Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
Not really, $4,000 over the v6 or $3,000 over the 5.7l v8. Let me remind y'all about the other end of the stick: resale. For the Cummins trucks, it _still_ looks like you get every bit of the purchase premium back out, no matter how old the truck is. At least, around here. If the 1500 truck's drivetrain holds up well, I'd expect similar behavior. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
I am amazed at how much old junky dodges with cummins sells for around here. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not really, $4,000 over the v6 or $3,000 over the 5.7l v8. Let me remind y'all about the other end of the stick: resale. For the Cummins trucks, it _still_ looks like you get every bit of the purchase premium back out, no matter how old the truck is. At least, around here. If the 1500 truck's drivetrain holds up well, I'd expect similar behavior. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
Having driven one I am too, its not a refined engine, more like my 240D (with much more power of course) than my TDI. That said I haven't driven any of the competition to compare. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel I am amazed at how much old junky dodges with cummins sells for around here. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not really, $4,000 over the v6 or $3,000 over the 5.7l v8. Let me remind y'all about the other end of the stick: resale. For the Cummins trucks, it _still_ looks like you get every bit of the purchase premium back out, no matter how old the truck is. At least, around here. If the 1500 truck's drivetrain holds up well, I'd expect similar behavior. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
The dealers like to up-option the crap out of them. Its easy to spend $50k with the big cab, leather interior, fancy radio etc. The one we drove was right on $40,000. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel The ones I have seen down here were north of 50k Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Not really, $4,000 over the v6 or $3,000 over the 5.7l v8. It'd be interesting to see a mileage test with loaded trucks. I'd guess that loaded up the diesel will get much better mpg and the better torque will make it more pleasant to drive. The 8spd transmission that comes standard with the diesel is silky smooth. Apparently its German. Playing with the build and price online the Dodge is about $3,000 less than a Ford F150 when set up the way I'd want it, almost enough to pay for the diesel. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel That Eco diesel is very nice, and very expensive Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Got a chance to drive a Dodge 1500 eco diesel yesterday at our local Dodge dealership. This is definitely not a 24 valve Cummins. Much more Mercedes like engine which isn't a big surprise as its European. We also drove a 5.7l Hemi V8 which gave a nice comparison. For just driving around they make similar power. The gas engine actually makes MORE noise, they've obviously worked very hard to make the diesel very quiet. Looking at the engine its small, it looks like the V6 in my Ranger. Power-wise for acceleration they're similar which makes sense when you look at the numbers, I suspect if you're moving a lot of weight on a regular basis the diesel would do it for much less fuel. The gasser is supposed to average 15mpg, the diesel is rated for 22. For comparison my '03 Ranger only 15... The diesel is supposed to do 27mpg on the highway. I usually beat EPA expectations so I bet 30 won't be that hard to get. The truck is nice, has a dial for gear selection although our gasser model was stripped down and had a conventional column shifter. Dodge only does 4 door extended cabs, not an access cab like the Ford we had tried but the two trucks we drove had shorter rear doors. One feature I really liked on the Dodge was the mirrors flip up for towing. Both that we tried had satellite radio which I hate paying extra for since I probably won't pay the subscription. If I were going to buy one for me, considering my truck needs I'd buy the gasser. If I had a business or a farm where towing or hauling loads was normal but we didn't need a 2500 I'd buy the diesel. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
Well that's not too bad but still a lot ok my mind for a pickup truck Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The dealers like to up-option the crap out of them. Its easy to spend $50k with the big cab, leather interior, fancy radio etc. The one we drove was right on $40,000. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel The ones I have seen down here were north of 50k Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Not really, $4,000 over the v6 or $3,000 over the 5.7l v8. It'd be interesting to see a mileage test with loaded trucks. I'd guess that loaded up the diesel will get much better mpg and the better torque will make it more pleasant to drive. The 8spd transmission that comes standard with the diesel is silky smooth. Apparently its German. Playing with the build and price online the Dodge is about $3,000 less than a Ford F150 when set up the way I'd want it, almost enough to pay for the diesel. