[MBZ] AD for 1985 300 TD Wagon
If anyone is interestedThis ad is in a paper that circulates in CT. I have not seen the car. dark blue with tan interior, 178,500 mi, pb, pdl, sunroof, air, pw, all power, auto, cruise, CD, workhorse has all the expected options, regular and snows, 8 wheels, and thousands of miles left in it, runs well, exc int, little rust on wheel wells, good bio-diesel option, needs some attention, Call for details, $2000 OBO. (203) 588-0672 (2X) . Stamford, CT From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Nov 13 03:09:52 2006 Received: from smtp-in-1.userservices.net ([207.109.251.9]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GjSCm-0001hU-3h for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:09:52 + Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-in-1.userservices.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF21859A886 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:08:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: virus free Received: from smtp-in-1.userservices.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-in-1.userservices.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Kt8085HnmG+A for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from s3.visp.net (email-inc-3.userservices.net [207.109.251.21]) by smtp-in-1.userservices.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7281B59A87C for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mccluskey.linux (208-3-82-155.cnsp.net [208.3.82.155]) by s3.visp.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 02F9A400C4C for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:08:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 20:08:33 -0700 From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.6 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] removing tank screen X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:09:52 - On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:27:08 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but we are talking about the screen in the bottom of the tank. Seems like I bought a socket to remove the sender, wonder if its the same size. And what does: the strainer (accessable from under the car) both measure 1.804 across the flats. mean, but the strainer (or screen) in the bottom of the tank? Craig
Re: [MBZ] cheap 124 wagon
If you click on the seller's name you will see this guy is always selling mint condition 1980's diesels with low mileage. Where do you suppose he gets them? Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300TD-DIESEL-1987-300TD-TURBO-DIESEL-WAGON-113K-ORIG-MILES-MINT-COND_W0QQitemZ120048984202QQihZ002QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap 124 wagon
not if the car is from the original owner. Not all states record mileage at inspection. so the mileage can be turned back. Also carfax doesn't always record accidents... I've seen many totaled cars at auctions and the insurance companies didn't process the titles to salvage. Carfax does not catch these. Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark maturo wrote: If you click on the seller's name you will see this guy is always selling mint condition 1980's diesels with low mileage. Where do you suppose he gets them? Dial-an-odometer? Of course, that's hard to do effectively in the carfax era. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
The parts are genuine and the price is good so I will go with you Rusty after I determine if I'm buying both pieces or not. The center muffler rotted at the weld points going in and out of the muffler and at the flange weld where it connects to the front pipe. The rear muffler rusted at all the weld points for the brackets but the muffler itself only has surface rust. I want to prop the muffler up to the front pipe flange and attach it with a $1.99 adapter to hear what the car sounds like without the center muffler. This will determine whether I purchase the rear muffler with or without the center muffler. Might not get to it until the weekend. Prices good until next week? Thanks Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The muffler shop replaced the rear muffler on my 380SE for $65. I'm sure it was not GENUINE Mercedes, but it seemed to hold up OK. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 12:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust My friend told me Adist had the Center and Rear mufflers for around 600. When I looked it up the exact price would be $655. I checked with Timevalve in CT mentioned in Peter Frederick's post.. they said 635.00 for the two mufflers. Can you get them for less? I didn't see anything on the website. Rusty wrote: Mark, that is a great price. Who gave you that quote? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust My exhaust is rotting on my 1991 350SD. Priced the center and rear muffler and comes to around $600. Does anyone know if the center muffler can be eliminated. Is it for noise or emissions? Thanks Mark Maturo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Exhaust
My exhaust is rotting on my 1991 350SD. Priced the center and rear muffler and comes to around $600. Does anyone know if the center muffler can be eliminated. Is it for noise or emissions? Thanks Mark Maturo
Re: [MBZ] Exhaust
My friend told me Adist had the Center and Rear mufflers for around 600. When I looked it up the exact price would be $655. I checked with Timevalve in CT mentioned in Peter Frederick's post.. they said 635.00 for the two mufflers. Can you get them for less? I didn't see anything on the website. Rusty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, that is a great price. Who gave you that quote? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark maturo Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:02 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Exhaust My exhaust is rotting on my 1991 350SD. Priced the center and rear muffler and comes to around $600. Does anyone know if the center muffler can be eliminated. Is it for noise or emissions? Thanks Mark Maturo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap wagon
