Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
No.  Not unless you completely rewire things.  But that’s no different than any 
other aftermarket radio you might try and install in the component type Becker 
system.  Nothing is a drop in replacement for the Becker systems with the 
separate amp and tuner/head units.

-D


> On Mar 31, 2017, at 4:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So these will work with the 3 piece setup as used in 91-93?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
Heck with that

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Sure, with extra work / wiring.
> -- 
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> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On March 31, 2017 4:57:32 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> So these will work with the 3 piece setup as used in 91-93?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Nothing but a hole. You'll need the Metra harness. I can look up the
>> number for it if you need one, it's a standard DIN radio harness.
>>> 
>>> When I bought one for my 350SDL I bought the Metra harness and wired
>> it up myself. Pretty easy and straightforward.
>>> 
>>> I may have another on the way from an R129 buddy who bought one and
>> didn't like it. Not sure which car I'll put it in yet...
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 31, 2017, at 1:42 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Will it come with the plugs for the radio end at least so the
>> pigtails could be spliced in, or would it come with nothing but the
>> hole in the radio in which to insert the plug?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>>>>  Original message From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-03-31  12:00 PM  (GMT-06:00) To:
>> Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Meade Dillon
>> <dillonm...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15 
>>>> The harness should be the connectors / adapters to plug into the
>> back of
>>>> the radio and then into your car's existing wiring without any
>> cutting and
>>>> splicing.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, that is steep.  I'll be that Crutchfield sells the separate
>> components
>>>> for about $25 each or so?
>>>> 
>>>> -
>>>> Max
>>>> Charleston SC
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> What do they mean by "without harness"?
>>>>> $50 seems a lot extra for a "harness".
>>>>> 
>>>>> RB
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 31/03/2017 9:54 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For the non-CD versions, here is a place that has pretty good
>> prices and
>>>>>> shipping should be faster:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.egauges.com/12-Volt-Radios-s/33233.htm
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For the CD versions, the above website is selling the wrong
>> version for US
>>>>>> market (it has the Euro equivalent of HD radio, won't work here)
>> so I got
>>>>>> the correct version (Continental CD7416UB_OR) from eBay Germany.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes 
Sure, with extra work / wiring.
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On March 31, 2017 4:57:32 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>So these will work with the 3 piece setup as used in 91-93?
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 31, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes
><mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Nothing but a hole. You'll need the Metra harness. I can look up the
>number for it if you need one, it's a standard DIN radio harness.
>> 
>> When I bought one for my 350SDL I bought the Metra harness and wired
>it up myself. Pretty easy and straightforward.
>> 
>> I may have another on the way from an R129 buddy who bought one and
>didn't like it. Not sure which car I'll put it in yet...
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2017, at 1:42 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes
><mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will it come with the plugs for the radio end at least so the
>pigtails could be spliced in, or would it come with nothing but the
>hole in the radio in which to insert the plug?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>>>  Original message From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes
><mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-03-31  12:00 PM  (GMT-06:00) To:
>Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Meade Dillon
><dillonm...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15 
>>> The harness should be the connectors / adapters to plug into the
>back of
>>> the radio and then into your car's existing wiring without any
>cutting and
>>> splicing.
>>> 
>>> Yes, that is steep.  I'll be that Crutchfield sells the separate
>components
>>> for about $25 each or so?
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What do they mean by "without harness"?
>>>> $50 seems a lot extra for a "harness".
>>>> 
>>>> RB
>>>> 
>>>>> On 31/03/2017 9:54 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the non-CD versions, here is a place that has pretty good
>prices and
>>>>> shipping should be faster:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.egauges.com/12-Volt-Radios-s/33233.htm
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the CD versions, the above website is selling the wrong
>version for US
>>>>> market (it has the Euro equivalent of HD radio, won't work here)
>so I got
>>>>> the correct version (Continental CD7416UB_OR) from eBay Germany.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -
>>>>> Max
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
So these will work with the 3 piece setup as used in 91-93?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Nothing but a hole. You'll need the Metra harness. I can look up the number 
> for it if you need one, it's a standard DIN radio harness.
> 
> When I bought one for my 350SDL I bought the Metra harness and wired it up 
> myself. Pretty easy and straightforward.
> 
> I may have another on the way from an R129 buddy who bought one and didn't 
> like it. Not sure which car I'll put it in yet...
> 
> -D
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2017, at 1:42 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Will it come with the plugs for the radio end at least so the pigtails could 
>> be spliced in, or would it come with nothing but the hole in the radio in 
>> which to insert the plug?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>>  Original message From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-03-31  12:00 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
>> Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Meade Dillon 
>> <dillonm...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15 
>> The harness should be the connectors / adapters to plug into the back of
>> the radio and then into your car's existing wiring without any cutting and
>> splicing.
>> 
>> Yes, that is steep.  I'll be that Crutchfield sells the separate components
>> for about $25 each or so?
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> What do they mean by "without harness"?
>>> $50 seems a lot extra for a "harness".
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
>>>> On 31/03/2017 9:54 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For the non-CD versions, here is a place that has pretty good prices and
>>>> shipping should be faster:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.egauges.com/12-Volt-Radios-s/33233.htm
>>>> 
>>>> For the CD versions, the above website is selling the wrong version for US
>>>> market (it has the Euro equivalent of HD radio, won't work here) so I got
>>>> the correct version (Continental CD7416UB_OR) from eBay Germany.
>>>> 
>>>> -
>>>> Max
>>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes 
The continental color is almost exact match for the Becker.
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On March 31, 2017 3:04:51 PM EDT, clay via Mercedes  
wrote:
>I am not that partial to blue or orange lighting.  I have a Becker 612
>on the way.  Nice to have back up plans
>
>
>> On Mar 31, 2017, at 4:16 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> I had one (TR7412UB-OR Continental Radio with USB and Bluetooth - 12
>Volt -
>> Orange LED) that went south and has been returned to the seller (a
>place in
>> Germany) for a warranty replacement, but now I'm getting crickets
>from them
>> by email.  I need to call them probably.
>>  
>
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes 

