Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
no, 114s were all gas powered 6 cylinder, 115 were diesel and 4 cylinder gas. The 115 has more body welds because they were used for heavy duty taxi service. Sunil Hari wrote: the 114s were all gasoline-powered, the 115s were all diesel powered. Indistinguishable from the outside (except badging, and who needs stinkin' badges?) -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
never figured out what the difference was. 114 may be a short-hood version for 4 cyl engines The 114 was the up-scale version. All sixes were 114, all fours were 115. I'm not sure where the 5-cylinders fit in there, I think they might also have been 114. Our 250C is a 114, the 200D a 115. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
I am not into butchery of 123s. If it won't bolt in, I will look for an engine that will fit. Just a shame if I can't find a use for this nice engine. I butchered my old 66 bronco back in the day. It was a U110 factory ragtop. Had a whole 170 CU. IN, and got 10 mpg. I thought it could not be worse with a 289. Partway into the project, I found out Ford mad a 6 cyl frame and body and an 8 cyl frame and body. Had to butcher both frame and body to put the 289 in. But it did pull like a tractor.. still got 10 MPG. Then I had to butcher a 62 econoline to put the 170 in it. Pre- and post- 1965 drivetrains were completely different, so we put the 66 drivetrain under the 62. At 01:17 PM 5/23/2007, you wrote: Well, I guess I wouldn't. But on the other hand a Caddy 472 under the hood of a vergasser 123 coupe could be fun.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? now why would you ever want to abuse a 123 and do that. On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah.Just need some fab skills, a few good friends, a torch and a welder... Mike - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body? Loren Faeth My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis ... for the right price. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
On 5/23/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not into butchery of 123s. If it won't bolt in, I will look for an engine that will fit. Just a shame if I can't find a use for this nice engine. and then proceed to give me an exceedingly good deal on the 115 engine, yes? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
if you give me a fair price for an exceedingly good engine! At 08:20 PM 5/23/2007, you wrote: On 5/23/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not into butchery of 123s. If it won't bolt in, I will look for an engine that will fit. Just a shame if I can't find a use for this nice engine. and then proceed to give me an exceedingly good deal on the 115 engine, yes? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
At current gasoline prices? I am starting to lust after my daughter's Chevy Cavalier. On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess I wouldn't. But on the other hand a Caddy 472 under the hood of a vergasser 123 coupe could be fun.;) -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
On 5/23/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At current gasoline prices? Completely off topic, but today Gas prices were hovering at $3.50-ish a gallon, and diesel was at $2.88 very rare I see diesel below gas. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
On 5/23/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you give me a fair price for an exceedingly good engine! I will surely *offer* you a fair price for a good engine. However, my finances may have other ideas. They have a life of their own right now -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
Just wait -- I'm expecting diesel to go up later and stay up longer, just like it did after Katrina/Rita the other year. Peter
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
I would think you could just use the engine mounts for the 115 version of the engine and pull wires as needed under the dash to accommodate it. Then again, what do I know. I will try anything once or twice. On May 23, 2007, at 4:58 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: I am not into butchery of 123s. If it won't bolt in, I will look for an engine that will fit. Just a shame if I can't find a use for this nice engine. I butchered my old 66 bronco back in the day. It was a U110 factory ragtop. Had a whole 170 CU. IN, and got 10 mpg. I thought it could not be worse with a 289. Partway into the project, I found out Ford mad a 6 cyl frame and body and an 8 cyl frame and body. Had to butcher both frame and body to put the 289 in. But it did pull like a tractor.. still got 10 MPG. Then I had to butcher a 62 econoline to put the 170 in it. Pre- and post- 1965 drivetrains were completely different, so we put the 66 drivetrain under the 62. At 01:17 PM 5/23/2007, you wrote: Well, I guess I wouldn't. But on the other hand a Caddy 472 under the hood of a vergasser 123 coupe could be fun.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? now why would you ever want to abuse a 123 and do that. On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah.Just need some fab skills, a few good friends, a torch and a welder... Mike - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body? Loren Faeth My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis ... for the right price. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http:// www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
