Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak, tools needed?
After closer inspection, I do not believe it is the output shaft seal. I have taken a picture of the '85 722.315 tranny that appears to be the same in this area. http://www.gulseth.net/photos/SDL_trans_leak_area.JPG Outlined by the red box is the problem area. What is this, and how should I address leaks here?? TIA all, Luther, full of questions this morning... On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:52:40 -0600, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I need that notched socket? Is it the 30mm socket for the tail shaft nut? I need to try and do this Monday or Tuesday while the weather is clear and I'm not working. Thanks. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak, tools needed?
Luther, full of questions this morning... I'm thinkin' if this was banned you'd find out you're full of more than questions. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak, tools needed?
Looks like the cover for the governor. Dan --- Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After closer inspection, I do not believe it is the output shaft seal. I have taken a picture of the '85 722.315 tranny that appears to be the same in this area. http://www.gulseth.net/photos/SDL_trans_leak_area.JPG Outlined by the red box is the problem area. What is this, and how should I address leaks here?? TIA all, Luther, full of questions this morning... On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:52:40 -0600, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I need that notched socket? Is it the 30mm socket for the tail shaft nut? I need to try and do this Monday or Tuesday while the weather is clear and I'm not working. Thanks. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak, tools needed?
Thats the rear pump. I just replaced the seal on mine on my 560, well a while back. Its a bitch to mess with. Is yours leaking from the c clip area on the center of the pump or from where the pump mounts to the tranny? Luther wrote: After closer inspection, I do not believe it is the output shaft seal. I have taken a picture of the '85 722.315 tranny that appears to be the same in this area. http://www.gulseth.net/photos/SDL_trans_leak_area.JPG Outlined by the red box is the problem area. What is this, and how should I address leaks here?? TIA all, Luther, full of questions this morning... On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:52:40 -0600, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I need that notched socket? Is it the 30mm socket for the tail shaft nut? I need to try and do this Monday or Tuesday while the weather is clear and I'm not working. Thanks. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak, tools needed?
Seems like the C-clip and the bolts. There's some red gasket sealer already in the area that's oozed out from a previous seal attempt. On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:58:09 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats the rear pump. I just replaced the seal on mine on my 560, well a while back. Its a bitch to mess with. Is yours leaking from the c clip area on the center of the pump or from where the pump mounts to the tranny? Luther wrote: After closer inspection, I do not believe it is the output shaft seal. I have taken a picture of the '85 722.315 tranny that appears to be the same in this area. http://www.gulseth.net/photos/SDL_trans_leak_area.JPG Outlined by the red box is the problem area. What is this, and how should I address leaks here?? TIA all, Luther, full of questions this morning... On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:52:40 -0600, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I need that notched socket? Is it the 30mm socket for the tail shaft nut? I need to try and do this Monday or Tuesday while the weather is clear and I'm not working. Thanks. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak, tools needed?
Well if so then its 2 different leaks. On mine, it was leaking from the c clip area, so I just pulled one off another trans and swapped it in. Stupid me I didnt replace the big o-ring under the assembly and it leaked from there. So I had to pull it apart again. Thats the hard part, trying to get the oring to stay in place while you reinstall it. Luther wrote: Seems like the C-clip and the bolts. There's some red gasket sealer already in the area that's oozed out from a previous seal attempt. On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:58:09 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thats the rear pump. I just replaced the seal on mine on my 560, well a while back. Its a bitch to mess with. Is yours leaking from the c clip area on the center of the pump or from where the pump mounts to the tranny? Luther wrote: After closer inspection, I do not believe it is the output shaft seal. I have taken a picture of the '85 722.315 tranny that appears to be the same in this area. http://www.gulseth.net/photos/SDL_trans_leak_area.JPG Outlined by the red box is the problem area. What is this, and how should I address leaks here?? TIA all, Luther, full of questions this morning... On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:52:40 -0600, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I need that notched socket? Is it the 30mm socket for the tail shaft nut? I need to try and do this Monday or Tuesday while the weather is clear and I'm not working. Thanks. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak, tools needed?
Do I need that notched socket? Is it the 30mm socket for the tail shaft nut? I need to try and do this Monday or Tuesday while the weather is clear and I'm not working. Thanks. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (176 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak, tools needed?
Do I need that notched socket? Is it the 30mm socket for the tail shaft nut? I would have to look to be sure, but I think by 86 the castle nut was no longer used. I'm not sure of the size. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak, tools needed?
The socket I have is for the castle nut, so Luther, you need to figure out if that is what you need or not. Jim Cathey wrote: Do I need that notched socket? Is it the 30mm socket for the tail shaft nut? I would have to look to be sure, but I think by 86 the castle nut was no longer used. I'm not sure of the size. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak, tools needed?
