Re: [MBZ] 123 Alarm System/electric vacuum pump question
In a message dated 8/29/2006 8:42:46 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In looking through the papers that came with my 1985 300D I found the original window invoice. It lists optional equipment, one of which is item 551, a Anti-Theft Alarm System. The cost was $360. Still don't have it fixed, but it is a factory item. Alan, Have you ever looked at your electric vacuum pump. I think the ones that come with the factory security system have some extra relays built into them and a LOT more wires coming out of them. Most have 3 or 5 wires but one I saw had about 15. Just curious and wondering if the spare vacuum pump I have is rare. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 145 K miles
Re: [MBZ] 123 Alarm System/electric vacuum pump question
The 123 doesnt have an electric vacuum pump. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/29/2006 8:42:46 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In looking through the papers that came with my 1985 300D I found the original window invoice. It lists optional equipment, one of which is item 551, a Anti-Theft Alarm System. The cost was $360. Still don't have it fixed, but it is a factory item. Alan, Have you ever looked at your electric vacuum pump. I think the ones that come with the factory security system have some extra relays built into them and a LOT more wires coming out of them. Most have 3 or 5 wires but one I saw had about 15. Just curious and wondering if the spare vacuum pump I have is rare. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 145 K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 73 280SEL 4.5, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 123 Alarm System/electric vacuum pump question
I just drove the 85 300D home yesterday as the temp gauge went quickly to red hot but I didn't think the engine was getting hot. Put in a replacement gauge yesterday and the temp is fine. Turns out I got it from the original owner, he purchased it in Delaware and brought it to East Tenn when he moved here. Going to work on sorting out the alarm issue and do a routine tune up. If it works out I will make it my daily driver and let the 91 300CE rest a while. It is the Desert Red, one of my favorite MB colors. The leather interior is fried from the sun but I have a pristine MB Tex interior in a '83 300D that I will swap out. The 83 was hit in the front end and got a half-a** repair as the hood doesn't fit correctly, it will soon go to Ebay. Where is the vacuum pump located? That is probably the first place to look for the alarm problem. Alan Duff Knoxville, TN On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:23:14 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Alan, Have you ever looked at your electric vacuum pump. I think the ones that come with the factory security system have some extra relays built into them and a LOT more wires coming out of them. Most have 3 or 5 wires but one I saw had about 15. Just curious and wondering if the spare vacuum pump I have is rare.
Re: [MBZ] 123 Alarm System/electric vacuum pump question
In a message dated 8/30/2006 8:23:15 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where is the vacuum pump located? That is probably the first place to look for the alarm problem. Allan, I assumed you had an electric vacuum pump as most all MB from about 82 on have them. Kaleb says no and he has a bunch of them. IF you have one, it would be in the spare tire well or under the back seat passenger side. It will be enclosed in a triangular shaped foam rubber for silencing, about 6 inches on a side and 4 inches deep.. Alarm failures are often blamed on the Bosch module which you will find under the passenger side carpeting or on the firewall, under the carpeting. A known good spare would be good here. Another point of failure is the electric switch on the drivers door latch, operated by your key. When this contact sticks, the alarm thinks you are being thefted. The switch will sometimes change position in the middle of the night, setting off your alarm. Cleaning the switch will often fix the alarm problem. Now VERY curious to know if you have an electric vacuum pump Good luck, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 145 K miles
Re: [MBZ] 123 Alarm System/electric vacuum pump question
I think the W123 did not have an electric vac pump, only started with the W126 (in the trunk) and the W124 (under the rear seat). On 8/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/30/2006 8:23:15 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where is the vacuum pump located? That is probably the first place to look for the alarm problem. Allan, I assumed you had an electric vacuum pump as most all MB from about 82 on have them. Kaleb says no and he has a bunch of them. IF you have one, it would be in the spare tire well or under the back seat passenger side. It will be enclosed in a triangular shaped foam rubber for silencing, about 6 inches on a side and 4 inches deep.. Alarm failures are often blamed on the Bosch module which you will find under the passenger side carpeting or on the firewall, under the carpeting. A known good spare would be good here. Another point of failure is the electric switch on the drivers door latch, operated by your key. When this contact sticks, the alarm thinks you are being thefted. The switch will sometimes change position in the middle of the night, setting off your alarm. Cleaning the switch will often fix the alarm problem. Now VERY curious to know if you have an electric vacuum pump Good luck, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 262 K miles 98 ML 320, 145 K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- John Freer Palm Springs, CA 1992 500SEL 143K Stardust 1996 Sidekick 57K Kermit 1992 500SL 109K The Flying Plum
Re: [MBZ] 123 Alarm System/electric vacuum pump question
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Alan, I assumed you had an electric vacuum pump as most all MB from about 82 on have them. Kaleb says no and he has a bunch of them. It is a mechanical pump in the same place as all the other 123's I have had. Alan
Re: [MBZ] 123 Alarm System/electric vacuum pump question
I think the W123 did not have an electric vac pump, only started with the W126 (in the trunk) and the W124 (under the rear seat). No electrics in 123 to my knowledge. The only car that I know of to have both electric and non-electric vacuum systems was the 107. So 114/115, 116, 107, and 123 go the two-line tanked system, whereas 107, 124, 201, and 126 got the one-line pumped system. Newer than these and you're on your own! -- Jim
[MBZ] 123 Alarm System
In looking through the papers that came with my 1985 300D I found the original window invoice. It lists optional equipment, one of which is item 551, a Anti-Theft Alarm System. The cost was $360. Still don't have it fixed, but it is a factory item. Alan Duff Knoxville, TN
