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It seems than at Mon, 14 May 2007 13:42:59 -0700 (PDT), Christopher wrote: Wonder what will become of the Sprinter. Maybe it will stay on under the Freightliner badge. That's how many of the early ones were sold here. --Philip
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Well, it's time to declare success on the original big deal and give all the insightful execs involved big bonuses for their unique business acumen and astounding management skills in this wonderful achievement. And the board needs to vote themselves big bonuses too for their detailed oversight and guidance through the original purchase and now the sale. Oh, and the CEO needs to make a few more really funny commercials too telling us how great his stunning contribution was. --R
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I wonder if the 19.9 % ownership is to keep a handle on the old Mercedes technology that has crept into various Chrysler products over the last couple of years. What I'm wondering about is the fate of the Dodge-labelled Sprinter van which seems to have kicked the hell out of Ford box van sales. They are everywhere. Very few are labelled Freightliner. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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too bad they didnt just revert back to daimler benz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: [MB] Chrysler Sold DCAG just announced that it will sell Chrysler to an investment firm, Cerberus, for $7.5 billion. The deal is complicated, as DCAG (to be renamed Daimler AG--whatever happened to Benz?) will keep a 19.9-percent interest and loan money back to Chrysler Holdings, a subsidiary of Cerberus. This isn't the deal that the unions wanted, but they didn't get their employee ownership dealtogether fast enough. The net of the deal seems to be that nobody gets much significant money, but Cerberus will end up being able to ditch some of Chrysler's money-losing operations, and Daimler can go its merry way building Mercedes-Benzes again. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
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An interesting take on the sale here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10174381 I wonder if this means that the UPS guy will quit screwing up and delivering my MB parts to the local dodge dealer? Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: too bad they didnt just revert back to daimler benz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: [MB] Chrysler Sold DCAG just announced that it will sell Chrysler to an investment firm, Cerberus, for $7.5 billion. The deal is complicated, as DCAG (to be renamed Daimler AG--whatever happened to Benz?) will keep a 19.9-percent interest and loan money back to Chrysler Holdings, a subsidiary of Cerberus. This isn't the deal that the unions wanted, but they didn't get their employee ownership dealtogether fast enough. The net of the deal seems to be that nobody gets much significant money, but Cerberus will end up being able to ditch some of Chrysler's money-losing operations, and Daimler can go its merry way building Mercedes-Benzes again.
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Yeah, I wonder how many billions they lost on this venture. Guess it was German arrogance, Ja we will go and show those Amerika people how to run a auto business. - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale Well, it's time to declare success on the original big deal and give all the insightful execs involved big bonuses for their unique business acumen and astounding management skills in this wonderful achievement. And the board needs to vote themselves big bonuses too for their detailed oversight and guidance through the original purchase and now the sale. Oh, and the CEO needs to make a few more really funny commercials too telling us how great his stunning contribution was. --R
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Given that Daimler still has a stake in Chrysler I don't see any reason why they should not continue at least until they change the model. Especially seeing a lot of Dodge dealers would have had to spend money to enable them to service the vans. Anyway it looks like the workers are gonna be the losers out of this debacle. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale I wonder if the 19.9 % ownership is to keep a handle on the old Mercedes technology that has crept into various Chrysler products over the last couple of years. What I'm wondering about is the fate of the Dodge-labelled Sprinter van which seems to have kicked the hell out of Ford box van sales. They are everywhere. Very few are labelled Freightliner. RLE
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Apparently the stock holders will decide on the name when they meet. - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale too bad they didnt just revert back to daimler benz
