Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
No failures since then, or haven't driven it since then? Mitch. On 2021-01-17 14:10, Wilton Strickland via Mercedes wrote: Indy MBtech R/R'd brake light sw coupla days ago. We''ll see. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
Indy MBtech R/R'd brake light sw coupla days ago. We''ll see. Thnx. W -From: "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com Sent: Thursday January 14 2021 1:52:53PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK On 2021-01-14 13:49, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Glad to see you Wilton! > Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. There > should be a way to override that. I will post what I find. BTW, the > brake light switch was about $20 full price from the dealer for my > car. Does that mean Mrs Wilton can get out and observe the brake lights not lighting? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com [1] To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ /> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com /> Links: -- [1] http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
exactly, that's the diagnostic test for a failed switch -- it is there but it doesn't close the NO state. --FT On 1/14/21 3:46 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I think the speculation is that the computer is just seeing "you're not stepping on the brake" so it doesn't unlock the gear selector. It's not seeing a problem per se. It can't distinguish a failed switch from "not stepping on the brake" so there is no code. Allan Randy Bennell via Mercedes writes: So, are you saying this iCarsoft tool can see things the expensive scan tools cannot? RB On 14/01/2021 2:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: That's my point, it has not really "failed" in the sense that it is missing from the system, it might just not be activating which might not necessarily throw any code (if indeed the system checks it) --FT On 1/14/21 2:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: BUT, Wilton says "MB Tech checked . . . " so I would assume they looked for codes and did not find anything? RB On 14/01/2021 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: I *think* the $150 iCarsoft can see these switches in real time down in some menu so you can see if they are actually activating, and maybe see the shift selector state to understand what it is thinking. It might not necessarily throw a code since it is not really "failed" in the sense it out of the system, just not activating. Again, if you spend some few thousands of $$ on one of these newer cars, do yourself a favor and spend the $150 so you can deal with this kind of thing without having to deal with a mech who knows nothing about your car other than what the computer is telling zat. You will thank me, you're welcome. --FT On 1/14/21 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Good guess, Rick. That’s a likely candidate. I don’t know about the later models, but as Rick described, brake light switches are cheap as wine for W210s and earlier, possibly later models as well. While I doubt Wilton or Mrs. Wilton would be flexible enough to replace one, it can’t be a terribly expensive job at the dealer or shop. It’s not hard to do, but involves having to get under the driver’s side dash, which even for us younger folks isn’t easy. Good to hear from you, Wilton! I was thinking of you recently while watching the Ken Burns documentaries on Vietnam. -D On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Glad to see you Wilton! Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. There should be a way to override that. I will post what I find. BTW, the brake light switch was about $20 full price from the dealer for my car. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: January 14, 2021 12:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: wilt...@nc.rr.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK Intermittently, we're having trouble getting my 07 E320 Bluetec out of PARK.. Car not parked on slope. So far, we're able to try several times (holding brake, working shift lever, etc.to get it to work normally). Can NOT feel any binding. MB tech checked system coupla weeks ago. Unable to find prob. Suggestions? Wilton ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
I think the speculation is that the computer is just seeing "you're not stepping on the brake" so it doesn't unlock the gear selector. It's not seeing a problem per se. It can't distinguish a failed switch from "not stepping on the brake" so there is no code. Allan Randy Bennell via Mercedes writes: > So, are you saying this iCarsoft tool can see things the expensive scan > tools cannot? > > RB > > > On 14/01/2021 2:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >> That's my point, it has not really "failed" in the sense that it is >> missing from the system, it might just not be activating which might >> not necessarily throw any code (if indeed the system checks it) >> >> --FT >> >> On 1/14/21 2:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: >>> BUT, Wilton says "MB Tech checked . . . " so I would assume they >>> looked for codes and did not find anything? >>> >>> RB >>> >>> On 14/01/2021 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >>>> I *think* the $150 iCarsoft can see these switches in real time down >>>> in some menu so you can see if they are actually activating, and >>>> maybe see the shift selector state to understand what it is >>>> thinking. It might not necessarily throw a code since it is not >>>> really "failed" in the sense it out of the system, just not activating. >>>> >>>> Again, if you spend some few thousands of $$ on one of these newer >>>> cars, do yourself a favor and spend the $150 so you can deal