Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 diesel wagon
They are great cars as long as you don't plan on getting anywhere via the interstate. The non turbos have a lower gearing and less noise dampening. Its quite loud at 65mph and tops out around 90. Beware a faulty SLS system, you can dump some serious money in there. Donald Snook wrote: I found an ad for a 1980 123 wagon. The seller listed it as a 300TD. But, does a 1980 wagon have a turbo? I thought the early ones were NA. Whether it is NA or turbo, what sort of mileage with these get? The price seems too low, so it might be a turd. According to the seller it only has 200K miles. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 diesel wagon
The 83 240d is more heavily sound proofed I believe as well. I am just relaying my experience with my 80 300TD and why I bought my wife and 84 300TD. -Rolf Curt Raymond wrote: I commuted 85 miles round trip for 2 years in an '83 240D and then a year at 90 miles round trip. The 240D only has a top speed of like 86mph. Who cares, how much of the car's life is spent going that fast? I have no idea the top speed of my 190D. I took it to around 90mph once, that was plenty. nbsp; The TDs are all great cruising cars, the SLS makes them very comfortable to ride in. nbsp; -Curt nbsp; Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:11:24 -0400 From: Rolf lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 diesel wagon To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Message-ID: lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed They are great cars as long as you don't plan on getting anywhere via the interstate. The non turbos have a lower gearing and less noise dampening. Its quite loud at 65mph and tops out around 90. Beware a faulty SLS system, you can dump some serious money in there. Donald Snook wrote: gt; I found an ad for a 1980 123 wagon.nbsp; The seller listed it as a 300TD.nbsp; But, does a 1980 wagon have a turbo?nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;I thought the early ones were NA.nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;Whether it is NA or turbo, what sort of mileage with these get? gt;nbsp; The price seems too low, so it might be a turd.nbsp; According to the seller it only has 200K miles. gt; gt; Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 diesel wagon
I commuted 85 miles round trip for 2 years in an '83 240D and then a year at 90 miles round trip. The 240D only has a top speed of like 86mph. Who cares, how much of the car's life is spent going that fast? I have no idea the top speed of my 190D. I took it to around 90mph once, that was plenty. nbsp; The TDs are all great cruising cars, the SLS makes them very comfortable to ride in. nbsp; -Curt nbsp; Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:11:24 -0400 From: Rolf lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 diesel wagon To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Message-ID: lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed They are great cars as long as you don't plan on getting anywhere via the interstate. The non turbos have a lower gearing and less noise dampening. Its quite loud at 65mph and tops out around 90. Beware a faulty SLS system, you can dump some serious money in there. Donald Snook wrote: gt; I found an ad for a 1980 123 wagon.nbsp; The seller listed it as a 300TD.nbsp; But, does a 1980 wagon have a turbo?nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;I thought the early ones were NA.nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;Whether it is NA or turbo, what sort of mileage with these get? gt;nbsp; The price seems too low, so it might be a turd.nbsp; According to the seller it only has 200K miles. gt; gt; Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 diesel wagon
My first MB was an 80 diesel wagon. While it was a slug performance-wise, it was an extremely reliable car and cheap/easy to maintain. As for the SLS system, unless it's already boogered up, you should be fine. More likely than not, it probably needs new spheres, which aren't expensive in the long run, considering the difference they make in the suspension. Dan --- Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are great cars as long as you don't plan on getting anywhere via the interstate. The non turbos have a lower gearing and less noise dampening. Its quite loud at 65mph and tops out around 90. Beware a faulty SLS system, you can dump some serious money in there. Donald Snook wrote: I found an ad for a 1980 123 wagon. The seller listed it as a 300TD. But, does a 1980 wagon have a turbo? I thought the early ones were NA. Whether it is NA or turbo, what sort of mileage with these get? The price seems too low, so it might be a turd. According to the seller it only has 200K miles. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 diesel wagon
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found an ad for a 1980 123 wagon. The seller listed it as a 300TD. But, does a 1980 wagon have a turbo? I thought the early ones were NA. It's normally aspirated. TD = Touring Diesel. If it were a turbo the accepted nomenclature would be 300TDT, though you'll never actually see that on the back of a Benz. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1980 300 diesel wagon
I found an ad for a 1980 123 wagon. The seller listed it as a 300TD. But, does a 1980 wagon have a turbo? I thought the early ones were NA. Whether it is NA or turbo, what sort of mileage with these get? The price seems too low, so it might be a turd. According to the seller it only has 200K miles. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 diesel wagon
If its a turbo or not has nothing to do with it being a 300TD, all wagons are TD's. And yes, a 80 is NA Donald Snook wrote: I found an ad for a 1980 123 wagon. The seller listed it as a 300TD. But, does a 1980 wagon have a turbo? I thought the early ones were NA. Whether it is NA or turbo, what sort of mileage with these get? The price seems too low, so it might be a turd. According to the seller it only has 200K miles. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 diesel wagon
My understanding is that the T stands for Transport/Tourism while of course the D equates to a diesel engine. Kaleb is exactly correct - the initials TD, correctly used, always means a station/estate wagon. It is not uncommon however to find those that think, somewhat logically, that TD would mean Turbo Diesel. Dave H... Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 18:25:48 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 300 diesel wagon If its a turbo or not has nothing to do with it being a 300TD, all wagons are TD's. And yes, a 80 is NA http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
