Re: [MBZ] Cigarette lighter outlet puzzle

2022-06-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I just replace them with these when I need to power something:
https://www.westmountainradio.com/kb_view_topic.php?id=ST166
They are in the truck and the Cessna now ---

On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 7:17 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> IIRC the lighter sockets of the W114/W115, like old American iron, are
> fairly deep
> when compared to the newer cars like R107+.  The lighter socket hardware,
> like seat
> belts, are 100% American in origin, but have been drifting.  The _power_
> sockets,
> though, I believe retain the original depth.
>
> The very best retention is of the plugs that have a molded ridge in the
> nose that
> actually is gripped by the lighter socket's thermostatic release clip.
> Those are
> few and far between, though.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette lighter outlet puzzle

2022-06-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
IIRC the lighter sockets of the W114/W115, like old American iron, are fairly 
deep
when compared to the newer cars like R107+.  The lighter socket hardware, like 
seat
belts, are 100% American in origin, but have been drifting.  The _power_ 
sockets,
though, I believe retain the original depth.

The very best retention is of the plugs that have a molded ridge in the nose 
that
actually is gripped by the lighter socket's thermostatic release clip.  Those 
are
few and far between, though.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette lighter outlet puzzle

2022-06-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I believe so. I’ll check mine when I have the time. I experienced this in my 
W210 wagon, which has a power outlet in the cargo area.

-D

> On Jun 15, 2022, at 4:46 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2022-06-15 19:28, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> It’s been my experience that the Euro cigarette lighters are pretty
>> short, so the socket is equally “shallow”, meaning that anything like
>> a charger that you put in there will flop around.
>> Note that if you also have a power adapter socket it will be much deeper.
> 
> You're saying the socket left of the tailgate on my W163 is deeper than the 
> lighter socket, which was intended only for the lighter that came with it?
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette lighter outlet puzzle

2022-06-15 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2022-06-15 19:28, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

It’s been my experience that the Euro cigarette lighters are pretty
short, so the socket is equally “shallow”, meaning that anything like
a charger that you put in there will flop around.

Note that if you also have a power adapter socket it will be much 
deeper.


You're saying the socket left of the tailgate on my W163 is deeper than 
the lighter socket, which was intended only for the lighter that came 
with it?


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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette lighter outlet puzzle

2022-06-15 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
It’s been my experience that the Euro cigarette lighters are pretty short, so 
the socket is equally “shallow”, meaning that anything like a charger that you 
put in there will flop around.

Note that if you also have a power adapter socket it will be much deeper.

-D


> On Jun 15, 2022, at 4:25 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> problem solved.thanks for the advice. neighbor gave my wife two cords both
> of which fit.. I think they have been used in Audi
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2022, 6:21 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I had one like that, maybe in a 210 of the same vintage. I just put a bit
>> of paper in to shim it and it worked fine
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2022, at 6:18 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How much is a new socket?
>>> Mitch.
>>> 
 On 2022-06-15 17:55, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
 My wife just bought a 2000 CLK 320 with very low mileage.  The
 phone charger cord slops around in the lighter outlet.  I tested this
 with the one that is tight in the 2005 E320 and it too slops around.
>> Parts
 guy @ dealer said it is the same outlet.  So Wrap the phone plug
>> end in
 wire? Shim the lighter socket?
 TIA
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette lighter outlet puzzle

2022-06-15 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
problem solved.thanks for the advice. neighbor gave my wife two cords both
of which fit.. I think they have been used in Audi

On Wed, Jun 15, 2022, 6:21 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I had one like that, maybe in a 210 of the same vintage. I just put a bit
> of paper in to shim it and it worked fine
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Jun 15, 2022, at 6:18 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > How much is a new socket?
> > Mitch.
> >
> >> On 2022-06-15 17:55, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> >> My wife just bought a 2000 CLK 320 with very low mileage.  The
> >> phone charger cord slops around in the lighter outlet.  I tested this
> >> with the one that is tight in the 2005 E320 and it too slops around.
> Parts
> >> guy @ dealer said it is the same outlet.  So Wrap the phone plug
> end in
> >> wire? Shim the lighter socket?
> >> TIA
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette lighter outlet puzzle

2022-06-15 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I like that idea. Paper  won't cut connectivity?
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
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Wickford RI