with >>>> this kind of thing without having to deal with a mech who knows >>>> nothing about your car other than what the computer is telling zat. >>>> You will thank me, you're welcome. >>>> >>>> --FT >>>> >>>> On 1/14/21 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >>>>> Good guess, Rick. That’s a likely candidate. >>>>> >>>>> I don’t know about the later models, but as Rick described, brake >>>>> light switches are cheap as wine for W210s and earlier, possibly >>>>> later models as well. While I doubt Wilton or Mrs. Wilton would be >>>>> flexible enough to replace one, it can’t be a terribly expensive >>>>> job at the dealer or shop. It’s not hard to do, but involves having >>>>> to get under the driver’s side dash, which even for us younger >>>>> folks isn’t easy. >>>>> >>>>> Good to hear from you, Wilton! I was thinking of you recently while >>>>> watching the Ken Burns documentaries on Vietnam. >>>>> >>>>> -D >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Glad to see you Wilton! >>>>>> Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. There >>>>>> should be a way to override that. I will post what I find. BTW, >>>>>> the brake light switch was about $20 full price from the dealer >>>>>> for my car. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Rick >>>>>> >>>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>>>> Sent: January 14, 2021 12:43 PM >>>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>>>> Reply-to: wilt...@nc.rr.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>>>> Cc: wilt...@nc.rr.com >>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Intermittently, we're having trouble getting my 07 E320 >>>>>> Bluetec out >>>>>> of PARK.. >>>>>> >>>>>> Car not parked on slope. >>>>>> >>>>>> So far, we're able to try several times (holding brake, >>>>>> working shift >>>>>> lever, etc.to get it to work normally). Can NOT feel any binding. >>>>>> >>>>>> MB tech checked system coupla weeks ago. Unable to find prob. >>>>>> >>>>>> Suggestions? >>>>>> >>>>>> Wilton >>>>>> ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
No, but it might be they didn't test it that way using DAS, i.e., did they activate the brake and see if the shifter could see that action. My point is that a $150 investment is likely to save a lot of grief and time and money and might be able to diagnose a problem without having to deal with a mech or dealer, and to identify some cheap part to replace --FT On 1/14/21 3:07 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: So, are you saying this iCarsoft tool can see things the expensive scan tools cannot? RB On 14/01/2021 2:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: That's my point, it has not really "failed" in the sense that it is missing from the system, it might just not be activating which might not necessarily throw any code (if indeed the system checks it) --FT On 1/14/21 2:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: BUT, Wilton says "MB Tech checked . . . " so I would assume they looked for codes and did not find anything? RB On 14/01/2021 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: I *think* the $150 iCarsoft can see these switches in real time down in some menu so you can see if they are actually activating, and maybe see the shift selector state to understand what it is thinking. It might not necessarily throw a code since it is not really "failed" in the sense it out of the system, just not activating. Again, if you spend some few thousands of $$ on one of these newer cars, do yourself a favor and spend the $150 so you can deal with this kind of thing without having to deal with a mech who knows nothing about your car other than what the computer is telling zat. You will thank me, you're welcome. --FT On 1/14/21 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Good guess, Rick. That’s a likely candidate. I don’t know about the later models, but as Rick described, brake light switches are cheap as wine for W210s and earlier, possibly later models as well. While I doubt Wilton or Mrs. Wilton would be flexible enough to replace one, it can’t be a terribly expensive job at the dealer or shop. It’s not hard to do, but involves having to get under the driver’s side dash, which even for us younger folks isn’t easy. Good to hear from you, Wilton! I was thinking of you recently while watching the Ken Burns documentaries on Vietnam. -D On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Glad to see you Wilton! Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. There should be a way to override that. I will post what I find. BTW, the brake light switch was about $20 full price from the dealer for my car. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: January 14, 2021 12:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: wilt...@nc.rr.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK Intermittently, we're having trouble getting my 07 E320 Bluetec out of PARK.. Car not parked on slope. So far, we're able to try several times (holding brake, working shift lever, etc.to get it to work normally). Can NOT feel any binding. MB tech checked system coupla weeks ago. Unable to find prob. Suggestions? Wilton ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
