Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-24 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
-Curt wrote:
> Another one:
> If Congress didn't steal TSA money we'd have shorter lines at the airport...

Does anyone verify this information?
TSA money and Social Security?
Perhaps we can add in FED Private Bank?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-24 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Another one:
If Congress didn't steal TSA money we'd have shorter lines at the airport...
-Curt

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On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 00:27:15 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Congress regularly steals from Social Security, it'd be a lot more
> solvent if they didn't... -Curt

Truer words were never spoken.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-23 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 00:27:15 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Congress regularly steals from Social Security, it'd be a lot more
> solvent if they didn't... -Curt

Truer words were never spoken.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You pay into Social Security, its YOUR money, not the government's.Congress 
regularly steals from Social Security, it'd be a lot more solvent if they 
didn't...
-Curt

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-Curt wrote:
> Does that number include retirees? Social Security isn't "riding the wagon" 
> really...

...really...
Yes, really.
Wasn't that SSI taking assimilated in to the 20T national debt years ago?
mao


   
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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-22 Thread clay via Mercedes
Used to be we could just take a miscreant out back and shoot ‘em.  That helped 
the rest of the folks consider following in the miscreants foot steps in 
future.Now we have micro aggressions and safe zones.  Maybe we go back to 
shooting the miscreants so the laws will have some teeth.  Works well in banana 
republics, until the bleeding hearts get involved.

clay



> On Oct 22, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> Craig via Mercedes 
>> October 22, 2016 at 4:07 PM
>> On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:32:18 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>>   wrote:
>> 
>>> The root cause is the belief that it's possible and desirable to
>>> legislate morality.
>> 
>> 
>> Every law legislates someone's morality.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
> Nearly half the people of this country are now riding in the wagon, not 
> pulling it.  A good percentage of those have learned from the klin-tons that 
> laws "don't apply to them."
> 
> A large percentage of people in CHit ca go believe the laws "don't apply to 
> them."
> 
> all the illegals know they can scoff at the law.
> 
> everyone in the drug industry knows the laws "don't apply to them."
> 
> All these categories have large overlap.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-22 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
-Curt wrote:
> Does that number include retirees? Social Security isn't "riding the wagon" 
> really...

...really...
Yes, really.
Wasn't that SSI taking assimilated in to the 20T national debt years ago?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Does that number include retirees? Social Security isn't "riding the wagon" 
really...
-Curt


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> Craig via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> October 22, 2016 at 4:07 PM
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:32:18 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com>  wrote:
>
>> The root cause is the belief that it's possible and desirable to
>> legislate morality.
>
>
> Every law legislates someone's morality.
>
>
> Craig
>
Nearly half the people of this country are now riding in the wagon, not 
pulling it.  A good percentage of those have learned from the klin-tons 
that laws "don't apply to them."

A large percentage of people in CHit ca go believe the laws "don't apply 
to them."

all the illegals know they can scoff at the law.

everyone in the drug industry knows the laws "don't apply to them."

All these categories have large overlap.


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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-22 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes




Craig via Mercedes 
October 22, 2016 at 4:07 PM
On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:32:18 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
  wrote:


The root cause is the belief that it's possible and desirable to
legislate morality.



Every law legislates someone's morality.


Craig

Nearly half the people of this country are now riding in the wagon, not 
pulling it.  A good percentage of those have learned from the klin-tons 
that laws "don't apply to them."


A large percentage of people in CHit ca go believe the laws "don't apply 
to them."


all the illegals know they can scoff at the law.

everyone in the drug industry knows the laws "don't apply to them."

All these categories have large overlap.


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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-22 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:32:18 -0400 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The root cause is the belief that it's possible and desirable to
> legislate morality.


Every law legislates someone's morality.


Craig


> > -Original Message-
> > From: G Mann
> > 
> > Drug overdose takes far more lives per day than illegal use of guns by
> gang
> > bangers.. Of course, the gang bangers source of income is very
> > often... pushing drugs... so the winner in this Darwin Award contest
> > is ???
> > 
> > It presents a complex set of problems and issues. None of which have
> > been solved by government programs, or gang banger shootings.. the
> > root cause is.. ???
> > 
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-22 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
No amount of laws (old or new) will work if you don't enforce them.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes Andrew> Strasfogel via Mercedes
> 
> The hypothesis is that there are way too many shootings in Chicago - or
> maybe that's a fact?  I'm just hunting (no pun intended) for a
solution(s).
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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-22 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
The root cause is the belief that it's possible and desirable to legislate
morality.

