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Redghost wrote: > > algore will be remembered for being chicken little. He will have > been right about it getting hotter, but wrong about why If he's still in living memory when the next ice age hits, he'll be the subject of much hatred. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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algore will be remembered for being chicken little. He will have been right about it getting hotter, but wrong about why On 3 Sep 2007, at 13:05, andrew strasfogel wrote: > Meanwhile, the West is burning up, there are record heat waves, and > the French wine grape harvest is starting 2 months earlier than it was > in the 70s. It's far more likely that Al Gore will be remembered as a > visionary rather than the butt of jokes. > > On 9/3/07, Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> OMGwhat will algore do for a living? Guess all his carbon >> credits will >> be pretty much worthless soon. >> >> RE >> >> >> From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> H, that is one inconvenient truth! >> >> --R >> >> Craig McCluskey wrote: >>> On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:38:33 -0500 "Tom Hargrave" >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> In case you've not been following the trends, most scientists are now jumping off the global warming band wagon. And the reason? All agree that the climate is changing but good scientific analysis cannot correlate human activity with climate change. The consensus is moving towards natural climate change, possibly long term cycles in weather that we are just beginning to understand. >>> >>> Things like Mars warming up at the same time are a pretty telling >>> argument. >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now climate [was:Re: Don Wills has invited you to joinKiva - populations discussion]
But Hendrik, you have this all wrong and bass ackward. We need the weapon system to control the weather. If we are able to decrease the total world population by a significant number, we should be able to reduce global warming by a concurrent amount, since the dead have no need for cheap chinese goods, food grown with petro chemicals, fuel for vehicles, or heated homes. From what I have seen in my life, the dead are the ultimate anti consumers. Spend the billions of dollars to eradicate the populations of .asia and we could have decreased human impacts on the climate for at least another millenia On 2 Sep 2007, at 22:17, Hendrik wrote: > Yes but the big question is can we become masters of the climate or > are > we going to stand by like the dinosaurs did? Obviously not, we are to > busy spending squillions on weapons research to come up with better > ways > of killing each other. > Hang on, perhaps we can sell the idea that if we can control the > climate > it can be used as a weapon. Don't like the Ruskis? Easy, freeze em to > death. Those funny Aussies starting to be a pain? Turn up the heat and > watch em fry. China getting too big for their boots? Heat up the south > and freeze the north and bomb the part in the middle. > North Korea got the bomb or WMD's? Tooo easy, it's pretty cold there > already. > However to really get the ball rolling on this we have to convince the > pentagon that Iran is doing research into climate control weapons. > > LarryT wrote: >> The earth has been warming for 20,000 years - there used to be >> glaciers in >> Kansas. The controversary concerns the cause. Some believe people >> cause it >> others believe it is caused by various things such as the sun, >> oceans, etc. >> >> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) >> >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think the hoax part is that humans are to be held accountable for a natural occurrence that is so far beyond what we could do. Yes, it is getting hot. yes, there are dire consequences. The most recent science points to other causes than something we did. Looks more like solar activity is the greater cause of heating. Unless you are going to say the mars rovers have upset the delicate balance on Mars and have caused it to heat up as well. On 2 Sep 2007, at 19:05, Wonko the Sane wrote: > You got a D+ in English, didn't you, Gary? You obviously can't read > for > content? > > I fully believe there is bad-mojo climate stuff going on. I didn't > want to > see my name in the subject line where the accompanying message said > "hoax" > or "isn't happening." > > Personally, I think we are like Noah pre-flood. "What, it isn't > raining > YET!" > > On 9/2/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> you don't believe it's hot out there, you dope? >> >> On 9/2/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Just as an aside, I'd prefer that my name was not associated with >>> posts >>> saying that global warming isn't a fact. >>> >>> D. >>> >>> >>> On 9/2/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: H, that is one inconvenient truth! --R Craig McCluskey wrote: > On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:38:33 -0500 "Tom Hargrave" < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> In case you've not been following the trends, most scientists are >> now >> jumping off the global warming band wagon. And the reason? All >> agree >> that the climate is changing but good scientific analysis cannot >> correlate human activity with climate change. The consensus is >> moving >> towards natural climate change, possibly long term cycles in >> weather >> that we are just beginning to understand. >> > > Things like Mars warming up at the same time are a pretty telling > argument. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// > www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> LT Don >>> http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ >>> >>> Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >>> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > -- > LT Don > http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ > > Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think you just summed up the whole issue. On 9/3/07, Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The only thing more amazing than the ingenuity of mankind is the > stupidity of mankind. > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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If Wal-Mart were a country, they would be China's 6th largest trading partner. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 8:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now climate [was:Re: Don Wills has invited you to joinKiva - populations discussion] And loads of other raw materials, China has just overtaken Japan as our major trading partner. andrew strasfogel wrote: > Australia exports millions of tons of coal to China > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Our dependence on oil is an entire nother story. Providing we can find a way to power your 6 liter SUV with a renewable resource, then why not? It's also interesting that you mentioned that we need a huge AC to cool the planet. In other words, we should find a way to intervene without understanding full impact of "global warming" and the repercussions of our actions? Our history is full of repercussions of our actions, the most obvious to me is the kudzu that growing rampant in my back yard because we (Humans) decided that kudzu would make great ground cover and animal feed. The stuff grows so fast that you can watch it grow. Then there's the deer that are running rampant up and down the East Coast because we (Humans) thought it was proper to kill off their natural predators, the American Wolf. There are 100's of similar published examples of "Human intervention". And now you expect Humans to fiddle with the climate? The whole idea scares the h*ll out of me! Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: Hendrik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 8:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now climate [was:Re: Don Wills has invited you to So because it is not humans causing GW it is alright and we can keep driving 6 liter SUV's? What we need is a huge air conditioner to cool the planet down :-) The only thing more amazing than the ingenuity of mankind is the stupidity of mankind. Tom Hargrave wrote: > I don't think that those who are arguing against global warming are > disputing the fact that it's getting warmer, just the correlation between > rising temperature & human activity. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So because it is not humans causing GW it is alright and we can keep driving 6 liter SUV's? What we need is a huge air conditioner to cool the planet down :-) The only thing more amazing than the ingenuity of mankind is the stupidity of mankind. Tom Hargrave wrote: > I don't think that those who are arguing against global warming are > disputing the fact that it's getting warmer, just the correlation between > rising temperature & human activity. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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And loads of other raw materials, China has just overtaken Japan as our major trading partner. andrew strasfogel wrote: > Australia exports millions of tons of coal to China > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Who knows, they have bucket loads of money and are using that to further their interest around the world. Yesterday the Chinese president was in Western Australia checking out mines, so I dare say that they will be investing heavily in ensuring a supply of raw materials, the problem we are having is getting the manpower on the ground to dig the stuff out. Unfortunately Australia has a history of doing the easy thing, the easy thing being that we supply China et al with raw materials and our manufacturing industry goes to the dogs. Our politicians are too gutless to put pressure on China in regard to human rights/basic wages and as a result China sees Australia as being soft and will probably have the upper hand in the future. This leading to an interference in our domestic politics. Whereas China is sensitive to outside interference I do not see them being as touchy when it comes to them meddling in other countries politics. No I don't think that there is a disproportional amount of Chinese immigration, Australia is a very xenophobic country but I suppose it is attractive to have 'guest workers' do the hard yakka while we sit on the beach and relax. archer wrote: > Do you think there's much danger of Australia eventually falling under the > domination of China? I've read that there is quite a bit of Chinese > immigration. > Gerry > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I don't think that those who are arguing against global warming are disputing the fact that it's getting warmer, just the correlation between rising temperature & human activity. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 3:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now climate [was:Re: Don Wills has invited you to Meanwhile, the West is burning up, there are record heat waves, and the French wine grape harvest is starting 2 months earlier than it was in the 70s. It's far more likely that Al Gore will be remembered as a visionary rather than the butt of jokes. On 9/3/07, Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OMGwhat will algore do for a living? Guess all his carbon credits will > be pretty much worthless soon. > > RE > > > From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > H, that is one inconvenient truth! > > --R > > Craig McCluskey wrote: > > On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:38:33 -0500 "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> In case you've not been following the trends, most scientists are now > >> jumping off the global warming band wagon. And the reason? All agree > >> that the climate is changing but good scientific analysis cannot > >> correlate human activity with climate change. The consensus is moving > >> towards natural climate change, possibly long term cycles in weather > >> that we are just beginning to understand. > >> > > > > Things like Mars warming up at the same time are a pretty telling > > argument. > > > > > > Craig > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The hottest year on record was '31-'32 - not in the 80s as reported previously. NASA has revisited the data and found errors resulting in a change in the timing. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now climate [was:Re: Don Wills has invited you to > Meanwhile, the West is burning up, there are record heat waves, and > the French wine grape harvest is starting 2 months earlier than it was > in the 70s. It's far more likely that Al Gore will be remembered as a > visionary rather than the butt of jokes. > > On 9/3/07, Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> OMGwhat will algore do for a living? Guess all his carbon credits >> will >> be pretty much worthless soon. >> >> RE >> >> >> From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> H, that is one inconvenient truth! >> >> --R >> >> Craig McCluskey wrote: >> > On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:38:33 -0500 "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > >> >> In case you've not been following the trends, most scientists are now >> >> jumping off the global warming band wagon. And the reason? All agree >> >> that the climate is changing but good scientific analysis cannot >> >> correlate human activity with climate change. The consensus is moving >> >> towards natural climate change, possibly long term cycles in weather >> >> that we are just beginning to understand. >> >> >> > >> > Things like Mars warming up at the same time are a pretty telling >> > argument. >> > >> > >> > Craig >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.3/986 - Release Date: 9/3/2007 > 9:31 AM > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Australia exports millions of tons of coal to China. On 9/3/07, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you think there's much danger of Australia eventually falling under the > domination of China? I've read that there is quite a bit of Chinese > immigration. > Gerry > - > - Original Message - > From: "Hendrik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Ahh yes that great communist state, getting just about as vain as the > > the US. > > > > archer wrote: > >> -- > >> China is already doing weather control research. They are spending > >> several > >> million in order to keep it from raining during the Olympic games IIRC. > >> Gerry Archer > >> '83 300D and 240D > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now climate [was:Re: Don Wills has invited you to
Meanwhile, the West is burning up, there are record heat waves, and the French wine grape harvest is starting 2 months earlier than it was in the 70s. It's far more likely that Al Gore will be remembered as a visionary rather than the butt of jokes. On 9/3/07, Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OMGwhat will algore do for a living? Guess all his carbon credits will > be pretty much worthless soon. > > RE > > > From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > H, that is one inconvenient truth! > > --R > > Craig McCluskey wrote: > > On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:38:33 -0500 "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> In case you've not been following the trends, most scientists are now > >> jumping off the global warming band wagon. And the reason? All agree > >> that the climate is changing but good scientific analysis cannot > >> correlate human activity with climate change. The consensus is moving > >> towards natural climate change, possibly long term cycles in weather > >> that we are just beginning to understand. > >> > > > > Things like Mars warming up at the same time are a pretty telling > > argument. > > > > > > Craig > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Do you think there's much danger of Australia eventually falling under the domination of China? I've read that there is quite a bit of Chinese immigration. Gerry - - Original Message - From: "Hendrik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ahh yes that great communist state, getting just about as vain as the > the US. > > archer wrote: >> -- >> China is already doing weather control research. They are spending >> several >> million in order to keep it from raining during the Olympic games IIRC. >> Gerry Archer >> '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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OMGwhat will algore do for a living? Guess all his carbon credits will be pretty much worthless soon. RE From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H, that is one inconvenient truth! --R Craig McCluskey wrote: > On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:38:33 -0500 "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> In case you've not been following the trends, most scientists are now >> jumping off the global warming band wagon. And the reason? All agree >> that the climate is changing but good scientific analysis cannot >> correlate human activity with climate change. The consensus is moving >> towards natural climate change, possibly long term cycles in weather >> that we are just beginning to understand. >> > > Things like Mars warming up at the same time are a pretty telling > argument. > > > Craig > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ahh yes that great communist state, getting just about as vain as the the US. archer wrote: > -- > China is already doing weather control research. They are spending several > million in order to keep it from raining during the Olympic games IIRC. > Gerry Archer > '83 300D and 240D > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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- Original Message - From: "Hendrik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yes but the big question is can we become masters of the climate or are > we going to stand by like the dinosaurs did? Obviously not, we are to > busy spending squillions on weapons research to come up with better ways > of killing each other. > Hang on, perhaps we can sell the idea that if we can control the climate > it can be used as a weapon. Don't like the Ruskis? Easy, freeze em to > death. Those funny Aussies starting to be a pain? Turn up the heat and > watch em fry. China getting too big for their boots? Heat up the south > and freeze the north and bomb the part in the middle. > North Korea got the bomb or WMD's? Tooo easy, it's pretty cold there > already. > However to really get the ball rolling on this we have to convince the > pentagon that Iran is doing research into climate control weapons. -- China is already doing weather control research. They are spending several million in order to keep it from raining during the Olympic games IIRC. Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yes but the big question is can we become masters of the climate or are we going to stand by like the dinosaurs did? Obviously not, we are to busy spending squillions on weapons research to come up with better ways of killing each other. Hang on, perhaps we can sell the idea that if we can control the climate it can be used as a weapon. Don't like the Ruskis? Easy, freeze em to death. Those funny Aussies starting to be a pain? Turn up the heat and watch em fry. China getting too big for their boots? Heat up the south and freeze the north and bomb the part in the middle. North Korea got the bomb or WMD's? Tooo easy, it's pretty cold there already. However to really get the ball rolling on this we have to convince the pentagon that Iran is doing research into climate control weapons. LarryT wrote: > The earth has been warming for 20,000 years - there used to be glaciers in > Kansas. The controversary concerns the cause. Some believe people cause it > others believe it is caused by various things such as the sun, oceans, etc. > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now climate [was:Re: Don Wills has invited you to joinKiva - populations discussion]
The earth has been warming for 20,000 years - there used to be glaciers in Kansas. The controversary concerns the cause. Some believe people cause it others believe it is caused by various things such as the sun, oceans, etc. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now climate [was:Re: Don Wills has invited you to joinKiva - populations discussion] > You got a D+ in English, didn't you, Gary? You obviously can't read for > content? > > I fully believe there is bad-mojo climate stuff going on. I didn't want to > see my name in the subject line where the accompanying message said "hoax" > or "isn't happening." > > Personally, I think we are like Noah pre-flood. "What, it isn't raining > YET!" > > On 9/2/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> you don't believe it's hot out there, you dope? >> >> On 9/2/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > Just as an aside, I'd prefer that my name was not associated with posts >> > saying that global warming isn't a fact. >> > >> > D. >> > >> > >> > On 9/2/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > >> > > H, that is one inconvenient truth! >> > > >> > > --R >> > > >> > > Craig McCluskey wrote: >> > > > On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:38:33 -0500 "Tom Hargrave" < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> In case you've not been following the trends, most scientists are >> now >> > > >> jumping off the global warming band wagon. And the reason? All >> agree >> > > >> that the climate is changing but good scientific analysis cannot >> > > >> correlate human activity with climate change. The consensus is >> moving >> > > >> towards natural climate change, possibly long term cycles in >> weather >> > > >> that we are just beginning to understand. >> > > >> >> > > > >> > > > Things like Mars warming up at the same time are a pretty telling >> > > > argument. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Craig >> > > > >> > > > ___ >> > > > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > >> > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ___ >> > > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > LT Don >> > http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ >> > >> > Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > -- > LT Don > http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ > > Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 9/1/2007 > 4:20 PM > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now climate [was:Re: Don Wills has invited you to join Kiva - populations discussion]