what is shill bidding? Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that doesn't reek of shill bidding, I dunno what does. On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: It has one now. andrew strasfogel wrote: I can't believe it has no bids. The TL lenses alone are worth $200... On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-W123-1981-Mecedes-Benz-300TD-Wagon-300-turbo-diesel-sunroof_W0QQitemZ270033823857QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap wagon
Thanks. I didn't know the terminology. I've never bid on anything. I agree it does sound fishy but wouldn't the seller bid a lot higher to make people think it was worth more? And why isn't he showing the interior? Also ,the back looks like it is sitting kind of low. Michael Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets see - the no reserve, the bidder opened an account TODAY, bidder name is mercedes related but not exactly the product being sold (an attempt to make people think its a mercedes type person bidding), the bid was placed 15 minutes after the seller answered my question about rust (ie got home from worked, answered some questions, opened and account and placed a bid). Shill bidding is bidding that artificially inflates the price of the auction, ie the seller bidding on his own item under a different name. While abhored on eBay, the practice is accepted at dealer car auctions, where half the time, you're bidding against the coke machine in the corner. Mike On 9/27/06, mark maturo wrote: what is shill bidding? Michael Hall wrote: If that doesn't reek of shill bidding, I dunno what does. On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: It has one now. andrew strasfogel wrote: I can't believe it has no bids. The TL lenses alone are worth $200... On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-W123-1981-Mecedes-Benz-300TD-Wagon-300-turbo-diesel-sunroof_W0QQitemZ270033823857QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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[MBZ] oil in ALDA line
I noticed that there is some oil in the line clear line coming from the ALDA to the switch over valve on the inner fender well. On the fender well is also some residulal oil from the switch over valve but the valve is not dripping oil. My ALDA holds the proper PSI when pumped up. Is this normal on a 603.970? Thanks
Re: [MBZ] oil in ALDA line
Thanks, now I can scratch this one off my to do list. Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark maturo wrote: I noticed that there is some oil in the line clear line coming from the ALDA to the switch over valve on the inner fender well. On the fender well is also some residulal oil from the switch over valve but the valve is not dripping oil. My ALDA holds the proper PSI when pumped up. Is this normal on a 603.970? YES! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oil leak
I pulled the injector and replaced the heat shield. Still leaks. Doesn't look like it is coming from the pre chamber threads. What is used to pull the prechamber? Some of the injector threads are nicked could this cause a leak? Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The heat sheild/seal or the pre-chamber seal is leaking. This allows unburned fuel to slowly ooze out, looks just like 30 wt lubricating oil. If the inside of the thread around the injector is leaking, it's the injector seal, just have it replaced. If the thread for the pre-chamber is leaking, you must have the prechamber pulled and the seal replaced as well. I've seen this on several engines (MB and not), drives people nuts looking for an oil leak when the material is residual fuel instead. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A/C
How can I determine if my 1991 607 engine has already been converted from R12 to R34? Thanks
Re: [MBZ] oil leak
by the threaded ring you mean the prechamber, right? Do you know how it comes out? Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: The heat sheild/seal or the pre-chamber seal is leaking. This allows unburned fuel to slowly ooze out, looks just like 30 wt lubricating oil. If the inside of the thread around the injector is leaking, it's the injector seal, just have it replaced. If the thread for the pre-chamber is leaking, you must have the prechamber pulled and the seal replaced as well. I've seen this on several engines (MB and not), drives people nuts looking for an oil leak when the material is residual fuel instead. What Peter said - EVEN if it doesn't look like that. You need to remove the threaded ring - it WILL be cracked - REPLACE it. This is quite common with OM60x engines with inclined injection! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] oil leak
Thanks, it will be this weekends project. Mark Maturo Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Sent by: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes-bounces@ mercedes@okiebenz.com okiebenz.com cc Subject 07/26/2006 09:21 Re: [MBZ] oil leak PM Please respond to Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] z.com mark maturo wrote: by the threaded ring you mean the prechamber, right? Do you know how it comes out? NO! The threaded ring is what secures the prechamber to the head. It's the threaded ring that requires a special splined wrench (602 589 00 33 00) to remove that commonly cracks. I've NEVER heard of a bad prechamber in a modern engine (unless someone uses starter fluid to start the engine). http://mb.braingears.com/124_DISC1/Program/Engine/602_603/01-417.pdf Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
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Re: [MBZ] oil leak
my car is a 1991 350sd Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mark maturo wrote: Has anyone had any experiences with oil coming out of an injector. It definitely isn't the return line. I replaced them all and it is definitely oil not diesel. It has been a problem for a while but now it is getting worse. Looking at my #2 injector oil can be seen coming from where it screws into the head. You can see it slightly bubbling but not flowing out. When I drive, it at first sprayed a little oil, but now a lot is being sprayed out to where I see oil on the underside of the hood. Easier to answer if you say what year and model car you have! Most of what people refer to as OIL is actually #2 diesel that's been boiled a bit! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] oil leak