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel That Eco diesel is very nice, and very expensive Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Got a chance to drive a Dodge 1500 eco diesel yesterday at our local Dodge dealership. This is definitely not a 24 valve Cummins. Much more Mercedes like engine which isn't a big surprise as its European. We also drove a 5.7l Hemi V8 which gave a nice comparison. For just driving around they make similar power. The gas engine actually makes MORE noise, they've obviously worked very hard to make the diesel very quiet. Looking at the engine its small, it looks like the V6 in my Ranger. Power-wise for acceleration they're similar which makes sense when you look at the numbers, I suspect if you're moving a lot of weight on a regular basis the diesel would do it for much less fuel. The gasser is supposed to average 15mpg, the diesel is rated for 22. For comparison my '03 Ranger only 15... The diesel is supposed to do 27mpg on the highway. I usually beat EPA expectations so I bet 30 won't be that hard to get. The truck is nice, has a dial for gear selection although our gasser model was stripped down and had a conventional column shifter. Dodge only does 4 door extended cabs, not an access cab like the Ford we had tried but the two trucks we drove had shorter rear doors. One feature I really liked on the Dodge was the mirrors flip up for towing. Both that we tried had satellite radio which I hate paying extra for since I probably won't pay the subscription. If I were going to buy one for me, considering my truck needs I'd buy the gasser. If I had a business or a farm where towing or hauling loads was normal but we didn't need a 2500 I'd buy the diesel. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
i rented in Italy a Lancia meenievayan which was a Plymouth Voyager with the Lancia name. It had a diesel, not sure what kind but it was plenty peppy and got good L/km which near as I figured was in the mid-30s in our terms. Made me wonder why not here? --R On 9/1/14 9:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Got a chance to drive a Dodge 1500 eco diesel yesterday at our local Dodge dealership. This is definitely not a 24 valve Cummins. Much more Mercedes like engine which isn't a big surprise as its European. We also drove a 5.7l Hemi V8 which gave a nice comparison. For just driving around they make similar power. The gas engine actually makes MORE noise, they've obviously worked very hard to make the diesel very quiet. Looking at the engine its small, it looks like the V6 in my Ranger. Power-wise for acceleration they're similar which makes sense when you look at the numbers, I suspect if you're moving a lot of weight on a regular basis the diesel would do it for much less fuel. The gasser is supposed to average 15mpg, the diesel is rated for 22. For comparison my '03 Ranger only 15... The diesel is supposed to do 27mpg on the highway. I usually beat EPA expectations so I bet 30 won't be that hard to get. The truck is nice, has a dial for gear selection although our gasser model was stripped down and had a conventional column shifter. Dodge only does 4 door extended cabs, not an access cab like the Ford we had tried but the two trucks we drove had shorter rear doors. One feature I really liked on the Dodge was the mirrors flip up for towing. Both that we tried had satellite radio which I hate paying extra for since I probably won't pay the subscription. If I were going to buy one for me, considering my truck needs I'd buy the gasser. If I had a business or a farm where towing or hauling loads was normal but we didn't need a 2500 I'd buy the diesel. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
Yeah I've really had to recalibrate my pricing for this truck. We bought the Ranger in '08 with 25,000 miles for $10,000. Today $10k doesn't buy much in a 4wd truck. You'd be looking at 10 years old with 150,000 miles and probably significant rust. Talking to the dealers the deal I got in '08 is because the price of gas went up and people traded in trucks on cars. Then cash for clunkers ate up a bunch of perfectly good trucks. Since used trucks are expensive the new truck market is high to match. I think the best deal I've found so far is a 1 owner 2010 Nissan Titan with 34,000 miles, they want $25k. They've had it a couple months, I'm thinking to stroll in with a $20k offer. Financing on used trucks sucks though... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel Well that's not too bad but still a lot ok my mind for a pickup truck Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The dealers like to up-option the crap out of them. Its easy to spend $50k with the big cab, leather interior, fancy radio etc. The one we drove was right on $40,000. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel The ones I have seen down here were north of 50k Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Not really, $4,000 over the v6 or $3,000 over the 5.7l v8. It'd be interesting to see a mileage test with loaded trucks. I'd guess that loaded up the diesel will get much better mpg and the better torque will make it more pleasant to drive. The 8spd transmission that comes standard with the diesel is silky smooth. Apparently its German. Playing with the build and price online the Dodge is about $3,000 less than a Ford F150 when set up the way I'd want it, almost enough to pay for the diesel. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel That Eco diesel is very nice, and very expensive Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Got a chance to drive a Dodge 1500 eco diesel yesterday at our local Dodge dealership. This is definitely not a 24 valve Cummins. Much more Mercedes like engine which isn't a big surprise as its European. We also drove a 5.7l Hemi V8 which gave a nice comparison. For just driving around they make similar power. The gas engine actually makes MORE noise, they've obviously worked very hard to make the diesel very quiet. Looking at the engine its small, it looks like the V6 in my Ranger. Power-wise for acceleration they're similar which makes sense when you look at the numbers, I suspect if you're moving a lot of weight on a regular basis the diesel would do it for much less fuel. The gasser is supposed to average 15mpg, the diesel is rated for 22. For comparison my '03 Ranger only 15... The diesel is supposed to do 27mpg on the highway. I usually beat EPA expectations so I bet 30 won't be that hard to get. The truck is nice, has a dial for gear selection although our gasser model was stripped down and had a conventional column shifter. Dodge only does 4 door extended cabs, not an access cab like the Ford we had tried but the two trucks we drove had shorter rear doors. One feature I really liked on the Dodge was the mirrors flip up for towing. Both that we tried had satellite radio which I hate paying extra for since I probably won't pay the subscription. If I were going to buy one for me, considering my truck needs I'd buy the gasser. If I had a business or a farm where towing or hauling loads was normal but we didn't need a 2500 I'd buy the diesel. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
On 01/09/2014 10:40 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes wrote: Went to the local market yesterday. Pulled into parking space next to a 1500 EcoDiesel. Went did did my shopping. when I returned to mu car the owner of the Dodge was loading up his groceries. We had a 20 min chat about the truck. He's had his for 3 months. Just filled it up and he says he gets 25~26 mpg mixed driving 22~23 city only. Two weeks ago he went from Baton Rouge to Jeff City, Mizzery. Averaged 31~32 on the road with it. He was well pleased with the performance and the power the little diesel had. I asked him if he had to do over again if he would buy it or another brand with a gasser. His answer was Hell Yes I'd buy it again in a heart beat. But it sure would be nice to be able to afford to swap it about the time that the warranty expired. Repairing vehicles these days tends to be pretty expensive and diesel just seems to makes it worse. These might turn out to be very good engines or they might not. Only time will tell. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
Time already has, the engines are VM Motori, in use in Italy in medium duty trucks for several years. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel On 01/09/2014 10:40 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes wrote: Went to the local market yesterday. Pulled into parking space next to a 1500 EcoDiesel. Went did did my shopping. when I returned to mu car the owner of the Dodge was loading up his groceries. We had a 20 min chat about the truck. He's had his for 3 months. Just filled it up and he says he gets 25~26 mpg mixed driving 22~23 city only. Two weeks ago he went from Baton Rouge to Jeff City, Mizzery. Averaged 31~32 on the road with it. He was well pleased with the performance and the power the little diesel had. I asked him if he had to do over again if he would buy it or another brand with a gasser. His answer was Hell Yes I'd buy it again in a heart beat. But it sure would be nice to be able to afford to swap it about the time that the warranty expired. Repairing vehicles these days tends to be pretty expensive and diesel just seems to makes it worse. These might turn out to be very good engines or they might not. Only time will tell. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
Speaking of Cummins powered utes http://fotonmotors.com.au/foton/default.asp?gclid=CIGKs5SDxMACFQF9vQod82MASA I can see a lot tight fisted farmers getting these. Hendrik who doesn't have a Cummins engine On 03/09/14 01:15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Having driven one I am too, its not a refined engine, more like my 240D (with much more power of course) than my TDI. That said I haven't driven any of the competition to compare. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel I am amazed at how much old junky dodges with cummins sells for around here. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
