Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I love the smell of PB in the morning. It smells like... victory. 

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> On Jan 27, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Curt sez:
> 
>> ‎Smells awful
> 
> Does it smell worse than PB Blaster?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The more I think about it it might be a Ford product, I'll check when I get 
home.
Curt

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  On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:53 PM, Curley McLain<126die...@gmail.com> wrote:   
I think you are confusing the Mopar spray cans with something else.  It is 
pervasive, but not offensive.  You can wash it off.


   Curt Raymond via Mercedes  January 27, 2018 at 4:21 PM  It's like asking if 
sewage is worse than garbage. They both smell pretty bad but I think the 
Chrysler stuff is even harder to get off...
Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-27 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I think you are confusing the Mopar spray cans with something else.  It 
is pervasive, but not offensive.  You can wash it off.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
January 27, 2018 at 4:21 PM
It's like asking if sewage is worse than garbage. They both smell 
pretty bad but I think the Chrysler stuff is even harder to get off...

Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
It's like asking if sewage is worse than garbage. They both smell pretty bad 
but I think the Chrysler stuff is even harder to get off...
Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   Curt sez:

>‎Smells awful

Does it smell worse than PB Blaster?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-27 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Atf mixed 1:1 with acetone has a good reputation.

On Jan 26, 2018 12:31 PM, "archer75--- via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Hey Dan,
> What is the name of that solvent you use that works so well?
> I've tried WD-40, Aerokroil, PB Blaster, Tal 5, Rust Eater, and Deoxit on
> a brake hose connected to a brake line, and none work. Don't like to use a
> torch unless absolutely necessary.
> Thanks,
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-27 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Curt sez:

>‎Smells awful

Does it smell worse than PB Blaster?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
IIRC POR just discolors in the sun, I don't think it hurts it any

Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   POR 15 always had to have a finish 
coat of paint over the top.  They had 
out a new product that did not need a finish coat.  I don't know the 
name, or if they still make it.

> Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> January 26, 2018 at 6:23 PM
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00H2VVRCU/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8=new
>
> CTI charges $6 shipping on under $50 orders.
> Buy three cans for $57 with free shipping if you can eventually use 
> that many.

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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-27 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I have a can of that I think. Smells awful, works great. I'm serious about the 
smell, I won't use it without gloves, Angie won't go in the garage if the can 
is open...

Curt

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  On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   Mopar rust penetrant from the F.L.  
Dodge Stealer
$8/can  good stuff
> archer75--- via Mercedes 
> January 26, 2018 at 2:30 PM
> Hey Dan,
> What is the name of that solvent you use that works so well?
> I've tried WD-40, Aerokroil, PB Blaster, Tal 5, Rust Eater, and Deoxit 
> on a brake hose connected to a brake line, and none work. Don't like 
> to use a torch unless absolutely necessary.
> Thanks,
> Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-27 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

> Gerry asks:
> 
> >‎BTW, do you know the name of that really >good anti-rust paint I've read 
> >about on >this list?
> 
> This stuff?
> 
> ‎http://www.hirschauto.com/Miracle-Paint-Rust-Killer/products/3/
> 
> Rick
...
POR-15 is what I was trying to remember, but I'll keep this in mind for future 
reference.
Thanks,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-27 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
 archer75 wrote:
> > BTW, do you know the name of that really good anti-rust paint I've read 
> > about on this list? I want to paint the tin roof on the storage shed since 
> > it's getting a little rusty.
. 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00H2VVRCU/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8=new
> 
> CTI charges $6 shipping on under $50 orders. 
> Buy three cans for $57 with free shipping if you can eventually use that many.

> If it's going on a tin roof in Florida, you might want silver instead of 
> satin black. 
> Not all vendors carry all colors, but if you buy direct you can have any 
> color. 

> https://www.por15.com/POR-15_4_Quart_Special

Mitch

That's what I was trying to remember.
Thanks, Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes


> > archer75--- wrote:

> > BTW, do you know the name of that really good anti-rust paint
> > I've read about on this list? I want to paint the tin roof on
> > the storage shed since it's getting a little rusty.
> 
> Not rust-proofing, but Coroseal is what I've been using to convert
> the rust to paintable primer.
> 
> http://www.corroseal.com/
> https://www.amazon.com/Corroseal-82331-Water-Based-Converter-Gallon/dp/B00RYRJGXO/
> 
> Good stuff.