> -Original Message-
> From: G Mann
> 
> Drug overdose takes far more lives per day than illegal use of guns by
gang
> bangers.. Of course, the gang bangers source of income is very often...
> pushing drugs... so the winner in this Darwin Award contest is ???
> 
> It presents a complex set of problems and issues. None of which have been
> solved by government programs, or gang banger shootings.. the root cause
> is.. ???
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I have no problem with you, Grant, despite everything.

My Mercedes hobby goes back 34 years, which is amazing considering how
little real DIY tech skill I possess.  To illustrate with an analogy:
Dimitri is to Thomas Edison as I am to Fred Flintstone.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 6:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Andrew, just for the record, I respect you.
>
> Even though we as individuals take different view points on issues, and
> your view and mine seldom are the same in the political world, you are,
> none the less resolute in your beliefs.
>
> Besides, you're a Mercedes guy.. you can't be all bad.
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Insults won't buy your guy any more votes.  At least I don't hide behind
> an
> > alias.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > knives, pipes, baseball bats, brickbats, tire irons, lug wrenches,
> monkey
> > > wrenches, poison, drowning, beating, fire, machetes, shovels, rakes,
> > hoes,
> > > rope, chain, ...   the list goes on and on.  If one tool is not
> > available,
> > > the clowns will find another.
> > >
> > > You ask stupid questions to divert attention away from the fact that an
> > > armed populace is much safer than a chit ca go or a District of
> > > Congresscritters  with a mostly disarmed citizenry.
> > >
> > >> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > >> October 20, 2016 at 1:23 PM
> > >> So if you take away their guns how would they kill each other? By
> > >> spreading zica virus?
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Andrew, just for the record, I respect you.

Even though we as individuals take different view points on issues, and
your view and mine seldom are the same in the political world, you are,
none the less resolute in your beliefs.

Besides, you're a Mercedes guy.. you can't be all bad.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Insults won't buy your guy any more votes.  At least I don't hide behind an
> alias.
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > knives, pipes, baseball bats, brickbats, tire irons, lug wrenches, monkey
> > wrenches, poison, drowning, beating, fire, machetes, shovels, rakes,
> hoes,
> > rope, chain, ...   the list goes on and on.  If one tool is not
> available,
> > the clowns will find another.
> >
> > You ask stupid questions to divert attention away from the fact that an
> > armed populace is much safer than a chit ca go or a District of
> > Congresscritters  with a mostly disarmed citizenry.
> >
> >> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >> October 20, 2016 at 1:23 PM
> >> So if you take away their guns how would they kill each other? By
> >> spreading zica virus?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Insults won't buy your guy any more votes.  At least I don't hide behind an
alias.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> knives, pipes, baseball bats, brickbats, tire irons, lug wrenches, monkey
> wrenches, poison, drowning, beating, fire, machetes, shovels, rakes, hoes,
> rope, chain, ...   the list goes on and on.  If one tool is not available,
> the clowns will find another.
>
> You ask stupid questions to divert attention away from the fact that an
> armed populace is much safer than a chit ca go or a District of
> Congresscritters  with a mostly disarmed citizenry.
>
>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> October 20, 2016 at 1:23 PM
>> So if you take away their guns how would they kill each other? By
>> spreading zica virus?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-20 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
knives, pipes, baseball bats, brickbats, tire irons, lug wrenches, 
monkey wrenches, poison, drowning, beating, fire, machetes, shovels, 
rakes, hoes, rope, chain, ...   the list goes on and on.  If one tool is 
not available, the clowns will find another.


You ask stupid questions to divert attention away from the fact that an 
armed populace is much safer than a chit ca go or a District of  
Congresscritters  with a mostly disarmed citizenry.

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
October 20, 2016 at 1:23 PM
So if you take away their guns how would they kill each other? By
spreading zica virus?



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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-20 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Drug overdose takes far more lives per day than illegal use of guns by gang
bangers.. Of course, the gang bangers source of income is very often...
pushing drugs... so the winner in this Darwin Award contest is ???

It presents a complex set of problems and issues. None of which have been
solved by government programs, or gang banger shootings.. the root cause
is.. ???



