Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-21 Thread Rich Thomas
It looks like a dog peed on the left rear tire.

--R

Robert Rentfro wrote:
 What do you reckon is wrong with this?

  

  

 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html

  

  

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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-21 Thread Gary Thompson
Oooh, in that case, there's no way it's worth that kinda money. I'd
only go $1049.


Gary Thompson


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 It looks like a dog peed on the left rear tire.

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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-21 Thread Curt Raymond

If its really got less than 100,000 miles I'd guess the thermostat is stuck 
open and its all carboned up.
I'd offer him $800, haul it home, diesel purge and run a tank or two through it 
on the highway in 4th.
Mine smoked some when I first got it. I did the above and now it hardly smokes 
at all.

-Curt

Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:39:37 -0700
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What do you reckon is wrong with this?

 

 

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html

 

 

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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-21 Thread Curt Raymond

This is one I'd be prepared to drive back across the country. That'd get the 
carbon out of it.

Of course I'm setting my plan for Sunday welding up the jack points on my 190D. 
It'll be my first time welding on a car...

-Curt

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I've emailed the dude...we'll see what he says.

Bob R. 

   
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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
probably a blown head gasket, or at least the start of one.

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 What do you reckon is wrong with this?
 
 
 
 
 
 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-21 Thread Marshall Booth
Robert Rentfro wrote:
 What do you reckon is wrong with this?
 
  
 
  
 
 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html
 

B\Almost surely a blown head gasket between the #1 piston and the chain 
vault Rather common with early OM60x engines.

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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-21 Thread Luther
Kaleb, up for a road trip and repair??  I'm off Thurs-Sat.

On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:39:37 -0500, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What do you reckon is wrong with this?



 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html



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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-21 Thread Hendrik
That is my feeling too, if as described it all of a sudden started 
blowing blue/black smoke, which means one or more cylinders is not 
firing properly (black smoke) and oil is getting into a combustion 
chamber (blue smoke).
If it was valve stem seals or cylinder rings it is usually a gradual 
process.
However replacing a head gasket is no biggy (especially on a non turbo 
engine) and any good DIYer should be able to do it, or take it to a good 
indy.
Also while the head is off you can inspect the piston bores to judge 
their condition, given the mileage they should be perfect. Once that is 
fixed you have a nice cheap to run car, which with a manual should be 
good to drive.

Marshall Booth wrote:
   

 B\Almost surely a blown head gasket between the #1 piston and the chain 
 vault Rather common with early OM60x engines.

 Marshall
   

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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I am only off sat and sun

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 Kaleb, up for a road trip and repair??  I'm off Thurs-Sat.

 On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:39:37 -0500, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:

 What do you reckon is wrong with this?



 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html



 Bob R




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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-21 Thread Robert Rentfro
Given the price vs. the cost of repair (head gasket)...and what it is, do
you think it's a decent seal, Herr Doktor?

Bob R



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Robert Rentfro wrote:
 What do you reckon is wrong with this?
 
  
 
  
 
 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html
 

B\Almost surely a blown head gasket between the #1 piston and the chain 
vault Rather common with early OM60x engines.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-21 Thread Marshall Booth
Robert Rentfro wrote:
 Given the price vs. the cost of repair (head gasket)...and what it is, do
 you think it's a decent seal, Herr Doktor?
 
 Bob R

Could be - if the AC works. Could easily cost over $1000. Figure well 
over $500 for someone knowledgeable to the the head gasket.

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[MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-20 Thread Robert Rentfro
What do you reckon is wrong with this?

 

 

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html

 

 

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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-20 Thread John Robbins
Robert Rentfro wrote:
 What do you reckon is wrong with this?
  
 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html

You haven't found a trailer to bring it home with yet? ;)


Seriously though... not a clue...


John






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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-20 Thread Robert Rentfro
I could get a trailer...seems reasonable for a rust free, lower mileage, 
5 speed. Just wasn't sure what could cause sudden black smoke like he
describes.

Bob R

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Robert Rentfro wrote:
 What do you reckon is wrong with this?
  
 http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html

You haven't found a trailer to bring it home with yet? ;)


Seriously though... not a clue...


John






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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-20 Thread Hendrik
Black smoke is no problem for a Diesel, when it is blue or white 
then.
I guess Dr Diesel will have more of a clue than me but blue smoke means 
the engine is burning oil, do a google for blue black smoke diesel and 
take it from there.
It may be just valve stems or piston rings/glazing.
Wish I could find a Diesel 5 speed that cheap, wish I could find a MB 
Diesel that cheap period.

Robert Rentfro wrote:
 I could get a trailer...seems reasonable for a rust free, lower mileage, 
 5 speed. Just wasn't sure what could cause sudden black smoke like he
 describes.

 Bob R
   

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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-20 Thread JFreezn
 
In a message dated 8/20/2007 7:40:09 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What do  you reckon is wrong with  this?





http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html



Bob,
 
Could be as simple as a stuck open EGR valve, or a hole in the vacuum pump  
diaphragm.  worst case would be blown piston with broken rings, maybe  caused 
by A high altitude starting problem, escalated by using starting  fluid, ete, 
etc, etc!  A nice clean project car though.
 
regards  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
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98 ML 320, 151 K  miles




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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-20 Thread Zoltan Finks
Maybe a dent on the passenger side?

Too bad we already settled for our AT 190, or I would be contacting this guy.

Brian

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Re: [MBZ] CL 190D 5speed in AZ

2007-08-20 Thread Robert Rentfro
I've emailed the dude...we'll see what he says.

Bob R. 

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In a message dated 8/20/2007 7:40:09 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

What do  you reckon is wrong with  this?





http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/400626863.html



Bob,
 
Could be as simple as a stuck open EGR valve, or a hole in the vacuum pump  
diaphragm.  worst case would be blown piston with broken rings, maybe
caused 
by A high altitude starting problem, escalated by using starting  fluid,
ete, 
etc, etc!  A nice clean project car though.
 
regards  

Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 267 K miles 
98 ML 320, 151 K  miles




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