I can tomorrow morning Luther On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:07:19 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The socket I have is for the castle nut, so Luther, you need to figure out if that is what you need or not. Jim Cathey wrote: Do I need that notched socket? Is it the 30mm socket for the tail shaft nut? I would have to look to be sure, but I think by 86 the castle nut was no longer used. I'm not sure of the size. -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#transmission 41mm 6 point socket? No, I don't think so. I think it's one of the 30mm 12-point jobs. (I don't have one.) -- Jim At least on my '91 300d its a 12 point nut. While (I think) its nominally a 30mm bolt, my 30mm 1/2 drive 12 point socket wasn't deep enough- I ended up using a 3/4 drive 12 point 'Merican socket (I think its 1 3/16, can check tonight if you want) that my Dad had in his box. I always wondered why- might be usable on old Bug rear wheels or something like that. The nut is peened over at one point as well- Tony Wirtel ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
yes Luther wrote: Can it be done in car? Luther On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:45:13 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My transmission is leaking from around the output shaft. Can someone provide me with hints and tricks for RRing the output shaft seal? TIA all. You need whatever socket removes the tailshaft nut. May be castle, more likely 12-point. After that I think it's a standard pry it out with screwdriver hammered through it and tap in a new one. -- Jim -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
My transmission is leaking from around the output shaft. Can someone provide me with hints and tricks for RRing the output shaft seal? TIA all. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
My transmission is leaking from around the output shaft. Can someone provide me with hints and tricks for RRing the output shaft seal? TIA all. You need whatever socket removes the tailshaft nut. May be castle, more likely 12-point. After that I think it's a standard pry it out with screwdriver hammered through it and tap in a new one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
Can it be done in car? Luther On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:45:13 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My transmission is leaking from around the output shaft. Can someone provide me with hints and tricks for RRing the output shaft seal? TIA all. You need whatever socket removes the tailshaft nut. May be castle, more likely 12-point. After that I think it's a standard pry it out with screwdriver hammered through it and tap in a new one. -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
Er, can it be done with the transmission in car? On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:48:56 -0600, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can it be done in car? Luther On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:45:13 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My transmission is leaking from around the output shaft. Can someone provide me with hints and tricks for RRing the output shaft seal? TIA all. You need whatever socket removes the tailshaft nut. May be castle, more likely 12-point. After that I think it's a standard pry it out with screwdriver hammered through it and tap in a new one. -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#transmission 41mm 6 point socket? Luther On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:45:13 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My transmission is leaking from around the output shaft. Can someone provide me with hints and tricks for RRing the output shaft seal? TIA all. You need whatever socket removes the tailshaft nut. May be castle, more likely 12-point. After that I think it's a standard pry it out with screwdriver hammered through it and tap in a new one. -- Jim -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
Can it be done in car? I think so. Certainly so on a 450 SL. I bought the seal for when the tranny was out, but it looked good and didn't leak, and I determined to replace it in-car if it ever did leak. Didn't ever leak, I sold the car six years later, and still have the seal in a box somewhere. (I did replace the front seal and the front pump seal.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#transmission 41mm 6 point socket? No, I don't think so. I think it's one of the 30mm 12-point jobs. (I don't have one.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
no, not hard. Need special socket for the back nut though. Luther wrote: Noticed the other day that the tranny started slipping. Added some fluid the other day and it started slipping again today. Grr, so I looked for fluid leaks and it seams to be coming from the very back of the tranny. The driveshaft has some red moisture, along with the exhaust and exhaust bracket. Seems I'll be doing a tail shaft seal. Anyone else done this? Is it very tough? Will I need any special tools (other than the tranny lift) to perform this? TIA all. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
What size is this socket I need and where should I purchase it? It's a 12-point deep socket, but I forget the size. 27mm? I always meant to get one. What I have is the special castle nut socket for its predecessor. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
If that's the case, I have a 12 point 27mmI would guess that it's bigger than that -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What size is this socket I need and where should I purchase it? It's a 12-point deep socket, but I forget the size. 27mm? I always meant to get one. What I have is the special castle nut socket for its predecessor. -- Jim
[MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
Noticed the other day that the tranny started slipping. Added some fluid the other day and it started slipping again today. Grr, so I looked for fluid leaks and it seams to be coming from the very back of the tranny. The driveshaft has some red moisture, along with the exhaust and exhaust bracket. Seems I'll be doing a tail shaft seal. Anyone else done this? Is it very tough? Will I need any special tools (other than the tranny lift) to perform this? TIA all. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
I believe you need a special socket for the tail shaft nut. I think it has a retainer too, but a chisel will fold that back out. Peter
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
Seems I'll be doing a tail shaft seal... Is it very tough? Will I need any special tools (other than the tranny lift) to perform this? I don't think you need any special tools to do a tailshaft seal, except whatever socket you need to release the nut. The tranny stays in place. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] '86 SDL tranny leak
Wow, so all I need to do is drop the driveline and pull the tail shaft seal that way? What size is this socket I need and where should I purchase it? -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (271,xxx mi) needs head '83 300SD (246,645 mi) SOLD! '82 300CD (166 kmi) getting front end rebuild '82 300D (74 kmi) getting '85 donor engine-SOLD! '85 300D (280,176) parts car-sans engine Quoting Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Seems I'll be doing a tail shaft seal... Is it very tough? Will I need any special tools (other than the tranny lift) to perform this? I don't think you need any special tools to do a tailshaft seal, except whatever socket you need to release the nut. The tranny stays in place. -- Jim
