Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Maybe it was the type of smoke in a Cheech and Chong movie?

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 12:38 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> When I lived in Houston and drove the 79 TD a lot I got a warning letter
> in the mail, some do goody had reported the car for “excessive smoke”. Uhh
> yeah…
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Feb 8, 2024, at 6:05 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > AZ did the same thing. The nub on the crew would be standing at the
> rear of the car holding the opacity meter in the exhaust stream. We’d have
> to do it three times and it would average the readings. Every one of my
> diesels always passed with wicked low numbers.
> > When I would take in the Cummins I would have to sit with it in park and
> rev it up and hold it at 3K rpm until the dude dropped his hand….do that
> three times.
> >
> > AZBob
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Feb 8, 2024, at 3:45 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> In FL they used to dyno test diesels with a particulate tester. I had
> my 82 300SD at the time, among other diesels, and before I tested I would
> do a proverbial Southern European peninsula tune-up.
> >>
> >> Scary, though - you’re on this dyno, the car isn’t anchored in any way,
> and there's this computer screen off to the side giving you the speed
> you’re supposed to be running at. 60 mph while stationary is a scary
> feeling.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>>> On Feb 8, 2024, at 12:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hmm, interesting, MA has the same rule about 15 years.
> >>>
> >>> It was fun, back when I was driving diesel MB's to see the inspection
> guy pull out the OBDII cable and look for a port. I'd say "yeah there isn't
> a computer" but it was apparently really important that he at least TRY to
> plug in the computer...
> >>>
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:31:14 PM EST, Robert Rentfro via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Come to think of it, I now remember never having to take my 1962
> Falcon to get tested when I was driving that to the old nuke plant 135
> miles RT a day back in the day.
> >>>
> >>> Such a simpler life.
> >>>
> >>> AZBob
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Mail for Windows
> >>>
> >>> From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes
> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:27 AM
> >>> To: Okie Benz
> >>> Cc: dan penoff.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, most states with the exception of maybe the PRK have age
> exemptions. Florida was like this when they tested, too. That stopped
> around 2000, as I recall.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 8, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> “First, cars built prior to 1967 are exempt from emissions testing
> altogether. Second, Arizona offers an emissions exemption for “Collectible
> Vehicles.” The Collectible Vehicle exemption is available for rare or
> limited production vehicles, or cars that are more than 15 years old.”
> >>>
> >>> Guess that answers my question.
> >>>
> >>> AZBob
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows
> >>>
> >>> From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:17 AM
> >>> To: Okie Benz<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>> Cc: dan penoff.com<mailto:d...@penoff.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC
> >>>
> >>> Age exemption? I guess if it gets inspected by the sniffer folks,
> they’ll look for cats and see that they’re missing. Hmm.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 8, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/mesa-1976-mercedes-benz-450slc/7715417865.html
> >>> Sent from Mail<https://go.micr

Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

When I lived in Houston and drove the 79 TD a lot I got a warning letter in the 
mail, some do goody had reported the car for “excessive smoke”. Uhh yeah…