On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 6:21 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I had one like that, maybe in a 210 of the same vintage. I just put a bit
> of paper in to shim it and it worked fine
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Jun 15, 2022, at 6:18 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > How much is a new socket?
> > Mitch.
> >
> >> On 2022-06-15 17:55, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> >> My wife just bought a 2000 CLK 320 with very low mileage.  The
> >> phone charger cord slops around in the lighter outlet.  I tested this
> >> with the one that is tight in the 2005 E320 and it too slops around.
> Parts
> >> guy @ dealer said it is the same outlet.  So Wrap the phone plug
> end in
> >> wire? Shim the lighter socket?
> >> TIA
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette lighter outlet puzzle

2022-06-15 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I don't know. I was hoping to avoid changing one. Wonder if I can get a
larger plug on cord??
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 6:18 PM mitch--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> How much is a new socket?
> Mitch.
>
> On 2022-06-15 17:55, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> > My wife just bought a 2000 CLK 320 with very low mileage.  The
> > phone charger cord slops around in the lighter outlet.  I tested this
> > with the one that is tight in the 2005 E320 and it too slops around.
> > Parts
> > guy @ dealer said it is the same outlet.  So Wrap the phone plug
> > end in
> > wire? Shim the lighter socket?
> > TIA
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette lighter outlet puzzle

2022-06-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Is it a European thing? My old W115 300D socket is loose on normal plugs 
as well. I have always assumed that it may be some sort of metric socket 
rather than what we expect in NA. I think about changing it but haven't 
needed to do so and thus haven't yet.


Randy

On 15/06/2022 5:17 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

How much is a new socket?
Mitch.

On 2022-06-15 17:55, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

My wife just bought a 2000 CLK 320 with very low mileage.  The
phone charger cord slops around in the lighter outlet.  I tested this
with the one that is tight in the 2005 E320 and it too slops around.  
Parts
guy @ dealer said it is the same outlet.  So Wrap the phone plug 
end in

wire? Shim the lighter socket?
TIA


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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette lighter outlet puzzle

2022-06-15 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I had one like that, maybe in a 210 of the same vintage. I just put a bit of 
paper in to shim it and it worked fine

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jun 15, 2022, at 6:18 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> How much is a new socket?
> Mitch.
> 
>> On 2022-06-15 17:55, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>> My wife just bought a 2000 CLK 320 with very low mileage.  The
>> phone charger cord slops around in the lighter outlet.  I tested this
>> with the one that is tight in the 2005 E320 and it too slops around.  Parts
>> guy @ dealer said it is the same outlet.  So Wrap the phone plug end in
>> wire? Shim the lighter socket?
>> TIA
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette lighter outlet puzzle

2022-06-15 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

How much is a new socket?
Mitch.

On 2022-06-15 17:55, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

My wife just bought a 2000 CLK 320 with very low mileage.  The
phone charger cord slops around in the lighter outlet.  I tested this
with the one that is tight in the 2005 E320 and it too slops around.  
Parts
guy @ dealer said it is the same outlet.  So Wrap the phone plug 
end in

wire? Shim the lighter socket?
TIA


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[MBZ] Cigarette lighter outlet puzzle

2022-06-15 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
My wife just bought a 2000 CLK 320 with very low mileage.  The
phone charger cord slops around in the lighter outlet.  I tested this
with the one that is tight in the 2005 E320 and it too slops around.  Parts
guy @ dealer said it is the same outlet.  So Wrap the phone plug end in
wire? Shim the lighter socket?
TIA

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Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-26 Thread Brian Chase

Ha! That's choice.

It seems the PO tore out the lighter. I saw in the owner's manual a drawing 
of it. It's gone. The PO apparently had a fetish with tearing out things and 
playing with the wires.


Brian
83 240D


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:21:50 -0500

Given how much Germans smoke, they should have them on the dash, and the 
sun
visor, and the steering wheel, and on the seat between your legs, and in 
all

the headrests, and probably a few outside the car as a courtesy to
pedestrians.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 2/25/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these
 things? this means no cel phone plug.

 Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey
It seems the PO tore out the lighter. I saw in the owner's manual a 
drawing
of it. It's gone. The PO apparently had a fetish with tearing out 
things and

playing with the wires.


Replace it with a good junkyard one then.  There ought to be
a lot of them floating around.  I've certainly left enough of
them in cars I've plundered.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-26 Thread Brian Chase
Yeah, I was figgerin on finding a yard around here to hunt. I also need the 
piece of wood trim on the far right side of dash (part that curves around). 
Also need glove box light (refer to PO's fetish). Also need manual shifter 
boot. For that matter, need antenna and radio, though considering a modern 
radio.


