a deal on a Hitzer hopper stove. I took out the wood stove in favor of the Hitzer. I like it so much I sold my Alaska and bought another just like it for upstairs. Hitzer model 30-95, requires no electric to burn, crank out heat like no tomorrow if you want or will burn 24 hours on a 30 pound hopper on low. Shaker grates and a nice ash pan keep it neat. 2 of them are keeping a drafty 1800+ square foot farmhouse with almost no insulation and an open12 foot balloon frame tin roof at 70 when it was 0F out and burning about $12-15 worth of coal a day to do it. Not cheap, but the house is drafty, the windows suck and we were burning a crapload of wood and not staying as warm. We tend these twice a day and leave them be. I thought the Alaska was great until I got a real coal stove. The stoker is noisy and requires electricity. I only need that for the fan to circulate now so less on that bill by a little. The Hitzer is Amish made and I have spoken with the owner of the company who will get on the phone and answer any questions. They will also sell parts direct at a very good price. Check them out at hitzer.com Mike On Feb 14, 2014 9:23 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You burn coal? My parents have a very old coal stove from a railroad caboose, I remember Dad pulling it out of the remains of the caboose in the woods behind some guy's house. We've got a Jotul woodstove but wood is kinda spendy and a lot of work compared to coal. I saw a video on Vimeo about the Chubby stove http://chubbystove.com/ which looked real good. Unlike my parent's stove its got an ash pan and can be shaken with the door closed keeping the ash under control. I found a place nearby that has bagged coal for $310/ton. I've read that 1 ton of coal equals 3 cords of wood. I'm thinking that 2 tons of coal would easily heat our house with less work than wood and cheaper than wood or oil. The nice thing is that it can still burn wood, lots of people give me wood so thats free heat. I've got Angie mostly convinced. -Curt Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 19:30:00 -0500 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snowpocalypse 2014 Message-ID: calhj_1dyd7gtchyynu1jyrmde760odzmz2znlgpqkmhycay...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Blizzards and ice storms used to be the norm here. We don't worry. Small generator will run the pump and fridge. Coal stoves will burn as long as we can shovel a path to the coal pile just outside the back door. Just a day off with the kids. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm back!
Ok, so why in the world would they turn around and land where the damned worst storm since '73 is supposed to hit? They don't need a tire to fly the thing somewhere safer to land right? Wtf? Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vehicle diesel and Kerosene - Compatible?
Never try anything but K1 kero in a wick type heater. If you can even get ULSD to light you will ruin your entire house with the smell and possibly die of carbon monoxide poisoning in the process. The wood will keep you warm. Mike On Feb 11, 2014 1:38 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi all, we are expecting a big storm tomorrow evening and previous storms left us without power for as much as 12 days. with the current cold weather I am concerned about keeping the house warm. we have a wood stove insert and are getting a load of wood this afternoon as a potential backup heat source but we also have a Kerosene Heater that I use in the garage. I have a supply of Kerosene but it will only last a day or 2 -- would it be acceptable to use some diesel from one of the MBs in a Kerosene heater if need be? Last time the gas stations in a 15 mile radius were also without power Thanks - -- Sincerely, Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hotlanta?
On Feb 12, 2014 11:27 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: See next email. On the way now, I just know they are going to screw me and strand me there tomorrow. Hey Kaleb, WTF did you do to piss off Karma? Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] US company recalls 4,000 tons of contaminated beef
Well, kinda like a Snickers bar but bigger, slimier, and apparently not very satisfying. Mike On Feb 9, 2014 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Wtf are beef bars? On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 2:54 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Rancho Feeding Corp of Petaluma, a California-based company, is recalling 3,950 tons of beef bars because it used diseased and unsound animals, the USDA said. The beef, which also lacked proper federal inspections, was produced between January 1 and January 7 and is unfit for human consumption. The meat was shipped to California, Florida, Illinois and Texas, the department's Food Safety and Inspection Service said in a statement. That's a lot of beef. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] US company recalls 4,000 tons of contaminated beef
There, I trimmed, is that lean enough to save bandwidth? Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] US company recalls 4,000 tons of contaminated beef
But Gary, I thought you were into well trimmed beef? Ummm, I better stop now or I is gonna get banned. Lol Mike On Feb 9, 2014 11:15 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: y'know, i'm not that interested in your personal grooming habits On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: There, I trimmed, is that lean enough to save bandwidth? Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] US company recalls 4,000 tons of contaminated beef
ROTFLMAO, Gary! Mike On Feb 9, 2014 11:29 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i just don't like the idea of possibly offending someone cause, y'know, that's the sort of thing that keeps me up nights with worry On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: But Gary, I thought you were into well trimmed beef? Ummm, I better stop now or I is gonna get banned. Lol Mike On Feb 9, 2014 11:15 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: y'know, i'm not that interested in your personal grooming habits On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: There, I trimmed, is that lean enough to save bandwidth? Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] US company recalls 4,000 tons of contaminated beef
I will never learn. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] US company recalls 4,000 tons of contaminated beef
Curt said: Too much. You should have sent: I say; So, too lean is bad, like beef. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] US company recalls 4,000 tons of contaminated bee
On Feb 9, 2014 6:48 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Mike, Thank you for trimming. And I hope you weren't talking about personal grooming habits. Ooo.. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Roger, You're welcome. Guess the other is just gonna have to be your guess. Mike Who is a little slow but does catch on Wait, Hendrick, I am trimming and putting silly lines under my name. I think I need to work on my Benz...confusion is setting in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product
I can understand vegetarian. Good diet makes sense. Vegan just plain goes too far. Separation of church and food should be. Mike On Feb 7, 2014 7:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I can go vegan for a day, but it's tough to last much longer. That being said, my health is decent so I don't feel the need to cure anything by changing my diet. On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it's amazing how the frozen pizza, kfc snarfing, snickers bar crowd are so concerned about the dangers of veganism On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Its like running WVO in a diesel engine, I'm not opposed to it, I'm opposed to doing it badly. Unfortunately most people do it badly... You hit the nail on the head below with carefully constructed most people just shovel whatever into their gaping maw and call it nutrition. -Curt Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 19:16:11 -0500 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product Message-ID: CAC35L=vhG6guT8xohxABEyKa5ppN1h4Om=jS9oigPrL= fdo...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My son is an awesome physical specimen - 5'10 and 170 lbs., a martial arts expert (krav maga) and vegan for the past 16 or so years. It's amazing what a carefully constructed vegan diet can accomplish. Equally amazing is how many troglodytes there are who stuboornly maintain witout a shred of evidence that vegan diets are bad for you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product
I'll take eggs. Mike On Feb 7, 2014 1:27 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: With about 30% of their calories from protein, lentils have the third-highest level of proteinhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_%28nutrient%29, by weight, of any legume or nut, after soybeanshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soybeanand hemp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-3Proteins include the essential amino acids http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_amino_acid isoleucinehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isoleucineand lysine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysine, and lentils are an essential source of inexpensive protein in many parts of the world, especially in West Asia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Asia and the Indian subcontinenthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_subcontinent, which have large vegetarian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianismpopulations. [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-4 Lentils are deficient in two essential amino acids, methioninehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methionineand cysteine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cysteine.[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-5However, sprouted lentils contain sufficient levels of all essential amino acids, including methionine and cysteine.[6]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-6 Lentils also contain dietary fiber http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber, folate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folate, vitamin B1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B1, and minerals. Red (or pink) lentils contain a lower concentration of fiber than green lentils (11% rather than 31%).[7]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-7 *Health* magazine has selected lentils as one of the five healthiest foods.[ 8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-Raymond_2006-8 The low levels of Readily Digestible Starch (RDS) 5%, and high levels of Slowly Digested Starch (SDS) 30%, make lentils of great interest to people with diabetes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes. The remaining 65% of the starch is a resistant starchhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistant_starchthat is classified RS1, [9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-9 being a high quality resistant starch, which is 32% amylose http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amylose . -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product