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Feb 8, 2024, at 6:05 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> AZ did the same thing. The nub on the crew would be standing at the rear of 
> the car holding the opacity meter in the exhaust stream. We’d have to do it 
> three times and it would average the readings. Every one of my diesels always 
> passed with wicked low numbers.
> When I would take in the Cummins I would have to sit with it in park and rev 
> it up and hold it at 3K rpm until the dude dropped his hand….do that three 
> times.
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2024, at 3:45 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> In FL they used to dyno test diesels with a particulate tester. I had my 82 
>> 300SD at the time, among other diesels, and before I tested I would do a 
>> proverbial Southern European peninsula tune-up.
>> 
>> Scary, though - you’re on this dyno, the car isn’t anchored in any way, and 
>> there's this computer screen off to the side giving you the speed you’re 
>> supposed to be running at. 60 mph while stationary is a scary feeling.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On Feb 8, 2024, at 12:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm, interesting, MA has the same rule about 15 years.
>>> 
>>> It was fun, back when I was driving diesel MB's to see the inspection guy 
>>> pull out the OBDII cable and look for a port. I'd say "yeah there isn't a 
>>> computer" but it was apparently really important that he at least TRY to 
>>> plug in the computer...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:31:14 PM EST, Robert Rentfro via 
>>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Come to think of it, I now remember never having to take my 1962 Falcon to 
>>> get tested when I was driving that to the old nuke plant 135 miles RT a day 
>>> back in the day.
>>> 
>>> Such a simpler life.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>>> 
>>> From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:27 AM
>>> To: Okie Benz
>>> Cc: dan penoff.com
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC
>>> 
>>> Yeah, most states with the exception of maybe the PRK have age exemptions. 
>>> Florida was like this when they tested, too. That stopped around 2000, as I 
>>> recall.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 8, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> “First, cars built prior to 1967 are exempt from emissions testing 
>>> altogether. Second, Arizona offers an emissions exemption for “Collectible 
>>> Vehicles.” The Collectible Vehicle exemption is available for rare or 
>>> limited production vehicles, or cars that are more than 15 years old.”
>>> 
>>> Guess that answers my question.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>>> 
>>> From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:17 AM
>>> To: Okie Benz<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Cc: dan penoff.com<mailto:d...@penoff.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC
>>> 
>>> Age exemption? I guess if it gets inspected by the sniffer folks, they’ll 
>>> look for cats and see that they’re missing. Hmm.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 8, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/mesa-1976-mercedes-benz-450slc/7715417865.html
>>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>>> 
>>> Just when I said these seem scarce…
>>> 
>>> How does this pass emmissions without cats?
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

AZ did the same thing. The nub on the crew would be standing at the rear of the 
car holding the opacity meter in the exhaust stream. We’d have to do it three 
times and it would average the readings. Every one of my diesels always passed 
with wicked low numbers. 
When I would take in the Cummins I would have to sit with it in park and rev it 
up and hold it at 3K rpm until the dude dropped his hand….do that three times. 

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2024, at 3:45 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In FL they used to dyno test diesels with a particulate tester. I had my 82 
> 300SD at the time, among other diesels, and before I tested I would do a 
> proverbial Southern European peninsula tune-up.
> 
> Scary, though - you’re on this dyno, the car isn’t anchored in any way, and 
> there's this computer screen off to the side giving you the speed you’re 
> supposed to be running at. 60 mph while stationary is a scary feeling.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2024, at 12:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmm, interesting, MA has the same rule about 15 years.
>> 
>> It was fun, back when I was driving diesel MB's to see the inspection guy 
>> pull out the OBDII cable and look for a port. I'd say "yeah there isn't a 
>> computer" but it was apparently really important that he at least TRY to 
>> plug in the computer...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:31:14 PM EST, Robert Rentfro via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Come to think of it, I now remember never having to take my 1962 Falcon to 
>> get tested when I was driving that to the old nuke plant 135 miles RT a day 
>> back in the day.
>> 
>> Such a simpler life.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows
>> 
>> From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes
>> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:27 AM
>> To: Okie Benz
>> Cc: dan penoff.com
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC
>> 
>> Yeah, most states with the exception of maybe the PRK have age exemptions. 
>> Florida was like this when they tested, too. That stopped around 2000, as I 
>> recall.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Feb 8, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> “First, cars built prior to 1967 are exempt from emissions testing 
>> altogether. Second, Arizona offers an emissions exemption for “Collectible 
>> Vehicles.” The Collectible Vehicle exemption is available for rare or 
>> limited production vehicles, or cars that are more than 15 years old.”
>> 
>> Guess that answers my question.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>> 
>> From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:17 AM
>> To: Okie Benz<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> Cc: dan penoff.com<mailto:d...@penoff.com>
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC
>> 
>> Age exemption? I guess if it gets inspected by the sniffer folks, they’ll 
>> look for cats and see that they’re missing. Hmm.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Feb 8, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/mesa-1976-mercedes-benz-450slc/7715417865.html
>> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>> 
>> Just when I said these seem scarce…
>> 
>> How does this pass emmissions without cats?
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

In FL they used to dyno test diesels with a particulate tester. I had my 82 
300SD at the time, among other diesels, and before I tested I would do a 
proverbial Southern European peninsula tune-up.

