[MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread Harry Watkins
To all,

What am I facing?  It came off when wife was about a 1/4 mile from the house
and she got it close to the house.  It stayed with the car, wedged against
the fan shroud and supported by the belts.  1981, manual transmission.

Harry Watkins
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans





Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread degcoast
You are facing selling it to Kaleb (or me ) for 500 dollars. Did the bolt 
break or just come loose and drop off?


Dwight Giles
1979 240D auto 244k + miles
Wickford, RI
Bissell Cove Quahog  Auto Salvage
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Subject: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D



To all,

What am I facing?  It came off when wife was about a 1/4 mile from the 
house

and she got it close to the house.  It stayed with the car, wedged against
the fan shroud and supported by the belts.  1981, manual transmission.

Harry Watkins
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans



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Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread Steve MacSween
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 What am I facing?  It came off when wife was about a 1/4 mile from the house
 and she got it close to the house.  It stayed with the car, wedged against
 the fan shroud and supported by the belts.  1981, manual transmission.

The outcome here depends on the threads, in other words did the bolt just
gradually back out or are the threads damaged?

Best case: you get a new bolt, and you live happily ever after.

If the threads are damaged, in theory you can try to machine the crank but
no one I have talked to supports that on a diesel, in practice.

The alternative is a new crank.

I don't enjoy telling you this, but it's based on my own experience a few
years ago. I was lucky... the bolt went in, tightened okay and everyone
breathed a sigh of relief... when it was still there a couple of months
later.

Was your engine rebuilt at some point?

Mac




Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread Loren Faeth
Happened to my 81 also.  It was the pulleys, not the damper.  Some bolts 
snapped, some loose.  take out the pulleys and you should be able to 
unscrew the broken off bolts.  A dremel or die grinder to cut screwdriver 
slots may help.  Buy 6 new allen head capscrews.  (Rusty or an industrial 
supply place)   Put the belts on the damper, put the pulleys on the damper 
and put the bolts in.


If the damper truly is off, then you have lost the big bolt and 
washer.  best found from a salvage engine.  Make sure the alignment pins 
are in place and that you have the damper aligned properly so tdc is when 
the engine is at TDC.  Replace big bolt and torque it good.



At 08:55 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:

To all,

What am I facing?  It came off when wife was about a 1/4 mile from the house
and she got it close to the house.  It stayed with the car, wedged against
the fan shroud and supported by the belts.  1981, manual transmission.

Harry Watkins
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans



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Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread OK Don
I'm starting to see atrend here - should anyone with a 616 engine
tighten or replace the bolts as a preventative measure? How many miles
on the engines when this occured?

On 7/6/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Happened to my 81 also.  
-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL 280k miles
'81 240D, 185k miles
'78 450SLC 80k miles



Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread Harry Watkins
280K on mine.  Replacement of the bolt sounds like a good idea.  I don't
think tightening would be wise.  Is locktite used?

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans

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I'm starting to see atrend here - should anyone with a 616 engine
tighten or replace the bolts as a preventative measure? How many miles
on the engines when this occured?





Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread Chuck Landenberger


On Wednesday, July 6, 2005, at 07:41  PM, Steve MacSween wrote:


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What am I facing?  It came off when wife was about a 1/4 mile from 
the house
and she got it close to the house.  It stayed with the car, wedged 
against

the fan shroud and supported by the belts.  1981, manual transmission.


I had the dampener/balancer and pulleys come off my OM617 twice..

First time near an MB dealer and the resident gorilla w/a 4 foot bar 
put everything back together again..  A hundred thousand miles 
later, it came loose again..  Got it to my Phoenix indy  
Dampener slot was damaged, but crank OK.  He got a used 
dampener/balancer and new dowels.  It's all back together and 
runs great...


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix, AZ
1980 300SD.




RE: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread Potter, Tom E
I definitely suggest that you get new bolts AND WASHERS. As I remember,
the washer on the big bolt is deformed, and a new one is the only way to
get the proper retaining tension. All new bolts and washers (including
the big washer) cost me about $20 from the dealer.

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


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...best found from a salvage engine.



RE: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D

2005-07-07 Thread Potter, Tom E
It is a common problem. I am not sure if it is a design problem or occurs after 
a PO (or their mechanic) failed to torque the bolts properly. The large bolt is 
VERY difficult to torque, as you must find some method to keep the crankshaft 
from turning whist you apply the torque. I would suggest an annual check of the 
dampener bolt torque.

Thomas E. Potter
Telephone: (713) 215-2877
Fax: (713) 215-2551
Mobile: (832) 794-0536


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Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft dampner off on 240D


I'm starting to see atrend here - should anyone with a 616 engine
tighten or replace the bolts as a preventative measure? How many miles
on the engines when this occured?

On 7/6/05, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Happened to my 81 also.  
-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL 280k miles
'81 240D, 185k miles
'78 450SLC 80k miles

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