Instead of lentilsyuk. Mike On Feb 7, 2014 1:35 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: with your lentils? On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I'll take eggs. Mike On Feb 7, 2014 1:27 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: With about 30% of their calories from protein, lentils have the third-highest level of proteinhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_%28nutrient%29, by weight, of any legume or nut, after soybeanshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soybeanand hemp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-3Proteins include the essential amino acids http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_amino_acid isoleucinehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isoleucineand lysine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysine, and lentils are an essential source of inexpensive protein in many parts of the world, especially in West Asia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Asia and the Indian subcontinenthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_subcontinent, which have large vegetarian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianismpopulations. [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-4 Lentils are deficient in two essential amino acids, methioninehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methionineand cysteine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cysteine.[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-5However, sprouted lentils contain sufficient levels of all essential amino acids, including methionine and cysteine.[6]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-6 Lentils also contain dietary fiber http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber, folate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folate, vitamin B1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B1, and minerals. Red (or pink) lentils contain a lower concentration of fiber than green lentils (11% rather than 31%).[7]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-7 *Health* magazine has selected lentils as one of the five healthiest foods.[ 8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-Raymond_2006-8 The low levels of Readily Digestible Starch (RDS) 5%, and high levels of Slowly Digested Starch (SDS) 30%, make lentils of great interest to people with diabetes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes. The remaining 65% of the starch is a resistant starchhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistant_starchthat is classified RS1, [9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-9 being a high quality resistant starch, which is 32% amylose http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amylose . -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product
And Bacon! Mike On Feb 7, 2014 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Flapjacks. With lots of syrup. Just made some last weekend. Yum. On Feb 7, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Instead of lentilsyuk. Mike On Feb 7, 2014 1:35 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: with your lentils? On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I'll take eggs. Mike On Feb 7, 2014 1:27 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: With about 30% of their calories from protein, lentils have the third-highest level of proteinhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_%28nutrient%29, by weight, of any legume or nut, after soybeanshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soybeanand hemp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemp.[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-3Proteins include the essential amino acids http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_amino_acid isoleucinehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isoleucineand lysine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysine, and lentils are an essential source of inexpensive protein in many parts of the world, especially in West Asia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Asia and the Indian subcontinenthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_subcontinent, which have large vegetarian http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianismpopulations. [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-4 Lentils are deficient in two essential amino acids, methioninehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methionineand cysteine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cysteine.[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-5However, sprouted lentils contain sufficient levels of all essential amino acids, including methionine and cysteine.[6]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-6 Lentils also contain dietary fiber http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber, folate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folate, vitamin B1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B1, and minerals. Red (or pink) lentils contain a lower concentration of fiber than green lentils (11% rather than 31%).[7]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-7 *Health* magazine has selected lentils as one of the five healthiest foods.[ 8] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-Raymond_2006-8 The low levels of Readily Digestible Starch (RDS) 5%, and high levels of Slowly Digested Starch (SDS) 30%, make lentils of great interest to people with diabetes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes. The remaining 65% of the starch is a resistant starchhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistant_starchthat is classified RS1, [9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lentil#cite_note-9 being a high quality resistant starch, which is 32% amylose http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amylose . -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I still say eggs for protein. Cheap, plentiful and millions of Mexicans can't be wrong. Mexico is the largest consumer of eggs in the world. Mike On Feb 7, 2014 4:15 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: soybeans are all GMO monsanto crap, which is enough for me to keep away from them. they are also reputed to be estrogenic in unfermented form. i think they are worth avoiding, so i do. it is well understood by the natives (at least outside of africa) that beans are not a complete protein . note the latin types are always eating beans in conjunction with something else, generally rice. this fear americans have of ending up under proteined is unfounded to the point of being bizarre On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:35 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: According to one source soy beans are the only beans that have complete protein: As many people are aware, beans and legumes are a very protein rich source of food. In addition to being high in protein, they also have a high concentration of vitamins and minerals. These nutritional qualities make them a popular choice for vegetarians, although other people can benefit from eating beans as well. Although only soybeans http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-soybeans.htm contain complete proteins by themselves, all varieties have a fair amount of protein in every serving although some are higher in protein than others. Beans should be cooked thoroughly to avoid intestinal discomfort and its sometimes socially undesirable symptoms.The superpower of the bean world is soybeans, which contain 29 grams for every 1 cup (172 g) cooked serving. Edamame, green soybeans which are picked before full maturity, have 22 grams of protein in every cooked 1 cup (180 g) serving. They can be added to salads or eaten like a snack food, or made into foods like tofu and tempeh http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-tempeh.htm. There are lots of ways to use soy in cooking, but chefs should try not to go overboard, as it is possible to eat too much of a good thing. http://www.wisegeek.com/which-beans-have-the-most-protein.htm Gerry On 2/7/2014 3:06 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: it is stated lentils are a complete protein when sprouted quinoa and buckwheat are complete proteins just simmered in boiling water for 15 minutes, so they are easiest and fastest On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: They're not a complete protein though, for that you want quinoa which is also much easier to cook. Or rather easier to cook and not make a disaster out of. -Curt Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 13:26:58 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product Message-ID: CACioK3tpvT4+yGQUfiR_GoaMhe5EqT7VYp-5qHN2L= sembh...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 With about 30% of their calories from protein, lentils have the third-highest level of protein ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Lol. I am anti-lentil. Almost as much as anti- chick pea. Mike On Feb 7, 2014 4:37 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'm not being anti eggs. i'm being pro lentils. my whole conversation was about lentils being a dan gordon kind of food i eat eggs. i don't like their texture so much and i like stuff with fiber, so i don't eat so many of them. really, i'm more a roughage junky than anything else On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I still say eggs for protein. Cheap, plentiful and millions of Mexicans can't be wrong. Mexico is the largest consumer of eggs in the world. Mike On Feb 7, 2014 4:15 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: soybeans are all GMO monsanto crap, which is enough for me to keep away from them. they are also reputed to be estrogenic in unfermented form. i think they are worth avoiding, so i do. it is well understood by the natives (at least outside of africa) that beans are not a complete protein . note the latin types are always eating beans in conjunction with something else, generally rice. this fear americans have of ending up under proteined is unfounded to the point of being bizarre On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:35 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: According to one source soy beans are the only beans that have complete protein: As many people are aware, beans and legumes are a very protein rich source of food. In addition to being high in protein, they also have a high concentration of vitamins and minerals. These nutritional qualities make them a popular choice for vegetarians, although other people can benefit from eating beans as well. Although only soybeans http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-soybeans.htm contain complete proteins by themselves, all varieties have a fair amount of protein in every serving although some are higher in protein than others. Beans should be cooked thoroughly to avoid intestinal discomfort and its sometimes socially undesirable symptoms.The superpower of the bean world is soybeans, which contain 29 grams for every 1 cup (172 g) cooked serving. Edamame, green soybeans which are picked before full maturity, have 22 grams of protein in every cooked 1 cup (180 g) serving. They can be added to salads or eaten like a snack food, or made into foods like tofu and tempeh http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-tempeh.htm. There are lots of ways to use soy in cooking, but chefs should try not to go overboard, as it is possible to eat too much of a good thing. http://www.wisegeek.com/which-beans-have-the-most-protein.htm Gerry On 2/7/2014 3:06 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: it is stated lentils are a complete protein when sprouted quinoa and buckwheat are complete proteins just simmered in boiling water for 15 minutes, so they are easiest and fastest On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: They're not a complete protein though, for that you want quinoa which is also much easier to cook. Or rather easier to cook and not make a disaster out of. -Curt Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 13:26:58 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product Message-ID: CACioK3tpvT4+yGQUfiR_GoaMhe5EqT7VYp-5qHN2L= sembh...