Has anyone had any experiences with oil coming out of an injector. It definitely isn't the return line. I replaced them all and it is definitely oil not diesel. It has been a problem for a while but now it is getting worse. Looking at my #2 injector oil can be seen coming from where it screws into the head. You can see it slightly bubbling but not flowing out. When I drive, it at first sprayed a little oil, but now a lot is being sprayed out to where I see oil on the underside of the hood. Thanks
Re: [MBZ] Overheating
Thanks for your responses. I haven't drained the oil yet to make sure if there is coolant in the oil. It is hard to tell from the dipstick except that it appears the level of oil is higher and when I rub it there is an anti freeze feeling to the oil. There can't be too much coolant in the oil because it never circulated through the thermostat into the block. I'm probably going to have to pull the head and hope it is a only the gasket. Another question I have though is, if there is coolant in my oil will this have any adverse effects on any other parts that the oil circulates through? Mark Maturo Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Sent by: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes-bounces@ mercedes@okiebenz.com okiebenz.com cc Subject 07/11/2006 06:54 Re: [MBZ] Overheating PM Please respond to Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] z.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I recently put an injection pump in my 603.970. Started right up and was running great. I was letting the engine idle in the drive way so the thermostat would open and then I was going to top off the coolant. I walked away for a few minutes and when I came back the car was overheating and the gauge was in the red. I checked the thermostat and it opens. However I replaced it with a new one any way. Car still overheats. I took the waterpump out and there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it. I do hear a slight rubbing sound when I turn it by hand. The car definitely isn't getting any coolant through the upper hose. I checked the oil and there seems to be some antifreeze in the coolant now. Prior to the overheating there were no signs of coolant in the oil. My questions are: Since there is trace antifreeze in the oil does this definitiely mean the head gasket cracked from the overheating? Could a waterpump that seems to be ok not circulate the coolant for anyother reason and is there any other possible reasons for the coolant not to circulate? Car was sitting since feb. before I replaced the injection pump. When I fill the coolant from the resoivoir should coolant fill up the radiator and come out the top hose? What you report is EXACTLY what will happen if there is a big air bubble in the cooling system. Rarely happens unless the head or head gasket has already failed. You CAN'T service the car by starting it and walking away! If you can stay there - DON'T start. The water pump MAY be defective (should scrape) and if there is anti-freeze/coolant in the oil (or vice versa), then either the head or head gasket has failed. Both failures are very rare in that engine (but can happen). Usually that engine simple starts consuming oil at an outrageous rate! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: [MBZ] Overheating
I drained the coolant to replace the hoses while I was waiting for the pump to be rebuilt. I set the timing on the pump with the $25 dollar tool that screws in the side of the pump and locks it into position to be put back in at 15 egrees ATDC. Car runs fine and quiet until it overheats which does not occur rapidly. I guess I should pull the head? Mark Maturo Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] .net To Sent by: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes-bounces@ mercedes@okiebenz.com okiebenz.com cc Subject 07/10/2006 06:12 Re: [MBZ] Overheating PM Please respond to Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] z.com Several possibilities here. One, if you drained the coolant you didn't get enough in there before you started it (although I don't know off the top of my head why you would have). If the temp gauge was in the red, very likely the head itself is cracked, not just the gasket. How did you set the timing for the IP? Grossly advanced timing will cause severe overheating. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
[MBZ] Overheating
Hi I recently put an injection pump in my 603.970. Started right up and was running great. I was letting the engine idle in the drive way so the thermostat would open and then I was going to top off the coolant. I walked away for a few minutes and when I came back the car was overheating and the gauge was in the red. I checked the thermostat and it opens. However I replaced it with a new one any way. Car still overheats. I took the waterpump out and there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it. I do hear a slight rubbing sound when I turn it by hand. The car definitely isn't getting any coolant through the upper hose. I checked the oil and there seems to be some antifreeze in the coolant now. Prior to the overheating there were no signs of coolant in the oil. My questions are: Since there is trace antifreeze in the oil does this definitiely mean the head gasket cracked from the overheating? Could a waterpump that seems to be ok not circulate the coolant for anyother reason and is there any other possible reasons for the coolant not to circulate? Car was sitting since feb. before I replaced the injection pump. When I fill the coolant from the resoivoir should coolant fill up the radiator and come out the top hose? Thanks Mark Maturo * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor
Ouch! Thanks Rusty, I will let you know if one of the other methods don't work. Mark Maturo Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com To Sent by: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes-bounces@ mercedes@okiebenz.com okiebenz.com cc Subject 06/28/2006 04:09 Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor PM Please respond to Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] z.com $300.00 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 4:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor 617 589 08 21 00 Mark Maturo Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com To Sent by: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes-bounces@ mercedes@okiebenz.com okiebenz.com cc Subject 06/28/2006 03:46 Re: [MBZ] RIV sensor PM Please respond to Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] z.com If you can get me a part # I can see how much. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 3:17 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] RIV sensor Does anyone know of a place that rents the RIV position sensor to set the start of delivery on the inj. pump? Rusty, how much is a new one? Is there another way to set the start of delivery without the sensor? Thanks Mark Maturo * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. * ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 Fan removal
Dave, thanks for the photos. I tried the allen wrench in the hole way and chipped one of the water pump ribs. I guess I will try the right way. Do you think a broken rib will affect anything? Also, is the hex head bolt on the fan left threaded? I was using a long pipe on the end of the ratchet for leverage and the bolt didn't budge? Mark Maturo Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Subject: Re: [MBZ] 603 Fan removal [EMAIL PROTECTED] triplin.net 03/30/2006 03:38 PM Please respond to Mercedes Discussion List Mark, Here's a photo of the real tools: http://www.w124performance.com/images/tools/OM60x_serp_belt_tools.jpg Cost of the tool via Rusty should be under $100. I recommend buying the tool if you intend to own OM60x engines for any length of time. Otherwise, some people say you can slip a small Allen wrench into a hole in the pulley, and brace it against a rib on the water pump. I've not done this myself but others claim it works OK... just don't break the water pump. With the stubby hex socket and spinner tool shown in the photo above, the fan can be pulled out without removing the radiator. :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:49:21 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] was I accidently taken off the list? Does anyone know a good way to hold the water pump pulley, on a 603 engine, to keep it from turning while removing the hex head fan bolt? Mercedes sells a tool but it is 140.00. Mark Maturo ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
[MBZ] 603 Fan removal
Does anyone know a good way to hold the water pump pulley, on a 603 engine, to keep it from turning while removing the hex head fan bolt? Mercedes sells a tool but it is 140.00. Mark Maturo * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
[MBZ] was I accidently taken off the list?
Mark Maturo V: 860-843-6574 F: 860-392-3359 - Forwarded by Mark Maturo/HLIFE on 03/30/2006 02:48 PM - Mark Maturo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/30/2006 12:01 cc: PM Subject: 603 Fan removal Does anyone know a good way to hold the water pump pulley, on a 603 engine, to keep it from turning while removing the hex head fan bolt? Mercedes sells a tool but it is 140.00. Mark Maturo * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
Re: [MBZ] ALDA seals/rebuilt ALDA
Hi Jim, What is your address so I can send a Money Order to you for the ALDA shaft seal. My car is a 91 350SD. Should I take a picture of the ALDA shaft seal to confirm it is the same? Thanks Mark Maturo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/2006 01:06 cc: AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ALDA seals/rebuilt ALDA In a message dated 3/13/2006 9:26:10 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you know where to get ALDA shaft seals? Dave M said you might have been the person who sold them in the past. Mark, Yes, I still have some ALDA shaft seals. Listers pay my cost, $6.00 each, cash, check, MO, and send me a stamped, self addressed envelope. You can just about install these little buggers with your thumb. the back side of a small socket works well to finish seating the seal. I have never had to replace the large O-ring, as Dave has mentioned, a light coating of silicone RTV or Hylomar will seal the old one just fine. I have one ALDA which has been pressure tested cleaned, and resealed which I will sell for $45 plus $3.85 priority mail. These carry the same part number from the earliest turbo diesels (78 in the US) through at least 87. I will remove the seal or leave it intact at the buyer's wish. A set of 3 shims is included. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 140 K miles * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
[MBZ] ALDA seals
Jim(JFreezn), Do you know where to get ALDA shaft seals? Dave M said you might have been the person who sold them in the past. Thanks Mark Maturo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: triplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jim F., were you in Tucson today?/weather 03/13/2006 11:14 AM Please respond to Mercedes Discussion List In a message dated 3/12/2006 1:03:59 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bro. in Tucson took this photo of an SD in a parking lot. Interestingly (to me, anyway) it was parked next to a 300D with one saab in between. Was that you, Jim? I should have told him to go check if it had a boost gauge in the steering wheel. Brian, Not me. I left the yellow car home and towed my dune buggy to the dunes for the weekend. The recent wind and rain left the sand so smooth and hard you could ride those dunes like a roller coaster! Meanwhile, Phoenix's record of 143 days without rain has ended dramatically with an inch and a half, with snow down as low as Scottsdale. It was a fairly mild storm here, but I see that the cold front moving into the midwest has spawned some early season tornados! I hope all who read this have escaped Mother Nature's wrath. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 140 K miles ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
[MBZ] ALDA Shaft seal and O-ring
Would anyone know where I can get a replacement shaft seal and O-ring for the ALDA? Thanks * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. *