Typical, everyone else gets small efficient diesel-engine powered trucks, but back here in 'Merica, no soup for you!. Rather ironic this Chinee truck is sporting a Cummins 4-cylinder turbo-diesel, but nobody offers that engine here at home. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 2, 2014 10:51 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Speaking of Cummins powered utes http://fotonmotors.com.au/foton/default.asp?gclid=CIGKs5SDxMACFQF9vQod82MASA I can see a lot tight fisted farmers getting these. Hendrik who doesn't have a Cummins engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
Got a chance to drive a Dodge 1500 eco diesel yesterday at our local Dodge dealership. This is definitely not a 24 valve Cummins. Much more Mercedes like engine which isn't a big surprise as its European. We also drove a 5.7l Hemi V8 which gave a nice comparison. For just driving around they make similar power. The gas engine actually makes MORE noise, they've obviously worked very hard to make the diesel very quiet. Looking at the engine its small, it looks like the V6 in my Ranger. Power-wise for acceleration they're similar which makes sense when you look at the numbers, I suspect if you're moving a lot of weight on a regular basis the diesel would do it for much less fuel. The gasser is supposed to average 15mpg, the diesel is rated for 22. For comparison my '03 Ranger only 15... The diesel is supposed to do 27mpg on the highway. I usually beat EPA expectations so I bet 30 won't be that hard to get. The truck is nice, has a dial for gear selection although our gasser model was stripped down and had a conventional column shifter. Dodge only does 4 door extended cabs, not an access cab like the Ford we had tried but the two trucks we drove had shorter rear doors. One feature I really liked on the Dodge was the mirrors flip up for towing. Both that we tried had satellite radio which I hate paying extra for since I probably won't pay the subscription. If I were going to buy one for me, considering my truck needs I'd buy the gasser. If I had a business or a farm where towing or hauling loads was normal but we didn't need a 2500 I'd buy the diesel. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
That Eco diesel is very nice, and very expensive Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Got a chance to drive a Dodge 1500 eco diesel yesterday at our local Dodge dealership. This is definitely not a 24 valve Cummins. Much more Mercedes like engine which isn't a big surprise as its European. We also drove a 5.7l Hemi V8 which gave a nice comparison. For just driving around they make similar power. The gas engine actually makes MORE noise, they've obviously worked very hard to make the diesel very quiet. Looking at the engine its small, it looks like the V6 in my Ranger. Power-wise for acceleration they're similar which makes sense when you look at the numbers, I suspect if you're moving a lot of weight on a regular basis the diesel would do it for much less fuel. The gasser is supposed to average 15mpg, the diesel is rated for 22. For comparison my '03 Ranger only 15... The diesel is supposed to do 27mpg on the highway. I usually beat EPA expectations so I bet 30 won't be that hard to get. The truck is nice, has a dial for gear selection although our gasser model was stripped down and had a conventional column shifter. Dodge only does 4 door extended cabs, not an access cab like the Ford we had tried but the two trucks we drove had shorter rear doors. One feature I really liked on the Dodge was the mirrors flip up for towing. Both that we tried had satellite radio which I hate paying extra for since I probably won't pay the subscription. If I were going to buy one for me, considering my truck needs I'd buy the gasser. If I had a business or a farm where towing or hauling loads was normal but we didn't need a 2500 I'd buy the diesel. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
Not really, $4,000 over the v6 or $3,000 over the 5.7l v8. It'd be interesting to see a mileage test with loaded trucks. I'd guess that loaded up the diesel will get much better mpg and the better torque will make it more pleasant to drive. The 8spd transmission that comes standard with the diesel is silky smooth. Apparently its German. Playing with the build and price online the Dodge is about $3,000 less than a Ford F150 when set up the way I'd want it, almost enough to pay for the diesel. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel That Eco diesel is very nice, and very expensive Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Got a chance to drive a Dodge 1500 eco diesel yesterday at our local Dodge dealership. This is definitely not a 24 valve Cummins. Much more Mercedes like engine which isn't a big surprise as its European. We also drove a 5.7l Hemi V8 which gave a nice comparison. For just driving around they make similar power. The gas engine actually makes MORE noise, they've obviously worked very hard to make the diesel very quiet. Looking at the engine its small, it looks like the V6 in my Ranger. Power-wise for acceleration they're similar which makes sense when you look at the numbers, I suspect if you're moving a lot of weight on a regular basis the diesel would do it for much less fuel. The gasser is supposed to average 15mpg, the diesel is rated for 22. For