Re: [MBZ] 300D Transmission Service Question

2007-08-20 Thread Jim Cathey
 5.) While the tranny is dripping, remove the old seal
 from the pan and clean the pan.

Before I do this I let the tranny guts drip into the
pan.  This keeps windblown dust out of the works, the
pan is only off the tranny a short period of time.  Once
to remove the filter, and once at the end to clean off
the pan before reassembly.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] 300D Transmission Service Question

2007-08-11 Thread Robert Rentfro
Speaking of transmission service, is that a job found in the service/shop
CD? If so, where? I just may do that on my 300D today as a stress from
studying relief.

Donkey Shirts

Bob R
300D 178K
Goodyear. AZ


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Re: [MBZ] 300D Transmission Service Question

2007-08-11 Thread LWB250
Bob,

With the necessary parts and fluids ready, it's really
a no-brainer.

1.) Drain the pan until it stops dripping.

2.) Remove the cover from the bottom of the bell
housing and bump the engine until you can see the
drain plug for the torque converter.  Remove the plug
and let it drain.

3.) Remove the pan and have a drip pan or something
ready to go underneath, as ATF will drip off the valve
body and filter for some time.

4.) Remove the bolts from the filter and take it off
the valve body.  Let the tranny drip for a good hour
if you can.  You would be amazed at how much ATF will
come out over that time.

NOTE:  Be as close to surgically clean as you can when
working with the tranny open.  The clearances in the
valve body are literally microscopic, and the tiniest
piece of dirt that gets in the system after the filter
can booger it up.

5.) While the tranny is dripping, remove the old seal
from the pan and clean the pan.  You will find some
friction material in the pan - this is normal wear. 
Make sure the pan is super clean, both inside and out,
and that the areas around the bolt holes are not
distorted or bent.  Put the new seal on the clean pan.

6.) Put the plug back in the torque converter.

7.) Install the filter.

8.)  Put the pan in place, and snug the bolts up all
the way around.  Tighten the bolts to spec, which is
really, really, low, something like 14 in-lbs (yes,
inch-pounds!)

9. Put the drain plug back in the pan if you haven't
already.

10.) Using a clean funnel, pour 4 quarts of ATF
(ideally, Mobil1) into the transmission fill tube. 
Start the car and run the transmission through the
gear ranges several times, resting in each for at
least 5-10 seconds.  The transmission will clunk and
act funny, which is nothing more than it trying to
work without enough fluid in it, and the torque
converter filling up.

11.) Check the dipstick for ATF level.  You'll
probably get some really weird readings at first as
the ATF slops around in the pan.  Add more ATF
gradually, running the transmission through the gear
ranges each time before checking the level again.

12. ) When it starts to get close to full (the lower
mark, since the transmission is cold) take it for a
road test.  It may act up a little as the air is
purged from the system, but should eventually smooth
out.

13.) Bring it back in, check the level, and top off as
needed.  Just be careful about overfilling, as too
much ATF is a bad thing.

Some people will do this without draining the torque
converter, but I think that's sort of silly, since the
torque converter holds several quarts of ATF, so
you're leaving a fair amount of old ATF in the system
if you don't.


Dan




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 Speaking of transmission service, is that a job
 found in the service/shop
 CD? If so, where? I just may do that on my 300D
 today as a stress from
 studying relief.
 
 Donkey Shirts
 
 Bob R
 300D 178K
 Goodyear. AZ
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D Transmission Service Question

2007-08-11 Thread Marshall Booth
LWB250 wrote:.
 
 8.)  Put the pan in place, and snug the bolts up all
 the way around.  Tighten the bolts to spec, which is
 really, really, low, something like 14 in-lbs (yes,
 inch-pounds!)

Not quite! The torque value for the pan bolts is 5.18 lb-ft (that's 62 
lb-inch unless I've messed up my math).

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 300D Transmission Service Question

2007-08-11 Thread LWB250
Thanks Marshall - that's why I didn't quote an exact
value, as I don't have it in front of me but knew that
it was really low.