The problem is that the switch has to be not doing its thing when the scanner is connected. Having worked 5 years in phone support I'm well acquainted with "It wasn't working before I called you." In fact it got to the point that there were a bunch of customers who specifically wanted to talk to me because "It just works when you're on the phone."I usually attributed it to my carefully walking people through the steps so they didn't do the wrong thing. Rule #1 of any kind of support is "Customers lie, they may not even know they're lying." "I did the exact same thing you did. Well, I mean I clicked on this button over here but its the same thing right?" -Curt On Thursday, January 14, 2021, 3:07:50 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: So, are you saying this iCarsoft tool can see things the expensive scan tools cannot? RB On 14/01/2021 2:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > That's my point, it has not really "failed" in the sense that it is > missing from the system, it might just not be activating which might > not necessarily throw any code (if indeed the system checks it) > > --FT > > On 1/14/21 2:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: >> BUT, Wilton says "MB Tech checked . . . " so I would assume they >> looked for codes and did not find anything? >> >> RB >> >> On 14/01/2021 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >>> I *think* the $150 iCarsoft can see these switches in real time down >>> in some menu so you can see if they are actually activating, and >>> maybe see the shift selector state to understand what it is >>> thinking. It might not necessarily throw a code since it is not >>> really "failed" in the sense it out of the system, just not activating. >>> >>> Again, if you spend some few thousands of $$ on one of these newer >>> cars, do yourself a favor and spend the $150 so you can deal with >>> this kind of thing without having to deal with a mech who knows >>> nothing about your car other than what the computer is telling zat. >>> You will thank me, you're welcome. >>> >>> --FT >>> >>> On 1/14/21 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >>>> Good guess, Rick. That’s a likely candidate. >>>> >>>> I don’t know about the later models, but as Rick described, brake >>>> light switches are cheap as wine for W210s and earlier, possibly >>>> later models as well. While I doubt Wilton or Mrs. Wilton would be >>>> flexible enough to replace one, it can’t be a terribly expensive >>>> job at the dealer or shop. It’s not hard to do, but involves having >>>> to get under the driver’s side dash, which even for us younger >>>> folks isn’t easy. >>>> >>>> Good to hear from you, Wilton! I was thinking of you recently while >>>> watching the Ken Burns documentaries on Vietnam. >>>> >>>> -D >>>> >>>>> On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Glad to see you Wilton! >>>>> Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. There >>>>> should be a way to override that. I will post what I find. BTW, >>>>> the brake light switch was about $20 full price from the dealer >>>>> for my car. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Rick >>>>> >>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>>> Sent: January 14, 2021 12:43 PM >>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>>> Reply-to: wilt...@nc.rr.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com >>>>> Cc: wilt...@nc.rr.com >>>>> Subject: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Intermittently, we're having trouble getting my 07 E320 >>>>> Bluetec out >>>>> of PARK.. >>>>> >>>>> Car not parked on slope. >>>>> >>>>> So far, we're able to try several times (holding brake, >>>>> working shift >>>>> lever, etc.to get it to work normally). Can NOT feel any binding. >>>>> >>>>> MB tech checked system coupla weeks ago. Unable to find prob. >>>>> >>>>> Suggestions? >>>>> >>>>> Wilton >>>>> ___ >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
So, are you saying this iCarsoft tool can see things the expensive scan tools cannot? RB On 14/01/2021 2:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: That's my point, it has not really "failed" in the sense that it is missing from the system, it might just not be activating which might not necessarily throw any code (if indeed the system checks it) --FT On 1/14/21 2:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: BUT, Wilton says "MB Tech checked . . . " so I would assume they looked for codes and did not find anything? RB On 14/01/2021 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: I *think* the $150 iCarsoft can see these switches in real time down in some menu so you can see if they are actually activating, and maybe see the shift selector state to understand what it is thinking. It might not necessarily throw a code since it is not really "failed" in the sense it out of the system, just not activating. Again, if you spend some few thousands of $$ on one of these newer cars, do yourself a favor and spend the $150 so you can deal with this kind of thing without having to deal with a mech who knows nothing about your car other than what the computer is telling zat. You will thank me, you're welcome. --FT On 1/14/21 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Good guess, Rick. That’s a likely candidate. I don’t know about the later models, but as Rick described, brake light switches are cheap as wine for W210s and earlier, possibly later models as well. While I doubt Wilton or Mrs. Wilton would be flexible enough to replace one, it can’t be a terribly expensive job at the dealer or shop. It’s not hard to do, but involves having to get under the driver’s side dash, which even for us younger folks isn’t easy. Good to hear from you, Wilton! I was thinking of you recently while watching the Ken Burns documentaries on Vietnam. -D On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Glad to see you Wilton! Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. There should be a way to override that. I will post what I find. BTW, the brake light switch was about $20 full price from the dealer for my car. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: January 14, 2021 12:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: wilt...@nc.rr.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK Intermittently, we're having trouble getting my 07 E320 Bluetec out of PARK.. Car not parked on slope. So far, we're able to try several times (holding brake, working shift lever, etc.to get it to work normally). Can NOT feel any binding. MB tech checked system coupla weeks ago. Unable to find prob. Suggestions? Wilton ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
