[MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
John, Sorry for the late reply, catching up on digest. My understanding of the problem is that the glowplug design or the head design is faulty and allows a ring of carbon to form that is too big to fit out of the hole that the glow-plug must. You need to apply a good penetrating oil that will attack and loosen the carbon. On the plugs which are not broken, work them back and forth in small degrees, gently gently gently, let the penetrant work, expect to take all day to remove the plugs. If you can let penetrant soak overnight, the better. I fear that on the broken plug, you will need to remove the head. You can try the penetrant now (it will reach the offending carbon much more easily!) as it may help enough to all the easy-out to work. Super duper industrial strength stuff call 'Berryman's chemtool' may be a good choice (Pep Boys supposedly carrys it) , but you WILL need to change the engine oil after. http://www.berrymanproducts.com/ -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
Andrew wrote: The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly. Different strokes - I think the 123 wagon is good looking. It has a certain country home status symbol look to it. But, I think the 124 is better looking - especially the last few years when they had all the upgrades. The best looking 124 is the 95 in my opinion. I also really like the 124 Coupe. But, the best looking (of the modern cars) is the 126 coupe. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
You prefer the 123 wagon as a highway car only because you have never owned an SDL. I like the 123 wagon, but I have grown to like the 124 300TD better. There were less than 2000 imported to the US, so they will always be a collectible car in the US. At 07:58 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote: My advice for everybody who hasn't yet driven an MB wagon is to make sure you get the opportunity. I've never driven a 124 wagon but the 123 wagon is by far the smoothest car I've ever driven. The 300TD is a bit pokey off the line, the turbo (on mine anyway) took a second to spool but what a wonderful highway car. When my wife and I make our cross country drive a 300TD is the #1 preferred car by both of us. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:45:41 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I wouldn't go so far as to assign value based on the 'looks', but I do agree - they are ugly cars. They are much better driven than looked at. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:33 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Does the SDL have SLS? Its the SLS that makes the wagon amazing... Not normally, but I believe it could be ordered with it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have seen several 126 gassers with it. I always thaought a 126 with hydraulic suspension would be nice. However a 126 on springs is still as good as or better riding than a 123 with SLS. I've had both; several 123 wagons. The 126 wins, hands down. At 10:04 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote: Does the SDL have SLS? Its the SLS that makes the wagon amazing... Not normally, but I believe it could be ordered with it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Does the SDL have SLS? Its the SLS that makes the wagon amazing... I did mention before that Marshall said the 124 wagon was more refined than the 123 and a better road car. I also mentioned I figured my 201 and Dwight's 124 are more refined than my 123 so I'd suppose Marshall is right. I've never driven a 124 wagon though. Theres one for sale not far from here. Maybe I should dump my 240D (in the near to mid term plan) and get that. -Curt --- On Wed, 11/12/08, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 10:14 AM You prefer the 123 wagon as a highway car only because you have never owned an SDL. I like the 123 wagon, but I have grown to like the 124 300TD better. There were less than 2000 imported to the US, so they will always be a collectible car in the US. At 07:58 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote: My advice for everybody who hasn't yet driven an MB wagon is to make sure you get the opportunity. I've never driven a 124 wagon but the 123 wagon is by far the smoothest car I've ever driven. The 300TD is a bit pokey off the line, the turbo (on mine anyway) took a second to spool but what a wonderful highway car. When my wife and I make our cross country drive a 300TD is the #1 preferred car by both of us. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:45:41 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I wouldn't go so far as to assign value based on the 'looks', but I do agree - they are ugly cars. They are much better driven than looked at. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:33 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb wrote: I still have another one I need to get going, either taht or sell it. Im fixing to liquidate quite a few members of my fleet. Is it a 124 300D 2.5? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Which will be collectible - the 124 wagon? If so then why are their prices lower compared to the more plentifull W123 wagons? On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: You prefer the 123 wagon as a highway car only because you have never owned an SDL. I like the 123 wagon, but I have grown to like the 124 300TD better. There were less than 2000 imported to the US, so they will always be a collectible car in the US. At 07:58 AM 11/12/2008, you wrote: My advice for everybody who hasn't yet driven an MB wagon is to make sure you get the opportunity. I've never driven a 124 wagon but the 123 wagon is by far the smoothest car I've ever driven. The 300TD is a bit pokey off the line, the turbo (on mine anyway) took a second to spool but what a wonderful highway car. When my wife and I make our cross country drive a 300TD is the #1 preferred car by both of us. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:45:41 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I wouldn't go so far as to assign value based on the 'looks', but I do agree - they are ugly cars. They are much better driven than looked at. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:33 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
