Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
I was thinking that too, but Kaleb says this car already has that clutched pulley, so ? One example is a terrible sample size to draw a conclusion from. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 7:46 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > If you switch the alternator pulley to the freewheel version, it will not > jiggle the spring to death at idle. But springs are pretty cheap. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
If you switch the alternator pulley to the freewheel version, it will not jiggle the spring to death at idle. But springs are pretty cheap. On Sun, Nov 17, 2019, 4:12 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > All it takes is a tire iron/lug wrench, a couple of 13mm wrenches and a > minute and you can swap the spring out. > > The lug wrench is the critical tool here. > > -D > > > On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:46:52 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > >> I had a spring break. Not a bad idea to carry a spare, or install new > >> every 10 yrs or so as preventative. > >> > >> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 11:24 AM: > >>> I have had it happen to me about 3-4 times that I can remember. It is > >>> probably a good idea considering it takes less than a minute to > >>> install. > > > > So how does the spring work with the tensioner so it can be replaced in > > less than a minute? It must be quite different than the OM602 tensioner. > > > > > > Craig > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
And written words usually do not convey the same meaning without the visual and tone information that is conveyed in person. Pair that with the axiom that most failures have a breakdown in communication as a root cause, and one should resolve to choose their words wisely. Max Dillon Charleston SC Nov 18, 2019 5:49:04 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes : > "were". :) > > Not really suggesting anything. That statement came to mind, and I thought > I'd share it. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: November 18, 2019 3:54 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: rbenn...@bennell.ca > Subject: Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal > > So, are you suggesting he should have said "words was hard"? > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
"were". :) Not really suggesting anything. That statement came to mind, and I thought I'd share it. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: November 18, 2019 3:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: rbenn...@bennell.ca Subject: Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal So, are you suggesting he should have said "words was hard"? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
Words will have been hard. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 4:54 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: So, are you suggesting he should have said "words was hard"? Randy On 18/11/2019 3:43 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > It depends on what the definition of "is" is. > > https://slate.com/news-and-politics/1998/09/bill-clinton-and-the-meaning-of-is.html > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: November 18, 2019 2:25 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: azbob...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal > > Words is hard. > > Bob R > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
So, are you suggesting he should have said "words was hard"? Randy On 18/11/2019 3:43 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: It depends on what the definition of "is" is. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/1998/09/bill-clinton-and-the-meaning-of-is.html Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: November 18, 2019 2:25 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: azbob...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal Words is hard. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
It depends on what the definition of "is" is. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/1998/09/bill-clinton-and-the-meaning-of-is.html Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: November 18, 2019 2:25 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: azbob...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal Words is hard. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
Sadly, yes. Randy On 18/11/2019 2:24 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: Words is hard. Bob R Sent from my iPad On Nov 18, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 16/11/2019 5:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: So I went over and checked out the e300 tensioner situation. Tensioner was fine, the spring must have broke and was MIA. I pulled one off another car and it was good to go. A poor choice of wording for the subject line. It suggests that he knew it was not properly repaired and hid that fact from you. You have had the car for some time and if it failed again, you could hardly say it was his fault. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
Words is hard. Bob R Sent from my iPad > On Nov 18, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 16/11/2019 5:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> So I went over and checked out the e300 tensioner situation. Tensioner was >> fine, the spring must have broke and was MIA. I pulled one off another car >> and it was good to go. >> > > A poor choice of wording for the subject line. It suggests that he knew it > was not properly repaired and hid that fact from you. You have had the car > for some time and if it failed again, you could hardly say it was his fault. > > Randy > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
On 16/11/2019 5:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: So I went over and checked out the e300 tensioner situation. Tensioner was fine, the spring must have broke and was MIA. I pulled one off another car and it was good to go. A poor choice of wording for the subject line. It suggests that he knew it was not properly repaired and hid that fact from you. You have had the car for some time and if it failed again, you could hardly say it was his fault. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
There, I fixed it. I have not seen a tire iron that would fit in a 3/8" or 11 mm hole. Not even my BMW motorsickle tire irons will. They are small. I always have a 12" extension in my box, and they work well for this job. Still takes me more than a minute. More like 10-15 to stop, open the hood drag out the tools change the spring and then clean up pack up and start off again. The lug wrench has to be the 123 or later style (or late 115) as the earlier ones had a hook on the end to pop off the 110/111/112 center hubcap. Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 6:11 PM: All it takes is a 3/8 Dia rod/lug wrench/long (12" x 3/8) socket extension, a couple of 13mm wrenches and a minute and you can swap the spring out. The lug wrench is the critical tool here. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
All it takes is a tire iron/lug wrench, a couple of 13mm wrenches and a minute and you can swap the spring out. The lug wrench is the critical tool here. -D > On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:46:52 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > >> I had a spring break. Not a bad idea to carry a spare, or install new >> every 10 yrs or so as preventative. >> >> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 11:24 AM: >>> I have had it happen to me about 3-4 times that I can remember. It is >>> probably a good idea considering it takes less than a minute to >>> install. > > So how does the spring work with the tensioner so it can be replaced in > less than a minute? It must be quite different than the OM602 tensioner. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:46:52 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > I had a spring break. Not a bad idea to carry a spare, or install new > every 10 yrs or so as preventative. > > Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 11:24 AM: > > I have had it happen to me about 3-4 times that I can remember. It is > > probably a good idea considering it takes less than a minute to > > install. So how does the spring work with the tensioner so it can be replaced in less than a minute? It must be quite different than the OM602 tensioner. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
I had a spring break. Not a bad idea to carry a spare, or install new every 10 yrs or so as preventative. Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 11:24 AM: I have had it happen to me about 3-4 times that I can remember. It is probably a good idea considering it takes less than a minute to install. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
I have had it happen to me about 3-4 times that I can remember. It is probably a good idea considering it takes less than a minute to install. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 17, 2019, at 6:55 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > That is good news, far better than dealing with stripped threads or worse. > > I'm beginning to wonder if keeping a spare spring in my OM60x cars wouldn't > be a bad idea. I've heard several stories about these springs breaking, > not terribly common but would be very inconvenient if it happened on the > road and far from a parts source. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > >> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 7:21 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> So I went over and checked out the e300 tensioner situation. Tensioner was >> fine, the spring must have broke and was MIA. I pulled one off another car >> and it was good to go. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
That is good news, far better than dealing with stripped threads or worse. I'm beginning to wonder if keeping a spare spring in my OM60x cars wouldn't be a bad idea. I've heard several stories about these springs breaking, not terribly common but would be very inconvenient if it happened on the road and far from a parts source. - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 7:21 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So I went over and checked out the e300 tensioner situation. Tensioner was > fine, the spring must have broke and was MIA. I pulled one off another car > and it was good to go. > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
Good. I do have a little faith in my wrenching prowess. Bob R Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 16, 2019, at 5:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > So I went over and checked out the e300 tensioner situation. Tensioner was > fine, the spring must have broke and was MIA. I pulled one off another car > and it was good to go. > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal
So I went over and checked out the e300 tensioner situation. Tensioner was fine, the spring must have broke and was MIA. I pulled one off another car and it was good to go. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