That's my point, it has not really "failed" in the sense that it is missing from the system, it might just not be activating which might not necessarily throw any code (if indeed the system checks it) --FT On 1/14/21 2:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: BUT, Wilton says "MB Tech checked . . . " so I would assume they looked for codes and did not find anything? RB On 14/01/2021 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: I *think* the $150 iCarsoft can see these switches in real time down in some menu so you can see if they are actually activating, and maybe see the shift selector state to understand what it is thinking. It might not necessarily throw a code since it is not really "failed" in the sense it out of the system, just not activating. Again, if you spend some few thousands of $$ on one of these newer cars, do yourself a favor and spend the $150 so you can deal with this kind of thing without having to deal with a mech who knows nothing about your car other than what the computer is telling zat. You will thank me, you're welcome. --FT On 1/14/21 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Good guess, Rick. That’s a likely candidate. I don’t know about the later models, but as Rick described, brake light switches are cheap as wine for W210s and earlier, possibly later models as well. While I doubt Wilton or Mrs. Wilton would be flexible enough to replace one, it can’t be a terribly expensive job at the dealer or shop. It’s not hard to do, but involves having to get under the driver’s side dash, which even for us younger folks isn’t easy. Good to hear from you, Wilton! I was thinking of you recently while watching the Ken Burns documentaries on Vietnam. -D On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Glad to see you Wilton! Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. There should be a way to override that. I will post what I find. BTW, the brake light switch was about $20 full price from the dealer for my car. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: January 14, 2021 12:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: wilt...@nc.rr.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK Intermittently, we're having trouble getting my 07 E320 Bluetec out of PARK.. Car not parked on slope. So far, we're able to try several times (holding brake, working shift lever, etc.to get it to work normally). Can NOT feel any binding. MB tech checked system coupla weeks ago. Unable to find prob. Suggestions? Wilton ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
BUT, Wilton says "MB Tech checked . . . " so I would assume they looked for codes and did not find anything? RB On 14/01/2021 1:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: I *think* the $150 iCarsoft can see these switches in real time down in some menu so you can see if they are actually activating, and maybe see the shift selector state to understand what it is thinking. It might not necessarily throw a code since it is not really "failed" in the sense it out of the system, just not activating. Again, if you spend some few thousands of $$ on one of these newer cars, do yourself a favor and spend the $150 so you can deal with this kind of thing without having to deal with a mech who knows nothing about your car other than what the computer is telling zat. You will thank me, you're welcome. --FT On 1/14/21 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Good guess, Rick. That’s a likely candidate. I don’t know about the later models, but as Rick described, brake light switches are cheap as wine for W210s and earlier, possibly later models as well. While I doubt Wilton or Mrs. Wilton would be flexible enough to replace one, it can’t be a terribly expensive job at the dealer or shop. It’s not hard to do, but involves having to get under the driver’s side dash, which even for us younger folks isn’t easy. Good to hear from you, Wilton! I was thinking of you recently while watching the Ken Burns documentaries on Vietnam. -D On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Glad to see you Wilton! Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. There should be a way to override that. I will post what I find. BTW, the brake light switch was about $20 full price from the dealer for my car. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: January 14, 2021 12:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: wilt...@nc.rr.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK Intermittently, we're having trouble getting my 07 E320 Bluetec out of PARK.. Car not parked on slope. So far, we're able to try several times (holding brake, working shift lever, etc.to get it to work normally). Can NOT feel any binding. MB tech checked system coupla weeks ago. Unable to find prob. Suggestions? Wilton ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
