Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-12-01 Thread Douglas
I am not sure where I got it from but had to use MS essentials again this 
week!


But yes. Though the only indication I have trouble is when I see mail to 
here that

I did not send!

Douglas

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From: Rick Knoble

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows




From: jgi...@comcast.net

When I got my first car '66 Dodge Charger I used a product called glass 
wax.

I bought it at a grocery store. The same thing is being sold as Gel Gloss.


http://gel-gloss.com/index.php?pageId=354

Looks like good stuff. Did you ever rid your computer/email of that bug?

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread Rick Knoble

On Nov 29, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 Cleaning the windows with the squeegee and solution
 did not change things.
 
 Any suggestions on how to solve this problem, short of replacing the
 windows? I never heard of glass not cleaning up before.


Marshall recommended Bonami cleanser and I concur. It works great on auto 
windows. 
Rick
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread Fmiser
  Craig wrote:
 
  Cleaning the windows with the squeegee and solution
  did not change things.

 Rick Knoble wrote:
 
 Marshall recommended Bonami cleanser and I concur. It works
 great on auto windows. Rick
 Sent from my iPhone

I used toothpaste once.  I was many, many miles from home when
the rain started.  I had toothpaste in my bag.  The rain
started, late at night.  I pulled under the canopy at a closed
gas station and scrubbed the windshield.  It worked rather well.

I don't know if whitening or floride help or hinder...

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread G Mann
Try a product called Soft Scrub... should find it where you buy
dishwashing soap and such things.. apply with a green scrub pad / sponge
like you wash dishes with by hand.

It will not scratch your windshield but will remove things like tree sap,
city crud [don't know what else to call it] salt residue, and general
junk that accumulates on windows, crome and such... I use it to polish
badly tarnished silver even.  Makes it shine like new.

It is washes right off with water.  I would use a pail of warm water to
pre-wet the windshield and wet the sponge.. apply to sponge or windshield
and scrub...

Let us know how that worked, if you try it on your problem.

Grant...
AZ... Where diesels roam free

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

   Craig wrote:
  
   Cleaning the windows with the squeegee and solution
   did not change things.

  Rick Knoble wrote:
 
  Marshall recommended Bonami cleanser and I concur. It works
  great on auto windows. Rick
  Sent from my iPhone

 I used toothpaste once.  I was many, many miles from home when
 the rain started.  I had toothpaste in my bag.  The rain
 started, late at night.  I pulled under the canopy at a closed
 gas station and scrubbed the windshield.  It worked rather well.

 I don't know if whitening or floride help or hinder...

 --   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
With old cars, the only thing I've found that really works is this:
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/ag-4325.html

Its worth the money.

Jaime


On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 Our '82 240D/3.0 hasn't had its windows cleaned in a long while, so
 Shirley decided to have at it. She reports that a strong ammonia solution
 did NOT clean the windows, that they are still visibly dirty. I noticed
 that when I fueled up the car Sunday afternoon. The area on the
 windshield where the wiper blades run looked relatively clean, with dirt
 on the other regions. Cleaning the windows with the squeegee and solution
 did not change things.

 Any suggestions on how to solve this problem, short of replacing the
 windows? I never heard of glass not cleaning up before.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread WILTON

I've Coca-Cola and Pepsi to clear a windshield very nicely in rain.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows



 Craig wrote:

 Cleaning the windows with the squeegee and solution
 did not change things.



Rick Knoble wrote:

Marshall recommended Bonami cleanser and I concur. It works
great on auto windows. Rick
Sent from my iPhone


I used toothpaste once.  I was many, many miles from home when
the rain started.  I had toothpaste in my bag.  The rain
started, late at night.  I pulled under the canopy at a closed
gas station and scrubbed the windshield.  It worked rather well.

I don't know if whitening or floride help or hinder...

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread Dan Penoff
Martha will step in here:

Autoglym is good stuff, but if you can find it, there used to be a product 
called Nothin's Better or something like that sold specifically for hand 
polishing windshields.

Jay O'Brien from the MBCA list turned me on to this stuff when I was visiting 
his ranch in CA some years back, and he gave me a small container of it.

Similar to Bon Ami, it's a fine grit polishing compound that will remove very 
fine scratches in the glass and can be used by hand, not a buffer.

Not sure how easy it is to find or if it's a regional product, but it works 
quite well.

Mercedes Martha Stewart

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On Nov 30, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 With old cars, the only thing I've found that really works is this:
 http://www.autopia-carcare.com/ag-4325.html
 
 Its worth the money.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
 
 Our '82 240D/3.0 hasn't had its windows cleaned in a long while, so
 Shirley decided to have at it. She reports that a strong ammonia solution
 did NOT clean the windows, that they are still visibly dirty. I noticed
 that when I fueled up the car Sunday afternoon. The area on the
 windshield where the wiper blades run looked relatively clean, with dirt
 on the other regions. Cleaning the windows with the squeegee and solution
 did not change things.
 