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 With about 30% of their calories from protein, lentils have the third-highest level of protein ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I will. Can you come up with a way to make eggs work in place of lentils in soup? Boiled? No. Lentil soup rocks except the beans... Just bustin on ya a bit man. No offense meant. Mike On Feb 7, 2014 4:53 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: so eat eggs then On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Lol. I am anti-lentil. Almost as much as anti- chick pea. Mike On Feb 7, 2014 4:37 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i'm not being anti eggs. i'm being pro lentils. my whole conversation was about lentils being a dan gordon kind of food i eat eggs. i don't like their texture so much and i like stuff with fiber, so i don't eat so many of them. really, i'm more a roughage junky than anything else On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I still say eggs for protein. Cheap, plentiful and millions of Mexicans can't be wrong. Mexico is the largest consumer of eggs in the world. Mike On Feb 7, 2014 4:15 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: soybeans are all GMO monsanto crap, which is enough for me to keep away from them. they are also reputed to be estrogenic in unfermented form. i think they are worth avoiding, so i do. it is well understood by the natives (at least outside of africa) that beans are not a complete protein . note the latin types are always eating beans in conjunction with something else, generally rice. this fear americans have of ending up under proteined is unfounded to the point of being bizarre On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:35 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: According to one source soy beans are the only beans that have complete protein: As many people are aware, beans and legumes are a very protein rich source of food. In addition to being high in protein, they also have a high concentration of vitamins and minerals. These nutritional qualities make them a popular choice for vegetarians, although other people can benefit from eating beans as well. Although only soybeans http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-soybeans.htm contain complete proteins by themselves, all varieties have a fair amount of protein in every serving although some are higher in protein than others. Beans should be cooked thoroughly to avoid intestinal discomfort and its sometimes socially undesirable symptoms.The superpower of the bean world is soybeans, which contain 29 grams for every 1 cup (172 g) cooked serving. Edamame, green soybeans which are picked before full maturity, have 22 grams of protein in every cooked 1 cup (180 g) serving. They can be added to salads or eaten like a snack food, or made into foods like tofu and tempeh http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-tempeh.htm. There are lots of ways to use soy in cooking, but chefs should try not to go overboard, as it is possible to eat too much of a good thing. http://www.wisegeek.com/which-beans-have-the-most-protein.htm Gerry On 2/7/2014 3:06 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: it is stated lentils are a complete protein when sprouted quinoa and buckwheat are complete proteins just simmered in boiling water for 15 minutes, so they are easiest and fastest On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: They're not a complete protein though, for that you want quinoa which is also much easier to cook. Or rather easier to cook and not make a disaster out of. -Curt Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 13:26:58 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] lentils are a dan gordon style food product Message-ID: CACioK3tpvT4+yGQUfiR_GoaMhe5EqT7VYp-5qHN2L= sembh...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 With about 30% of their calories from protein, lentils have the third-highest level of protein ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Is that better? Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Icepocalyspe
Biggest difference is road surface. Southern roads are smoother and ice up like a skating rink. Mike On Jan 30, 2014 3:53 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: A couple of differences between snow in the South and in the North are that it's often been warm prior to the snow in the South - the first ¼ of snow melts on contact with the road then freezes to ice while the rest of the snow covers it. This happens almost every time. Makes driving tricky. The other issue is the size of the population area that is reporting the gridlock, shutdowns, etc. the smaller towns/cities don't have much of an issue with snow. It's the million plus cars trying to get home all at once that cause the problems. We often get rain turning to snow in the north. slush freezes with snow on top. That does not count for the inability of southerners to drive on snow. Do the southern cities really have that many more cars than say CHicago? I doubt there is much difference, or fewer cars. Biggest differences are ill equipped and ill trained road crews and supervision along with masses of drivers that don't know how to drive. However with the proliferation of 4wd cars and SUVs, the latter is pretty ubiquitous. In a one mile stretch along i-35 north of Des moines in every snow there is an average of 40 or so vehicles spun out in the ditch, and most are 4wd SUVs, with over half rolled. THat is just plain stupidity. Sometimes it is so bad that there is no place to slide off without hitting some other moron. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Icepocalyspe
Be there The Day After Tomorrow. Mike On Jan 29, 2014 10:58 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: We have about 1/2 of snow and some frozen stuff under that. Region completely paralyzed. Bridges closed, our islands are isolated! Send FEMA! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MAO NE = Mad and opinionated New England
And a well placed tug at that. I think that may deserve an Attaboy! Mike On Jan 28, 2014 11:13 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: A Hendrik.. I just could not resist the chance to pull your chain a bit. I owe you at least one adult beverage of your choice. [kitchen pass is up to your missus, of course]. Grant... On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Lets not go there again. Hendrik who sort of knows when to move on On 29/01/14 13:45, G Mann wrote: Hendrik finds Mao hat.. it has free shipping... yes.. I see a connection there.. Having a good chuckle over that ... way to go Hendrik.. :))) Grant... who is not the world king of free shipping like Hendrik.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hazet Valve Wrenches Was: Re: 85 people
If you would care to start a list I need to rent a set to do my 83 when the weather gets warm. Be glad to pay postage and the cost of a couple brews to go with those dogs. Mike On Jan 27, 2014 7:20 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Jan 27, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I remember 12 years ago I routinely borrowed Hazet valve adjust wrenches from a guy on Long Island. He would ship to me, I would ship them back. So I paid the post office for passage. That worked until I found some Hazet wrenches from a dealer closeout in CA. That kind of giving rather than receiving. Good. Can I borrow them in the next couple weeks (if it ever warms up)? I'll buy you a couple dogs at GJ's. :) Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hazet Valve Wrenches Was: Re: 85 people
NY here. Mike On Jan 27, 2014 8:43 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Mike wrote: If you would care to start a list I need to rent a set to do my 83 when the weather gets warm. Let's do it. Are you in CA? - will metal wrenches make it over the border? Rick can mail to you, you mail them on to next person on list, or back to me. So, we got one useful thing happening - what's next? ...lessee... I need... no, I gotta get rid of stuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way beyond OT: Flying with a grown, 18 lb. cat
Ouch, poor Jabba. Lol. Good one Mitch. Mike On Jan 26, 2014 10:58 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: How small a carrier will he fit in? Craig For an instant there, I thought you were talking about naval vessels and sexy parts vendors. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WHAT DRIVES SUCCESS IN AMERICA?
On a similar note, years ago, Ford noticed they were having a lot of trouble with Ranger transmissions going bad. They had 2 plants building what were supposed to be identical assemblies. One in the US, one in Japan. They noticed the units from the US plant seemed to be the ones with the most failures. After much research they found the problem. When an employees in Japan was given a print and a part was supposed to be within a range of say .002-.005 he would strive to get as close to perfect as possible while the US worker would be happy as long as it was within spec. Draw your own conclusions. Mike On Jan 26, 2014 6:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: And I from Bronx Science, my older brother from Stuyvesant. Any other ex New Yorkers? On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: Good article! It was marred only by failing to mention the other selective entry NYC high school: Brooklyn Tech. HS. It's about the CULTURE and FAMILY! Greg Disclaimer: I'm a graduate of Brooklyn Tech. My brother was also a Tech. graduate, and daughter currently teaches math there. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of arche...@embarqmail.com Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 2:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] WHAT DRIVES SUCCESS IN AMERICA? What Drives Success? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2010 Sprinter 3500 rear axle assembly needed.
