Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.
I'm surprised at gelled fuel, its not really that cold out. I've driven in much colder and not had gelled fuel. I suppose you might have a supplier that doesn't properly adjust for the temps in which case it might be worth telling them. Might be that there was some water. Do you de-water your fuel spring and fall? -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:53:51 -0800 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: b11f7130-f2e3-4fe8-803d-4b9a14fe1...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not sure how old your car is, but used to be you could use around a gallon of 87 octane per tank to thin it out. At least that is what owners manual said for Gump. clay On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:21 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure if block heater worked but it started after three cranks! I ended up getting gelled up on 295 just outside of Portland. I dumped a half quart of PowerService Diesel 911 and it started right up! That stuff is amazing! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dimitri. My thermometer is reading -4F. Hope your block heater works! Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.
Huh? How do you dewater fuel in the tank?? On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm surprised at gelled fuel, its not really that cold out. I've driven in much colder and not had gelled fuel. I suppose you might have a supplier that doesn't properly adjust for the temps in which case it might be worth telling them. Might be that there was some water. Do you de-water your fuel spring and fall? -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:53:51 -0800 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: b11f7130-f2e3-4fe8-803d-4b9a14fe1...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not sure how old your car is, but used to be you could use around a gallon of 87 octane per tank to thin it out. At least that is what owners manual said for Gump. clay On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:21 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure if block heater worked but it started after three cranks! I ended up getting gelled up on 295 just outside of Portland. I dumped a half quart of PowerService Diesel 911 and it started right up! That stuff is amazing! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dimitri. My thermometer is reading -4F. Hope your block heater works! Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Drygas, specifically iso-alcohol. Seafoam and Power Service Diesel Supplement tout the same... -Curt Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 11:03:18 -0500 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: CAC35L=t6qq9gumqurlj1_kazmfnr+wi-vwo6m0sk4burvjd...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Huh? How do you dewater fuel in the tank?? On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm surprised at gelled fuel, its not really that cold out. I've driven in much colder and not had gelled fuel. I suppose you might have a supplier that doesn't properly adjust for the temps in which case it might be worth telling them. Might be that there was some water. Do you de-water your fuel spring and fall? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.
Use an additive made for that purpose. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Huh? How do you dewater fuel in the tank?? On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm surprised at gelled fuel, its not really that cold out. I've driven in much colder and not had gelled fuel. I suppose you might have a supplier that doesn't properly adjust for the temps in which case it might be worth telling them. Might be that there was some water. Do you de-water your fuel spring and fall? -Curt Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:53:51 -0800 From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: b11f7130-f2e3-4fe8-803d-4b9a14fe1...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not sure how old your car is, but used to be you could use around a gallon of 87 octane per tank to thin it out. At least that is what owners manual said for Gump. clay On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:21 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure if block heater worked but it started after three cranks! I ended up getting gelled up on 295 just outside of Portland. I dumped a half quart of PowerService Diesel 911 and it started right up! That stuff is amazing! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dimitri. My thermometer is reading -4F. Hope your block heater works! Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Philip, Thanks for the flexing ideaI was trying to take the other side out first. I took a photo of the hood release mechanism. I'll see if I can figure out how to post. Jon On Jan 23, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Fmiser wrote: Jon Agne wrote: I went to plug in the block heater last night, and the hood release would not move. I have the plug situated _outside_ so the hood stays closed when plugged in. The plastic cap over the contacts keeps it relatively clean and dry. There must be some secret to removing the kickpanel under the steering wheelseems caught over by the heater duct. Yup. The secret is to flex the panel. I get the end by the transmission tunnel out first/in last. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dimitri. My thermometer is reading -4F. Hope your block heater works! Jon On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:26 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Yup, protectent wax for the pads of his feet. Seems to help some but down in single digits probably nothing helps all that much. I've never tried shoes on him, he's pretty tolerant, might take to them, probably just easier to stay inside when its real cold out. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 17:10:50 -0700 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: 20130123171050.733b2a3ab786cf1d50794...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:53:49 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: About the same here, the dog really wanted to go for a walk. I took him but he walked funny the whole way. I could tell his paws were bothered. That was even after I put paw wax on him. Paw wax? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.