On 31/03/2017 12:49 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Nothing but a hole. You'll need the Metra harness. I can look up the number for 
it if you need one, it's a standard DIN radio harness.

When I bought one for my 350SDL I bought the Metra harness and wired it up 
myself. Pretty easy and straightforward.

I may have another on the way from an R129 buddy who bought one and didn't like 
it. Not sure which car I'll put it in yet...

-D


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectors_for_car_audio

Like what the above link describes as ISO 10487?

If so, I have some leftover harnesses from previous units but not from 
MB original radios. Aftermarket stuff from Clarion or Pioneer that I 
have had in trucks over the past 10-15 years.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread clay via Mercedes 
I am not that partial to blue or orange lighting.  I have a Becker 612 on the 
way.  Nice to have back up plans


> On Mar 31, 2017, at 4:16 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had one (TR7412UB-OR Continental Radio with USB and Bluetooth - 12 Volt -
> Orange LED) that went south and has been returned to the seller (a place in
> Germany) for a warranty replacement, but now I'm getting crickets from them
> by email.  I need to call them probably.
>  


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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes 
Nothing but a hole. You'll need the Metra harness. I can look up the number for 
it if you need one, it's a standard DIN radio harness.

When I bought one for my 350SDL I bought the Metra harness and wired it up 
myself. Pretty easy and straightforward.

I may have another on the way from an R129 buddy who bought one and didn't like 
it. Not sure which car I'll put it in yet...

-D

Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 31, 2017, at 1:42 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Will it come with the plugs for the radio end at least so the pigtails could 
> be spliced in, or would it come with nothing but the hole in the radio in 
> which to insert the plug?
> 
> 
> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-03-31  12:00 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
> Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Meade Dillon 
> <dillonm...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15 
> The harness should be the connectors / adapters to plug into the back of
> the radio and then into your car's existing wiring without any cutting and
> splicing.
> 
> Yes, that is steep.  I'll be that Crutchfield sells the separate components
> for about $25 each or so?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> What do they mean by "without harness"?
>> $50 seems a lot extra for a "harness".
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>>> On 31/03/2017 9:54 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> For the non-CD versions, here is a place that has pretty good prices and
>>> shipping should be faster:
>>> 
>>> http://www.egauges.com/12-Volt-Radios-s/33233.htm
>>> 
>>> For the CD versions, the above website is selling the wrong version for US
>>> market (it has the Euro equivalent of HD radio, won't work here) so I got
>>> the correct version (Continental CD7416UB_OR) from eBay Germany.
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes 
Will it come with the plugs for the radio end at least so the pigtails could be 
spliced in, or would it come with nothing but the hole in the radio in which to 
insert the plug?