Any suggestions? Gary? What info do you need for new? What is available for parts to rebuild? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2010 Sprinter 3500 rear axle assembly needed.
That is not what I want to hear.dealer says $7000! Someone has to know where there is a wreck I can get the whole rear from I hope. Mike On Jan 23, 2014 10:59 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it doesn't seem anyone i deal with would be in a position to handle this On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Any suggestions? Gary? What info do you need for new? What is available for parts to rebuild? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2010 Sprinter 3500 rear axle assembly needed.
Thanks guys. I will check them out. Mike On Jan 23, 2014 11:05 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: did you try potomac german? On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: That is not what I want to hear.dealer says $7000! Someone has to know where there is a wreck I can get the whole rear from I hope. Mike On Jan 23, 2014 10:59 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it doesn't seem anyone i deal with would be in a position to handle this On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Any suggestions? Gary? What info do you need for new? What is available for parts to rebuild? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2010 Sprinter 3500 rear axle assembly needed.
Thanks again! I will be calling them as soon as I vet the VIN info so I know I get the right one. Mike On Jan 23, 2014 2:29 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: On 1/23/2014 11:05 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: did you try potomac german? http://www.pgauto.com/ www.lkqcorp.com On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: That is not what I want to hear.dealer says $7000! Someone has to know where there is a wreck I can get the whole rear from I hope. Mike On Jan 23, 2014 10:59 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: it doesn't seem anyone i deal with would be in a position to handle this On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Any suggestions? Gary? What info do you need for new? What is available for parts to rebuild? Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2010 Sprinter 3500 rear axle assembly needed.
Do you know if the Dodge axle assy is the same as the Mercedes? Mike On Jan 23, 2014 7:53 PM, Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: Sure did! I used Dodge Sprinter 3500 and All the US. On 1/23/2014 17:45, Mitch Haley wrote: Russ Williams wrote: Doing a search on http://car-part.com found one for a 2010 in Grand Prairie Tx. and a bunch other years around the US. You searching for a 3500? I got a blank for 2010. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3681/7027 - Release Date: 01/23/14 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who wants raspberry pi?
That is pretty cool device. Learned something new today. Thanks, Mike On Jan 12, 2014 7:03 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:42:16 -0500 (EST) Mitchell Haley, EA m...@voyager.net wrote: $30 at microcenter: http://www.microcenter.com/product/414588/Raspberry_Pi_Model_B From that page, Save $10.00 / Originally $39.99 Find online. Buy in store. No stores near us. Must be sold out online. This morning you could get one shipped for $6 extra. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel timing
Agreeed Craig, I have heard the lines are too thick as well. Mike On Jan 2, 2014 10:35 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 09:04:45 -0500 Trampas Stern tst...@nc.rr.com wrote: has anyone tried connecting a piezo sensor to the #1 injector line on a diesel as sensor for a timing light? That is the sensor picks up the vibration in the #1 injector line to know when injector opens. I did a quick test and it looks to be feasible, thus figured I can not be the first person to have the idea. I have heard of it before so you are not the first person to think of it. I do recall the comment that Benz injection lines have less vibration (impulse) than other types of vehicles, maybe because of thicker injection lines. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart Dog Drives Smart Car
That is a riot! Mike On Jan 2, 2014 10:45 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Interesting reactions ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fybch3DX8c8 Also Runaway Trailer Crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-9U60WptFc Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Seating Beads on New Tires
Easy on the ether in a little tire like that. Just a quick shot works better than a big one. Get the bottom seated, spray, step back and light a piece of paper to toss at the gap on top. No need to hurry a lot, the starting fluid needs time to mix with the air and won't come out the bottom. Works almost every time. Mike On Dec 27, 2013 3:45 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Scott wrote: I'm going nuts trying to seat the beads on a new set of tires on my lawn tractor. I tried a cargo strap around the tread but that doesn't even get it close. Any thoughts? Thanks. Warm the tire as much as you can - but don't let _her_ find your tires in the oven. Soap up the bead and seat good. Press fit the bead to one side. Use a _big_ cargo strap, or better a chain to apply squeeze forces. With the chain, use a pipe to twist the chain tight. It will take a lot of force to squeeze the tire bead out to the other seat. The tire mounting rigs use a blast of air to pop the tire open. You could make yourself one with an air tank and a 1-2 inch (2.5 - 5 cm) pipe and valve. Finally, there's the extreme method. Spray a couple second burst of starter fluid in the tire (best to get it inside the tire, not just on the rim. Also get it all around, not just in one spot), spray a fuse trail, light it, and at the moment the tire goes fooomph! apply as high a volume of air as you can through the valves stem. Best to have the core out to get higher flow. I'm not _advising_ this method, but I have used it successfully. --Philip, who doesn't have any tire pieces permanently embedded - yet ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: What Toni won on the radio.....
Toni is always winning something on the radio. This time she has won a membership to a local MMA Fitness club! She is s excited. Good thing I keep her happy.lol My girl Rocks! Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: What Toni won on the radio.....
Nah. Now she might be gettin ready for tangling with our 13 yr old daughter who has been a wrestler for 7 years..lol Mike On Dec 27, 2013 5:31 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Toni is always winning something on the radio. This time she has won a membership to a local MMA Fitness club! She is s excited. Good thing I keep her happy.lol My girl Rocks! Mike Are you sure she doesn't just want to learn how to kick you butt? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Psychopath test
45% here. It says: Though your conscience is in the right place you also have a pragmatic streak and generally aren’t afraid to do your own dirty work! You’re no shrinking violet - but no daredevil either. You generally have little trouble seeing things from another person’s perspective but, at the same time, are no pushover. ‘Everything in moderation – including moderation’ might sum up your approach to life. Interesting. What did yours say Mao? Mike On Dec 27, 2013 10:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Another test for fun. How psycho are we: psychopath.channel4.com/quizzes.html It comes from UK, so it is already psycho. Shall we put the hex on okiebenz again this week by mentioning automobile electrical gremlins? - nah... mao - 18% ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Color printers
Sounds interesting. Never heard of one. How does it do for printing photos? Mike On Dec 26, 2013 1:43 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: So, I loathe and despise inkjets, for practical reasons, but we kinda needed a color printer. After much fooling around I picked up a used Xerox 8560 spray-on crayon printer. It's fast, and prints are very punchy. (It's huge!) $240. Any thoughts on this matter? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff
Replacing the rear control arms for play? What? That sounds ridiculous. Why wouldn't you replace just loose bushings? Replace camber adjusting bolts? Unless the car is so rusty they won't come out without damage there is no need to replace them. They don't wear out. I don't know your mechanic but it sounds like he saw you coming and is taking advantage of your lack of expertise on the subject. Anyone else catch that? Mike On Dec 21, 2013 6:56 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: OK, I am getting new Bilstein shocks in front, Sachs-Boge self leveling shocks and Febi accumulators in the rear. The car is still perfectly level even when loaded. 1. While the car is up, the shop says the castor adjustors have wear (small). Does it make sense to do this now? From what I have seen, it relates to the front end alignment. I am getting confused looking at parts. Is this what I need x 2? * 1163300018 * http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/1163300018.jpg Genuine Mercedes http://www.autohausaz.com/html/brandnames.html Alignment Caster/Camber Kit; Front Lower Inner; Eccentric Bolt Kit 2 kits per car. 2. Deciding whether to have the ball joints done at the same time though there is no inspection reports of wear noted and the car does not present any tracking issues. Is it possible to check anything when it is not on the lift? Two boots and two boot kits, correct? Just wanting to get everything tight again. The black sedan is all done and it made a world of difference, but...just in time for two huge tree branches to smash the top in the middle. Sig! 3. Where is the hydraulic suspension filter located for the self leveling suspension in the rear? * 0021845501 * http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/0021845501.jpg Genuine Mercedes http://www.autohausaz.com/html/brandnames.html Hydraulic Suspension Oil Filter For models with self-leveling rear suspension. 4. I have to wait on the Rear Control Arms. Told they have some play. Not sure how to feel this when driving. Thanks R Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Date: Sat, December 21, 2013 12:38 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com also, that's just hte upper hose. the lower hose might just be available only in tructec or genuine mercedes, so you might have to get the lower one in genuine or just live with the tructec. seems i too have a special agreement with monark to sell you those hoses, but i'd probably get a genuine one if i were you if the tructec actually turns out chinese On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: Morning All, I am ready to replace the oil cooler hoses on the wagon. I was price shopping, and came across these. https://mercedessource.com/store/116-123-617-turbo-diesel-upper-oil-cooler-hose-instructions Has anyone had experience with these? The German company? Looking for recommendations. Thanks R 85 300TD Wagon 230,000 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon castor Adjustors and other suspension stuff