> fmiser

That's interesting since it uses tannic acid to convert rust to iron tannate. 
IIRC the old method used phosphoric acid to convert rust, but that didn't hold 
up very well in my experience.
Thanks,
Gerry 


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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> archer75--- wrote:


> BTW, do you know the name of that really good anti-rust paint
> I've read about on this list? I want to paint the tin roof on
> the storage shed since it's getting a little rusty.

Not rust-proofing, but Coroseal is what I've been using to convert
the rust to paintable primer.

http://www.corroseal.com/
https://www.amazon.com/Corroseal-82331-Water-Based-Converter-Gallon/dp/B00RYRJGXO/

Good stuff.

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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Gerry asks:

>‎BTW, do you know the name of that really >good anti-rust paint I've read 
>about on >this list?

This stuff?

‎http://www.hirschauto.com/Miracle-Paint-Rust-Killer/products/3/

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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
POR 15 always had to have a finish coat of paint over the top.  They had 
out a new product that did not need a finish coat.  I don't know the 
name, or if they still make it.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
January 26, 2018 at 6:23 PM

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00H2VVRCU/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8=new

CTI charges $6 shipping on under $50 orders.
Buy three cans for $57 with free shipping if you can eventually use 
that many.


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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
If it's going on a tin roof in Florida, you might want silver instead of satin 
black. 
Not all vendors carry all colors, but if you buy direct you can have any color. 
https://www.por15.com/POR-15_4_Quart_Special

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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

> On January 26, 2018 at 6:02 PM archer75--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> BTW, do you know the name of that really good anti-rust paint I've read about 
> on this list? I want to paint the tin roof on the storage shed since it's 
> getting a little rusty.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00H2VVRCU/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8=new

CTI charges $6 shipping on under $50 orders. 
Buy three cans for $57 with free shipping if you can eventually use that many.

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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

Curley McLain wrote:
> Mopar rust penetrant from the F.L.  Dodge Stealer
> $8/can  good stuff

Thanks Curley.
Gerry

> > archer75--- via Mercedes 
> > January 26, 2018 at 2:30 PM
> > Hey Dan,
> > What is the name of that solvent you use that works so well?
> > I've tried WD-40, Aerokroil, PB Blaster, Tal 5, Rust Eater, and Deoxit 
> > on a brake hose connected to a brake line, and none work. Don't like 
> > to use a torch unless absolutely necessary.
> > Thanks,
> > Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Mopar rust penetrant from the F.L.  Dodge Stealer
$8/can  good stuff

archer75--- via Mercedes 
January 26, 2018 at 2:30 PM
Hey Dan,
What is the name of that solvent you use that works so well?
I've tried WD-40, Aerokroil, PB Blaster, Tal 5, Rust Eater, and Deoxit 
on a brake hose connected to a brake line, and none work. Don't like 
to use a torch unless absolutely necessary.

Thanks,
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
This one isn't rusty, it's just stuck. Stuff rusts in Florida, what with the 
high humidity in the long summers, but since we don't salt the roads, metal 
doesn't rust like it does in the far north.

BTW, do you know the name of that really good anti-rust paint I've read about 
on this list? I want to paint the tin roof on the storage shed since it's 
getting a little rusty.

> Heck Gerry you're in Florida. 
> I thought that stuff didn't rust in Florida
> Rick
> Who will not buy many more rust belt cars‎
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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Heck Gerry you're in Florida. 
I thought that stuff didn't rust in Florida

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 22:22:15 +
Fred Moir via Mercedes  wrote:

> Gerry.
> Hoses are cheap.
> I usually release the clip or retainer, freeing the hose, and unscrew the 
> hose from the line.
> After that the line end can be heated to release the nut from the tubing 
> itself.
> YMMV.
> Fred.
.
Thanks Fred. I'll keep that in mind if I have to heat it.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Gerry.