FWIW, most transmission fluid leaks around the pan are
due to the pan bolts being overtightened.  When I have
encountered leaks, removing the pan, flattening out
the flange and areas around the bolt holes and
installing a new gasket with the correct torque value
always cleared it up.

People always seem to want to crank down on these with
some major force...

Dan


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 Not quite! The torque value for the pan bolts is
 5.18 lb-ft (that's 62 
 lb-inch unless I've messed up my math).
 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D Transmission Service Question

2007-08-11 Thread Robert Rentfro
Unless the sun rose in the west today, I doubt Herr Doktor mess up his math.

Bob R.


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D Transmission Service Question

LWB250 wrote:.
 
 8.)  Put the pan in place, and snug the bolts up all
 the way around.  Tighten the bolts to spec, which is
 really, really, low, something like 14 in-lbs (yes,
 inch-pounds!)

Not quite! The torque value for the pan bolts is 5.18 lb-ft (that's 62 
lb-inch unless I've messed up my math).

Marshall
-- 
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
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Re: [MBZ] 300D Transmission Service Question

2007-08-11 Thread Zoltan Finks
Hey thanks. I will refer to this list when I attempt my 190D
procedure! Though it sounds pretty self-evident anyway.

Brian

On 8/11/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bob,

 With the necessary parts and fluids ready, it's really
 a no-brainer.

 1.) Drain the pan until it stops dripping.

 2.) Remove the cover from the bottom of the bell
 housing and bump the engine until you can see the
 drain plug for the torque converter.  Remove the plug
 and let it drain.

 3.) Remove the pan and have a drip pan or something
 ready to go underneath, as ATF will drip off the valve
 body and filter for some time.

 4.) Remove the bolts from the filter and take it off
 the valve body.  Let the tranny drip for a good hour
 if you can.  You would be amazed at how much ATF will
 come out over that time.

 NOTE:  Be as close to surgically clean as you can when
 working with the tranny open.  The clearances in the
 valve body are literally microscopic, and the tiniest
 piece of dirt that gets in the system after the filter
 can booger it up.

 5.) While the tranny is dripping, remove the old seal
 from the pan and clean the pan.  You will find some
 friction material in the pan - this is normal wear.
 Make sure the pan is super clean, both inside and out,
 and that the areas around the bolt holes are not
 distorted or bent.  Put the new seal on the clean pan.

 6.) Put the plug back in the torque converter.

 7.) Install the filter.

 8.)  Put the pan in place, and snug the bolts up all
 the way around.  Tighten the bolts to spec, which is
 really, really, low, something like 14 in-lbs (yes,
 inch-pounds!)

 9. Put the drain plug back in the pan if you haven't
 already.

 10.) Using a clean funnel, pour 4 quarts of ATF
 (ideally, Mobil1) into the transmission fill tube.
 Start the car and run the transmission through the
 gear ranges several times, resting in each for at
 least 5-10 seconds.  The transmission will clunk and
 act funny, which is nothing more than it trying to
 work without enough fluid in it, and the torque
 converter filling up.

 11.) Check the dipstick for ATF level.  You'll
 probably get some really weird readings at first as
 the ATF slops around in the pan.  Add more ATF
 gradually, running the transmission through the gear
 ranges each time before checking the level again.

 12. ) When it starts to get close to full (the lower
 mark, since the transmission is cold) take it for a
 road test.  It may act up a little as the air is
 purged from the system, but should eventually smooth
 out.

 13.) Bring it back in, check the level, and top off as
 needed.  Just be careful about overfilling, as too
 much ATF is a bad thing.

 Some people will do this without draining the torque
 converter, but I think that's sort of silly, since the
 torque converter holds several quarts of ATF, so
 you're leaving a fair amount of old ATF in the system
 if you don't.


 Dan




 --- Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Speaking of transmission service, is that a job
  found in the service/shop
  CD? If so, where? I just may do that on my 300D
  today as a stress from
  studying relief.
 
  Donkey Shirts
 
  Bob R
  300D 178K
  Goodyear. AZ
 
 
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[MBZ] 300D transmission

2005-08-16 Thread redghost


http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/91311765.html

dude wants $350

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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
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