If Martha wouldn't replace it then it doesn't need done.lol I didn't catch the part about still sitting level. Sure does seem like a lot of work for it's old, it might go bad, new is better. The whole car is a collection of used parts, why pick out ones that aren't broken to upgrade to new? It'll be ok, make it drive nice and be safe and call it good. If it ain't broke, don't fix it is the motto around here. Mike On Dec 22, 2013 9:51 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I would agree, as even my level of nit-pickyness wouldn't mandate replacing adjusting bolts unless they were coming out for another job. I see a lot of the work specified here as being near overkill. How leaky are the rear struts? Is the rear suspension clunking? If the self-leveling system is working properly and not bottoming out under load or driving conditions, there is nothing that would indicate replacement of the major components. I would add that a number of people have successfully rebuilt leaky rear struts as well. I wonder about the amount of work going into a car of that age. You have to take a step back and ask yourself if it's really necessary. I'm thinking someone's mechanic is looking to buy a new boat Dan On Dec 22, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Replacing the rear control arms for play? What? That sounds ridiculous. Why wouldn't you replace just loose bushings? Replace camber adjusting bolts? Unless the car is so rusty they won't come out without damage there is no need to replace them. They don't wear out. I don't know your mechanic but it sounds like he saw you coming and is taking advantage of your lack of expertise on the subject. Anyone else catch that? Mike On Dec 21, 2013 6:56 PM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: OK, I am getting new Bilstein shocks in front, Sachs-Boge self leveling shocks and Febi accumulators in the rear. The car is still perfectly level even when loaded. 1. While the car is up, the shop says the castor adjustors have wear (small). Does it make sense to do this now? From what I have seen, it relates to the front end alignment. I am getting confused looking at parts. Is this what I need x 2? * 1163300018 * http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/1163300018.jpg Genuine Mercedes http://www.autohausaz.com/html/brandnames.html Alignment Caster/Camber Kit; Front Lower Inner; Eccentric Bolt Kit 2 kits per car. 2. Deciding whether to have the ball joints done at the same time though there is no inspection reports of wear noted and the car does not present any tracking issues. Is it possible to check anything when it is not on the lift? Two boots and two boot kits, correct? Just wanting to get everything tight again. The black sedan is all done and it made a world of difference, but...just in time for two huge tree branches to smash the top in the middle. Sig! 3. Where is the hydraulic suspension filter located for the self leveling suspension in the rear? * 0021845501 * http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/0021845501.jpg Genuine Mercedes http://www.autohausaz.com/html/brandnames.html Hydraulic Suspension Oil Filter For models with self-leveling rear suspension. 4. I have to wait on the Rear Control Arms. Told they have some play. Not sure how to feel this when driving. Thanks R Original Message Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 '85 TD Wagon oil cooler lines From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Date: Sat, December 21, 2013 12:38 pm To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com also, that's just hte upper hose. the lower hose might just be available only in tructec or genuine mercedes, so you might have to get the lower one in genuine or just live with the tructec. seems i too have a special agreement with monark to sell you those hoses, but i'd probably get a genuine one if i were you if the tructec actually turns out chinese On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM, r...@rhonald.me wrote: Morning All, I am ready to replace the oil cooler hoses on the wagon. I was price shopping, and came across these. https://mercedessource.com/store/116-123-617-turbo-diesel-upper-oil-cooler-hose-instructions Has anyone had experience with these? The German company? Looking for recommendations. Thanks R 85 300TD Wagon 230,000 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive
Re: [MBZ] Kalebs 123
And looks like bulletproof glass... Mike On Dec 21, 2013 5:52 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: A full auto armrest? Option code, please! Dan On Dec 21, 2013, at 5:50 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: http://www.nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/MB-Exotenforum/img/uploaded/image84410.jpg Hendrik who did not have this option in his 123 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah
Notice the semi stays in line while the straight job pulls away. Be near impossible the other way around. Mike On Dec 19, 2013 7:05 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:21:17 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Remember the reversing Volvo truck split? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10 And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards, particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer? Chuck Norris version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-D1KVIuvjA Definitely Photoshopped. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Van Damme and Volvo uje0ajah
Yeah, that was the whole point of the ad. Supposed to make backing easier. I say a good driver should be able to back up in a stright line on a perfectly level surface without computer help. I can back a 40 foot van in a straight line for a looong ways with an old worn out Freightshaker...lolol Mike On Dec 19, 2013 10:59 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Mitch wrote: Remember the reversing Volvo truck split? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7FIvfx5J10 Craig wrote: And how are they able to keep the trucks going straight backwards, particularly the truck on the right, the semi with a trailer? Dieselhead wrote: Nuttin easier. Run it backwards. Photoshop Maybe. But I'm pretty certain those trucks were being driven in reverse. Note where the drivers are looking. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tire blowouts [hey Kaleb, you and your spamblocker can go emamuqur yourselves]
Blizzaks were the only tire that would keep my 62 Buick Special wagon on the road in the snow... Nokia Hakkepellitta(sp?) are almost as good but not quite as soft. Mike On Dec 20, 2013 12:02 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 16, 2013 2:54 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: blizzaks are great. Yep, nothing but Blizzaks for me when it comes to serious winter tires. I've experimented with other brands in the studless snow/ice category, but no other maker seems to be able to copy the magic Blizzak formula. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If people actually pay this price I have a gold mine out back
The wrinkled rear 1/4 from severe rust, a rear end collision, or, more than likely, from pushing it around with a loader is a huge selling point for me. Make my straight cd in the back yard worth a mint. $500 on it and it's still here. Mike On Dec 9, 2013 9:34 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: That'll buff out. Really. Dan On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://loz.craigslist.org/cto/4235855736.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery
Order online through Advance auto, use big online discount coupon found with google, pay with debit card, pick up in store. Will be under a $100. Mike On Dec 10, 2013 11:11 AM, John Ingram joh...@cloud9.net wrote: Hello Everyone. I am sorry if this has been covered recently but I need a replacement battery for my 83 240D. The Interstate battery that is in it has lasted a long time and I would like to simply replace it. However, I find that the battery listed on the Interstate website is only 720CCA, the old one was 850CCA. The old tired diesel needs every bit of help getting started. Does anyone sell a battery that will fit correctly in the car with at least 850CCA? If this topic has been covered recently please tell me when and I will look it up. John I. 83 240D 309K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery
They have other ones.. Mike On Dec 10, 2013 12:44 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Michael Canfield wrote: Order online through Advance auto, use big online discount coupon found with google, pay with debit card, pick up in store. Will be under a $100. Lately the $50 off on $100 order coupons have been limited to the first 1000 buyers and they keep expiring an hour or two before I find out about them. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D Battery
Optima batteries are awesome. Expensive but none more durable in my experience. Mike On Dec 10, 2013 4:33 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Ask FLAPS to get you a Group 49 battery with the at least 850CCA. Optima are really good clay On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:11 AM, John Ingram wrote: Hello Everyone. I am sorry if this has been covered recently but I need a replacement battery for my 83 240D. The Interstate battery that is in it has lasted a long time and I would like to simply replace it. However, I find that the battery listed on the Interstate website is only 720CCA, the old one was 850CCA. The old tired diesel needs every bit of help getting started. Does anyone sell a battery that will fit correctly in the car with at least 850CCA? If this topic has been covered recently please tell me when and I will look it up. John I. 83 240D 309K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Grapes
Rust and grapes are like weeds here in upstate NY. Wild grapes grow so well they take over trees. Mike On Nov 29, 2013 10:24 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Peter wrote: Ha ha, I dug up mature grape vines and replanted them because my new neighbor doesn't want them and I do. Craig wrote: I have tried grapes here, but have had no success. Frustrating. Yeah. Sounds like your attempts with tomatoes too. But living in the desert of NM where there isn't soil or water makes growing _anything_ tough. Just look at what nature grows... -- Philip, living where grapes grow - but so does rust on the cars. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?
