Re: [MBZ] 240D engines
> Are the pencil plugs the same size as the old style? IE - are the threads the > same? Do they just screw in or is some form of adapter required? No. There are special pencil-style plugs that fit in the old loop-style holes. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D engines
Are the pencil plugs the same size as the old style? IE - are the threads the same? Do they just screw in or is some form of adapter required? Randy On 08/02/2024 12:02 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 20:26:13 + (UTC) Curt Raymond wrote: Did you need a different controller for pencil plugs or could you just rewire them? I used a new, different controller. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D engines
On Wed, 7 Feb 2024 20:26:13 + (UTC) Curt Raymond wrote: > Did you need a different controller for pencil plugs or could you just > rewire them? I used a new, different controller. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D engines
that was a southern Car. Georgia & NC On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 3:27 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Did you need a different controller for pencil plugs or could you just > rewire them? > > When I bought Dwight's '78 240D it had been cleverly converted to pencil > plugs by installing pencil plugs and adding a button on the dash that > triggered a Ford starter solenoid. Unfortunately whoever had wired it still > series wired the plugs and with only 10ga wire I don't think the forward > most one was heating up much. Used to have to hold the button for 30-40 > seconds for good starting. > > I made new wires from the relay to each plug, still in 10ga and a heavy, > iirc 6ga wire from the relay to the battery. After that one melted on the > exhaust manifold and made an exciting show of sparks I added an inline fuse > too, well after I replaced the wire. > > Went from 30-40 seconds of preheat required to 10-15... > > -Curt > > > On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 10:09:23 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:47:28 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Someone refresh my memory. Difference between a 1980 and a 1982 240D > > engine. I know the HP increased a little after certain years. When did > > the switch to pencil glow plugs happen? > > IIRC, the middle of 1982. > > You can (could) get pencil plugs to replace loop plugs, along with the > new controller to run them. > > > Craig > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D engines
Did you need a different controller for pencil plugs or could you just rewire them? When I bought Dwight's '78 240D it had been cleverly converted to pencil plugs by installing pencil plugs and adding a button on the dash that triggered a Ford starter solenoid. Unfortunately whoever had wired it still series wired the plugs and with only 10ga wire I don't think the forward most one was heating up much. Used to have to hold the button for 30-40 seconds for good starting. I made new wires from the relay to each plug, still in 10ga and a heavy, iirc 6ga wire from the relay to the battery. After that one melted on the exhaust manifold and made an exciting show of sparks I added an inline fuse too, well after I replaced the wire. Went from 30-40 seconds of preheat required to 10-15... -Curt On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 10:09:23 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:47:28 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Someone refresh my memory. Difference between a 1980 and a 1982 240D > engine. I know the HP increased a little after certain years. When did > the switch to pencil glow plugs happen? IIRC, the middle of 1982. You can (could) get pencil plugs to replace loop plugs, along with the new controller to run them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D engines
On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 22:57:42 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > I guess I never mailed that…. Perhaps I will remember when I get back > home. Should I remind you? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D engines
I guess I never mailed that…. Perhaps I will remember when I get back home. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2024, at 10:41 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 21:10:03 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Do you recall what the HP increase was? > > I think it was about 6 HP, but I'm not sure. > > The manuals I gave you with the 240D/3.0 have the information > _somewhere_ ... > > > Craig > > >>> On Feb 6, 2024, at 9:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:47:28 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> Someone refresh my memory. Difference between a 1980 and a 1982 240D engine. I know the HP increased a little after certain years. When did the switch to pencil glow plugs happen? >>> >>> IIRC, the middle of 1982. >>> >>> You can (could) get pencil plugs to replace loop plugs, along with the >>> new controller to run them. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D engines
On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 21:10:03 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Do you recall what the HP increase was? I think it was about 6 HP, but I'm not sure. The manuals I gave you with the 240D/3.0 have the information _somewhere_ ... Craig > > On Feb 6, 2024, at 9:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:47:28 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > >> Someone refresh my memory. Difference between a 1980 and a 1982 240D > >> engine. I know the HP increased a little after certain years. When > >> did the switch to pencil glow plugs happen? > > > > IIRC, the middle of 1982. > > > > You can (could) get pencil plugs to replace loop plugs, along with the > > new controller to run them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D engines
Do you recall what the HP increase was? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 6, 2024, at 9:09 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:47:28 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Someone refresh my memory. Difference between a 1980 and a 1982 240D >> engine. I know the HP increased a little after certain years. When did >> the switch to pencil glow plugs happen? > > IIRC, the middle of 1982. > > You can (could) get pencil plugs to replace loop plugs, along with the > new controller to run them. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D engines
On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:47:28 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Someone refresh my memory. Difference between a 1980 and a 1982 240D > engine. I know the HP increased a little after certain years. When did > the switch to pencil glow plugs happen? IIRC, the middle of 1982. You can (could) get pencil plugs to replace loop plugs, along with the new controller to run them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D engines
Someone refresh my memory. Difference between a 1980 and a 1982 240D engine. I know the HP increased a little after certain years. When did the switch to pencil glow plugs happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