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<mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-03-31  12:00 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Meade Dillon <dillonm...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15 
The harness should be the connectors / adapters to plug into the back of
the radio and then into your car's existing wiring without any cutting and
splicing.

Yes, that is steep.  I'll be that Crutchfield sells the separate components
for about $25 each or so?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What do they mean by "without harness"?
> $50 seems a lot extra for a "harness".
>
> RB
>
> On 31/03/2017 9:54 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> For the non-CD versions, here is a place that has pretty good prices and
>> shipping should be faster:
>>
>> http://www.egauges.com/12-Volt-Radios-s/33233.htm
>>
>> For the CD versions, the above website is selling the wrong version for US
>> market (it has the Euro equivalent of HD radio, won't work here) so I got
>> the correct version (Continental CD7416UB_OR) from eBay Germany.
>>
>> -
>> Max
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes 
It uses a standard DIN connector, like mid 90s and later MBs use. The  
alternative is a Metra harness for about $15.00.

-D

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> On Mar 31, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What do they mean by "without harness"?
> $50 seems a lot extra for a "harness".
> 
> RB
> 
>> On 31/03/2017 9:54 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> For the non-CD versions, here is a place that has pretty good prices and
>> shipping should be faster:
>> 
>> http://www.egauges.com/12-Volt-Radios-s/33233.htm
>> 
>> For the CD versions, the above website is selling the wrong version for US
>> market (it has the Euro equivalent of HD radio, won't work here) so I got
>> the correct version (Continental CD7416UB_OR) from eBay Germany.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
The harness should be the connectors / adapters to plug into the back of
the radio and then into your car's existing wiring without any cutting and
splicing.

Yes, that is steep.  I'll be that Crutchfield sells the separate components
for about $25 each or so?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What do they mean by "without harness"?
> $50 seems a lot extra for a "harness".
>
> RB
>
> On 31/03/2017 9:54 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> For the non-CD versions, here is a place that has pretty good prices and
>> shipping should be faster:
>>
>> http://www.egauges.com/12-Volt-Radios-s/33233.htm
>>
>> For the CD versions, the above website is selling the wrong version for US
>> market (it has the Euro equivalent of HD radio, won't work here) so I got
>> the correct version (Continental CD7416UB_OR) from eBay Germany.
>>
>> -
>> Max
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes 

What do they mean by "without harness"?
$50 seems a lot extra for a "harness".

RB

On 31/03/2017 9:54 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

For the non-CD versions, here is a place that has pretty good prices and
shipping should be faster:

http://www.egauges.com/12-Volt-Radios-s/33233.htm

For the CD versions, the above website is selling the wrong version for US
market (it has the Euro equivalent of HD radio, won't work here) so I got
the correct version (Continental CD7416UB_OR) from eBay Germany.

-
Max



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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
For the non-CD versions, here is a place that has pretty good prices and
shipping should be faster:

http://www.egauges.com/12-Volt-Radios-s/33233.htm

For the CD versions, the above website is selling the wrong version for US
market (it has the Euro equivalent of HD radio, won't work here) so I got
the correct version (Continental CD7416UB_OR) from eBay Germany.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Where do you get them? I really hate changing our factory radios for
> aftermarket
>
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes 
Try the link Max put in his message?