Stop driving that car! Do not drain the oil! Save the jugs and do not refill them at any cost! You need them for evidence. Get a lawyer and sue the hell out of them for restocking returned, used motor oil. Rotella has a foil seal as well and NO OIL is BLACK and CHUNKY out of the jug! Period! They owe you a new engine and damages for unknown contamination and damage. Mike On Nov 23, 2013 8:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I changed the oil today in the 1983 300TD, 334,000 miles. I opened the jug of Rotella and to my shock it was jet BLACK and syrupy in consistency. As I poured, there appeared to be heterogeneous chunks in the mix. WTF? I called Sears and they guy said this was normal for a heavy duty diesel oil. Is this true, or did I trade my old oil for used oil? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tar (Curt's tractor fronts)
The Amish folks have come up with all varieties of steel wheels. Rubber isolated with steel traction area, solid steel with rubber traction area, and the list goes on. They are great until you get on slippery sidehills or frozen ground, then they get about as much traction as a toboggan. I think the foam filled tires are a better solution for a work tractor that gets used for many purposes all year long. Mike On Nov 23, 2013 6:45 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Neat idea but: A. I dont hsve any B. Steels can't go down the paved road The foam should fix us right up, Dad has foam filled tires on everything at the landfill and they work our good. Enough flex and long lived. Curt Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 20:04:30 -0700 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tar (Curt's tractor fronts) Message-ID: 20131122200430.6c4b924230a84aa3a583c...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:01:46 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Since we'll never be farming for real (I don't have plans to anyway) the fields get mowed every couple years until we get the trees growing good so the punji sticks will continue to plauge us. I'd put several cans of slime in each tire to no real effect... So how about the steel wheels tractors used to have? Craig Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I can't think of a crappier way to start the day….
Is there more to this? Mike On Nov 23, 2013 12:13 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: ..than walking in to work and turning around to see your 300SEL in flames. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill
Grant I love the way you put things into perspective.. Mike On Nov 21, 2013 12:12 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: *Putting things in perspective…* *WWII and the Website* *March 21st 2010 to October 1 2013 is 3 years, 6 months, 10 days.* *December 7, 1941 to May 8, 1945 is 3 years, 5 months, 1 day.* *What this means is that in the time we were attacked at Pearl Harbor to the day Germany surrendered is not enough time for this federal government to build a working webpage.* *Mobilization of millions, building tens of thousands of tanks, planes, jeeps, subs, cruisers, destroyers, torpedoes, millions upon millions of guns, bombs, ammo, etc. Turning the tide in North Africa, invading Italy, D-Day, Battle of the Bulge, Race to Berlin - all while we were also fighting the Japanese in the Pacific!!* *And they can't build a webpage. think about that !!.. No, really think about that. Do we have an incompetent government employing idiots.or what?* *Seems Donald Trumps tagline phrase suits best: You're Fired* On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Independent of whatever political views one might have on the whole mess, this article is interesting if only for the graphic from the McKinsey report. THis is consistent with my (dated) understanding of software (or any kind really) projects -- PADDIS -- plan analyse design develop implement support, with some loops in there. Looks like they started somewhere in the middle and never got to the end, understandably. After nearly $700M on a sole-source contract with politically-tied principals, 60-70% complete after 3 years. --R On 11/20/13 8:18 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Alex wrote: Ha! I'm not touching that one. Tim - thanks for the link to ars article. It seems that politically the complexity of the new systems should have been highlighted as failure happened early in October instead of now. Massive infrastructure, dependencies, etc are understandable and could have been a reasonable explanation to the media about the seeming system failure. Biz extension could have been granted without the buzz the failure produced, I would guess. It is a complex system linking market insco with gov't. Does refuse2enroll still play in these environs? I am odd man out here, but with zero resources and another year away from funding by gov't dictates I will be refusing. Take the high road and realize death ain't the bad thing healthcare makes it out to be. We all gotta get there but being in good health makes that unrealistic for me anytime soon... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill
Hey Grant, Do you mind if my wife shares your comparison on her facebook page? Mike On Nov 21, 2013 12:12 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: *Putting things in perspective…* *WWII and the Website* *March 21st 2010 to October 1 2013 is 3 years, 6 months, 10 days.* *December 7, 1941 to May 8, 1945 is 3 years, 5 months, 1 day.* *What this means is that in the time we were attacked at Pearl Harbor to the day Germany surrendered is not enough time for this federal government to build a working webpage.* *Mobilization of millions, building tens of thousands of tanks, planes, jeeps, subs, cruisers, destroyers, torpedoes, millions upon millions of guns, bombs, ammo, etc. Turning the tide in North Africa, invading Italy, D-Day, Battle of the Bulge, Race to Berlin - all while we were also fighting the Japanese in the Pacific!!* *And they can't build a webpage. think about that !!.. No, really think about that. Do we have an incompetent government employing idiots.or what?* *Seems Donald Trumps tagline phrase suits best: You're Fired* On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Independent of whatever political views one might have on the whole mess, this article is interesting if only for the graphic from the McKinsey report. THis is consistent with my (dated) understanding of software (or any kind really) projects -- PADDIS -- plan analyse design develop implement support, with some loops in there. Looks like they started somewhere in the middle and never got to the end, understandably. After nearly $700M on a sole-source contract with politically-tied principals, 60-70% complete after 3 years. --R On 11/20/13 8:18 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Alex wrote: Ha! I'm not touching that one. Tim - thanks for the link to ars article. It seems that politically the complexity of the new systems should have been highlighted as failure happened early in October instead of now. Massive infrastructure, dependencies, etc are understandable and could have been a reasonable explanation to the media about the seeming system failure. Biz extension could have been granted without the buzz the failure produced, I would guess. It is a complex system linking market insco with gov't. Does refuse2enroll still play in these environs? I am odd man out here, but with zero resources and another year away from funding by gov't dictates I will be refusing. Take the high road and realize death ain't the bad thing healthcare makes it out to be. We all gotta get there but being in good health makes that unrealistic for me anytime soon... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joint Tool
That is pretty slick. Looks like a good reason to go buy a HF press. Mike On Nov 21, 2013 4:01 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I carried the bare knuckle, new BJ, and tool to a local shop today. This shop has a 20 ton press. The new ball joint pressed into the knuckle slicker than snot. It was almost too easy. We simply aligned the tool with the press frame by eyeball and pumped the bottle jack until it was in. I previously scrubbed the knuckle, filed out the burrs from the vice (removing the old BJ) and lightly greased the BJ hole and spindle. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:49 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: [MBZ] 126 Lower Ball Joint Tool The $100 eBay ball joint tool arrived today. It looks nicely made and finished. The drift mates nicely with the contour on the underside of the ball joint, although I previously pounded out the old joint using a big socket. The tool fits snugly over the new ball joint boot without damaging the boot (also holding the new BJ securely in the tool). The cutouts seem to provide good clearance between the knuckle and the tool when the new BJ is square with the knuckle. I plan to go to a local shade-tree mechanic tomorrow and press in the first joint; I'll report back afterward. Here's a link to the directions that came with the tool. It works with 123 and 126 BJs and includes a spacer for 220s. http://pt709.synology.me/126_ball_joint_tool.pdf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned_misfits] My, but I'm one boring driver.
