Re: [MBZ] 2000 CLK320 - 102k miles - $4,000
The DAS can read some of the top stuff, but not much - it’s pretty much a black box for the most part. BBA Reman can rebuild and repair them, although it’s not cheap. I think I paid $350 some years back for mine to get repaired when it was throwing a fault I couldn’t clear. I was able to determine there was a fault in the controller, but what that fault was could not be revealed in DAS. Some research suggested that the accelerometer that’s in the controller was bad. This is critical for the operation of the roll bar, so if it fails the roll bar won’t deploy in a rollover. In pre-facelift models this is controlled by microswitches on the the rear suspension, but in facelift models that job was taken over by an accelerometer that’s inside of the top controller. It acted up again a few years later, but since they have a lifetime warranty I just sent it back and they repaired it for free. I marked it so I knew if they replaced or just repaired it, and I got my controller back. -D > On Jun 29, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > I know, but I doubt if there is much difference in the electronics, maybe > some other newer version, but I am guessing they are just as temperamental. > On the 129 the top controller stuff is some sort of black art to try to scan > and reset too, that might have improved with this model although if it is > like my 99E320 the HHTWIN is problematic in trying to dig into it too but it > might be the software and the implementation on this thing I bought. Did you > ever do that on your SL500 when you did the hydraulics and how did that go? > > In any case if the fuse and switch are not bad or need cleaning, could be a > PITA to chase it all down. I don't know if the iCarsoft could read the top > stuff or not, it is hit or miss sometimes on the 210, so DAS/HHTWIN would be > needed if not, and even if that would work I don't know. I guess it wouldn't > hurt to try to scan it, and then use any (non-) results to beat on the guy if > someone wanted to do that to try to get a deal on the car and deal with it. > > --FT > > On 6/29/21 2:56 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> If it’s a CLK it’s not an R129. That being said, I know nothing about the >> top controllers on these and if they are any better or different from the >> R129s. >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> the controllers can fry and they are spendy, all kinds of horror stories >>> with the R129s about jump starting them and frying the controller >>> >>> My guess is the fuse if it has been sitting. I'd check the battery voltage >>> and fuse first, ask if he tried to jumpstart it after sitting and buggered >>> it up that way. these top controllers and all that stuff are very >>> problematic even if the hydraulics are working. Might also need fluid but >>> that is easy. I don't understand that business about the switches, but >>> they could be buggered too and need a good cleaning. >>> >>> I'd offer $2k as it sits as the car looks nice, with the expectation that >>> the fix COULD be pricey and buying it could be an expensive risk, and if he >>> wants to keep messing with it to sell it then fine, here's my offer. Maybe >>> some other fool would go more. >>> >>> Plus apparently his phone will drain out the pics if he turns it sideways >>> to get the whole car in the pic, so he's an idiot anyway. >>> >>> --FT >>> >>> On 6/29/21 2:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Obviously anything's possible on a 20 year old car, but are the power top motors/controllers a weak point on these? Allan On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, at 2:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > $2k then. If the motor or controller is shot that’s big money. > > Did he CHECK YOUR FUSES??? > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Jun 29, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> "when i parked car for winter piwer top worked fine when i got back out >> for summer no longer works" >> >> https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/west-alexandria-2000-mercedes-benz/7343527854.html >> >> Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> -- >>> --FT >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change
Re: [MBZ] 2000 CLK320 - 102k miles - $4,000
I know, but I doubt if there is much difference in the electronics, maybe some other newer version, but I am guessing they are just as temperamental. On the 129 the top controller stuff is some sort of black art to try to scan and reset too, that might have improved with this model although if it is like my 99E320 the HHTWIN is problematic in trying to dig into it too but it might be the software and the implementation on this thing I bought. Did you ever do that on your SL500 when you did the hydraulics and how did that go? In any case if the fuse and switch are not bad or need cleaning, could be a PITA to chase it all down. I don't know if the iCarsoft could read the top stuff or not, it is hit or miss sometimes on the 210, so DAS/HHTWIN would be needed if not, and even if that would work I don't know. I guess it wouldn't hurt to try to scan it, and then use any (non-) results to beat on the guy if someone wanted to do that to try to get a deal on the car and deal with it. --FT On 6/29/21 2:56 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: If it’s a CLK it’s not an R129. That being said, I know nothing about the top controllers on these and if they are any better or different from the R129s. -D On Jun 29, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: the controllers can fry and they are spendy, all kinds of horror stories with the R129s about jump starting them and frying the controller My guess is the fuse if it has been sitting. I'd check the battery voltage and fuse first, ask if he tried to jumpstart it after sitting and buggered it up that way. these top controllers and all that stuff are very problematic even if the hydraulics are working. Might also need fluid but that is easy. I don't understand that business about the switches, but they could be buggered too and need a good cleaning. I'd offer $2k as it sits as the car looks nice, with the expectation that