Not sure if block heater worked but it started after three cranks! I ended up getting gelled up on 295 just outside of Portland. I dumped a half quart of PowerService Diesel 911 and it started right up! That stuff is amazing! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dimitri. My thermometer is reading -4F. Hope your block heater works! Jon On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:26 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 23/01/2013 10:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: 13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Inside your house? Randy Are you sure about that? We have our thermostat set to keep the inside of the house at 21.5. IF you are at 13.6, it must be a bit chilly in there. On a similar point, I noted this morning, because I have been watching the temps in Hawaii since our visit there and in Ottawa where my elder son resides, that: The forecast for Honolulu was 27 and 19 while the forecast for Ottawa was -27 and -19. I think I prefer the Honolulu version. Randy in Winnipeg where we may actually warm up a bit this weekend ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's 56.4 degrees. Warmer than I keep my house! Oil is expensive. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 23/01/2013 10:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: 13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Inside your house? Randy Are you sure about that? We have our thermostat set to keep the inside of the house at 21.5. IF you are at 13.6, it must be a bit chilly in there. On a similar point, I noted this morning, because I have been watching the temps in Hawaii since our visit there and in Ottawa where my elder son resides, that: The forecast for Honolulu was 27 and 19 while the forecast for Ottawa was -27 and -19. I think I prefer the Honolulu version. Randy in Winnipeg where we may actually warm up a bit this weekend ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:26:19 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: 510160ab.1020...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 23/01/2013 10:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: 13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Inside your house? Randy Are you sure about that? We have our thermostat set to keep the inside of the house at 21.5. IF you are at 13.6, it must be a bit chilly in there. On a similar point, I noted this morning, because I have been watching the temps in Hawaii since our visit there and in Ottawa where my elder son resides, that: The forecast for Honolulu was 27 and 19 while the forecast for Ottawa was -27 and -19. I think I prefer the Honolulu version. Randy in Winnipeg where we may actually warm up a bit this weekend Actually I'd say you keep your house on the warm side, we set ours more like 18C and occasionally let it dip as low as 16.6C -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.
Not sure how old your car is, but used to be you could use around a gallon of 87 octane per tank to thin it out. At least that is what owners manual said for Gump. clay On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:21 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Not sure if block heater worked but it started after three cranks! I ended up getting gelled up on 295 just outside of Portland. I dumped a half quart of PowerService Diesel 911 and it started right up! That stuff is amazing! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dimitri. My thermometer is reading -4F. Hope your block heater works! Jon On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:26 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cold weather starting.
My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:26:11 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Congratulations! What oil are you using? Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. That's a good idea. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.
Mobil1 5w40 turbo diesel truck. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:26:11 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Congratulations! What oil are you using? Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. That's a good idea. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:26:11 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Congratulations! What oil are you using? Rabble rouser. :) My 300D started at 20F this morning, it took a little longer than usual - a couple spins. I think I let it glow too long. Interestingly, I had some trouble with the automatic shifting correctly on the way to work. Apparently my dilly-dallying about changing the transmission fluid was not a good thing - the symptoms are much worse in the cold. Drove it in second and it was fine once it warmed up, really have to do that change once the weather turns again. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I got out of bed successfully this monring. It was 13.6 F. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:26:11 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Congratulations! What oil are you using? Rabble rouser. :) My 300D started at 20F this morning, it took a little longer than usual - a couple spins. I think I let it glow too long. Interestingly, I had some trouble with the automatic shifting correctly on the way to work. Apparently my dilly-dallying about changing the transmission fluid was not a good thing - the symptoms are much worse in the cold. Drove it in second and it was fine once it warmed up, really have to do that change once the weather turns again. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Inside your house? Randy On 23/01/2013 11:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I got out of bed successfully this monring. It was 13.6 F. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:26:11 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Congratulations! What oil are you using? Rabble rouser. :) My 300D started at 20F this morning, it took a little longer than usual - a couple spins. I think I let it glow too long. Interestingly, I had some trouble with the automatic shifting correctly on the way to work. Apparently my dilly-dallying about changing the transmission fluid was not a good thing - the symptoms are much worse in the cold. Drove it in second and it was fine once it warmed up, really have to do that change once the weather turns again. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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LOL!!! On 1/23/2013 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Inside your house? Randy On 23/01/2013 11:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I got out of bed successfully this monring. It was 13.6 F. -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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T'was 1F here this morning. Angie took the Ranger to work as I need to put the snows on the 190D. My 240D wouldn't start with it colder than about 15F a couple years ago. Now with whatever damage the overheating did plus the massively thick Lucas oil additive (only maybe 1/2 pint but still) in the crankcase it didn't have a chance without added heat. Last night on the way home from a customer site the 190D had a thrashing whacking noise, I pulled over and it went away. Didn't come back for ~30 miles and again I pulled over and it went away. I *think* it might be a CV joint but I'll be taking a look under the car today when I change tires. I did take a gander under the hood and found nothing amiss... -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:49:36 -0500 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: CAC35L=vxrps9x4daku+mm_zutdechqaw5zmyvahc4lrbof-...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I got out of bed successfully this monring. It was 13.6 F. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:26:11 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Congratulations! What oil are you using? Rabble rouser. :) My 300D started at 20F this morning, it took a little longer than usual - a couple spins. I think I let it glow too long. Interestingly, I had some trouble with the automatic shifting correctly on the way to work. Apparently my dilly-dallying about changing the transmission fluid was not a good thing - the symptoms are much worse in the cold. Drove it in second and it was fine once it warmed up, really have to do that change once the weather turns again. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dimitri, I saw you were started and gone before me. I went to plug in the block heater last night, and the hood release would not move. This morning, I went through two glow cycles and she started, but you could tell she was not liking it! After letting her warm up for about 30 minutes, the hood release worked. Unfortunately, after driving to Portland and back, the handle on the hood release broke, so I have used vice grips to plug her back in. There must be some secret to removing the kickpanel under the steering wheelseems caught over by the heater duct. Jon On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:26 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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At 2pm, it was 4F.Br! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.