-D

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> On Mar 31, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Where do you get them? I really hate changing our factory radios for 
> aftermarket 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
Where do you get them? I really hate changing our factory radios for 
aftermarket 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2017, at 4:22 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Buy one of the Continental radios. They’re relatively cheap and have all the 
> modern appurtenances like bluetooth, USB MP3 capability, etc., and they look 
> nice and correct in our cars.  I’ve got one in the 350SDL and I love it.  Max 
> has one, too, I believe.
> 
> I’m going to get another one maybe for the 300SEL or the SL500.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2017, at 1:07 AM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Very good insight.  I looked on the Goog and World of Benz for a map.  Then 
>> I decided I would just remove the C151 from a  PnP car and make my own map.  
>> I did that over dinner (dissect) and will now make a color map (in the 
>> morning) so that I can repair my mistaken wire placement.  Figure I will 
>> take a photo and post it to the World of Benz for all to admire.  It will be 
>> rendered in Crayola.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 8:49 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> About the only thing I know for you to do would be to look at the two pages 
>>> of the schematic covering the gauges for the 126. Look at all the wires 
>>> going to the gauges labeled as C151. That's the round plug. On the other 
>>> side of the wire from the C151 is the number of the location in the plug. 
>>> The colors of the wire are next to the wire somewhere along the run of it.
>>> 
>>> clay via Mercedes wrote:
 I have been pulling my hair out for the past three weeks trying to figure 
 out just why in the world did my cabin lights and cluster not illuminate.  
 I test bulbs, swap out fixtures, bench test things and grow more perplexed.
 I pulled the cluster so that I could swap out the non functional 
 odometer/speedo unit and made sure all bulbs were good.  I was doing other 
 stuff and two days ago the cluster cable harness came apart.  Just a 
 little.  Enough that I ended up putting a few connectors in the wrong 
 place.  Now the charging light goes off when I release parking brake.  And 
 the brake pad sensor light is on.  I need to find a diagram on how to put 
 the situation right.  1982 SD.
 Either way, I was doing the multimeter probing/testing for how to wire in 
 the Becker this afternoon.  The switched power was working, but the 
 constant 12v just was not there.  Oh, and the hazards never worked.  
 Blinkers were fine, just no 4 ways.  I had five other hazard switches and 
 tried them all.  No flasher.  I pulled the hazard switch in Polei and 
 tested all the switches.  They worked fine.
 Most of you will have figured out what was going on by now.  For the slow 
 folks, like me, here goes.
 When I got the car I changed out the fuses, as per Marshall.  The old ones 
 were put in a baggie for testing and I installed the nice brass fuses that 
 were part of the large spare parts selection.  There were a few spots that 
 did not have fuses, and I had runout of new ones anyway.  In reading what 
 powers which so that I could install the radio, I looked over the fuse 
 list.  There were a few fuses that looked like they would be responsible 
 for some of the issues I had.   As part of the search as to why the 
 constant power was not behaving, I pop the hood and open the fuse box.  
 There are two missing fuses.  Yep, the two that make everything that was 
 not working, work as they should.
 Radio is in, it powers up and shows the four dashes.  It will need to 
 visit the dealer to have them use the magic key to unlock it.  I have not 
 found anything that would allow for the illumination wire or the 
 anti-theft.  Maybe the dealer will know what is needed.
 clay
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
I had one (TR7412UB-OR Continental Radio with USB and Bluetooth - 12 Volt -
Orange LED) that went south and has been returned to the seller (a place in
Germany) for a warranty replacement, but now I'm getting crickets from them
by email.  I need to call them probably.

The radio is dirt simple and very easy to use, with simple on-off, knob for
volume control, and radio stations that can be programmed to the buttons.
Most aftermarket radios are so cluttered with tiny buttons and flashing
screens that the driver cannot both drive and operate the radio at the same
time.  I find the bluetooth function to be the most useful, I connect my
smart phone via bluetooth and then I can answer calls through the radio and
there is a microphone included with the radio.  There is a mic on the front
of the radio that can be used OK, and there is a separate mic that can be
connected to the back and then you have to route the wire around and up the
A-piller or whatever to a location you like.

There's an Ebay store that sells them, and here's a place in Michigan that
sells them for pretty good prices:

http://www.egauges.com/12-Volt-Radios-s/33233.htm

I made my own harness using the radio-side from the harness in a late model
124, and the car-side from a Crutchfield adapter that Dan offered here on
the list.  Crutchfield would probably sell you both ends of the harness
adapter if you wanted to make it easy.

While waiting for that warranty replacement I bought this (Continental
CD7416UB_OR) which adds the CD player.  Plan is to put the CD version radio
into SWMBO's car when my warranty replacement radio comes back, if ever.