the fix COULD be pricey and buying it could be an expensive risk, and if he wants to keep messing with it to sell it then fine, here's my offer. Maybe some other fool would go more. Plus apparently his phone will drain out the pics if he turns it sideways to get the whole car in the pic, so he's an idiot anyway. --FT On 6/29/21 2:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Obviously anything's possible on a 20 year old car, but are the power top motors/controllers a weak point on these? Allan On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, at 2:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: $2k then. If the motor or controller is shot that’s big money. Did he CHECK YOUR FUSES??? --FT Sent from iPhone On Jun 29, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: "when i parked car for winter piwer top worked fine when i got back out for summer no longer works" https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/west-alexandria-2000-mercedes-benz/7343527854.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2000 CLK320 - 102k miles - $4,000
If it’s a CLK it’s not an R129. That being said, I know nothing about the top controllers on these and if they are any better or different from the R129s. -D > On Jun 29, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > the controllers can fry and they are spendy, all kinds of horror stories with > the R129s about jump starting them and frying the controller > > My guess is the fuse if it has been sitting. I'd check the battery voltage > and fuse first, ask if he tried to jumpstart it after sitting and buggered it > up that way. these top controllers and all that stuff are very problematic > even if the hydraulics are working. Might also need fluid but that is easy. > I don't understand that business about the switches, but they could be > buggered too and need a good cleaning. > > I'd offer $2k as it sits as the car looks nice, with the expectation that the > fix COULD be pricey and buying it could be an expensive risk, and if he wants > to keep messing with it to sell it then fine, here's my offer. Maybe some > other fool would go more. > > Plus apparently his phone will drain out the pics if he turns it sideways to > get the whole car in the pic, so he's an idiot anyway. > > --FT > > On 6/29/21 2:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> Obviously anything's possible on a 20 year old car, but are the power top >> motors/controllers a weak point on these? >> >> Allan >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, at 2:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >>> $2k then. If the motor or controller is shot that’s big money. >>> >>> Did he CHECK YOUR FUSES??? >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iPhone >>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: "when i parked car for winter piwer top worked fine when i got back out for summer no longer works" https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/west-alexandria-2000-mercedes-benz/7343527854.html Allan >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > -- > --FT > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2000 CLK320 - 102k miles - $4,000
the controllers can fry and they are spendy, all kinds of horror stories with the R129s about jump starting them and frying the controller My guess is the fuse if it has been sitting. I'd check the battery voltage and fuse first, ask if he tried to jumpstart it after sitting and buggered it up that way. these top controllers and all that stuff are very problematic even if the hydraulics are working. Might also need fluid but that is easy. I don't understand that business about the switches, but they could be buggered too and need a good cleaning. I'd offer $2k as it sits as the car looks nice, with the expectation that the fix COULD be pricey and buying it could be an expensive risk, and if he wants to keep messing with it to sell it then fine, here's my offer. Maybe some other fool would go more. Plus apparently his phone will drain out the pics if he turns it sideways to get the whole car in the pic, so he's an idiot anyway. --FT On 6/29/21 2:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Obviously anything's possible on a 20 year old car, but are the power top motors/controllers a weak point on these? Allan On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, at 2:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: $2k then. If the motor or controller is shot that’s big money. Did he CHECK YOUR FUSES??? --FT Sent from iPhone On Jun 29, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: "when i parked car for winter piwer top worked fine when i got back out for summer no longer works" https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/west-alexandria-2000-mercedes-benz/7343527854.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2000 CLK320 - 102k miles - $4,000
Obviously anything's possible on a 20 year old car, but are the power top motors/controllers a weak point on these? Allan On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, at 2:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > $2k then. If the motor or controller is shot that’s big money. > > Did he CHECK YOUR FUSES??? > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jun 29, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > "when i parked car for winter piwer top worked fine when i got back out > > for summer no longer works" > > > > https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/west-alexandria-2000-mercedes-benz/7343527854.html > > > > Allan > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2000 CLK320 - 102k miles - $4,000
$2k then. If the motor or controller is shot that’s big money. Did he CHECK YOUR FUSES??? --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 29, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > "when i parked car for winter piwer top worked fine when i got back out for > summer no longer works" > > https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/west-alexandria-2000-mercedes-benz/7343527854.html > > Allan > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2000 CLK320 - 102k miles - $4,000
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