John, I know that there is a screw that holds it up by the pivot of the emergency brake pedal. As for the console side by the accelerator pedal, I think it just snaps or fits in a recess in the metal brackets there. I don't recall there being a fastener in that area. Dan On Jan 23, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dimitri, I saw you were started and gone before me. I went to plug in the block heater last night, and the hood release would not move. This morning, I went through two glow cycles and she started, but you could tell she was not liking it! After letting her warm up for about 30 minutes, the hood release worked. Unfortunately, after driving to Portland and back, the handle on the hood release broke, so I have used vice grips to plug her back in. There must be some secret to removing the kickpanel under the steering wheelseems caught over by the heater duct. Jon On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:26 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug in the block heater. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.
Minus 15 F here now at 2 PM. Has been cold for a few days and somewhat windy - surprise ??? We are on the prairies. Supposed to warm up a bit this weekend. Randy On 23/01/2013 12:51 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: T'was 1F here this morning. Angie took the Ranger to work as I need to put the snows on the 190D. My 240D wouldn't start with it colder than about 15F a couple years ago. Now with whatever damage the overheating did plus the massively thick Lucas oil additive (only maybe 1/2 pint but still) in the crankcase it didn't have a chance without added heat. Last night on the way home from a customer site the 190D had a thrashing whacking noise, I pulled over and it went away. Didn't come back for ~30 miles and again I pulled over and it went away. I *think* it might be a CV joint but I'll be taking a look under the car today when I change tires. I did take a gander under the hood and found nothing amiss... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.
Jon Agne wrote: I went to plug in the block heater last night, and the hood release would not move. I have the plug situated _outside_ so the hood stays closed when plugged in. The plastic cap over the contacts keeps it relatively clean and dry. There must be some secret to removing the kickpanel under the steering wheelseems caught over by the heater duct. Yup. The secret is to flex the panel. I get the end by the transmission tunnel out first/in last. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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About the same here, the dog really wanted to go for a walk. I took him but he walked funny the whole way. I could tell his paws were bothered. That was even after I put paw wax on him. When we got home he didn't want me touching his feet. I'm glad I kept the walk short. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:10:38 -0500 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: b17c5277-b659-458b-9431-626e30c40...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii At 2pm, it was 4F.Br! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Our Bichon gets cabin fever this time of year. He wants to go for his walk but it is just too cold. So, all evening, he wants to go in and out. Ugh! Randy On 23/01/2013 3:53 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: About the same here, the dog really wanted to go for a walk. I took him but he walked funny the whole way. I could tell his paws were bothered. That was even after I put paw wax on him. When we got home he didn't want me touching his feet. I'm glad I kept the walk short. -Curt Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:10:38 -0500 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting. Message-ID: b17c5277-b659-458b-9431-626e30c40...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii At 2pm, it was 4F.Br! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:53:49 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: About the same here, the dog really wanted to go for a walk. I took him but he walked funny the whole way. I could tell his paws were bothered. That was even after I put paw wax on him. Paw wax? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Inside your house? Randy On 23/01/2013 11:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I got out of bed successfully this monring. It was 13.6 F. On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:26:11 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest I've ever tried to start a diesel. Congratulations! What oil are you using? Rabble rouser. :) My 300D started at 20F this morning, it took a little longer than usual - a couple spins. I think I let it glow too long. Interestingly, I had some trouble with the automatic shifting correctly on the way to work. Apparently my dilly-dallying about changing the transmission fluid was not a good thing - the symptoms are much worse in the cold. Drove it in second and it was fine once it warmed up, really have to do that change once the weather turns again. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