If you want, let me know what you would get for the ash tray, and what it 
might cost to ship it here.


Brian
83 240D


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you should probably buy a new ash tray then, I have plenty.

Brian Chase wrote:

 Ha! That's choice.

 It seems the PO tore out the lighter. I saw in the owner's manual a 
drawing
 of it. It's gone. The PO apparently had a fetish with tearing out things 
and

 playing with the wires.

 Brian
 83 240D


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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:21:50 -0500

Given how much Germans smoke, they should have them on the dash, and the
sun
visor, and the steering wheel, and on the seat between your legs, and in
all
the headrests, and probably a few outside the car as a courtesy to
pedestrians.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 2/25/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these
things? this means no cel phone plug.

Brian
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[MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-25 Thread Brian Chase
Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these 
things? this means no cel phone plug.


Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-25 Thread Zeitgeist
Have you opened your ash tray yet?  It should reside just forward of
your shifter.

On 2/24/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these
 things? this means no cel phone plug.

Casey
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-25 Thread Jim Cathey

Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these
things? this means no cel phone plug.


Huh?  Ashtray has one.  In a 126, both rear ashtrays have
them too.  Handy for plugging in a travel cooler.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-25 Thread Brian Chase
Yup. I looked in the ash tray a couple times - didn't see a lighter. I 
really did look. I've been known to miss things though. Will try again in 
morning.


Brian


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Have you opened your ash tray yet?  It should reside just forward of
your shifter.

On 2/24/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these
 things? this means no cel phone plug.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (210k)
Gashuffer:
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-25 Thread Jim Cathey
Yup. I looked in the ash tray a couple times - didn't see a lighter. I 
really did look. I've been known to miss things though. Will try again 
in morning.


Lighter may be lost, they often are.  But there should be a nice
round hole where it used to live, into which you can plug your phone.
It should be lit when the tray's open, but the bulb is often burnt out.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

There is, its in the ashtray.

Brian Chase wrote:

Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these 
things? this means no cel phone plug.


Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

did you see a hole for one?

Brian Chase wrote:

Yup. I looked in the ash tray a couple times - didn't see a lighter. I 
really did look. I've been known to miss things though. Will try again 
in morning.


Brian


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:35:03 -0800

Have you opened your ash tray yet?  It should reside just forward of
your shifter.

On 2/24/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these
 things? this means no cel phone plug.

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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-25 Thread Brian Chase
Didn't see a hole - just what looked like a three prong outlet type array of 
slits (on left side). Will look this morn.


Brian


From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 23:23:34 -0800

 Yup. I looked in the ash tray a couple times - didn't see a lighter. I
 really did look. I've been known to miss things though. Will try again
 in morning.

Lighter may be lost, they often are.  But there should be a nice
round hole where it used to live, into which you can plug your phone.
It should be lit when the tray's open, but the bulb is often burnt out.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-25 Thread Jim Cathey
Didn't see a hole - just what looked like a three prong outlet type 
array of slits (on left side). Will look this morn.


That sounds odd.  You _do_ have a pull-out ashtray, right?  With a
light that illuminates the interior when it's out?  It pulls out of
a little metal frame, on the side of which is an arced wiper for the
sliding contact of the tray proper.  (And from which both the socket
and the bulb feed.)  The frame itself plugs into a 2-pin connector
that is normally completely hidden.  The round hole, on the left,
is right next to where you stuff the butts.

Is it possible that somebody stuffed something into the lighter's
hole?  A power adapter, or perhaps the remnants of one?

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-25 Thread Marshall Booth

Brian Chase wrote:
Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these 
things? this means no cel phone plug.


The lighter plug is INSIDE the ashtray.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-25 Thread dave walton
Given how much Germans smoke, they should have them on the dash, and the sun
visor, and the steering wheel, and on the seat between your legs, and in all
the headrests, and probably a few outside the car as a courtesy to
pedestrians.

-Dave Walton
94S350, 99E300

On 2/25/06, Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these
 things? this means no cel phone plug.

 Brian
 83 240D

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Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter?

2006-02-25 Thread Zeitgeist
The same logic should apply to cup holders, as well.

On 2/25/06, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Given how much Germans smoke, they should have them on the dash, and the sun
 visor, and the steering wheel, and on the seat between your legs, and in all
 the headrests, and probably a few outside the car as a courtesy to
 pedestrians.

Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler (211k)
'84 300D (210k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)