Scary, though - you’re on this dyno, the car isn’t anchored in any way, and 
there's this computer screen off to the side giving you the speed you’re 
supposed to be running at. 60 mph while stationary is a scary feeling.

-D

> On Feb 8, 2024, at 12:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hmm, interesting, MA has the same rule about 15 years.
> 
> It was fun, back when I was driving diesel MB's to see the inspection guy 
> pull out the OBDII cable and look for a port. I'd say "yeah there isn't a 
> computer" but it was apparently really important that he at least TRY to plug 
> in the computer...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:31:14 PM EST, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Come to think of it, I now remember never having to take my 1962 Falcon to 
> get tested when I was driving that to the old nuke plant 135 miles RT a day 
> back in the day. 
>  
> Such a simpler life.
>  
> AZBob
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows
>  
> From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:27 AM
> To: Okie Benz
> Cc: dan penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC
>  
> Yeah, most states with the exception of maybe the PRK have age exemptions. 
> Florida was like this when they tested, too. That stopped around 2000, as I 
> recall.
>  
> -D
>  
> On Feb 8, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>  
> “First, cars built prior to 1967 are exempt from emissions testing 
> altogether. Second, Arizona offers an emissions exemption for “Collectible 
> Vehicles.” The Collectible Vehicle exemption is available for rare or limited 
> production vehicles, or cars that are more than 15 years old.”
>  
> Guess that answers my question.
>  
> AZBob
>  
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>  
> From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:17 AM
> To: Okie Benz<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: dan penoff.com<mailto:d...@penoff.com>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC
>  
> Age exemption? I guess if it gets inspected by the sniffer folks, they’ll 
> look for cats and see that they’re missing. Hmm.
>  
> -D
>  
> On Feb 8, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>  
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/mesa-1976-mercedes-benz-450slc/7715417865.html
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
>  
> Just when I said these seem scarce…
>  
> How does this pass emmissions without cats?
>  
> AZBob
>  
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Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

BUT, have you ever known the greenie weenies to care about common sense 
and practical gain?


Randy


On 08/02/2024 11:32 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

It makes sense. There are not enough of these cars on the road for their 
emissions to make any difference. Saves the state and the owners time and money 
that would otherwise be spent for no practical gain.


On Thu, Feb 8, 2024, at 12:20, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

“First, cars built prior to 1967 are exempt from emissions testing altogether. 
Second, Arizona offers an emissions exemption for “Collectible Vehicles.” The 
Collectible Vehicle exemption is available for rare or limited production 
vehicles, or cars that are more than 15 years old.”
  
Guess that answers my question.
  
AZBob
  
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Age exemption? I guess if it gets inspected by the sniffer folks, they’ll look for cats and see that they’re missing. Hmm.
  
-D
  
On Feb 8, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote:
  
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/mesa-1976-mercedes-benz-450slc/7715417865.html

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Just when I said these seem scarce…
  
How does this pass emmissions without cats?
  
AZBob
  



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Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Hmm, interesting, MA has the same rule about 15 years.

It was fun, back when I was driving diesel MB's to see the inspection guy pull 
out the OBDII cable and look for a port. I'd say "yeah there isn't a computer" 
but it was apparently really important that he at least TRY to plug in the 
computer...

-Curt


On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 12:31:14 PM EST, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote: 






Come to think of it, I now remember never having to take my 1962 Falcon to get 
tested when I was driving that to the old nuke plant 135 miles RT a day back in 
the day. 
 
Such a simpler life.
 
AZBob
 
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From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:27 AM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: dan penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC
 
Yeah, most states with the exception of maybe the PRK have age exemptions. 
Florida was like this when they tested, too. That stopped around 2000, as I 
recall.
 
-D
 
On Feb 8, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:
 
“First, cars built prior to 1967 are exempt from emissions testing altogether. 
Second, Arizona offers an emissions exemption for “Collectible Vehicles.” The 
Collectible Vehicle exemption is available for rare or limited production 
vehicles, or cars that are more than 15 years old.”
 
