[MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
Thanks to all who replied concerning the IC removal. I did remove the steering wheel which did give me more room to work with. It was not a quick procedure. Not much room to get a hand behind there to unscrew the speedo cable or to reattach. But with careful patience and a few dad gum its, the re-mfg tach/clock are in and functioning along with a re-mfg cruise amp. I don't have a heated garage so I left the car run with the heater on until it was time to unscrew the oil pressure line, I believe the outside temp was a balmy 0 degrees F. Thanks to all. Roger _ Valentines Day -- Shop for gifts that spell L-O-V-E at MSN Shopping http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctId=8323,ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24095tcode=wlmtagline
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
Hendrik - there's a reason that M-B makes and recommends 2 small hooks to get the cluster out - it's easier and a lot safer, as you can stop pulling when it pops free! (and a couple of thin steel hooks, or even coat hangers inserted in the correct place, won't hurt anything.) Werner - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal The best method is to push it from behind after disconnecting the speedo cable, the problem with using coathangers is the potential to cause damage. The cluster can be fairly tight in there and if you are going to push from behind, place a towel in front of the cluster as you push it. Why? Because it may come out with a rush and break of one of the little knobs on the front. How do I know? Because I have not been able to set my clock since the last time I removed the cluster. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal Was wondering what it takes/how to remove the cluster. Does it slide out with the coat hanger positioned on its side like the 126 model does? Yep, pretty much.
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
Well, whichever method is used, I would still recommend placing a towel/large rag in front of the cluster. Just in case it does pop out and hit the steering wheel. I suppose to make it easier, removing the steering wheel is not a bad idea. Anyway removing a cluster out of a 123 is a picece of cake compared to a 201, especially if you have big hands. - Original Message - From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal Hendrik - there's a reason that M-B makes and recommends 2 small hooks to get the cluster out - it's easier and a lot safer, as you can stop pulling when it pops free! (and a couple of thin steel hooks, or even coat hangers inserted in the correct place, won't hurt anything.) Werner
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
But could you go a little deeper in the meaning of the unswitched fuse? For the clock. That is the reason behind taking out IC the tach/clock, the clock is non functioning is there a fuse to it? Bought a re-mfg tach/clock for $45.00. There is a fuse. Same one runs the courtesy lamps, automatic antenna, etc. If anything (besides head/parking lights) runs with the key off, your fuse is likely OK. Worth a look, of course. Its function should be clearly labeled inside the fuse box cover. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
Well, whichever method is used, I would still recommend placing a towel/large rag in front of the cluster. Just in case it does pop out and hit the steering wheel. I suppose to make it easier, removing the steering wheel is not a bad idea. It can help, but it's a lot of trouble. (It's required, of course, on a 107.) Anyway removing a cluster out of a 123 is a picece of cake compared to a 201, especially if you have big hands. Yeah, I hate that one. Only one hand can snake up from below to get at what needs to be done. The other one bends the wrong way... -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
Yes, the steering wheel is usually recommended to be removed first - makes the job a lot easier, especially in a 107! I've managed to remove the IC on both my 124 and 126 with the wheel in place, but in any case its almost impossible to get behind and push it out, especially the 126 with its large knee panels. Of course, there's no oil line to fool with, but getting at the speedometer connection is still a challenge! The only grief I had on the 124 is that some of the factory applied adhesive on the dash covering had been slopped over, so that the IC was stuck in the glue. Had to really pull hard (even bent the hooks a couple of times) to break the glue bond. The hint to clean and perhaps replace all the light bulbs is a good one - saves going through the whole thing again just for a bulb! Werner - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal Well, whichever method is used, I would still recommend placing a towel/large rag in front of the cluster. Just in case it does pop out and hit the steering wheel. I suppose to make it easier, removing the steering wheel is not a bad idea. Anyway removing a cluster out of a 123 is a picece of cake compared to a 201, especially if you have big hands. - Original Message - From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal Hendrik - there's a reason that M-B makes and recommends 2 small hooks to get the cluster out - it's easier and a lot safer, as you can stop pulling when it pops free! (and a couple of thin steel hooks, or even coat hangers inserted in the correct place, won't hurt anything.) Werner
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
How is it a lot of trouble? All you do is take out the centre star thingy and unscrew the nut. Long as you mark where the wheel sat it is a easy job. Recently done one in a 201 and it took all of 5 minutes. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal hit the steering wheel. I suppose to make it easier, removing the steering wheel is not a bad idea. It can help, but it's a lot of trouble. (It's required, of course, on a 107.)
[MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
Hello; I plan to replace my tach and non working clock with a remanufactured unit I bought. Was wondering what it takes/how to remove the cluster. Does it slide out with the coat hanger positioned on it's side like the 126 model does? Also wondering what cables to expect behind it, is there one for the tach and speedo? Should I disconnect the cables for the battery? _ Check out all that glitters with the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards® http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline2
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
Was wondering what it takes/how to remove the cluster. Does it slide out with the coat hanger positioned on its side like the 126 model does? Yep, pretty much. Also wondering what cables to expect behind it, is there one for the tach and speedo? Speedo, oil pressure. Then a bunch of electrical connectors such as the main cluster plug, the tach, the clock, and some indicator lights. It's no big deal, once you've gotten it pulled out. Should I disconnect the cables for the battery? Some do, some don't. The worst you're likely to do is blow the clock (unswitched) fuse if you don't. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
The best method is to push it from behind after disconnecting the speedo cable, the problem with using coathangers is the potential to cause damage. The cluster can be fairly tight in there and if you are going to push from behind, place a towel in front of the cluster as you push it. Why? Because it may come out with a rush and break of one of the little knobs on the front. How do I know? Because I have not been able to set my clock since the last time I removed the cluster. - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal Was wondering what it takes/how to remove the cluster. Does it slide out with the coat hanger positioned on its side like the 126 model does? Yep, pretty much.
[MBZ] 85 300D Instrument cluster removal
Should I disconnect the cables for the battery? Some do, some don't. The worst you're likely to do is blow the clock (unswitched) fuse if you don't. -- Jim Thanks Jim, But could you go a little deeper in the meaning of the unswitched fuse? For the clock. That is the reason behind taking out IC the tach/clock, the clock is non functioning is there a fuse to it? Bought a re-mfg tach/clock for $45.00. Roger _ Check out all that glitters with the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards® http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline2
