Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
Regarding bugs in the vent tube. It wasn't my MB, but my folks RV generator vent that got clogged with some bug nest, and wouldn't run. Luckily, a gen service guy guessed it might be that, cleared it, and sent my folks on their way, free of charge. Rob '85 300D Costa Mesa, CA -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:28:02 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again? To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I have heard stories of wasps mudding up the vent on diesel fuel tanks, could be repeatable because some bees home back to the same place again and again. Or if you drive over freshly irrigated ground, you might be clogging the vent, which hangs down at the front center of the tank and has a little screen unit on it about 3/4 inch diameter. Good luck, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles In a message dated 1/26/2008 8:57:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was only this afternoon when filling the tank I discovered the great vacuum in the tank and became concerned could the vent be stopped up again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
Nice service guy. Usually, when presented a chance to make money in a screwing fashion, they will. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aleph93 Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:32 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again? Regarding bugs in the vent tube. It wasn't my MB, but my folks RV generator vent that got clogged with some bug nest, and wouldn't run. Luckily, a gen service guy guessed it might be that, cleared it, and sent my folks on their way, free of charge. Rob '85 300D Costa Mesa, CA -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:28:02 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again? To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I have heard stories of wasps mudding up the vent on diesel fuel tanks, could be repeatable because some bees home back to the same place again and again. Or if you drive over freshly irrigated ground, you might be clogging the vent, which hangs down at the front center of the tank and has a little screen unit on it about 3/4 inch diameter. Good luck, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles In a message dated 1/26/2008 8:57:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was only this afternoon when filling the tank I discovered the great vacuum in the tank and became concerned could the vent be stopped up again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
A pretty common thing in RV gensets, as well as on propane ones where the vent line for the regulator gets clogged by bugs and the unit will start but not run because you can't get atmospheric pressure on the vent side of the secondary fuel regulator. I had an asshat service manager that told one of my service guys to do a valve job on a brand new, propane powered slant 6 Chrysler industrial engine (Onan 30 kW genset) because it would start and not run. When it still wouldn't work after he did the top end job, I went out to look at it and found the vent line for the regulator clogged with dirt. Seems that when they set the enclosure on the ground, the vent line got stuck in the dirt and someone pulled it out without cleaning it out. Duh. Dan --- Aleph93 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding bugs in the vent tube. It wasn't my MB, but my folks RV generator vent that got clogged with some bug nest, and wouldn't run. Luckily, a gen service guy guessed it might be that, cleared it, and sent my folks on their way, free of charge. Rob '85 300D Costa Mesa, CA Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
The vent is under the car by the rear suspension somewhere. It is the prefect size for a mud dauber to build a nice nest in. I 've also know spiders to seal them up with silk for a nice home. Clean it out properly and you should be fine. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
My brother gave me a weedeater that quit running well, although mainly because it wasn't easy for his wife to use. Wouldn't start, and I nearly busted myself trying. Cleaned out the carb, set the mixture, cleaned the plug, everything. It would hit about twice on ether, so I knew it was working ignition wise. Finally, I was about to call my brother to see what I was missing when he dropped by, and he said have you checked the muffler? Sure enough, mud dauber nest. Poked it out with a screwdriver and it fired right up. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
When the vemt was plugged on my 240D I left the cap a little loose, don't fuel up all the way though. Try taking the little trumpet thing off the end of the line, its got a checkvalve of some sort, could be stuck. -Curt Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:10:05 -0500 From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII 1985 300D The amount of vacuum that was in the tank... OY! I can understand how the previous tank was collapsed to 1/2 it's volume. I just can't figure how the vent is stopped again as it was just clear. Wonder if it's hurt to leave the fuel filler cap slightly open until I get a chance to check it out? (Sure can't afford to crunch another tank!) T - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
#1 thing to check on any small 2 stroke. People put too much oil in the gas and the exhaust gets carboned up. That and they don't run them flat out enough. Let any 2 stroke sit and idle enough and it'll plug the exhaust. Of course some of my cousins left a chainsaw lying around because it mysteriously wouldn't run. I drained out the bar oil they'd filled the gas tank with and after a little flushing it ran great. Then they stole it back... -Curt Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:55:00 -0800 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed My brother gave me a weedeater that quit running well, although mainly because it wasn't easy for his wife to use. Wouldn't start, and I nearly busted myself trying. Cleaned out the carb, set the mixture, cleaned the plug, everything. It would hit about twice on ether, so I knew it was working ignition wise. Finally, I was about to call my brother to see what I was missing when he dropped by, and he said have you checked the muffler? Sure enough, mud dauber nest. Poked it out with a screwdriver and it fired right up. Peter - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
