Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels
They haven't been out long here so long term its hard to say. Supposed to be very fun cars to drive and quite easy on fuel. If I had that kind of money burning a hole in my pocket I'd probably pick one up. -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:38:23 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork Message-ID: CAC35L=vRxT=+_igge9o_ffbegnndqfqnd8rzftgzdg5ccc-...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My son may want to buy a BMW 335 D to replace his toasted Subaru. Any thoughts as to reliability, etc.? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels
Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? Head gasket was a trouble spot on those. Allan Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: They haven't been out long here so long term its hard to say. Supposed to be very fun cars to drive and quite easy on fuel. If I had that kind of money burning a hole in my pocket I'd probably pick one up. -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:38:23 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork Message-ID: CAC35L=vRxT=+_igge9o_ffbegnndqfqnd8rzftgzdg5ccc-...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My son may want to buy a BMW 335 D to replace his toasted Subaru. Any thoughts as to reliability, etc.? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels
Allan Streib wrote: Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL. Decades apart, in other words. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels
They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now. As you say, The problem diesels are now decades behind them. If there were such problems, I'm sure it would be well reported. Hard to keep such problems quiet with things like YouTube and the internet now. If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on one too. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL. Decades apart, in other words. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels
BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels. Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors. Actually, Peugot produced the first commercialy sold diesel passenger car, ahead of Daimler Benz. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now. As you say, The problem diesels are now decades behind them. If there were such problems, I'm sure it would be well reported. Hard to keep such problems quiet with things like YouTube and the internet now. If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on one too. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL. Decades apart, in other words. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels
The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they? I was always fond of the styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the years. Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no longer are. I really like some of their current offerings too. If they ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels. Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors. Actually, Peugot produced the first commercialy sold diesel passenger car, ahead of Daimler Benz. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now. As you say, The problem diesels are now decades behind them. If there were such problems, I'm sure it would be well reported. Hard to keep such problems quiet with things like YouTube and the internet now. If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on one too. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL. Decades apart, in other words. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels
I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car. The old joke: Heaven Is Where: The French are the chefs The Italians are the lovers The British are the police The Germans are the mechanics And the Swiss make everything run on time Hell is Where: The British are the chefs The Swiss are the lovers The French are the mechanics The Italians make everything run on time And the Germans are the police E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes: The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they? I was always fond of the styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the years. Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no longer are. I really like some of their current offerings too. If they ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels. Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors. Actually, Peugot produced the first commercialy sold diesel passenger car, ahead of Daimler Benz. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now. As you say, The problem diesels are now decades behind them. If there were such problems, I'm sure it would be well reported. Hard to keep such problems quiet with things like YouTube and the internet now. If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on one too. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL. Decades apart, in other words. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels
Boxy, maybe, but they had that strangely slopng rear end. One had to get used to it. Last one I had was a '82. Traded it in for a used 123 in '86 + a ton of cash. Resale value of these cars was zip. When it comes to Ero's, here is my take: Brits - non exist, barely Germans - Over priced and over engineered Italians - the very opposite (except for things on stroids and the latest 500 joke) French - well made affordabele transportation devices My $0.02. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 7:39 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they? I was always fond of the styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the years. Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no longer are. I really like some of their current offerings too. If they ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels. Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors. Actually, Peugot produced the first commercialy sold diesel passenger car, ahead of Daimler Benz. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now. As you say, The problem diesels are now decades behind them. If there were such problems, I'm sure it would be well reported. Hard to keep such problems quiet with things like YouTube and the internet now. If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on one too. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL. Decades apart, in other words. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels
That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for Bugatti and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good French friend in DC and he is one hell of a good shadetree mechanic! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car. The old joke: Heaven Is Where: The French are the chefs The Italians are the lovers The British are the police The Germans are the mechanics And the Swiss make everything run on time Hell is Where: The British are the chefs The Swiss are the lovers The French are the mechanics The Italians make everything run on time And the Germans are the police E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes: The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they? I was always fond of the styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the years. Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no longer are. I really like some of their current offerings too. If they ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels. Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors. Actually, Peugot produced the first commercialy sold diesel passenger car, ahead of Daimler Benz. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now. As you say, The problem diesels are now decades behind them. If there were such problems, I'm sure it would be well reported. Hard to keep such problems quiet with things like YouTube and the internet now. If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on one too. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL. Decades apart, in other words. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels
Notre ami Gael can build a Mercedes from elemental carbon, hydrogen, and iron. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for Bugatti and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good French friend in DC and he is one hell of a good shadetree mechanic! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car. The old joke: Heaven Is Where: The French are the chefs The Italians are the lovers The British are the police The Germans are the mechanics And the Swiss make everything run on time Hell is Where: The British are the chefs The Swiss are the lovers The French are the mechanics The Italians make everything run on time And the Germans are the police E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes: The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they? I was always fond of the styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the years. Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no longer are. I really like some of their current offerings too. If they ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels. Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors. Actually, Peugot produced the first commercialy sold diesel passenger car, ahead of Daimler Benz. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now. As you say, The problem diesels are now decades behind them. If there were such problems, I'm sure it would be well reported. Hard to keep such problems quiet with things like YouTube and the internet now. If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on one too. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL. Decades apart, in other words. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Imagination is one thing. Experience is another. The French can't cook. The Italians do. The Swiss can count money, so do the Germans And the Brits built some of the best looking cars in the past, non of them fit to go past towing distance from the garage. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for Bugatti and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good French friend in DC and he is one hell of a good shadetree mechanic! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car. The old joke: Heaven Is Where: The French are the chefs The Italians are the lovers The British are the police The Germans are the mechanics And the Swiss make everything run on time Hell is Where: The British are the chefs The Swiss are the lovers The French are the mechanics The Italians make everything run on time And the Germans are the police E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes: The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they? I was always fond of the styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the years. Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no longer are. I really like some of their current offerings too. If they ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels. Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors. Actually, Peugot produced the first commercialy sold diesel passenger car, ahead of Daimler Benz. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now. As you say, The problem diesels are now decades behind them. If there were such problems, I'm sure it would be well reported. Hard to keep such problems quiet with things like YouTube and the internet now. If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on one too. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL. Decades apart, in other words. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Who's that guy? (Notre ami Gael ) If I had to build a car (or refrigorator, washmachine, etc.), that's what I'd use. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:20 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Notre ami Gael can build a Mercedes from elemental carbon, hydrogen, and iron. -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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lol, I'll have to copy and save that one! :-) Don't know about the cars though, there are a few I'd love to own. One of my neighbours bought an old DS a few years back, and drives it in the summer. I would love to have that car!!! So advanced for it's time, and is still super cool today. For me, a DS over a Ferrari for coolness any day! :-) I think the French were pretty creative engineers over the years. They had a hand in that plane, the Concorde, and as far as I know, they were the first ones crazy enough to bolt a turbo to an F1 car engine. I saw one of those engines once up close. They only lasted 2 hours, (about as long as any of them lasted) but they were making 1000+ in race trim, and 1200-1400+? in qualifying trim. Not bad for 1.5 litres. And even if you don't like their cars, all is forgive of them, once you taste their wine and cheeses. Their girls are pretty cute too. ;-) Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 20:43, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car. The old joke: Heaven Is Where: The French are the chefs The Italians are the lovers The British are the police The Germans are the mechanics And the Swiss make everything run on time Hell is Where: The British are the chefs The Swiss are the lovers The French are the mechanics The Italians make everything run on time And the Germans are the police E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes: The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they? I was always fond of the styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the years. Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no longer are. I really like some of their current offerings too. If they ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels. Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors. Actually, Peugot produced the first commercialy sold diesel passenger car, ahead of Daimler Benz. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now. As you say, The problem diesels are now decades behind them. If there were such problems, I'm sure it would be well reported. Hard to keep such problems quiet with things like YouTube and the internet now. If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on one too. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL. Decades apart, in other words. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The Bugattis were cool cars, but not so sure they were any wonders of engineering. Not until the Germans from VW came along anyway. Still, they had some cool ideas, and they were pretty committed to the idea of building light cars, like the type 35, when Bentley were building cars there were buses in Bugatti's opinion. Then he built the Royals, which made the Bentleys look like compacts. hee hee. But he never intended those to be race cars. The machine turning on the engines was a nice touch too. The French have built some of the most beautiful cars over the years. I'm pretty sure credit can be given to them, for starting the whole concours thing , which we later turned into cruise night ;-) hee hee Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 21:05, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for Bugatti and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good French friend in DC and he is one hell of a good shadetree mechanic! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car. The old joke: Heaven Is Where: The French are the chefs The Italians are the lovers The British are the police The Germans are the mechanics And the Swiss make everything run on time Hell is Where: The British are the chefs The Swiss are the lovers The French are the mechanics The Italians make everything run on time And the Germans are the police E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes: The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they? I was always fond of the styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the years. Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no longer are. I really like some of their current offerings too. If they ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels. Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors. Actually, Peugot produced the first commercialy sold diesel passenger car, ahead of Daimler Benz. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now. As you say, The problem diesels are now decades behind them. If there were such problems, I'm sure it would be well reported. Hard to keep such problems quiet with things like YouTube and the internet now. If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on one too. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL. Decades apart, in other words. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to
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He's one badass mofo that can fix or make or build or modify anything Mercedes! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Who's that guy? (Notre ami Gael ) If I had to build a car (or refrigorator, washmachine, etc.), that's what I'd use. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:20 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Notre ami Gael can build a Mercedes from elemental carbon, hydrogen, and iron. -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Matra/Simca put a turbo on a 4 cyl F1 about 1965. Rules stipulated that a CAI motor can only be half of the displacement of a NA motor. And they won. My dad hd a '30's? Citroen C 4. What a car! Than he bought a ID 19 (60?, hydraulic suspension, 1-spoke sterring wheel, luminescent roof, what noit). When I watch the show where 'Jane Patrik' drives the DS21, I cry. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:36 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: The Bugattis were cool cars, but not so sure they were any wonders of engineering. Not until the Germans from VW came along anyway. Still, they had some cool ideas, and they were pretty committed to the idea of building light cars, like the type 35, when Bentley were building cars there were buses in Bugatti's opinion. Then he built the Royals, which made the Bentleys look like compacts. hee hee. But he never intended those to be race cars. The machine turning on the engines was a nice touch too. The French have built some of the most beautiful cars over the years. I'm pretty sure credit can be given to them, for starting the whole concours thing , which we later turned into cruise night ;-) hee hee Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 21:05, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for Bugatti and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good French friend in DC and he is one hell of a good shadetree mechanic! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car. The old joke: Heaven Is Where: The French are the chefs The Italians are the lovers The British are the police The Germans are the mechanics And the Swiss make everything run on time Hell is Where: The British are the chefs The Swiss are the lovers The French are the mechanics The Italians make everything run on time And the Germans are the police E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes: The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they? I was always fond of the styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the years. Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no longer are. I really like some of their current offerings too. If they ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels. Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors. Actually, Peugot produced the first commercialy sold diesel passenger car, ahead of Daimler Benz. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now. As you say, The problem diesels are now decades behind them. If there were such problems, I'm sure it would be well reported. Hard to keep such problems quiet with things like YouTube and the internet now. If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on one too. Ed 300E On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Allan Streib wrote: Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL. Decades apart, in other words. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to
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Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: There've been lots of ads... Not around here. Though I've canceled all but basic cable TV so I only see local advertising for the most part. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