Here in MA anyway gas is now $0.15-$0.25 a gallon more expensive than diesel. Even my friend with a Prius respects my 190D... -Curt Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 21:02:02 -0500 From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed At current gasoline prices? I am starting to lust after my daughter's Chevy Cavalier. On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess I wouldn't. But on the other hand a Caddy 472 under the hood of a vergasser 123 coupe could be fun.;) -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 24 14:03:35 2007 Received: from [68.142.206.44] (helo=web32814.mail.mud.yahoo.com) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HrDuh-0004TV-It for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:03:35 + Received: (qmail 30963 invoked by uid 60001); 24 May 2007 14:03:30 - X-YMail-OSG: mGkBLNoVM1kLbkma4J3E0TR0cNF0U9T6QqEdMQjBjbJVOVl5MwL2qo8zm0XOogZSZfaNMeJe4quJiXWY8L8TtCutWoY2Z3RpSIueKDdrHrlSgyXD8GpkV5IdvATtow-- Received: from [198.51.119.155] by web32814.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 May 2007 07:03:30 PDT Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 07:03:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 14:03:35 - Diesel seems to be more spike resistant than gas. They definately play by different rules... Gas may stabilze here in a week or two with refining capacity coming back. I don't think it will go down with the driving season coming on. I think diesel may rise a bit but I don't think it'll break $3. Interestingly the recent price rise seems to have gotten people to conserve. I hear where demand has softened somewhat. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 22:31:47 -0400 From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 5/23/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At current gasoline prices? Completely off topic, but today Gas prices were hovering at $3.50-ish a gallon, and diesel was at $2.88 very rare I see diesel below gas. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 24 14:14:03 2007 Received: from [204.127.203.211] (helo=sccmmhc91.asp.att.net) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HrE4o-0005J9-Ud for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:14:03 + Received: from lono.leadingchange.com (12-216-11-137.client.mchsi.com[12.216.11.137]) by sccmmhc91.asp.att.net (sccmmhc91) with SMTP id 20070524141347m9100d32lse; Thu, 24 May 2007 14:13:58 + X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:10:05 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tranny X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
I am also curious as to the real answer to your question. I guess my comments have helped go astray from that. 115 is what years? Would a 76 240D 4 speed be a 115? I like the 123 chassis much more than any of the others as well. Mike - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? I am not into butchery of 123s. If it won't bolt in, I will look for an engine that will fit. Just a shame if I can't find a use for this nice engine. I butchered my old 66 bronco back in the day. It was a U110 factory ragtop. Had a whole 170 CU. IN, and got 10 mpg. I thought it could not be worse with a 289. Partway into the project, I found out Ford mad a 6 cyl frame and body and an 8 cyl frame and body. Had to butcher both frame and body to put the 289 in. But it did pull like a tractor.. still got 10 MPG. Then I had to butcher a 62 econoline to put the 170 in it. Pre- and post- 1965 drivetrains were completely different, so we put the 66 drivetrain under the 62. At 01:17 PM 5/23/2007, you wrote: Well, I guess I wouldn't. But on the other hand a Caddy 472 under the hood of a vergasser 123 coupe could be fun.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? now why would you ever want to abuse a 123 and do that. On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah.Just need some fab skills, a few good friends, a torch and a welder... Mike - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body? Loren Faeth My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis ... for the right price. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
I did say fun right?...Not cheap. Although, with the right cam and attached to a 700R4 automatic, followed up by say, 2.73 or so rear end gearing a 472 or 502 powered 123 could be reasonably efficient. Over 20MPG should be easy enough with a carb, let alone what you could do with a Pro-Jection setup from Holley. Mike - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? At current gasoline prices? I am starting to lust after my daughter's Chevy Cavalier. On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess I wouldn't. But on the other hand a Caddy 472 under the hood of a vergasser 123 coupe could be fun.;) -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
76 240D is a 114 or 115, I an not sure which it is the first 3 digits of your chassis number. They are essentially the same. I never figured out what the difference was. 114 may be a short-hood version for 4 cyl engines like 110/111. 110 is a short hood, 4 cyl version. 111 is a long hood, 6 cyl version At 10:19 AM 5/24/2007, you wrote: I am also curious as to the real answer to your question. I guess my comments have helped go astray from that. 115 is what years? Would a 76 240D 4 speed be a 115? I like the 123 chassis much more than any of the others as well. Mike - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? I am not into butchery of 123s. If it won't bolt in, I will look for an engine that will fit. Just a shame if I can't find a use for this nice engine. I butchered my old 66 bronco back in the day. It was a U110 factory ragtop. Had a whole 170 CU. IN, and got 10 mpg. I thought it could not be worse with a 289. Partway into the project, I found out Ford mad a 6 cyl frame and body and an 8 cyl frame and body. Had to butcher both frame and body to put the 289 in. But it did pull like a tractor.. still got 10 MPG. Then I had to butcher a 62 econoline to put the 170 in it. Pre- and post- 1965 drivetrains were completely different, so we put the 66 drivetrain under the 62. At 01:17 PM 5/23/2007, you wrote: Well, I guess I wouldn't. But on the other hand a Caddy 472 under the hood of a vergasser 123 coupe could be fun.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? now why would you ever want to abuse a 123 and do that. On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah.Just need some fab skills, a few good friends, a torch and a welder... Mike - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body? Loren Faeth My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis ... for the right price. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
I have a 500 in my 76 Eldo, I am not sure that thing would fit between the wheel wells of a 123. It is sizable. Now if you took the whole Eldo FWD set up and put it in the back (though you would need some fender flares, like off a dually truck)... --R Mike Canfield wrote: I did say fun right?...Not cheap. Although, with the right cam and attached to a 700R4 automatic, followed up by say, 2.73 or so rear end gearing a 472 or 502 powered 123 could be reasonably efficient. Over 20MPG should be easy enough with a carb, let alone what you could do with a Pro-Jection setup from Holley. Mike
