Re: [MBZ] '79 450SEL
Get some Techron or RedLine fuel injector cleaner if you want to use something. You need to verify that the fuel pump is running, it not it can be quite expensive on that car, I don't think they are as easy to restore to working condition as the W108 ones. No fuel means a stuck fuel distributor or a bad fuel pump. DO NOT dump Seafoam into an intake hose, the only problem you have is fuel supply related, and it could just be the syrup in the tank! Take 5 gal of fresh premium with you, take the fuel line off the tank and drain whatever is in there out, re-fit line, and dump in the fresh fuel along with the bottle of injector cleaner. Jumper the fuel pump relay and let the pump run for an hour or so --this will flush any sludge or gum out of the fuel distributor that is going to come out. Crack the injector lines loose on both ends and push down on the air flow meter flap to flush both the FD and the lines (tighten them up on the FD when clean fuel comes out). Tighten the injector lines when clean fuel comes out at the injector. THEN try to start it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '79 450SEL
While I am waiting to be able to buy Donald's 300SEL for my wife to drive I am going to look at a $750 1979 450SEL in the morning for my daughter to drive for a few months. If the guy is correct the car has 130k miles, interior is good [no rips, tears or cracks], body is good, and it ran fine when he bought it a couple of years ago and has just been sitting in a shop since. Says it will start and run fine but you have to keep gas going into it - higher rev than idle, at least. He thinks it is because of old fuel, and he has done nothing to it since he bought it. I bought a can of Seafoam, suggested by the guy at the FLAPS, who said I might want to try putting half into one of the intake hoses and half into the fuel tank. Not sure what hose he was talking about - I have not even looked at a gas engine in a number of years, and not actually worked on one since my '62 Alfa.. Anyone able to talk me through how to do this? Just which hose and how to find it, or other suggestions. At 130k miles and 28 years anything I should especially look out for? Thanks - BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD, and hoping to add to the fleet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 450SEL with fuel problems
Fuel pump is shot, or the air flow meter flap is stuck, it has no fuel delivery (could just be a fuel pump relay, too). Might be a big vac leak as well (torn boot between airflow meter and throttle body) At least it's not blowing huge black smoke clouds, that means a new fuel distributor! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 450SEL with fuel problems
That's what I need to know. I am just looking for something for my daughter to drive until I can buy the 300 SEL from Donald. Here is the owner's reply to my questions: Hey, Bill, The "update" wasn't referring to the engine. That was an information update for the ad. The engine is the original. The fuel system problem is from the gas going stale. The car sat in a shop for a couple of years. I have no idea what the gas mileage was like, but it probably wasn't all that good with that huge V8. When I keep a steady feed going into the air valve, it runs good and sounds good. As for a history, I can only vouch for the past 3 years. I bought it to fix up for myself, but am moving up north and can't take it w/ me. By the looks of the car, it had a pretty easy life and was just parked and forgotten. The interior is in good condition. No rips or tears. Just needs to be cleaned. The floor mats and carpet also look good. It needs a paint job, but the body is straight. Now, it has a flat tire, but shouldn't be any problem to move. Come out and take a look, Bill, I think you will like it for $750 cash. If interested, give me a call @ 904 619-9859. Thanks, Metal Mike Thoughts everyone? Thanks - Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '79 450SEL with fuel problems Well its probably going to need ALOT of work, fuel parts probably means it needs a new fuel pump, fuel tank removed and cleaned out, maybe a fuel distributor. Rust is a major problem on those cars. In the end, if you sort it out you will probably have a $900 car when you are done. BillR wrote: > " '79 mercedes 450 sel, v8.update: silver with blue leather interior. body > straight, interior all good , needs paint and fuel system parts , can start > and hear run. odometer is at 130+k mi. call mike @ 904 379-9552 or > 545-8183." > > http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/356791769.html > > > > This is cheap enough that I might take a look. What problems should I be > looking for in a W116 ? I fear the 'update v8' might mean a Chevy engine? > > He doesn't say what fuel parts it needs - any thoughts? > > Thanks - . > > BillR > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 450SEL with fuel problems
Well its probably going to need ALOT of work, fuel parts probably means it needs a new fuel pump, fuel tank removed and cleaned out, maybe a fuel distributor. Rust is a major problem on those cars. In the end, if you sort it out you will probably have a $900 car when you are done. BillR wrote: > " '79 mercedes 450 sel, v8.update: silver with blue leather interior. body > straight, interior all good , needs paint and fuel system parts , can start > and hear run. odometer is at 130+k mi. call mike @ 904 379-9552 or > 545-8183." > > http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/356791769.html > > > > This is cheap enough that I might take a look. What problems should I be > looking for in a W116 ? I fear the 'update v8' might mean a Chevy engine? > > He doesn't say what fuel parts it needs - any thoughts? > > Thanks - . > > BillR > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '79 450SEL with fuel problems
All the rubber bits that seal the injection/intake system? Fuel distributer? On 6/21/07, BillR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > " '79 mercedes 450 sel, v8.update: silver with blue leather interior. body > straight, interior all good , needs paint and fuel system parts , can start > and hear run. odometer is at 130+k mi. call mike @ 904 379-9552 or > 545-8183." > > http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/356791769.html > > > > This is cheap enough that I might take a look. What problems should I be > looking for in a W116 ? I fear the 'update v8' might mean a Chevy engine? > > He doesn't say what fuel parts it needs - any thoughts? > > Thanks - . > > BillR -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -James Madison '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '79 450SEL with fuel problems
" '79 mercedes 450 sel, v8.update: silver with blue leather interior. body straight, interior all good , needs paint and fuel system parts , can start and hear run. odometer is at 130+k mi. call mike @ 904 379-9552 or 545-8183." http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/356791769.html This is cheap enough that I might take a look. What problems should I be looking for in a W116 ? I fear the 'update v8' might mean a Chevy engine? He doesn't say what fuel parts it needs - any thoughts? Thanks - . BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com