Guess that answers my question.
 
AZBob
 
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From: dan penoff.com via Mercedes<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:17 AM
To: Okie Benz<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: dan penoff.com<mailto:d...@penoff.com>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC
 
Age exemption? I guess if it gets inspected by the sniffer folks, they’ll look 
for cats and see that they’re missing. Hmm.
 
-D
 
On Feb 8, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/mesa-1976-mercedes-benz-450slc/7715417865.html
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Just when I said these seem scarce…
 
How does this pass emmissions without cats?
 
AZBob
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

That was mine exactly, minus the clear plastic seat covers. AM tube radio, vacuum wipers, yes it was spartan but ran like mad. In the early-mid ‘80s when I drove that to work, my drive was still through irrigated orange groves, cotton fields, and alfalfa fields so even driving into work on a night shift in the summer there would always be a 15 to 20 degree delta T from ambient so it wasn’t totally unbearable. AZBob   Sent from Mail for Windows From: dan penoff.com via MercedesSent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:40 AMTo: Okie BenzCc: dan penoff.comSubject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC Did it have a ginormous steering wheel? I just think of the early 60s “Ford” my employer had when I was in tech school. Belonged to his mother, who had passed a while ago. Sat in the lot under cover, used to run parts occasionally. Still had the clear plastic seat covers she had installed when it was new. HUGE steering wheel, no PS. AM radio, heater, that was it. A true “stripper.” 170 CI inline six, three on the tree. You can’t get much more analog than that car. It was fun to drive. -D On Feb 8, 2024, at 10:30 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote: Come to think of it, I now remember never having to take my 1962 Falcon to get tested when I was driving that to the old nuke plant 135 miles RT a day back in the day. Such a simpler life. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: dan penoff.com via MercedesSent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:27 AMTo: Okie BenzCc: dan penoff.comSubject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC Yeah, most states with the exception of maybe the PRK have age exemptions. Florida was like this when they tested, too. That stopped around 2000, as I recall. -D On Feb 8, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: “First, cars built prior to 1967 are exempt from emissions testing altogether. Second, Arizona offers an emissions exemption for “Collectible Vehicles.” The Collectible Vehicle exemption is available for rare or limited production vehicles, or cars that are more than 15 years old.” Guess that answers my question. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: dan penoff.com via MercedesSent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:17 AMTo: Okie BenzCc: dan penoff.comSubject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC Age exemption? I guess if it gets inspected by the sniffer folks, they’ll look for cats and see that they’re missing. Hmm. -D On Feb 8, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/mesa-1976-mercedes-benz-450slc/7715417865.htmlSent from Mail for Windows Just when I said these seem scarce… How does this pass emmissions without cats? AZBob ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  

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Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Did it have a ginormous steering wheel? I just think of the early 60s “Ford” my 
employer had when I was in tech school. Belonged to his mother, who had passed 
a while ago. Sat in the lot under cover, used to run parts occasionally. Still 
had the clear plastic seat covers she had installed when it was new. HUGE 
steering wheel, no PS. AM radio, heater, that was it. A true “stripper.” 170 CI 
inline six, three on the tree.

You can’t get much more analog than that car. It was fun to drive.

-D

On Feb 8, 2024, at 10:30 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Come to think of it, I now remember never having to take my 1962 Falcon to get 
tested when I was driving that to the old nuke plant 135 miles RT a day back in 
the day.

Such a simpler life.

AZBob

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Yeah, most states with the exception of maybe the PRK have age exemptions. 
Florida was like this when they tested, too. That stopped around 2000, as I 
recall.

-D

On Feb 8, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
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“First, cars built prior to 1967 are exempt from emissions testing altogether. 
Second, Arizona offers an emissions exemption for “Collectible Vehicles.” The 
Collectible Vehicle exemption is available for rare or limited production 
vehicles, or cars that are more than 15 years old.”

Guess that answers my question.

AZBob

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Age exemption? I guess if it gets inspected by the sniffer folks, they’ll look 
for cats and see that they’re missing. Hmm.