I *think* the $150 iCarsoft can see these switches in real time down in some menu so you can see if they are actually activating, and maybe see the shift selector state to understand what it is thinking. It might not necessarily throw a code since it is not really "failed" in the sense it out of the system, just not activating. Again, if you spend some few thousands of $$ on one of these newer cars, do yourself a favor and spend the $150 so you can deal with this kind of thing without having to deal with a mech who knows nothing about your car other than what the computer is telling zat. You will thank me, you're welcome. --FT On 1/14/21 1:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Good guess, Rick. That’s a likely candidate. I don’t know about the later models, but as Rick described, brake light switches are cheap as wine for W210s and earlier, possibly later models as well. While I doubt Wilton or Mrs. Wilton would be flexible enough to replace one, it can’t be a terribly expensive job at the dealer or shop. It’s not hard to do, but involves having to get under the driver’s side dash, which even for us younger folks isn’t easy. Good to hear from you, Wilton! I was thinking of you recently while watching the Ken Burns documentaries on Vietnam. -D On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Glad to see you Wilton! Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. There should be a way to override that. I will post what I find. BTW, the brake light switch was about $20 full price from the dealer for my car. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: January 14, 2021 12:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: wilt...@nc.rr.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK Intermittently, we're having trouble getting my 07 E320 Bluetec out of PARK.. Car not parked on slope. So far, we're able to try several times (holding brake, working shift lever, etc.to get it to work normally). Can NOT feel any binding. MB tech checked system coupla weeks ago. Unable to find prob. Suggestions? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
https://youtu.be/54SsD4ukk-w https://youtu.be/1lo8cE-Y4WY > Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. Upon further review, it may NOT be the brake switch. W210 has different maladies the W211. https://youtu.be/wsZs47Cxog8 Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
Good guess, Rick. That’s a likely candidate. I don’t know about the later models, but as Rick described, brake light switches are cheap as wine for W210s and earlier, possibly later models as well. While I doubt Wilton or Mrs. Wilton would be flexible enough to replace one, it can’t be a terribly expensive job at the dealer or shop. It’s not hard to do, but involves having to get under the driver’s side dash, which even for us younger folks isn’t easy. Good to hear from you, Wilton! I was thinking of you recently while watching the Ken Burns documentaries on Vietnam. -D > On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Glad to see you Wilton! > Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. There should be a > way to override that. I will post what I find. BTW, the brake light switch > was about $20 full price from the dealer for my car. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: January 14, 2021 12:43 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: wilt...@nc.rr.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: wilt...@nc.rr.com > Subject: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK > > > >Intermittently, we're having trouble getting my 07 E320 Bluetec out > of PARK.. > >Car not parked on slope. > >So far, we're able to try several times (holding brake, working shift > lever, etc.to get it to work normally). Can NOT feel any binding. > >MB tech checked system coupla weeks ago. Unable to find prob. > >Suggestions? > >Wilton > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
Two sets of contacts. One for lights, one for park lock, I think. I would expect both sets of contacts are inputs to the body control computer, but that is a guess. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: January 14, 2021 12:52 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK On 2021-01-14 13:49, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Glad to see you Wilton! > Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. There > should be a way to override that. I will post what I find. BTW, the > brake light switch was about $20 full price from the dealer for my > car. Does that mean Mrs Wilton can get out and observe the brake lights not lighting? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
On 2021-01-14 13:49, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Glad to see you Wilton! Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. There should be a way to override that. I will post what I find. BTW, the brake light switch was about $20 full price from the dealer for my car. Does that mean Mrs Wilton can get out and observe the brake lights not lighting? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
Does it happen only in freezing weather or at any temp? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
Glad to see you Wilton! Brake switch malfunction. I had the same issue on my W210. There should be a way to override that. I will post what I find. BTW, the brake light switch was about $20 full price from the dealer for my car. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: January 14, 2021 12:43 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: wilt...@nc.rr.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: [MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK Intermittently, we're having trouble getting my 07 E320 Bluetec out of PARK.. Car not parked on slope. So far, we're able to try several times (holding brake, working shift lever, etc.to get it to work normally). Can NOT feel any binding. MB tech checked system coupla weeks ago. Unable to find prob. Suggestions? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 07 E320 Blutec (92 KMI) sticks in PARK
Intermittently, we're having trouble getting my 07 E320 Bluetec out of PARK.. Car not parked on slope. So far, we're able to try several times (holding brake, working shift lever, etc.to get it to work normally). Can NOT feel any binding. MB tech checked system coupla weeks ago. Unable to find prob. Suggestions? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