-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 5:22 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Buy one of the Continental radios. They’re relatively cheap and have all
> the modern appurtenances like bluetooth, USB MP3 capability, etc., and they
> look nice and correct in our cars.  I’ve got one in the 350SDL and I love
> it.  Max has one, too, I believe.
>
> I’m going to get another one maybe for the 300SEL or the SL500.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-31 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
Buy one of the Continental radios. They’re relatively cheap and have all the 
modern appurtenances like bluetooth, USB MP3 capability, etc., and they look 
nice and correct in our cars.  I’ve got one in the 350SDL and I love it.  Max 
has one, too, I believe.

I’m going to get another one maybe for the 300SEL or the SL500.

-D
 
> On Mar 31, 2017, at 1:07 AM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Very good insight.  I looked on the Goog and World of Benz for a map.  Then I 
> decided I would just remove the C151 from a  PnP car and make my own map.  I 
> did that over dinner (dissect) and will now make a color map (in the morning) 
> so that I can repair my mistaken wire placement.  Figure I will take a photo 
> and post it to the World of Benz for all to admire.  It will be rendered in 
> Crayola.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2017, at 8:49 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> About the only thing I know for you to do would be to look at the two pages 
>> of the schematic covering the gauges for the 126. Look at all the wires 
>> going to the gauges labeled as C151. That's the round plug. On the other 
>> side of the wire from the C151 is the number of the location in the plug. 
>> The colors of the wire are next to the wire somewhere along the run of it.
>> 
>> clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I have been pulling my hair out for the past three weeks trying to figure 
>>> out just why in the world did my cabin lights and cluster not illuminate.  
>>> I test bulbs, swap out fixtures, bench test things and grow more perplexed.
>>> I pulled the cluster so that I could swap out the non functional 
>>> odometer/speedo unit and made sure all bulbs were good.  I was doing other 
>>> stuff and two days ago the cluster cable harness came apart.  Just a 
>>> little.  Enough that I ended up putting a few connectors in the wrong 
>>> place.  Now the charging light goes off when I release parking brake.  And 
>>> the brake pad sensor light is on.  I need to find a diagram on how to put 
>>> the situation right.  1982 SD.
>>> Either way, I was doing the multimeter probing/testing for how to wire in 
>>> the Becker this afternoon.  The switched power was working, but the 
>>> constant 12v just was not there.  Oh, and the hazards never worked.  
>>> Blinkers were fine, just no 4 ways.  I had five other hazard switches and 
>>> tried them all.  No flasher.  I pulled the hazard switch in Polei and 
>>> tested all the switches.  They worked fine.
>>> Most of you will have figured out what was going on by now.  For the slow 
>>> folks, like me, here goes.
>>> When I got the car I changed out the fuses, as per Marshall.  The old ones 
>>> were put in a baggie for testing and I installed the nice brass fuses that 
>>> were part of the large spare parts selection.  There were a few spots that 
>>> did not have fuses, and I had runout of new ones anyway.  In reading what 
>>> powers which so that I could install the radio, I looked over the fuse 
>>> list.  There were a few fuses that looked like they would be responsible 
>>> for some of the issues I had.   As part of the search as to why the 
>>> constant power was not behaving, I pop the hood and open the fuse box.  
>>> There are two missing fuses.  Yep, the two that make everything that was 
>>> not working, work as they should.
>>> Radio is in, it powers up and shows the four dashes.  It will need to visit 
>>> the dealer to have them use the magic key to unlock it.  I have not found 
>>> anything that would allow for the illumination wire or the anti-theft.  
>>> Maybe the dealer will know what is needed.
>>> clay
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-30 Thread clay via Mercedes 
Very good insight.  I looked on the Goog and World of Benz for a map.  Then I 
decided I would just remove the C151 from a  PnP car and make my own map.  I 
did that over dinner (dissect) and will now make a color map (in the morning) 
so that I can repair my mistaken wire placement.  Figure I will take a photo 
and post it to the World of Benz for all to admire.  It will be rendered in 
Crayola.