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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So if you take away their guns how would they kill each other?  By
> spreading zica virus?
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> The hypothesis is that there are way too many shootings in Chicago - or
> >> maybe that's a fact?  I'm just hunting (no pun intended) for a
> >> solution(s).
> >>
> >
> > Alternative hypot is that there are two many gangbangers shooting each
> > other in Chicago, so many in fact that people who don't need to be dead
> > occasionally catch a stray bullet from the gang wars. (gangstas shooting
> > each other doesn't rise to the definition of tragedy in my book, it's
> just
> > unfortunate that new ones are recruited as fast as old ones get shot)
> >
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
So if you take away their guns how would they kill each other?  By
spreading zica virus?

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 2:02 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> The hypothesis is that there are way too many shootings in Chicago - or
>> maybe that's a fact?  I'm just hunting (no pun intended) for a
>> solution(s).
>>
>
> Alternative hypot is that there are two many gangbangers shooting each
> other in Chicago, so many in fact that people who don't need to be dead
> occasionally catch a stray bullet from the gang wars. (gangstas shooting
> each other doesn't rise to the definition of tragedy in my book, it's just
> unfortunate that new ones are recruited as fast as old ones get shot)
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

The hypothesis is that there are way too many shootings in Chicago - or
maybe that's a fact?  I'm just hunting (no pun intended) for a solution(s).


Alternative hypot is that there are two many gangbangers shooting each other in 
Chicago, so many in fact that people who don't need to be dead occasionally 
catch a stray bullet from the gang wars. (gangstas shooting each other doesn't 
rise to the definition of tragedy in my book, it's just unfortunate that new 
ones are recruited as fast as old ones get shot)


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-20 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

done

How many drive by shootings in Dallas in the news?

How many drive by  shootings in Chit cago?3325 shot  509 dead. ,172 
batting average.


Settled.


Where constitutional carry or open carry is legal, crime goes down.
How many robberies in Israel, where citizens are required to carry?

Mountain Man via Mercedes 
October 20, 2016 at 11:13 AM

Which solution (more guns *or* restrictions on who gets 'em) has
science that produces affirmation of hypothesis?
What is the hypothesis?
Let's see if okiebenz can arrive at dialog about an historic issue?
mao


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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The hypothesis is that there are way too many shootings in Chicago - or
maybe that's a fact?  I'm just hunting (no pun intended) for a solution(s).

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew wrote:
> > Need more guns?  Or maybe more restrictions on who gets 'em?
>
> Which solution (more guns *or* restrictions on who gets 'em) has
> science that produces affirmation of hypothesis?
> What is the hypothesis?
> Let's see if okiebenz can arrive at dialog about an historic issue?
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-20 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote:
> Need more guns?  Or maybe more restrictions on who gets 'em?

Which solution (more guns *or* restrictions on who gets 'em) has
science that produces affirmation of hypothesis?
What is the hypothesis?
Let's see if okiebenz can arrive at dialog about an historic issue?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Need more guns?  Or maybe more restrictions on who gets 'em?

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Over 10 people a day shot in CHit cago.  almost 2 a day dead.
>
> Homicides for 2016 as of today:  574.
> Total people shot in 2016 as of today:  3325.
>
> They are only battin' .172
>
> But Rahmdumb has succeeded in raising the toll from 509 to whatever it
> will be by the end of the year.  Maybe another 65 to 75 to 574 to 584?
>
> Lessall run out and vote fer the H=>bomb to spread this hopeNchange over
> the rest of the country.
>
>
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>> October 19, 2016 at 4:27 PM
>> Even the murder capital of the USA isn't all that dangerous.
>> But it's dangerous compared to sitting home in NH...
>>
>> https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/10/john-boch/war-safer-chicago/
>>
>>
>>
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[MBZ] Chit ca go wuz: 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?

2016-10-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Over 10 people a day shot in CHit cago.  almost 2 a day dead.

Homicides for 2016 as of today:  574.
Total people shot in 2016 as of today:  3325.

They are only battin' .172

But Rahmdumb has succeeded in raising the toll from 509 to whatever it 
will be by the end of the year.  Maybe another 65 to 75 to 574 to 584?


Lessall run out and vote fer the H=>bomb to spread this hopeNchange over 
the rest of the country.




Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
October 19, 2016 at 4:27 PM
Even the murder capital of the USA isn't all that dangerous.
But it's dangerous compared to sitting home in NH...

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/10/john-boch/war-safer-chicago/




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