 Any suggestions on how to solve this problem, short of replacing the
 windows? I never heard of glass not cleaning up before.
 
 
 Craig
 
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[MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread Jerry Herrman
My problem with cleaning windows has not been the outside, which you can 
experiment on with plenty of room, but with the inside, which is concave and at 
an angle that does not lend itself well to a squeegee. 
Then the hard part -  that lower area where you have difficulty maneuvering 
because the angle of the dash with the winshield prevents easy movements, and 
can only be tackled by getting into a contorted position.
Add to that the problem of introducing a liquid in that region. (I imagine 
there is a more elegant way of expressing this difficulty). I have never 
managed to properly clean the inside of the windshield on a modern car. There 
are always streaks leftover. I've been told that film on the inside is 
plasticizer, a kind of off-gas from all the plastic components inside the 
vehicle. Also been told it is the source of the new car smell.
I once asked a professional detailer how he does it. His only response was that 
he understood what I was saying and that he faced the same difficulty.
 I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has conquered this problem.

Jerry
82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread WILTON
'Reminds me:  In the hot GA and/or NC sun, the off/out-gas from interior of 
my '64 Karman Ghia would condense on the inside of the windows so much that 
it could at times run down in little trickles.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:41 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Cleaning windows


My problem with cleaning windows has not been the outside, which you can 
experiment on with plenty of room, but with the inside, which is concave 
and at an angle that does not lend itself well to a squeegee.
Then the hard part -  that lower area where you have difficulty 
maneuvering because the angle of the dash with the winshield prevents easy 
movements, and can only be tackled by getting into a contorted position.
Add to that the problem of introducing a liquid in that region. (I imagine 
there is a more elegant way of expressing this difficulty). I have never 
managed to properly clean the inside of the windshield on a modern car. 
There are always streaks leftover. I've been told that film on the inside 
is plasticizer, a kind of off-gas from all the plastic components inside 
the vehicle. Also been told it is the source of the new car smell.
I once asked a professional detailer how he does it. His only response was 
that he understood what I was saying and that he faced the same 
difficulty.
I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has conquered this 
problem.


Jerry
82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread hursley
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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread G Mann
Soft Scrub on a sponge/green scrubber is your answer.  It will cling to the
glass or the sponge until you wipe it off with clean water and paper
towel... How you reach the hard to reach areas . hmmm ... Yoga classes?

Try rigging up a sponge on a stick arrangement, perhaps.. a bath squeege
with the scrubber held on with rubber bands tightly?

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote:

 My problem with cleaning windows has not been the outside, which you can
 experiment on with plenty of room, but with the inside, which is concave
 and at an angle that does not lend itself well to a squeegee.
 Then the hard part -  that lower area where you have difficulty
 maneuvering because the angle of the dash with the winshield prevents easy
 movements, and can only be tackled by getting into a contorted position.
 Add to that the problem of introducing a liquid in that region. (I imagine
 there is a more elegant way of expressing this difficulty). I have never
 managed to properly clean the inside of the windshield on a modern car.
 There are always streaks leftover. I've been told that film on the inside
 is plasticizer, a kind of off-gas from all the plastic components inside
 the vehicle. Also been told it is the source of the new car smell.
 I once asked a professional detailer how he does it. His only response was
 that he understood what I was saying and that he faced the same difficulty.
  I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has conquered this
 problem.

 Jerry
 82 240D


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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread Douglas

When I got my first car '66 Dodge Charger I used a product called glass wax.
I bought it at a grocery store. The same thing is being sold as Gel Gloss. 
Works

very well and the glass stays clean longer.

-Original Message- 
From: G Mann

Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 11:56 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

Try a product called Soft Scrub... should find it where you buy
dishwashing soap and such things.. apply with a green scrub pad / sponge
like you wash dishes with by hand.

It will not scratch your windshield but will remove things like tree sap,
city crud [don't know what else to call it] salt residue, and general
junk that accumulates on windows, crome and such... I use it to polish
badly tarnished silver even.  Makes it shine like new.

It is washes right off with water.  I would use a pail of warm water to
pre-wet the windshield and wet the sponge.. apply to sponge or windshield
and scrub...

Let us know how that worked, if you try it on your problem.

Grant...
AZ... Where diesels roam free

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:


  Craig wrote:
 
  Cleaning the windows with the squeegee and solution
  did not change things.

 Rick Knoble wrote:

 Marshall recommended Bonami cleanser and I concur. It works
 great on auto windows. Rick
 Sent from my iPhone

I used toothpaste once.  I was many, many miles from home when
the rain started.  I had toothpaste in my bag.  The rain
started, late at night.  I pulled under the canopy at a closed
gas station and scrubbed the windshield.  It worked rather well.

I don't know if whitening or floride help or hinder...