-D

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https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/mesa-1976-mercedes-benz-450slc/7715417865.html
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Just when I said these seem scarce…

How does this pass emmissions without cats?

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

It makes sense. There are not enough of these cars on the road for their 
emissions to make any difference. Saves the state and the owners time and money 
that would otherwise be spent for no practical gain.


On Thu, Feb 8, 2024, at 12:20, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> “First, cars built prior to 1967 are exempt from emissions testing 
> altogether. Second, Arizona offers an emissions exemption for “Collectible 
> Vehicles.” The Collectible Vehicle exemption is available for rare or limited 
> production vehicles, or cars that are more than 15 years old.”
>  
> Guess that answers my question.
>  
> AZBob
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> 
>  
> Age exemption? I guess if it gets inspected by the sniffer folks, they’ll 
> look for cats and see that they’re missing. Hmm.
>  
> -D
>  
> On Feb 8, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>  
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/mesa-1976-mercedes-benz-450slc/7715417865.html
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> Just when I said these seem scarce…
>  
> How does this pass emmissions without cats?
>  
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Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

Come to think of it, I now remember never having to take my 1962 Falcon to get tested when I was driving that to the old nuke plant 135 miles RT a day back in the day.  Such a simpler life. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: dan penoff.com via MercedesSent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:27 AMTo: Okie BenzCc: dan penoff.comSubject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC Yeah, most states with the exception of maybe the PRK have age exemptions. Florida was like this when they tested, too. That stopped around 2000, as I recall. -D On Feb 8, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote: “First, cars built prior to 1967 are exempt from emissions testing altogether. Second, Arizona offers an emissions exemption for “Collectible Vehicles.” The Collectible Vehicle exemption is available for rare or limited production vehicles, or cars that are more than 15 years old.” Guess that answers my question. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: dan penoff.com via MercedesSent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:17 AMTo: Okie BenzCc: dan penoff.comSubject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC Age exemption? I guess if it gets inspected by the sniffer folks, they’ll look for cats and see that they’re missing. Hmm. -D On Feb 8, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/mesa-1976-mercedes-benz-450slc/7715417865.htmlSent from Mail for Windows Just when I said these seem scarce… How does this pass emmissions without cats? AZBob ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  

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Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Yeah, most states with the exception of maybe the PRK have age exemptions. 
Florida was like this when they tested, too. That stopped around 2000, as I 
recall.

-D

On Feb 8, 2024, at 10:20 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:

“First, cars built prior to 1967 are exempt from emissions testing altogether. 
Second, Arizona offers an emissions exemption for “Collectible Vehicles.” The 
Collectible Vehicle exemption is available for rare or limited production 
vehicles, or cars that are more than 15 years old.”

Guess that answers my question.

AZBob

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Age exemption? I guess if it gets inspected by the sniffer folks, they’ll look 
for cats and see that they’re missing. Hmm.

-D

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Just when I said these seem scarce…

How does this pass emmissions without cats?

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Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

“First, cars built prior to 1967 are exempt from emissions testing altogether. Second, Arizona offers an emissions exemption for “Collectible Vehicles.” The Collectible Vehicle exemption is available for rare or limited production vehicles, or cars that are more than 15 years old.” Guess that answers my question. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: dan penoff.com via MercedesSent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:17 AMTo: Okie BenzCc: dan penoff.comSubject: Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC Age exemption? I guess if it gets inspected by the sniffer folks, they’ll look for cats and see that they’re missing. Hmm. -D On Feb 8, 2024, at 9:48 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes  wrote: https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/mesa-1976-mercedes-benz-450slc/7715417865.htmlSent from Mail for Windows Just when I said these seem scarce… How does this pass emmissions without cats? AZBob ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  

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Re: [MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Age exemption? I guess if it gets inspected by the sniffer folks, they’ll look 
for cats and see that they’re missing. Hmm.

-D

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How does this pass emmissions without cats?

AZBob

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[MBZ] 1976 Mercedes Benz 450SLC

[Robert Rentfro via Mercedes]

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