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The Germans aren't the issue, its Americans not looking past this month's car payment and Toyota Honda understanding our spending habits. Granted, Toyota makes great cars but so does Chrysler. So do all three American car manufacturers. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale Yeah, I wonder how many billions they lost on this venture. Guess it was German arrogance, Ja we will go and show those Amerika people how to run a auto business. - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale Well, it's time to declare success on the original big deal and give all the insightful execs involved big bonuses for their unique business acumen and astounding management skills in this wonderful achievement. And the board needs to vote themselves big bonuses too for their detailed oversight and guidance through the original purchase and now the sale. Oh, and the CEO needs to make a few more really funny commercials too telling us how great his stunning contribution was. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Daimler Chrysler parts are distributed from the same parts depots. The two systems merged quite a few years ago. The split will be interesting to watch since my Wife works for the depot system. It's possible that her job could go either way. By the way, I sat down at her computer when I was visiting one Saturday compared as many parts as I could think of, from brake parts to suspension parts to electrical to body trim parts. Chrysler parts are more expensive than Mercedes parts in the system but they are more expensive at the stealership because they have a higher markup. This is another good reason to buy from Rusty. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Tara Ludwick Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 7:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale An interesting take on the sale here: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10174381 I wonder if this means that the UPS guy will quit screwing up and delivering my MB parts to the local dodge dealer? Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: too bad they didnt just revert back to daimler benz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: [MB] Chrysler Sold DCAG just announced that it will sell Chrysler to an investment firm, Cerberus, for $7.5 billion. The deal is complicated, as DCAG (to be renamed Daimler AG--whatever happened to Benz?) will keep a 19.9-percent interest and loan money back to Chrysler Holdings, a subsidiary of Cerberus. This isn't the deal that the unions wanted, but they didn't get their employee ownership dealtogether fast enough. The net of the deal seems to be that nobody gets much significant money, but Cerberus will end up being able to ditch some of Chrysler's money-losing operations, and Daimler can go its merry way building Mercedes-Benzes again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 14 May 2007, Christopher McCann wrote: Wonder what will become of the Sprinter. I have been seeing a fair number of MB badged ones recently. and the hood is a different shape to make room for the star, so I suspect it was shipped that way. -j.
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It seems than at Mon, 14 May 2007 20:09:38 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if the 19.9 % ownership is to keep a handle on the old Mercedes technology that has crept into various Chrysler products over the last couple of years. What I'm wondering about is the fate of the Dodge-labelled Sprinter van which seems to have kicked the hell out of Ford box van sales. They are everywhere. Very few are labelled Freightliner. I believe that Freightliner quit selling them because Dodge started selling them. But that's a rather fussy, old memory, so it could be faulty... -- Philip
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Hood may seem a different shape, but it is not. I thought that myself at one point. If you remove the dodge/freightliner badge and, I think, chrome on the edge of the hood, it reveals a semi-circular cutout, which is there to accomodate the top portion of the star. Chris John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 14 May 2007, Christopher McCann wrote: Wonder what will become of the Sprinter. I have been seeing a fair number of MB badged ones recently. and the hood is a different shape to make room for the star, so I suspect it was shipped that way. -j. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, happy customer of austerlitzshepherds.com Ohne Zucht keine Leistung, ohne Leistung keine Zucht! -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz) Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz. -1985 300SD, 222K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, little blue klatter box - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 15 17:10:50 2007 Received: from web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.69.22]) by server8.arterytc8.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Ho0Xu-0008VY-6X for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:10:48 + Received: (qmail 87198 invoked by uid 60001); 15 May 2007 17:10:43 - X-YMail-OSG: Cua6.dsVM1nB5qi5jFqQkeLsRu1uT3SkPbSjs9gZEHWEaKvbpICpBqnsKdmCo9ALig-- Received: from [24.123.111.98] by web30005.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 15 May 2007 10:10:43 PDT Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 10:10:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 17:10:50 - Both still sell them, I am sure. Chris Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Mon, 14 May 2007 20:09:38 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: technology that has crept into various Chrysler products over the last couple of years. What I'm wondering about is the fate of the Dodge-labelled Sprinter van which seems to have kicked the hell out of Ford box van sales. They are everywhere. Very few are labelled Freightliner. I believe that Freightliner quit selling them because Dodge started selling them. But that's a rather fussy, old memory, so it could be faulty... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, happy customer of austerlitzshepherds.com Ohne Zucht keine Leistung, ohne Leistung keine Zucht! -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz) Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz. -1985 300SD, 222K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, little blue klatter box - Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue May 15 17:26:53 2007 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.242]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1Ho0nQ-fG-9l for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 15 May 2007 17:26:52 + Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c25so515553ana for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 15 May 2007 10:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.37.4 with SMTP id k4mr5658112ank.1179250004293; Tue, 15 May 2007 10:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.213.9 with HTTP; Tue, 15 May 2007 10:26:44 -0700
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Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Mon, 14 May 2007 20:09:38 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'm wondering about is the fate of the Dodge-labelled Sprinter van which seems to have kicked the hell out of Ford box van sales. They are everywhere. Very few are labelled Freightliner. I believe that Freightliner quit selling them because Dodge started selling them. But that's a rather fussy, old memory, so it could be faulty... It seems than at Tue, 15 May 2007 10:10:43 -0700 (PDT), Christopher wrote: Chris then said: Both still sell them, I am sure. Based on: http://stage.freightliner.com/brands/sprinter.asp and: http://www.fl-sprinter.com/ it would seem my memory is faulty *sigh* -- Philip
[MBZ] Chrysler sale
Subject: Re: [MB] Chrysler Sold DCAG just announced that it will sell Chrysler to an investment firm, Cerberus, for $7.5 billion. The deal is complicated, as DCAG (to be renamed Daimler AG--whatever happened to Benz?) will keep a 19.9-percent interest and loan money back to Chrysler Holdings, a subsidiary of Cerberus. This isn't the deal that the unions wanted, but they didn't get their employee ownership dealtogether fast enough. The net of the deal seems to be that nobody gets much significant money, but Cerberus will end up being able to ditch some of Chrysler's money-losing operations, and Daimler can go its merry way building Mercedes-Benzes again. -Original Message- From: @mbusi.daimlerchrysler.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:13 AM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: Fw: Zur Neuausrichtung von DaimlerChrysler / Re Realignment of DaimlerChrysler From Dr. Z: Dear Colleagues, this afternoon in Stuttgart we will present to the public our concept for the future of Daimler and Chrysler. Following a broad strategic review, we have decided to sell a majority interest in the Chrysler Group and its related financial services business to Cerberus. This decision was not easy to make - and it was particularly difficult for me personally. But from an objective point of view, it is the right thing to do. We will retain an equity interest of 19.9% in Chrysler, in part to secure the continuity of our common projects. As trusted business partners, Mercedes and Chrysler will continue to take advantage of collaborative work in the future. To do so we do not need to be an integrated company. We are convinced that we have found the best solution for Chrysler and its employees; one that will ensure the long-term viability of the company. With the new ownership structure, Chrysler will have more flexibility and will be ideally positioned to implement its comprehensive Recovery and Transformation Plan and to sharply focus on its target markets and segments. Daimler will also benefit from the new concept: We will fully focus our company on manufacturing and marketing premium products and delivering premium services in all of our businesses worldwide. That is our traditional strength. It's also where we have the best opportunities for sustained and profitable growth. At the same time, we'll substantially reduce our dependence on the volatile volume market segments in the U.S.. To reflect this new alignment of our business, we will change our company's name. We will call an Extraordinary Shareholders' Meeting and propose that we do business in the future as Daimler AG. The Board of Management will be scaled down from nine to six members. Tom LaSorda, Eric Ridenour and Tom Sidlik will leave the Board of Management by amicable agreement. There will no longer be a separate board position for procurement; Bodo Uebber will assume these duties in addition to his other responsibilities. The leadership teams of the Mercedes Car Group, the Truck Group and Financial Services will remain unchanged, as will the teams in the vans and buses businesses. All of these businesses will continue as integral parts of our company. The new Daimler AG is well positioned for the future. In all of our divisions - the Mercedes Car Group, the Truck Group and Financial Services - we have the right organizations and strategies, which you are implementing with positive results. We have set clear and ambitious goals for the future: - We want to be the world's leading manufacturer of premium passenger cars and commercial vehicles. - We want to fully focus on the needs of our customers and inspire them with fascinating products and strong, unique brands. - We want to offer the best service and first-class, customer-oriented financial services. - And we want to live a culture