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread Allan Streib
Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com writes:

 My problem with cleaning windows has not been the outside, which you
 can experiment on with plenty of room, but with the inside, which is
 concave and at an angle that does not lend itself well to a squeegee. 

I use Windex and newspaper.  About as close to streak-free as I have
ever gotten.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread OK Don
I second the Windex and newspaper - works great.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com writes:

  My problem with cleaning windows has not been the outside, which you
  can experiment on with plenty of room, but with the inside, which is
  concave and at an angle that does not lend itself well to a squeegee.

 I use Windex and newspaper.  About as close to streak-free as I have
 ever gotten.

 Allan
 --
 1983 300D
 1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread Rick Knoble


 From: jgi...@comcast.net
 
 When I got my first car '66 Dodge Charger I used a product called glass wax.
 I bought it at a grocery store. The same thing is being sold as Gel Gloss. 

http://gel-gloss.com/index.php?pageId=354

Looks like good stuff. Did you ever rid your computer/email of that bug?

Rick
  
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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Thank you for reminding me about the newspaper trick. It must be one of the 
most effective ways to clean a window.

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 30, 2011, at 10:20 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

I second the Windex and newspaper - works great.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com writes:

My problem with cleaning windows has not been the outside, which you
can experiment on with plenty of room, but with the inside, which is
concave and at an angle that does not lend itself well to a squeegee.

I use Windex and newspaper.  About as close to streak-free as I have
ever gotten.

Allan
--
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-30 Thread Scott and Gwen Ritchey
How about scraping with a single-edge razor blade?

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On Behalf Of G Mann
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:18 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

Soft Scrub on a sponge/green scrubber is your answer.  It will cling to the
glass or the sponge until you wipe it off with clean water and paper
towel... How you reach the hard to reach areas . hmmm ... Yoga classes?

Try rigging up a sponge on a stick arrangement, perhaps.. a bath squeege
with the scrubber held on with rubber bands tightly?

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote:

 My problem with cleaning windows has not been the outside, which you can
 experiment on with plenty of room, but with the inside, which is concave
 and at an angle that does not lend itself well to a squeegee.
 Then the hard part -  that lower area where you have difficulty
 maneuvering because the angle of the dash with the winshield prevents easy
 movements, and can only be tackled by getting into a contorted position.
 Add to that the problem of introducing a liquid in that region. (I imagine
 there is a more elegant way of expressing this difficulty). I have never
 managed to properly clean the inside of the windshield on a modern car.
 There are always streaks leftover. I've been told that film on the inside
 is plasticizer, a kind of off-gas from all the plastic components inside
 the vehicle. Also been told it is the source of the new car smell.
 I once asked a professional detailer how he does it. His only response was
 that he understood what I was saying and that he faced the same
difficulty.
  I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has conquered this
 problem.

 Jerry
 82 240D


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[MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-29 Thread Craig
Our '82 240D/3.0 hasn't had its windows cleaned in a long while, so
Shirley decided to have at it. She reports that a strong ammonia solution
did NOT clean the windows, that they are still visibly dirty. I noticed
that when I fueled up the car Sunday afternoon. The area on the
windshield where the wiper blades run looked relatively clean, with dirt
on the other regions. Cleaning the windows with the squeegee and solution
did not change things.

Any suggestions on how to solve this problem, short of replacing the
windows? I never heard of glass not cleaning up before.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-29 Thread Allan Streib
Is it water marks?  Some things I've heard work well for cleaning glass,
not tried any of these so do some testing before you go whole hog:

 - Mr. Clean Magic Eraser
 - Jet Dry (the rinse aid you use in your dishwasher)
 - Vinegar
 - Lime-Away

Allan

Craig diese...@pisquared.net writes:

 Our '82 240D/3.0 hasn't had its windows cleaned in a long while, so
 Shirley decided to have at it. She reports that a strong ammonia solution
 did NOT clean the windows, that they are still visibly dirty. I noticed
 that when I fueled up the car Sunday afternoon. The area on the
 windshield where the wiper blades run looked relatively clean, with dirt
 on the other regions. Cleaning the windows with the squeegee and solution
 did not change things.

 Any suggestions on how to solve this problem, short of replacing the
 windows? I never heard of glass not cleaning up before.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning windows

2011-11-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Did you have some paint work done to the car recently? It could be overspray 
which can be removed with clay bar or super fine steel wool. Or perhaps your 
windshield is pitted?

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On Nov 29, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

Our '82 240D/3.0 hasn't had its windows cleaned in a long while, so
Shirley decided to have at it. She reports that a strong ammonia solution
did NOT clean the windows, that they are still visibly dirty. I noticed
that when I fueled up the car Sunday afternoon. The area on the
windshield where the wiper blades run looked relatively clean, with dirt
on the other regions. Cleaning the windows with the squeegee and solution
did not change things.

Any suggestions on how to solve this problem, short of replacing the
windows? I never heard of glass not cleaning up before.


Craig

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