clay


> On Mar 30, 2017, at 8:49 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> About the only thing I know for you to do would be to look at the two pages 
> of the schematic covering the gauges for the 126. Look at all the wires going 
> to the gauges labeled as C151. That's the round plug. On the other side of 
> the wire from the C151 is the number of the location in the plug. The colors 
> of the wire are next to the wire somewhere along the run of it.
> 
> clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have been pulling my hair out for the past three weeks trying to figure 
>> out just why in the world did my cabin lights and cluster not illuminate.  I 
>> test bulbs, swap out fixtures, bench test things and grow more perplexed.
>> I pulled the cluster so that I could swap out the non functional 
>> odometer/speedo unit and made sure all bulbs were good.  I was doing other 
>> stuff and two days ago the cluster cable harness came apart.  Just a little. 
>>  Enough that I ended up putting a few connectors in the wrong place.  Now 
>> the charging light goes off when I release parking brake.  And the brake pad 
>> sensor light is on.  I need to find a diagram on how to put the situation 
>> right.  1982 SD.
>> Either way, I was doing the multimeter probing/testing for how to wire in 
>> the Becker this afternoon.  The switched power was working, but the constant 
>> 12v just was not there.  Oh, and the hazards never worked.  Blinkers were 
>> fine, just no 4 ways.  I had five other hazard switches and tried them all.  
>> No flasher.  I pulled the hazard switch in Polei and tested all the 
>> switches.  They worked fine.
>> Most of you will have figured out what was going on by now.  For the slow 
>> folks, like me, here goes.
>> When I got the car I changed out the fuses, as per Marshall.  The old ones 
>> were put in a baggie for testing and I installed the nice brass fuses that 
>> were part of the large spare parts selection.  There were a few spots that 
>> did not have fuses, and I had runout of new ones anyway.  In reading what 
>> powers which so that I could install the radio, I looked over the fuse list. 
>>  There were a few fuses that looked like they would be responsible for some 
>> of the issues I had.   As part of the search as to why the constant power 
>> was not behaving, I pop the hood and open the fuse box.  There are two 
>> missing fuses.  Yep, the two that make everything that was not working, work 
>> as they should.
>> Radio is in, it powers up and shows the four dashes.  It will need to visit 
>> the dealer to have them use the magic key to unlock it.  I have not found 
>> anything that would allow for the illumination wire or the anti-theft.  
>> Maybe the dealer will know what is needed.
>> clay
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-30 Thread clay via Mercedes 
did the visit to dealer.  Used the magic key device.  After five attempts, we 
decided the thing is borked and will not unlock.  Tech told me to get a cheap 
aftermarket radio.

clay


> On Mar 29, 2017, at 8:57 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I have been pulling my hair out for the past three weeks trying to figure out 
> just why in the world did my cabin lights and cluster not illuminate.  I test 
> bulbs, swap out fixtures, bench test things and grow more perplexed.
> 
> I pulled the cluster so that I could swap out the non functional 
> odometer/speedo unit and made sure all bulbs were good.  I was doing other 
> stuff and two days ago the cluster cable harness came apart.  Just a little.  
> Enough that I ended up putting a few connectors in the wrong place.  Now the 
> charging light goes off when I release parking brake.  And the brake pad 
> sensor light is on.  I need to find a diagram on how to put the situation 
> right.  1982 SD.
> 
> Either way, I was doing the multimeter probing/testing for how to wire in the 
> Becker this afternoon.  The switched power was working, but the constant 12v 
> just was not there.  Oh, and the hazards never worked.  Blinkers were fine, 
> just no 4 ways.  I had five other hazard switches and tried them all.  No 
> flasher.  I pulled the hazard switch in Polei and tested all the switches.  
> They worked fine.
> 
> Most of you will have figured out what was going on by now.  For the slow 
> folks, like me, here goes.
> 
> When I got the car I changed out the fuses, as per Marshall.  The old ones 
> were put in a baggie for testing and I installed the nice brass fuses that 
> were part of the large spare parts selection.  There were a few spots that 
> did not have fuses, and I had runout of new ones anyway.  
> 
> In reading what powers which so that I could install the radio, I looked over 
> the fuse list.  There were a few fuses that looked like they would be 
> responsible for some of the issues I had.   As part of the search as to why 
> the constant power was not behaving, I pop the hood and open the fuse box.  
> There are two missing fuses.  Yep, the two that make everything that was not 
> working, work as they should.
> 
> Radio is in, it powers up and shows the four dashes.  It will need to visit 
> the dealer to have them use the magic key to unlock it.  I have not found 
> anything that would allow for the illumination wire or the anti-theft.  Maybe 
> the dealer will know what is needed.
> 
> clay
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Re: [MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-30 Thread MG via Mercedes 
About the only thing I know for you to do would be to look at the 
two pages of the schematic covering the gauges for the 126. Look 
at all the wires going to the gauges labeled as C151. That's the 
round plug. On the other side of the wire from the C151 is the 
number of the location in the plug. The colors of the wire are 
next to the wire somewhere along the run of it.


clay via Mercedes wrote:

I have been pulling my hair out for the past three weeks trying to figure out 
just why in the world did my cabin lights and cluster not illuminate.  I test 
bulbs, swap out fixtures, bench test things and grow more perplexed.