Hoses are cheap.

I usually release the clip or retainer, freeing the hose, and unscrew the hose 
from the line.

After that the line end can be heated to release the nut from the tubing itself.

Replace the hose with new, and Bob's your uncle and Fanny's your aunt.

YMMV.

Fred.


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That might be the best thing to do. I was going to save the hose in case the 
new one got cross-threaded, and because the old one was still in pretty good 
shape, but I vaguely recall someone having a similar problem years ago.
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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:47:34 -0600
Randy Bennell via Mercedes  wrote:

> On 26/01/2018 2:30 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > Hey Dan,
> > What is the name of that solvent you use that works so well?
> > I've tried WD-40, Aerokroil, PB Blaster, Tal 5, Rust Eater, and Deoxit on a 
> > brake hose connected to a brake line, and none work. Don't like to use a 
> > torch unless absolutely necessary.
> > Thanks,
> > Gerry
> >
> Some folks claim that a mixture of ATF and Acetone is the best. I have 
> had a difficult time keeping them well mixed.
> Not much point in making up much of it either as the Acetone will 
> evaporate out of it.
> 
> RB

I tried that on some very rusty parts with no luck, but since these brake parts 
are not rusty, it might work better. Still have a small bottle with the mixture 
in it, but since the acetone might be exaporated, I'll mix up a fresh batch and 
try it.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
That might be the best thing to do. I was going to save the hose in case the 
new one got cross-threaded, and because the old one was still in pretty good 
shape, but I vaguely recall someone having a similar problem years ago.
Thanks,
Gerry

> If you are going to heat it, then cut the hose off first. Your are not 
> going to re-use it anyway, I assume.
> I had one blow off and am happy it did not hit me or spray me with hot 
> brake fluid.
> 
> RB
> 
> 
> On 26/01/2018 2:30 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > Hey Dan,
> > What is the name of that solvent you use that works so well?
> > I've tried WD-40, Aerokroil, PB Blaster, Tal 5, Rust Eater, and Deoxit on a 
> > brake hose connected to a brake line, and none work. Don't like to use a 
> > torch unless absolutely necessary.
> > Thanks,
> > Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 26/01/2018 2:30 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Hey Dan,
What is the name of that solvent you use that works so well?
I've tried WD-40, Aerokroil, PB Blaster, Tal 5, Rust Eater, and Deoxit on a 
brake hose connected to a brake line, and none work. Don't like to use a torch 
unless absolutely necessary.
Thanks,
Gerry

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Some folks claim that a mixture of ATF and Acetone is the best. I have 
had a difficult time keeping them well mixed.
Not much point in making up much of it either as the Acetone will 
evaporate out of it.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
If you are going to heat it, then cut the hose off first. Your are not 
going to re-use it anyway, I assume.
I had one blow off and am happy it did not hit me or spray me with hot 
brake fluid.


RB


On 26/01/2018 2:30 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Hey Dan,
What is the name of that solvent you use that works so well?
I've tried WD-40, Aerokroil, PB Blaster, Tal 5, Rust Eater, and Deoxit on a 
brake hose connected to a brake line, and none work. Don't like to use a torch 
unless absolutely necessary.
Thanks,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If Kroil won’t budge it, you’re going to have to get the blue flame wrench out, 
sorry.

-D


> On Jan 26, 2018, at 3:30 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
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> 
> Hey Dan,
> What is the name of that solvent you use that works so well?
> I've tried WD-40, Aerokroil, PB Blaster, Tal 5, Rust Eater, and Deoxit on a 
> brake hose connected to a brake line, and none work. Don't like to use a 
> torch unless absolutely necessary.
> Thanks,
> Gerry
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[MBZ] Best rust and corrosion solvent

2018-01-26 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Hey Dan,
What is the name of that solvent you use that works so well?
I've tried WD-40, Aerokroil, PB Blaster, Tal 5, Rust Eater, and Deoxit on a 
brake hose connected to a brake line, and none work. Don't like to use a torch 
unless absolutely necessary.
Thanks,
Gerry

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