In case of the 16th ammendment. Mike On Nov 20, 2013 10:13 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, 4th Amendment of Constitution is not taught in schools now.. or read in Congress, or by police agencies.. To bad.. welcome to the total nanny state, where you will be given what the state determines you need or want, and controls what you do.. Oh... wait... there is that pesky 2nd Amendment that keeps the slaves armed.. how inconvenient... hmmm ... I wonder why the founding fathers included that??? On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: My Nuvi certainly does have A track file and even displays the track history if that display is enabled. You can manually delete the track history too but I don't know if the data is actually deleted before it is overwritten. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 4:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned_misfits] My, but I'm one boring driver. I don't think mist of the automotive GPS' leave breadcrumbs, but my handheld Garmin does. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill
The ghost flames make the whole deal. It would be way too much fun to show up at a fancy car show with that and a can of turtle wax. Mike On Nov 18, 2013 10:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You can't unsee that Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I don't have the link, but search eBay for this auction number: 281208114204 Here's the link to the mobile site: http://m.ebay.com/itm/281208114204?kw=281208114204 Wow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill
Maybe he should see what they offer for the girlfriend... Mike On Nov 18, 2013 10:15 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: The ghost flames make the whole deal. It would be way too much fun to show up at a fancy car show with that and a can of turtle wax. Mike On Nov 18, 2013 10:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You can't unsee that Sent from my iPhone On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I don't have the link, but search eBay for this auction number: 281208114204 Here's the link to the mobile site: http://m.ebay.com/itm/281208114204?kw=281208114204 Wow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill
Geez Rich, I have a diesel f350 and a 78 cd...bad body on the Ford, bad engine and trans in the coupe...I'll take $5k for the parts and the idea..lolol Mike On Nov 18, 2013 10:16 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Was offered $20k back in 2002 in California but didn't have my girlfriend at the time. You know though, if you have some POS old Merc sitting in a field, and a rusted out old truck, and a torch and a welder... --R On 11/18/13 9:50 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I don't have the link, but search eBay for this auction number: 281208114204 Here's the link to the mobile site: http://m.ebay.com/itm/281208114204?kw=281208114204 Wow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill
Heck no. I am keepin' my girlfriend..been together over 12 years and she still rocks! Mike On Nov 18, 2013 10:25 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I'll offer you $20k for the vehicles AND your girlfriend, or maybe you would pay me $20k to take the whole package? hmmm, either way it could be a bad deal for me... --R On 11/18/13 10:19 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Geez Rich, I have a diesel f350 and a 78 cd...bad body on the Ford, bad engine and trans in the coupe...I'll take $5k for the parts and the idea..lolol Mike On Nov 18, 2013 10:16 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Was offered $20k back in 2002 in California but didn't have my girlfriend at the time. You know though, if you have some POS old Merc sitting in a field, and a rusted out old truck, and a torch and a welder... --R On 11/18/13 9:50 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I don't have the link, but search eBay for this auction number: 281208114204 Here's the link to the mobile site: http://m.ebay.com/itm/281208114204?kw=281208114204 Wow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill
Of my girl? Now Andrew.Hahahahahha! Mike On Nov 18, 2013 11:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Pictures? On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Heck no. I am keepin' my girlfriend..been together over 12 years and she still rocks! Mike On Nov 18, 2013 10:25 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I'll offer you $20k for the vehicles AND your girlfriend, or maybe you would pay me $20k to take the whole package? hmmm, either way it could be a bad deal for me... --R On 11/18/13 10:19 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Geez Rich, I have a diesel f350 and a 78 cd...bad body on the Ford, bad engine and trans in the coupe...I'll take $5k for the parts and the idea..lolol Mike On Nov 18, 2013 10:16 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Was offered $20k back in 2002 in California but didn't have my girlfriend at the time. You know though, if you have some POS old Merc sitting in a field, and a rusted out old truck, and a torch and a welder... --R On 11/18/13 9:50 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I don't have the link, but search eBay for this auction number: 281208114204 Here's the link to the mobile site: http://m.ebay.com/itm/281208114204?kw=281208114204 Wow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I am about to be ill
Cuz it's worth more than scrap price now. says the builder. Mike On Nov 18, 2013 12:38 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 09:50:39 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I don't have the link, but search eBay for this auction number: 281208114204 Here's the link to the mobile site: http://m.ebay.com/itm/281208114204?kw=281208114204 Actually, clicking on the link works on a desktop, too. One question: Why? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 Crew Cab Ford F350 Turbo Diesel Auto w/ shiny extras $3500
Powerstroke IS an International engine as well. Could be either in 94 but looks like a Powerstroke badge on the side. Mike On Nov 17, 2013 12:05 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Kevin wrote: If it's an 1994 turbo diesel with an automatic transmission, it's most likely the IDI 7.3L turbo diesel. The power strokes in late 94 or all equipped with five speed manny trannies. Ooh. It did say International engine, so, yea, probably a turbo IDI. _Good_ engine. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I Hate When That Happens
That's repairable...I have hit deer and had cars look worse than that. A come-a-long, a solid anchor point, a big hammer and a few new exterior parts. Bet it still drives straightGotta love it! Mike On Nov 16, 2013 9:49 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Hope nobody was hurt. 'Looks much like my '80 240D did after uninsured driver on a ragged pickup pulled across in front of SWMBO in '95. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:21 PM Subject: [MBZ] I Hate When That Happens Kid wrecked his car today. Someone cut him off, bad. Guy claimed he didn't see him. Oops. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jd0db0jhm9ie382/fleSjcEDy0 Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 Crew Cab Ford F350 Turbo Diesel Auto w/ shiny extras $3500
Typical Ford Twin I Beam suspension. They all eat tires. Mike On Nov 16, 2013 5:43 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: Those front tyres don't exactly fill me with confidence. On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Looks like this might be a decent deal http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/4173601893.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1994 Crew Cab Ford F350 Turbo Diesel Auto w/ shiny extras $3500
Looks like it's a Powerstroke. They are bulletproof for the most part. Not as efficient as a Cummins but if ya like a V8 that can turn 3k rpm's at 20 pounds of boost while merging into traffic at 65mph loaded a Powerstroke sure will make ya grin. Mine is a 97 with 215k on it. Original automatic transmission still going strong. Mike On Nov 16, 2013 7:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: How good are the engines and transmissions in those? A long bed crew cab 1 ton that is not a dually appeals to me. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 16, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Typical Ford Twin I Beam suspension. They all eat tires. Mike On Nov 16, 2013 5:43 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com wrote: Those front tyres don't exactly fill me with confidence. On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Looks like this might be a decent deal http://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/4173601893.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '78 240D Block Heater
I would use good penetrating oil, tap it lightly a lot, spray more, warm it up if you can get it running first, repeat, rinse and condition. Oh, wait.lol Mike On Nov 15, 2013 10:05 AM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote: You will need all the room you can muster. Don't remember for sure about the starter, but the intake manifold is not a big deal to pull and it'll help a bunch. The thing looks like it's just screwed in there, but in truth there are three million molecules of bust ass in there devoted to keeping you from removing it.. make sure the tool fits so you don't round off the hex. A crescent wrench won't do it. On Friday, November 15, 2013 8:22 AM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Ya'll,I replaced my electric cord with a new one and the heater still is not working. I assume a new one is called for How much trouble to RR the heater? It's looks like a simple unscrew to remove - reverse to install. Does the starter need to be removed? It's hard to see under the intake manifold -- does the manifold need to come off? Thanks! LarryT 78 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?