I pulled the cluster so that I could swap out the non functional 
odometer/speedo unit and made sure all bulbs were good.  I was doing other 
stuff and two days ago the cluster cable harness came apart.  Just a little.  
Enough that I ended up putting a few connectors in the wrong place.  Now the 
charging light goes off when I release parking brake.  And the brake pad sensor 
light is on.  I need to find a diagram on how to put the situation right.  1982 
SD.

Either way, I was doing the multimeter probing/testing for how to wire in the 
Becker this afternoon.  The switched power was working, but the constant 12v 
just was not there.  Oh, and the hazards never worked.  Blinkers were fine, 
just no 4 ways.  I had five other hazard switches and tried them all.  No 
flasher.  I pulled the hazard switch in Polei and tested all the switches.  
They worked fine.

Most of you will have figured out what was going on by now.  For the slow 
folks, like me, here goes.

When I got the car I changed out the fuses, as per Marshall.  The old ones were put in a baggie for testing and I installed the nice brass fuses that were part of the large spare parts selection.  There were a few spots that did not have fuses, and I had runout of new ones anyway.  


In reading what powers which so that I could install the radio, I looked over 
the fuse list.  There were a few fuses that looked like they would be 
responsible for some of the issues I had.   As part of the search as to why the 
constant power was not behaving, I pop the hood and open the fuse box.  There 
are two missing fuses.  Yep, the two that make everything that was not working, 
work as they should.

Radio is in, it powers up and shows the four dashes.  It will need to visit the 
dealer to have them use the magic key to unlock it.  I have not found anything 
that would allow for the illumination wire or the anti-theft.  Maybe the dealer 
will know what is needed.

clay
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[MBZ] 13 and 15

2017-03-29 Thread clay via Mercedes 
I have been pulling my hair out for the past three weeks trying to figure out 
just why in the world did my cabin lights and cluster not illuminate.  I test 
bulbs, swap out fixtures, bench test things and grow more perplexed.

I pulled the cluster so that I could swap out the non functional 
odometer/speedo unit and made sure all bulbs were good.  I was doing other 
stuff and two days ago the cluster cable harness came apart.  Just a little.  
Enough that I ended up putting a few connectors in the wrong place.  Now the 
charging light goes off when I release parking brake.  And the brake pad sensor 
light is on.  I need to find a diagram on how to put the situation right.  1982 
SD.

Either way, I was doing the multimeter probing/testing for how to wire in the 
Becker this afternoon.  The switched power was working, but the constant 12v 
just was not there.  Oh, and the hazards never worked.  Blinkers were fine, 
just no 4 ways.  I had five other hazard switches and tried them all.  No 
flasher.  I pulled the hazard switch in Polei and tested all the switches.  
They worked fine.

Most of you will have figured out what was going on by now.  For the slow 
folks, like me, here goes.

When I got the car I changed out the fuses, as per Marshall.  The old ones were 
put in a baggie for testing and I installed the nice brass fuses that were part 
of the large spare parts selection.  There were a few spots that did not have 
fuses, and I had runout of new ones anyway.  

In reading what powers which so that I could install the radio, I looked over 
the fuse list.  There were a few fuses that looked like they would be 
responsible for some of the issues I had.   As part of the search as to why the 
constant power was not behaving, I pop the hood and open the fuse box.  There 
are two missing fuses.  Yep, the two that make everything that was not working, 
work as they should.

Radio is in, it powers up and shows the four dashes.  It will need to visit the 
dealer to have them use the magic key to unlock it.  I have not found anything 
that would allow for the illumination wire or the anti-theft.  Maybe the dealer 
will know what is needed.

clay
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