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
the 114s were all gasoline-powered, the 115s were all diesel powered. Indistinguishable from the outside (except badging, and who needs stinkin' badges?) On 5/24/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a 500 in my 76 Eldo, I am not sure that thing would fit between the wheel wells of a 123. It is sizable. Now if you took the whole Eldo FWD set up and put it in the back (though you would need some fender flares, like off a dually truck)... --R Mike Canfield wrote: I did say fun right?...Not cheap. Although, with the right cam and attached to a 700R4 automatic, followed up by say, 2.73 or so rear end gearing a 472 or 502 powered 123 could be reasonably efficient. Over 20MPG should be easy enough with a carb, let alone what you could do with a Pro-Jection setup from Holley. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: #2 is down under $3 while 87 octane is at $3.30+. For the good stuff you are closing in on $3.80 regular unleaded (87) is $3.59 here today. Diesel $2.79. GRIN. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
The 114/115 is the model designations for the midline cars mercedes made beginning with the 1968 model year. Also known as /8. From what I can gather, the 114 is used for smaller displacement petrol cars, and the 115 for the large displacement and diesel cars. On May 24, 2007, at 8:59 AM, Loren Faeth wrote: 76 240D is a 114 or 115, I an not sure which it is the first 3 digits of your chassis number. They are essentially the same. I never figured out what the difference was. 114 may be a short-hood version for 4 cyl engines like 110/111. 110 is a short hood, 4 cyl version. 111 is a long hood, 6 cyl version At 10:19 AM 5/24/2007, you wrote: I am also curious as to the real answer to your question. I guess my comments have helped go astray from that. 115 is what years? Would a 76 240D 4 speed be a 115? I like the 123 chassis much more than any of the others as well. Mike - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? I am not into butchery of 123s. If it won't bolt in, I will look for an engine that will fit. Just a shame if I can't find a use for this nice engine. I butchered my old 66 bronco back in the day. It was a U110 factory ragtop. Had a whole 170 CU. IN, and got 10 mpg. I thought it could not be worse with a 289. Partway into the project, I found out Ford mad a 6 cyl frame and body and an 8 cyl frame and body. Had to butcher both frame and body to put the 289 in. But it did pull like a tractor.. still got 10 MPG. Then I had to butcher a 62 econoline to put the 170 in it. Pre- and post- 1965 drivetrains were completely different, so we put the 66 drivetrain under the 62. At 01:17 PM 5/23/2007, you wrote: Well, I guess I wouldn't. But on the other hand a Caddy 472 under the hood of a vergasser 123 coupe could be fun.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? now why would you ever want to abuse a 123 and do that. On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah.Just need some fab skills, a few good friends, a torch and a welder... Mike - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body? Loren Faeth My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis ... for the right price. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body? Loren Faeth My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis ... for the right price. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil.
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
Nah.Just need some fab skills, a few good friends, a torch and a welder... Mike - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body? Loren Faeth My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis ... for the right price. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
now why would you ever want to abuse a 123 and do that. On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah.Just need some fab skills, a few good friends, a torch and a welder... Mike - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body? Loren Faeth My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis ... for the right price. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
Well, I guess I wouldn't. But on the other hand a Caddy 472 under the hood of a vergasser 123 coupe could be fun.;) Mike - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? now why would you ever want to abuse a 123 and do that. On 5/23/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah.Just need some fab skills, a few good friends, a torch and a welder... Mike - Original Message - From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123? On 5/22/07, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body? Loren Faeth My personal mantra here is ... you can put any engine in any chassis ... for the right price. -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi - for sale [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anybody ever swap a 115 300D into 123?
Building a frankenbenz Last weekend I started the project of stripping my 76 300D (115 body). The engine and transmission are really good, but the body had rotted away. I have been pondering the swap into my 80 240D (123) as I was lifting the engine out, I found the oil filter is near the front of the IP, not at the back of the engine as in the older and newer engines. Anyone BTDT? It looks like the engine might fit, if I use the old style PS pump on the engine, with remote reservoir. That means that I'd either have to use the york compressor, or do without A/c. I despise the york bracket, because you have to take it off to get to a lot of stuff. I had planned to fit the 240Ds accessory bracket (A/C PS) to the other engine. Has anyone ever put a 115 engine into a 123 body? Can anyone tell me if the differential and axles from the 115 will fit on the 123? Has anyone got a junker 123 300D with a good engine? I am going to be listing a bunch of parts for sale in the next few weeks, if you have a 114/115/108, you might watch for it. Loren 76 300D junker 80 240D needing an engine 81 240D and lotsa others Loren Faeth
