Re: [MBZ] Accents
Just type in alt 0-2-4-6 for ö; alt 0-2-5-2 for ü, etc. That will get you past most German words used in these lists! Should have bought a Mac: Umlaut-u (ü) is Alt-u-u, umlaut-anything is alt-u-anything. All the basic euro-accents are that way, associated with their most common (in English) letter. Cedilla is alt-c ç, the 'elan' accent alt-e-e é, circumflex is alt-i- î, Alt-a is å, alt-o is ø, alt-n-n is ñ, etc. (Oh, I forgot to do alt-u-o: ö. Alt-u-i is ï.) These ALL from memory, no stinking charts needed! This keyboard input method has been there since the beginning. (To be fair, so has the alt-numeric input of the PC, though I find the numbers completely unmnemonic.) For the less common ones I also have to use the chart application, but you can go surprisingly far without it. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Accents
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:10:24 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just type in alt 0-2-4-6 for ö; alt 0-2-5-2 for ü, etc. That will get you past most German words used in these lists! Should have bought a Mac: Umlaut-u (ü) is Alt-u-u, umlaut-anything is alt-u-anything. All the basic euro-accents are that way, associated with their most common (in English) letter. Cedilla is alt-c ç, the 'elan' accent alt-e-e é, circumflex is alt-i- î, Alt-a is å, alt-o is ø, alt-n-n is ñ, etc. (Oh, I forgot to do alt-u-o: ö. Alt-u-i is ï.) These ALL from memory, no stinking charts needed! This keyboard input method has been there since the beginning. (To be fair, so has the alt-numeric input of the PC, though I find the numbers completely unmnemonic.) Similar on Linux, with the left Winders key mapped to the Multi-key with the command, /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e 'keycode 115 = Multi_key' Type left Winders key, type the accent mark desired (double quote, , for umlaut) and type the letter to be accented. So, ü ä ö, and è é ê (that's left single quote, right single quote, and capital-6), and so forth, no table needed. ç Ç use comma. Craig
Re: [MBZ] Accents
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:28:18 -0700 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Similar on Linux, with the left Winders key mapped to the Multi-key with the command, /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e 'keycode 115 = Multi_key' Type left Winders key, type the accent mark desired (double quote, , for umlaut) and type the letter to be accented. So, ü ä ö, and è é ê (that's left single quote, right single quote, and capital-6), and so forth, no table needed. ç Ç use comma. And, being in New Mexico, how could I forget: Ñ, ñ, and the inverted exclamation point (which doesn't work correctly in this email program but does work correctly in OpenOffice; left Winders key, capital-1, capital-1). Craig
Re: [MBZ] Accents
?? I don't have an Alt key on my Imac. What gives? On 2/19/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just type in alt 0-2-4-6 for ö; alt 0-2-5-2 for ü, etc. That will get you past most German words used in these lists! Should have bought a Mac: Umlaut-u (ü) is Alt-u-u, umlaut-anything is alt-u-anything. All the basic euro-accents are that way, associated with their most common (in English) letter. Cedilla is alt-c ç, the 'elan' accent alt-e-e é, circumflex is alt-i- î, Alt-a is å, alt-o is ø, alt-n-n is ñ, etc. (Oh, I forgot to do alt-u-o: ö. Alt-u-i is ï.) These ALL from memory, no stinking charts needed! This keyboard input method has been there since the beginning. (To be fair, so has the alt-numeric input of the PC, though I find the numbers completely unmnemonic.) For the less common ones I also have to use the chart application, but you can go surprisingly far without it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Accents
Andrew, Look on the lower left side of the keyboard, to the left of the apple key. On that key, Option is printed and on the top in less noticeable letters Voila, alt.. That's how it is on the keyboards of my iBook and eMac Chuck Phoenix AZ On Feb 19, 2007, at 8:46 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: ?? I don't have an Alt key on my Imac. What gives?
Re: [MBZ] Accents
That Linux keyboard input method also seems reasonable, as does the Mac's. Leave it to Winders to have the worst one! After all, it's only been about 25 years! Takes them awhile to adopt improvements. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Accents
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Craig McCluskey wrote: Similar on Linux, with the left Winders key mapped to the Multi-key with the command, /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e 'keycode 115 = Multi_key' Type left Winders key, type the accent mark desired (double quote, , for umlaut) and type the letter to be accented. So, ü ä ö, and è é ê (that's left single quote, right single quote, and capital-6), and so forth, no table needed. ç Ç use comma. Cool. Like the Compose key on the VT's, kinda sorta. I think the VT's used for umlaut, ' for acute ` for grave, ^ for circumflex, ~ for tilde * for ring, c, for cedille, ae, oe, ss, !! for inverted , L- for pound, C- for cent , Y- for yen (= works for all the currencies), and +- 12 14 (1/2,1/4)... I cant remember them all :).. maybe I should get out the old beast and fire it up ;) -j.
Re: [MBZ] Accents
windoze will always have the worst of everything. that is what it means to be a monopoly. as long as almost every machine sold comes equipped with windoze, it will be junk. there is zero incentive to make a decent product. this isn't meant as an attack on microsoft or another pro apple rant, but rather is just a comment on the nature of power. if things were reversed and apple ruled the roost by definition, they'd be making junk and microsoft would have the worthwhile os. On 2/20/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That Linux keyboard input method also seems reasonable, as does the Mac's. Leave it to Winders to have the worst one! After all, it's only been about 25 years! Takes them awhile to adopt improvements. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
