Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed
> > The shifter is loose and the reverse lockout is gone. The mechanic doesn’t > > want to take the shifter apart because it will make the car unmovable > > unless you push it. Have the Indy take the old shifter off, help him push the car out the door, have him install new bushings, help him push the car back in, reinstall the shifter. Probably take longer to move the car than fix it. Or option B, find a new Indy. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed
Classic Center? Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sat, Jun 5, 2021, 10:40 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Have you called SoCal Mercedes or checked on ebay? > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:48 PM John Ingram via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > The shifter is loose and the reverse lockout is gone. The mechanic > > doesn’t want to take the shifter apart because it will make the car > > unmovable unless you push it. I’d like to get a shifter and rebuild it > and > > then switch them. The problem is now finding a shifter. > > > > John I. > > > > > On Jun 4, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Jim Cathey > wrote: > > > > > > How worn-out? There are replaceable bushings inside the shifter, IIRC. > > > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed
Have you called SoCal Mercedes or checked on ebay? On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 10:48 PM John Ingram via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The shifter is loose and the reverse lockout is gone. The mechanic > doesn’t want to take the shifter apart because it will make the car > unmovable unless you push it. I’d like to get a shifter and rebuild it and > then switch them. The problem is now finding a shifter. > > John I. > > > On Jun 4, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > > > > How worn-out? There are replaceable bushings inside the shifter, IIRC. > > > > -- Jim > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed
The shifter is loose and the reverse lockout is gone. The mechanic doesn’t want to take the shifter apart because it will make the car unmovable unless you push it. I’d like to get a shifter and rebuild it and then switch them. The problem is now finding a shifter. John I. > On Jun 4, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > > How worn-out? There are replaceable bushings inside the shifter, IIRC. > > -- Jim > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed
How worn-out? There are replaceable bushings inside the shifter, IIRC. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D 4-speed
I did not try to fix the 4-speed shifter, the local mbz mechanic fixed one of the rod ends and thinks it’s OK. I would like to find a 4 speed shifter to replace the worn out one in the car. Does anyone know where I can find one? 83 240D 4-speed 123 chassis. Thank you, John Ingram 83 240D 320+K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed
I like that one - might have to make a set! On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 6:31 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > There is also these with the removable ramp. > > > On 11/05/2021 12:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > > One of my favorite things about a 240D is that it'll easily drive up > onto a set of ramps. Mine are also old Sears ramps. To get my Jetta up on > ramps requires 3 pieces of 2x6 to make a ramp so the front air dam doesn't > hit. > > -Curt > > > > On Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 12:26:47 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > I don’t have a safe way to [get under the car], may need to take it > to a shop > > > > A set of ramps is usually pretty easy. Son just welded the muffler back > on > > the 190D using a set of green pressed steel ramps. (Old Sears product?) > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed
Silver Star is a good indy shop in Vienna. Ask for Peter. On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 3:02 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have posted photos before of a set of ramps that I made out of 3/4" > plywood. I didn't invent them. They were a plan in a car magazine way > back when. I made a taller set back in the early 70's that I used with a > pickup truck to get it higher. In the 80's or 90's I made another set > with a more gradual slope to permit me to drive our then Taurus or Sable > onto them and not take out the front spoiler. The other advantage of > them is that being a more gradual slope, it is much easier for the car > to climb them. > > Randy > > On 11/05/2021 12:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > > One of my favorite things about a 240D is that it'll easily drive up > onto a set of ramps. Mine are also old Sears ramps. To get my Jetta up on > ramps requires 3 pieces of 2x6 to make a ramp so the front air dam doesn't > hit. > > -Curt > > > > On Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 12:26:47 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > I don’t have a safe way to [get under the car], may need to take it > to a shop > > > > A set of ramps is usually pretty easy. Son just welded the muffler back > on > > the 190D using a set of green pressed steel ramps. (Old Sears product?) > > > > -- Jim > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed
I have posted photos before of a set of ramps that I made out of 3/4" plywood. I didn't invent them. They were a plan in a car magazine way back when. I made a taller set back in the early 70's that I used with a pickup truck to get it higher. In the 80's or 90's I made another set with a more gradual slope to permit me to drive our then Taurus or Sable onto them and not take out the front spoiler. The other advantage of them is that being a more gradual slope, it is much easier for the car to climb them. Randy On 11/05/2021 12:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: One of my favorite things about a 240D is that it'll easily drive up onto a set of ramps. Mine are also old Sears ramps. To get my Jetta up on ramps requires 3 pieces of 2x6 to make a ramp so the front air dam doesn't hit. -Curt On Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 12:26:47 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > I don’t have a safe way to [get under the car], may need to take it to a shop A set of ramps is usually pretty easy. Son just welded the muffler back on the 190D using a set of green pressed steel ramps. (Old Sears product?) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed
Is this helpful for stick shift bushings? https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-shift-bushing-installer-baum-tools-b7200 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed
One of my favorite things about a 240D is that it'll easily drive up onto a set of ramps. Mine are also old Sears ramps. To get my Jetta up on ramps requires 3 pieces of 2x6 to make a ramp so the front air dam doesn't hit. -Curt On Tuesday, May 11, 2021, 12:26:47 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > I don’t have a safe way to [get under the car], may need to take it to a shop A set of ramps is usually pretty easy. Son just welded the muffler back on the 190D using a set of green pressed steel ramps. (Old Sears product?) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed
Hi John, It’s not terribly difficult can you definitely need the car raised up a bit to get under it. It’s something that’s pretty straightforward on a lift, so any competent shop should be able to do it if your not up for it. Just be sure genuine MB parts are used. Lots of shops cut corners and use little pieces of fuel hose, etc instead of waiting for the correct parts. The bushings in the shifter itself can be done from inside the car, but not the ones are the shift rods which are most important Good luck, Jaime On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 12:23 PM John Ingram via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Jaime, > > Thank you, this is the explanation I was hoping for. I guess I’d need to > get under the car to do this? I don’t have a safe way to do that, may need > to take it to a shop (there is a good one near here). Can the shifter > bushings be replaced from inside the car? > > John Ingram > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed
> I don’t have a safe way to [get under the car], may need to take it to a shop A set of ramps is usually pretty easy. Son just welded the muffler back on the 190D using a set of green pressed steel ramps. (Old Sears product?) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D 4-speed
Jaime, Thank you, this is the explanation I was hoping for. I guess I’d need to get under the car to do this? I don’t have a safe way to do that, may need to take it to a shop (there is a good one near here). Can the shifter bushings be replaced from inside the car? John Ingram ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed
Welcome back John. Could be bushings, but hard to say. I locked up a manny trying to install fresh bushings. Should have been more careful about not letting the transmission end arms move. With wiggly play in the rods, sometimes two gears can become engaged. I had to secure a fresh working trans to swap in. Never did get the locked up one torn down and rebuilt. clay I have no pronouns please do not refer to me. > On May 10, 2021, at 1:05 PM, John Ingram via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have a ’83 240D 4-speed manual, 300+++ miles. The shifter is loose and > occasionally feels completely disconnected and will not go into any gear. It > also locked up in neutral and would not move in any direction. In between > these episodes it works normally. What is going on? > Thank You. > John Ingram > Maryland > ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D 4-speed
I'll offer $500, standard Kaleb price. Max Dillon Charleston SC May 10, 2021 8:07:23 PM John Ingram via Mercedes : > I have a ’83 240D 4-speed manual, 300+++ miles. The shifter is loose and > occasionally feels completely disconnected and will not go into any gear. It > also locked up in neutral and would not move in any direction. In between > these episodes it works normally. What is going on? > Thank You. > John Ingram > Maryland > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D 4-speed
I have a ’83 240D 4-speed manual, 300+++ miles. The shifter is loose and occasionally feels completely disconnected and will not go into any gear. It also locked up in neutral and would not move in any direction. In between these episodes it works normally. What is going on? Thank You. John Ingram Maryland ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