Craig, Wow. That is terrifying! We have no rights any more. Mike On Nov 4, 2013 3:38 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:51:55 -0500 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I found this on Craigslist and got doing some reading. The post has been flagged but I copied it from my Craigsnotifica app. What they appear to be doing seems almost supported by past practice.. What do you folks think of this and the laws supporting it? Mike Certainly there is precedent of police departments seizing property that was used in the committing of a crime, with all the unscrupulous extensions, but having individual officers do that and say, Felons and Undocumented persons welcome! seems somewhat beyond the pale. In addition, See http://www.ij.org/inequitablejustice See also http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Articles/USSCDeclaresWarOnPeople.htm which says a lot that is rather chilling. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?
Nothing about it on Snopes. Mike On Nov 8, 2013 12:05 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Someone needs to check this out at Snopes.com. Sounds seriously bogus to me. On Nov 8, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Craig, Wow. That is terrifying! We have no rights any more. Mike On Nov 4, 2013 3:38 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:51:55 -0500 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I found this on Craigslist and got doing some reading. The post has been flagged but I copied it from my Craigsnotifica app. What they appear to be doing seems almost supported by past practice.. What do you folks think of this and the laws supporting it? Mike Certainly there is precedent of police departments seizing property that was used in the committing of a crime, with all the unscrupulous extensions, but having individual officers do that and say, Felons and Undocumented persons welcome! seems somewhat beyond the pale. In addition, See http://www.ij.org/inequitablejustice See also http://famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Articles/USSCDeclaresWarOnPeople.htm which says a lot that is rather chilling. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cord for Block Heater
Heck, no sense in me looking at a used one for that price. I was thinkin' $15 shipped but might better have new for the 5 bucks. Mike Mike On Nov 7, 2013 1:30 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i've already offered the spectacular 20 dollars shipped deal as i figure it has to be less than 13 oz and can just be thrown into first class mail ,. and if not, well, whoops, priority mail isn't going to cost me more than maybe $7 for this On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Its $16 from Dr. Fatty, why bother with used? -Curt Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:32:14 -0500 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cord for Block Heater Message-ID: 527aed9e.70...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thanks Mike! Appreciate that. Let me know the cost I can Paypal you if that's ok? I was going to try and splice the wire ends but after close inspection it's all falling apart! Thanks again, Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cord for Block Heater
Oh, first class and priority travel on the same trucks and planes together.usually no difference other than cost. Mike On Nov 7, 2013 1:30 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i've already offered the spectacular 20 dollars shipped deal as i figure it has to be less than 13 oz and can just be thrown into first class mail ,. and if not, well, whoops, priority mail isn't going to cost me more than maybe $7 for this On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Its $16 from Dr. Fatty, why bother with used? -Curt Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:32:14 -0500 From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cord for Block Heater Message-ID: 527aed9e.70...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thanks Mike! Appreciate that. Let me know the cost I can Paypal you if that's ok? I was going to try and splice the wire ends but after close inspection it's all falling apart! Thanks again, Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cord for Block Heater
I probably have one or two. Can look tomorrow. Mike On Nov 6, 2013 7:09 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Anyone have a W123 Block Heater cable? Mine seems to be falling apart from the heat... I was thinking about getting some wiring and splicing it into the plugs at each end but thought the real deal shouldn't be too expensive... Right? Kaleb - Got a good used one?? Larry 78 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cord for Block Heater
Sure thing Larry. I will send ya a message in the morning. Paypal is good with me. Mike On Nov 6, 2013 8:32 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Mike! Appreciate that. Let me know the cost I can Paypal you if that's ok? I was going to try and splice the wire ends but after close inspection it's all falling apart! Thanks again, Larry On 11/6/2013 7:58 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: I probably have one or two. Can look tomorrow. Mike On Nov 6, 2013 7:09 PM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Anyone have a W123 Block Heater cable? Mine seems to be falling apart from the heat... I was thinking about getting some wiring and splicing it into the plugs at each end but thought the real deal shouldn't be too expensive... Right? Kaleb - Got a good used one?? Larry 78 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cord for Block Heater
I have a 79 CD and an 83 TD that should have them. Mike On Nov 6, 2013 9:15 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: LarryT wrote: Anyone have a W123 Block Heater cable? Mine seems to be falling apart from the heat... I was thinking about getting some wiring and splicing it into the plugs at each end but thought the real deal shouldn't be too expensive... Right? Is this for the '78?. The '85s I have use a different heater with a different cord. Just for reference. (and another reason NOT to have an '85) --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Found on Craigslist......what do you think?
I found this on Craigslist and got doing some reading. The post has been flagged but I copied it from my Craigsnotifica app. What they appear to be doing seems almost supported by past practice.. What do you folks think of this and the laws supporting it? Mike CL syracuse all for sale / wanted free stuff Reply rwgbg-4170534...@sale.craigslist.org [?] flag [?] : miscategorized prohibited spam best of Posted: 2013-11-04, 9:48AM EST House Clean-Out, FREE! (Geddes) Pursuant to the Doctrine of Unauthorized Deprivation, Officers Carlos Javier Rivera-Montanez and Cari Ruiz-Mcanallen have seized for their own use and enjoyment, the home of Maritza Cruz-Erazo. There are numerous items in house that we want out of here before Maritza Cruz-Erazo returns from her vacation, because we won't be needing them, such as baby items (crib, changing table), large projection TV, VHS player, laser-disc, wine chiller fridge, medical school textbooks, engineering reference books, and books titled like Corporate and Governmental Deviance, by Ermann. Felons and Undocumented persons welcome! Location: Geddes it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Posting ID: 4170534489 Posted: 2013-11-04, 9:48AM EST email to a friend Avoid scams, deal locally! Do NOT wire funds (Western Union, Moneygram). Beware cashier checks, money orders, shipping, non-local buyers/sellers. More info FORMAT: mobile standard © 2013 craigslist help terms privacy safety feedback about cl jobs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Roger
Well that sucks to hear. Thanks for posting that for us. Mike On Oct 31, 2013 4:23 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Here is the news: I’m very sorry to report that Roger passed away on September 16, 2013. He had been battling several health issues stemming from the return of prostate cancer from 10 years prior. He had not been corresponding via e-mail for about 8 months prior to his death. He fought a courageous battle and when the time came he made an equally courageous decision to end the fight on his own terms.A wonderful memorial service was held on September 29 here in Seattle with about 90 people attending. Most were long time PCA/PNWR members who contributed some great stories of Roger’s time in the Club. In honor of his 50-year service to PNWR, the Club is naming our annual Porsche Pusher Award for him. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anyone near Madison, OH? Scammer problem.
Sent a money order out for a chip for my truck. Been weeks and I paid for Priority Shipping. He has admitted in texts that he lied about shipping it once already. Is anyone near enough to Madison, OH to go knock on his door and get my chip? Or my $60 back? His name is Dewayne Cantrell and after doing some searches it seems he has been up to the same crap for a while now. Thanks, Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