of excellence, ensuring sustained and profitable growth. We are convinced that together, we have the innovative power and the pioneering spirit to achieve these goals. Our company invented the automobile. Today, in Mercedes we have the strongest automotive brand in the world linking our businesses. And last but not least, we have in all of you the right team to deliver top performance. With our new organization, we can now focus all of our attention and efforts on the tasks ahead of us, to bring Daimler AG where it belongs - at the top of the auto industry. My colleagues and I look forward to traveling this road together with you. Sincerely, Dieter Zetsche ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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Yes and my german friends tell me Daimler stock is up 35%, however don't *ask* what it was before this debacle. That and Daimler according the WSJ actually will pay out 500M euros as a net loss by the time the paperwork is signed due to the 7.5B going directly into Chrysler operations, financing and debit. So although 7.5B exchanges hands there lurked folks looking for 8B of money first before Daimler sees a penny. Still Cerberus gets 18B or something of health-care/pension debt. Wonder how they will shed that I wonder if the 19.9 % ownership is to keep a handle on the old mercedes technology that has crept into various Chrysler products over the last couple of years. On May 14, 2007, at 12:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: [MB] Chrysler Sold DCAG just announced that it will sell Chrysler to an investment firm, Cerberus, for $7.5 billion. The deal is complicated, as DCAG (to be renamed Daimler AG--whatever happened to Benz?) will keep a 19.9-percent interest and loan money back to Chrysler Holdings, a subsidiary of Cerberus. This isn't the deal that the unions wanted, but they didn't get their employee ownership dealtogether fast enough. The net of the deal seems to be that nobody gets much significant money, but Cerberus will end up being able to ditch some of Chrysler's money- losing operations, and Daimler can go its merry way building Mercedes- Benzes again.
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I wonder if the sale comes with a warranty? On 5/14/07, John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes and my german friends tell me Daimler stock is up 35%, however don't *ask* what it was before this debacle. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org
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Wonder what will become of the Sprinter. Chris John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes and my german friends tell me Daimler stock is up 35%, however don't *ask* what it was before this debacle. That and Daimler according the WSJ actually will pay out 500M euros as a net loss by the time the paperwork is signed due to the 7.5B going directly into Chrysler operations, financing and debit. So although 7.5B exchanges hands there lurked folks looking for 8B of money first before Daimler sees a penny. Still Cerberus gets 18B or something of health-care/pension debt. Wonder how they will shed that I wonder if the 19.9 % ownership is to keep a handle on the old mercedes technology that has crept into various Chrysler products over the last couple of years. On May 14, 2007, at 12:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: [MB] Chrysler Sold DCAG just announced that it will sell Chrysler to an investment firm, Cerberus, for $7.5 billion. The deal is complicated, as DCAG (to be renamed Daimler AG--whatever happened to Benz?) will keep a 19.9-percent interest and loan money back to Chrysler Holdings, a subsidiary of Cerberus. This isn't the deal that the unions wanted, but they didn't get their employee ownership dealtogether fast enough. The net of the deal seems to be that nobody gets much significant money, but Cerberus will end up being able to ditch some of Chrysler's money- losing operations, and Daimler can go its merry way building Mercedes- Benzes again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, happy customer of austerlitzshepherds.com Ohne Zucht keine Leistung, ohne Leistung keine Zucht! -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz) Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz. -1985 300SD, 222K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, little blue klatter box - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon May 14 20:52:42 2007 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.234]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HnhX7-0006JQ-SL for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 14 May 2007 20:52:42 + Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q50so1819030wrq for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Mon, 14 May 2007 13:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.36.1 with SMTP id j1mr1142952waj.1179175960297; Mon, 14 May 2007 13:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.92.4 with HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2007 13:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 16:52:40 -0400 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9.cp2 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD with heat 24/7 X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 20:52:42 - First thing I'd check would be the fuses. That's what's been my cause of the roughly 3 times it's happened. It's like tied in with the horn and backup lights. Or at least that's what I recall with my 83' 300d... Levi On 5/13/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I am getting no power what does that signify and what needs fixing?? It signifies that you're always going to have heat! It's the PB array, or the wiring to/from it. You need to get out the car's schematic and start verifying the wiring. (Grounds, power feeds, etc.) But it's usually the PB array IIRC. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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Ah, a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter, not a Chrysler sprinter I'll note. Also sold under the Dodge and FreightLiner brand. I'd guess they'll continue selling them via FreightLiner (aka Daimler) brand. I recall the heavy truck side of Daimler was quite profitable. See ebay on how to convert your Dodge Sprinter badging to the original Mercedes brand. I do wonder if your mercedes dealer would sell them out the back door tho. On May 14, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Christopher McCann wrote: Wonder what will become of the Sprinter. Chris John 1983 300TDt 368k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 180k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
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Ah, a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter, not a Chrysler sprinter I'll note. Also sold under the Dodge and FreightLiner brand. I'd guess they'll continue selling them via FreightLiner (aka Daimler) brand. I recall the heavy truck side of Daimler was quite profitable. See ebay on how to convert your Dodge Sprinter badging to the original Mercedes brand. I do wonder if your mercedes dealer would sell them out the back door tho. On May 14, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Christopher McCann wrote: Wonder what will become of the Sprinter. Chris John 1983 300TDt 368k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 180k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale
Indeed...and thanks for the diesel powered mini van like promised... Bob R. - Original Message - From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale Wonder what will become of the Sprinter. Chris John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes and my german friends tell me Daimler stock is up 35%, however don't *ask* what it was before this debacle. That and Daimler according the WSJ actually will pay out 500M euros as a net loss by the time the paperwork is signed due to the 7.5B going directly into Chrysler operations, financing and debit. So although 7.5B exchanges hands there lurked folks looking for 8B of money first before Daimler sees a penny. Still Cerberus gets 18B or something of health-care/pension debt. Wonder how they will shed that I wonder if the 19.9 % ownership is to keep a handle on the old mercedes technology that has crept into various Chrysler products over the last couple of years. On May 14, 2007, at 12:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: [MB] Chrysler Sold DCAG just announced that it will sell Chrysler to an investment firm, Cerberus, for $7.5 billion. The deal is complicated, as DCAG (to be renamed Daimler AG--whatever happened to Benz?) will keep a 19.9-percent interest and loan money back to Chrysler Holdings, a subsidiary of Cerberus. This isn't the deal that the unions wanted, but they didn't get their employee ownership dealtogether fast enough. The net of the deal seems to be that nobody gets much significant money, but Cerberus will end up being able to ditch some of Chrysler's money- losing operations, and Daimler can go its merry way building Mercedes- Benzes again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Christopher McCann, happy customer of austerlitzshepherds.com Ohne Zucht keine Leistung, ohne Leistung keine Zucht! -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der Burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der Burg Austerlitz) Freude an der Arbeit: Hoechste Leistung - Mercedes-Benz. -1985 300SD, 222K miles, Wulf -1982 300Dt, 118K miles, little blue klatter box - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale
The sales manger at my local stealer mentioned the badging kit when we were discussing MB diesels-not sure if he sold them. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John M McIntosh Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 6:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale Ah, a Mercedes-Benz Sprinter, not a Chrysler sprinter I'll note. Also sold under the Dodge and FreightLiner brand. I'd guess they'll continue selling them via FreightLiner (aka Daimler) brand. I recall the heavy truck side of Daimler was quite profitable. See ebay on how to convert your Dodge Sprinter badging to the original Mercedes brand. I do wonder if your mercedes dealer would sell them out the back door tho. On May 14, 2007, at 1:42 PM, Christopher McCann wrote: Wonder what will become of the Sprinter. Chris John 1983 300TDt 368k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1990's 300TDt 172k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) 1993 500SEL 180k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chrysler sale
It will LOSE money, or is that an implied warranty? On May 14, 2007, at 1:38 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: I wonder if the sale comes with a warranty? Still if one was a Chrysler parts supplier I'd be phoning and asking when do we get our money, and we'll be glad (NOT) to redo this contract now that you've been sold... Of course I could be wrong in my opinion of USA automobile manufactures
