Re: [MBZ] 220D Head Removal - Epilogue

2009-08-10 Thread Peter Frederick

Not the same one as in the W123 though.

Ditto for the 617, different suffix on the engine numbers.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 220D Head Removal - Epilogue

2009-08-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:30:29 -0500 OK Don  wrote:

> But there was a 115 version of the 616 

Yes, and a W115 version of the 617, too!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 220D Head Removal - Epilogue

2009-08-10 Thread OK Don
But there was a 115 version of the 616 

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Peter Frederick wrote:

> The oil filter on a W115 is up front, underneath in a canister.  Huge PITA
> to change as you always end up with oil running down your armpit.  The
> filter housing is by #1 cylinder underneath the injection pump.
>
> On the 616 (as opposed to the 615 which is in the W115), the oil filter
> housing is on top of the fitting and the filter is removed by taking the
> cover off.  I have seen a few with a remote housing, but only in the W123
> chassis, not the W115.  Much nicer, as you don't have to lie on the ground
> with oil dripping on you.
>
> You cannot put a 617 out of a W123 into a W115 for the same reason.  Has to
> be the one installed there, and they are uncommon these days.
>
> Peter
>
> --
> OK Don, with oil stained armpits still from the three 115 Diesels I used to
> own.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 220D Head Removal - Epilogue

2009-08-10 Thread Peter Frederick
The oil filter on a W115 is up front, underneath in a canister.  Huge  
PITA to change as you always end up with oil running down your  
armpit.  The filter housing is by #1 cylinder underneath the  
injection pump.


On the 616 (as opposed to the 615 which is in the W115), the oil  
filter housing is on top of the fitting and the filter is removed by  
taking the cover off.  I have seen a few with a remote housing, but  
only in the W123 chassis, not the W115.  Much nicer, as you don't  
have to lie on the ground with oil dripping on you.


You cannot put a 617 out of a W123 into a W115 for the same reason.   
Has to be the one installed there, and they are uncommon these days.


Peter



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Re: [MBZ] 220D Head Removal - Epilogue

2009-08-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:51:37 -0500 Peter Frederick 
wrote:

> You may just need a new rod.
> 
> Note that the 616 engine will NOT fit in a W115 chassis unless you  
> remove the fender brace -- hte oil filter housing is in the wrong place.

Is that what they did to get a W115 240D?

Or better yet, where is the oil filter on a W115 240D? I presume it's in a
different place than the W123 240D, namely underneath like the W115 220D.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 220D Head Removal - Epilogue

2009-08-10 Thread Peter Frederick

You may just need a new rod.

Note that the 616 engine will NOT fit in a W115 chassis unless you  
remove the fender brace -- hte oil filter housing is in the wrong place.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 220D Head Removal - Epilogue

2009-08-09 Thread B Dike
Finally got the head off.  Had to remove water pump, etc. and fabricated a 
puller for the timing chain rail pin using a hose clamp and a bolt.  The 
pin came out nicely and I removed the rail and lifted off the head.  
 
Everything looked fine...except that 3 pistons were at TDC!  #2 piston was 
stationary.  
 
Oh well.  I was looking forward to puttering around in the little 220 but I 
guess a motor swap with the banged up 240D is in the works.
 
Cheers,
 
Bruce


  
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