My advice for everybody who hasn't yet driven an MB wagon is to make sure you get the opportunity. I've never driven a 124 wagon but the 123 wagon is by far the smoothest car I've ever driven. The 300TD is a bit pokey off the line, the turbo (on mine anyway) took a second to spool but what a wonderful highway car. When my wife and I make our cross country drive a 300TD is the #1 preferred car by both of us. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:45:41 -0600 From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I wouldn't go so far as to assign value based on the 'looks', but I do agree - they are ugly cars. They are much better driven than looked at. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:33 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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what the heck are you talking about? Wherever you are finding these 124 diesel wagons that are cheaper than 123 diesel wagons, let me know so I can buy them. andrew strasfogel wrote: Which will be collectible - the 124 wagon? If so then why are their prices lower compared to the more plentifull W123 wagons? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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yes Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: I still have another one I need to get going, either taht or sell it. Im fixing to liquidate quite a few members of my fleet. Is it a 124 300D 2.5? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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LarryT wrote: I've had good luck with left handed drill bits - often will break the fastener loose while drilling - (vibrations?) and use a lubricant while drilling. I think it's more shrinkage as the male threads weaken and collapse when you hollow the bolt out. If you can get dead center, and drill slightly smaller than the threads, chances of success are very high. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I am also a big fan of the s123 but Marshall said the s124 was more refined, powerful and economical to drive. I've never driven one but I know how much more refined my w201 is than my w123 and having driven Dwight's w124 consider it the same. I'd love another s123 but would want one in considerably better condition than my old one. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:48:05 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would have to respectfully disagree. The best MB diesel ever made was the W23 turbodiesel wagon. What a great combination of durability, fuel economy, practicality, and pure driving pleasure. Andrew (who is deeply biased) 1983 300TD, 320 K miles (200 k miles drive train). On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb wrote: Its a common problem on those cars. The head has to come off in order to repair it. Seriously? DAMN! I really like those cars. But, that sounds like a bad problem. I don't have the time or the expertise to be pulling heads. I should have kept the old 300D 2.5. I am starting to wonder if they weren't the best diesels Mercedes ever made. I like the looks of the later models - 95 diesels, but don't they have evap problems and bad wiring? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I would have to respectfully disagree. The best MB diesel ever made was the W23 turbodiesel wagon. What a great combination of durability, fuel economy, practicality, and pure driving pleasure. Andrew (who is deeply biased) 1983 300TD, 320 K miles (200 k miles drive train). On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb wrote: Its a common problem on those cars. The head has to come off in order to repair it. Seriously? DAMN! I really like those cars. But, that sounds like a bad problem. I don't have the time or the expertise to be pulling heads. I should have kept the old 300D 2.5. I am starting to wonder if they weren't the best diesels Mercedes ever made. I like the looks of the later models - 95 diesels, but don't they have evap problems and bad wiring? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Kaleb wrote: Its a common problem on those cars. The head has to come off in order to repair it. Seriously? DAMN! I really like those cars. But, that sounds like a bad problem. I don't have the time or the expertise to be pulling heads. I should have kept the old 300D 2.5. I am starting to wonder if they weren't the best diesels Mercedes ever made. I like the looks of the later models - 95 diesels, but don't they have evap problems and bad wiring? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've had good luck with left handed drill bits - often will break the fastener loose while drilling - (vibrations?) and use a lubricant while drilling. Once the GP is out perhaps you can find a way to get any fillings out - perhaps a magnet? I have a magnet on a long rod - screw starter on one end, magnet on the other. About the diameter of a pencil - Sears sells them - Sincerely, Larry T (74 911, 91 300D 2.5T) www.youroil.net Oil Analysis Kits Porsche Posters/Weber parts . - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:29 PM Subject: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs A friend has a '99 E300D, and one of the glow plugs has broken off in the head, and the other won't budge. The one that broke, broke right after the 12mm head that you use to remove it. We've drilled out a hole in the center so that we can tap it with an M7 or M8 to pull the plug out. The only (hah!) problem is the GP is still engaged to the threads... my idea was to drill as close to the threads as possible. Hopefully when we pull the glowplug it won't strip the threads in the head. We haven't really fooled with the other one all that much... we're waiting to see how bad we screw this first one up... Any ideas? I've researched this on the internet, and this seems to be par for the course... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've never driven a 123 wagon, but from the 115 300D, 123 240D, 126 300SDL, and 107 450SLC, only the SLC comes close to driving as nicely as the 124 2300D 2.5T. The 124 gets twice as many miles per gallon as the SLC, has a usable rear seat, and twice the runk capacity. I've not driven a newer Benz, but in my experience (and preferences) the '90 to '93 124 300D 2.5T is the ultimate daily driver Benz - which is why I've collected two of them, and sold/traded the rest. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am also a big fan of the s123 but Marshall said the s124 was more refined, powerful and economical to drive. I've never driven one but I know how much more refined my w201 is than my w123 and having driven Dwight's w124 consider it the same. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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damn [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK Don wrote: I've never driven a 123 wagon, but from the 115 300D, 123 240D, 126 300SDL, and 107 450SLC, only the SLC comes close to driving as nicely as the 124 2300D 2.5T. The 124 gets twice as many miles per gallon as the SLC, has a usable rear seat, and twice the runk capacity. I've not driven a newer Benz, but in my experience (and preferences) the '90 to '93 124 300D 2.5T is the ultimate daily driver Benz - which is why I've collected two of them, and sold/traded the rest. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am also a big fan of the s123 but Marshall said the s124 was more refined, powerful and economical to drive. I've never driven one but I know how much more refined my w201 is than my w123 and having driven Dwight's w124 consider it the same. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You were a free and willing partner --- and have more to look forward to fixing up for me! On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You were a free and willing partner --- and have more to look forward to fixing up for me! On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I wouldn't go so far as to assign value based on the 'looks', but I do agree - they are ugly cars. They are much better driven than looked at. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:33 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I still have another one I need to get going, either taht or sell it. Im fixing to liquidate quite a few members of my fleet. OK Don wrote: You were a free and willing partner --- and have more to look forward to fixing up for me! On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
Please advise when you no. longer storw hours Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:33:24 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly. On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:24 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You were a free and willing partner --- and have more to look forward to fixing up for me! On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 8:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damn [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
The 124 may be Mashall-vertified as better than the W123 wagon, but they aren't worth sh*t because they look so ugly. I like the 124 wagon, I think it looks great. It's the other two 124's that stink. Ugly butts. If only we'd got a diesel wagon 4matic that was worth a crap in the US. That might be all we'd have up here on this hill, and I don't mean just our family. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
Its a common problem on those cars. The head has to come off in order to repair it. John Robbins wrote: A friend has a '99 E300D, and one of the glow plugs has broken off in the head, and the other won't budge. The one that broke, broke right after the 12mm head that you use to remove it. We've drilled out a hole in the center so that we can tap it with an M7 or M8 to pull the plug out. The only (hah!) problem is the GP is still engaged to the threads... my idea was to drill as close to the threads as possible. Hopefully when we pull the glowplug it won't strip the threads in the head. We haven't really fooled with the other one all that much... we're waiting to see how bad we screw this first one up... Any ideas? I've researched this on the internet, and this seems to be par for the course... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
A friend has a '99 E300D, and one of the glow plugs has broken off in the head, and the other won't budge. The one that broke, broke right after the 12mm head that you use to remove it. We've drilled out a hole in the center so that we can tap it with an M7 or M8 to pull the plug out. The only (hah!) problem is the GP is still engaged to the threads... my idea was to drill as close to the threads as possible. Hopefully when we pull the glowplug it won't strip the threads in the head. We haven't really fooled with the other one all that much... we're waiting to see how bad we screw this first one up... Any ideas? I've researched this on the internet, and this seems to be par for the course... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:15:50 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its a common problem on those cars. The head has to come off in order to repair it. Does that mean one should use anti-seize on the glow plug threads? Craig John Robbins wrote: A friend has a '99 E300D, and one of the glow plugs has broken off in the head, and the other won't budge. The one that broke, broke right after the 12mm head that you use to remove it. We've drilled out a hole in the center so that we can tap it with an M7 or M8 to pull the plug out. The only (hah!) problem is the GP is still engaged to the threads... my idea was to drill as close to the threads as possible. Hopefully when we pull the glowplug it won't strip the threads in the head. We haven't really fooled with the other one all that much... we're waiting to see how bad we screw this first one up... Any ideas? I've researched this on the internet, and this seems to be par for the course... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 250 kmi 1994 E420 117 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D/8 1972 220/8 1987 190E/2.3 /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Friends don't send friends X AGAINST HTML MAIL HTML email. / \ AND POSTINGS http://www.fred.net/tds/longrange.html http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
I've replaced the glow plugs on my wife's 99 E300 twice. Used the aluminum anti-seize both times with no ill effects thus far. -Dave Walton On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:15:50 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its a common problem on those cars. The head has to come off in order to repair it. Does that mean one should use anti-seize on the glow plug threads? Craig John Robbins wrote: A friend has a '99 E300D, and one of the glow plugs has broken off in the head, and the other won't budge. The one that broke, broke right after the 12mm head that you use to remove it. We've drilled out a hole in the center so that we can tap it with an M7 or M8 to pull the plug out. The only (hah!) problem is the GP is still engaged to the threads... my idea was to drill as close to the threads as possible. Hopefully when we pull the glowplug it won't strip the threads in the head. We haven't really fooled with the other one all that much... we're waiting to see how bad we screw this first one up... Any ideas? I've researched this on the internet, and this seems to be par for the course... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.0/1779 - Release Date: 11/10/2008 7:53 AM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 250 kmi 1994 E420 117 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D/8 1972 220/8 1987 190E/2.3 /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Friends don't send friends X AGAINST HTML MAIL HTML email. / \ AND POSTINGS http://www.fred.net/tds/longrange.html http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Broken OM606 Glowplugs
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Its a common problem on those cars. The head has to come off in order to repair it. Over on MB Shop they've accumulated quite the list of people who've fixed it with the head on the car... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