You got a D+ in English, didn't you, Gary? You obviously can't read for content? I fully believe there is bad-mojo climate stuff going on. I didn't want to see my name in the subject line where the accompanying message said "hoax" or "isn't happening." Personally, I think we are like Noah pre-flood. "What, it isn't raining YET!" On 9/2/07, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > you don't believe it's hot out there, you dope? > > On 9/2/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Just as an aside, I'd prefer that my name was not associated with posts > > saying that global warming isn't a fact. > > > > D. > > > > > > On 9/2/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > H, that is one inconvenient truth! > > > > > > --R > > > > > > Craig McCluskey wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:38:33 -0500 "Tom Hargrave" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> In case you've not been following the trends, most scientists are > now > > > >> jumping off the global warming band wagon. And the reason? All > agree > > > >> that the climate is changing but good scientific analysis cannot > > > >> correlate human activity with climate change. The consensus is > moving > > > >> towards natural climate change, possibly long term cycles in > weather > > > >> that we are just beginning to understand. > > > >> > > > > > > > > Things like Mars warming up at the same time are a pretty telling > > > > argument. > > > > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > LT Don > > http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ > > > > Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now climate [was:Re: Don Wills has invited you to join Kiva - populations discussion]
you don't believe it's hot out there, you dope? On 9/2/07, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just as an aside, I'd prefer that my name was not associated with posts > saying that global warming isn't a fact. > > D. > > > On 9/2/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > H, that is one inconvenient truth! > > > > --R > > > > Craig McCluskey wrote: > > > On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:38:33 -0500 "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> In case you've not been following the trends, most scientists are now > > >> jumping off the global warming band wagon. And the reason? All agree > > >> that the climate is changing but good scientific analysis cannot > > >> correlate human activity with climate change. The consensus is moving > > >> towards natural climate change, possibly long term cycles in weather > > >> that we are just beginning to understand. > > >> > > > > > > Things like Mars warming up at the same time are a pretty telling > > > argument. > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > LT Don > http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ > > Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now climate [was:Re: Don Wills has invited you to join Kiva - populations discussion]
Just as an aside, I'd prefer that my name was not associated with posts saying that global warming isn't a fact. D. On 9/2/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > H, that is one inconvenient truth! > > --R > > Craig McCluskey wrote: > > On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:38:33 -0500 "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> In case you've not been following the trends, most scientists are now > >> jumping off the global warming band wagon. And the reason? All agree > >> that the climate is changing but good scientific analysis cannot > >> correlate human activity with climate change. The consensus is moving > >> towards natural climate change, possibly long term cycles in weather > >> that we are just beginning to understand. > >> > > > > Things like Mars warming up at the same time are a pretty telling > > argument. > > > > > > Craig > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now climate [was:Re: Don Wills has invited you to join Kiva - populations discussion]
H, that is one inconvenient truth! --R Craig McCluskey wrote: > On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:38:33 -0500 "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> In case you've not been following the trends, most scientists are now >> jumping off the global warming band wagon. And the reason? All agree >> that the climate is changing but good scientific analysis cannot >> correlate human activity with climate change. The consensus is moving >> towards natural climate change, possibly long term cycles in weather >> that we are just beginning to understand. >> > > Things like Mars warming up at the same time are a pretty telling > argument. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Now climate [was:Re: Don Wills has invited you to join Kiva - populations discussion]
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:38:33 -0500 "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In case you've not been following the trends, most scientists are now > jumping off the global warming band wagon. And the reason? All agree > that the climate is changing but good scientific analysis cannot > correlate human activity with climate change. The consensus is moving > towards natural climate change, possibly long term cycles in weather > that we are just beginning to understand. Things like Mars warming up at the same time are a pretty telling argument. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