Few months ago I reported that a fuel tank was imploded due to vent having been stopped up? That was repaired, tank was replaced, crushed fuel sending unit replaced and lines were blown out. Tonight I was concerned. I returned from a little road trip and stopped for fuel. I haven't actually had to buy fuel in a month since I had the tank replaced. The suctin in the tank was such that the fuel cap was difficult to remove. I mean, tug hard and then a huge woosh sound of sucking air. Any thoughts? T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
Yeah, it's not venting! Barry (ducking) BTW What model was this? The suction in the tank was such that the fuel cap was difficult to remove. I mean, tug hard and then a huge woosh sound of sucking air. Any thoughts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
Timothy Robinson wrote: Any thoughts? Is the tank vent clear? You might want to get a spare cap and drill it, or take off the cap gasket until you get this fixed. (if you don't want another crumpled tank) You should not be able to pull a vacuum on the tank via the fuel lines under the hood. As long as you can do that, so can the engine. You might want to pull up the carpet in the trunk and take a look, it would be a pity if the new tank has a crease in it already. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
1985 300D The amount of vacuum that was in the tank... OY! I can understand how the previous tank was collapsed to 1/2 it's volume. I just can't figure how the vent is stopped again as it was just clear. Wonder if it's hurt to leave the fuel filler cap slightly open until I get a chance to check it out? (Sure can't afford to crunch another tank!) T From: Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:53:18 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again? Yeah, it's not venting! Barry (ducking) BTW What model was this? The suction in the tank was such that the fuel cap was difficult to remove. I mean, tug hard and then a huge woosh sound of sucking air. Any thoughts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
The suction in the tank was such that the fuel cap was difficult to remove. I mean, tug hard and then a huge woosh sound of sucking air. So, exactly what did you do to CURE the original problem? Did you replace the vent valve? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
Jim, Just purchased the car last summer and didn't even drive it until about September. The fuel gauge didn't work. No big deal as I just made it a habit of topping it off regularly. Average one leg of day's commute is about 27-30 miles. I ran out of fuel... but was suprised when it only took 8 gallons to fill the tank. Repeat of same... I discovered the tank was imploded to like 1/2 it's volume. The previous owner admitted that he thought someone had used the car at one time to smuggle drugs (seriously, that's what he thought as he'd discovered the tank had been crushed in to make room for a big ole sack of dope.) Anyway, it was obvious that vent was clogged. I wound up replacing the tank and broken sending unit. Was good as new. Indie said the vent was clear. It was only this afternoon when filling the tank I discovered the great vacuum in the tank and became concerned could the vent be stopped up again. T (Told you the long story... because as I'd written before, I got the care super cheap 'cause the previous owner had discovered the tank which he didn't disclose at sale.) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:13:04 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again? The suction in the tank was such that the fuel cap was difficult to remove. I mean, tug hard and then a huge woosh sound of sucking air. So, exactly what did you do to CURE the original problem? Did you replace the vent valve? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
I have heard stories of wasps mudding up the vent on diesel fuel tanks, could be repeatable because some bees home back to the same place again and again. Or if you drive over freshly irrigated ground, you might be clogging the vent, which hangs down at the front center of the tank and has a little screen unit on it about 3/4 inch diameter. Good luck, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles In a message dated 1/26/2008 8:57:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was only this afternoon when filling the tank I discovered the great vacuum in the tank and became concerned could the vent be stopped up again. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
I even considered if water might have gotten into the vent line and perhaps frozen. Was in 20s tonight when I fueled. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:28:02 EST To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again? I have heard stories of wasps mudding up the vent on diesel fuel tanks, could be repeatable because some bees home back to the same place again and again. Or if you drive over freshly irrigated ground, you might be clogging the vent, which hangs down at the front center of the tank and has a little screen unit on it about 3/4 inch diameter. Good luck, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles In a message dated 1/26/2008 8:57:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was only this afternoon when filling the tank I discovered the great vacuum in the tank and became concerned could the vent be stopped up again. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300 025 48) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
Anyway, it was obvious that vent was clogged. I wound up replacing the tank and broken sending unit. Was good as new. Indie said the vent was clear. The vent is a double-acting valve. Perhaps you should replace it? Certainly check it out. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