comparison my '03 Ranger only 15... The diesel is supposed to do 27mpg on the highway. I usually beat EPA expectations so I bet 30 won't be that hard to get. The truck is nice, has a dial for gear selection although our gasser model was stripped down and had a conventional column shifter. Dodge only does 4 door extended cabs, not an access cab like the Ford we had tried but the two trucks we drove had shorter rear doors. One feature I really liked on the Dodge was the mirrors flip up for towing. Both that we tried had satellite radio which I hate paying extra for since I probably won't pay the subscription. If I were going to buy one for me, considering my truck needs I'd buy the gasser. If I had a business or a farm where towing or hauling loads was normal but we didn't need a 2500 I'd buy the diesel. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
The ones I have seen down here were north of 50k Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Not really, $4,000 over the v6 or $3,000 over the 5.7l v8. It'd be interesting to see a mileage test with loaded trucks. I'd guess that loaded up the diesel will get much better mpg and the better torque will make it more pleasant to drive. The 8spd transmission that comes standard with the diesel is silky smooth. Apparently its German. Playing with the build and price online the Dodge is about $3,000 less than a Ford F150 when set up the way I'd want it, almost enough to pay for the diesel. -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel That Eco diesel is very nice, and very expensive Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Got a chance to drive a Dodge 1500 eco diesel yesterday at our local Dodge dealership. This is definitely not a 24 valve Cummins. Much more Mercedes like engine which isn't a big surprise as its European. We also drove a 5.7l Hemi V8 which gave a nice comparison. For just driving around they make similar power. The gas engine actually makes MORE noise, they've obviously worked very hard to make the diesel very quiet. Looking at the engine its small, it looks like the V6 in my Ranger. Power-wise for acceleration they're similar which makes sense when you look at the numbers, I suspect if you're moving a lot of weight on a regular basis the diesel would do it for much less fuel. The gasser is supposed to average 15mpg, the diesel is rated for 22. For comparison my '03 Ranger only 15... The diesel is supposed to do 27mpg on the highway. I usually beat EPA expectations so I bet 30 won't be that hard to get. The truck is nice, has a dial for gear selection although our gasser model was stripped down and had a conventional column shifter. Dodge only does 4 door extended cabs, not an access cab like the Ford we had tried but the two trucks we drove had shorter rear doors. One feature I really liked on the Dodge was the mirrors flip up for towing. Both that we tried had satellite radio which I hate paying extra for since I probably won't pay the subscription. If I were going to buy one for me, considering my truck needs I'd buy the gasser. If I had a business or a farm where towing or hauling loads was normal but we didn't need a 2500 I'd buy the diesel. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
Went to the local market yesterday. Pulled into parking space next to a 1500 EcoDiesel. Went did did my shopping. when I returned to mu car the owner of the Dodge was loading up his groceries. We had a 20 min chat about the truck. He's had his for 3 months. Just filled it up and he says he gets 25~26 mpg mixed driving 22~23 city only. Two weeks ago he went from Baton Rouge to Jeff City, Mizzery. Averaged 31~32 on the road with it. He was well pleased with the performance and the power the little diesel had. I asked him if he had to do over again if he would buy it or another brand with a gasser. His answer was Hell Yes I'd buy it again in a heart beat. On Mon,9/1/14 20:49, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Got a chance to drive a Dodge 1500 eco diesel yesterday at our local Dodge dealership. This is definitely not a 24 valve Cummins. Much more Mercedes like engine which isn't a big surprise as its European. We also drove a 5.7l Hemi V8 which gave a nice comparison. For just driving around they make similar power. The gas engine actually makes MORE noise, they've obviously worked very hard to make the diesel very quiet. Looking at the engine its small, it looks like the V6 in my Ranger. Power-wise for acceleration they're similar which makes sense when you look at the numbers, I suspect if you're moving a lot of weight on a regular basis the diesel would do it for much less fuel. The gasser is supposed to average 15mpg, the diesel is rated for 22. For comparison my '03 Ranger only 15... The diesel is supposed to do 27mpg on the highway. I usually beat EPA expectations so I bet 30 won't be that hard to get. The truck is nice, has a dial for gear selection although our gasser model was stripped down and had a conventional column shifter. Dodge only does 4 door extended cabs, not an access cab like the Ford we had tried but the two trucks we drove had shorter rear doors. One feature I really liked on the Dodge was the mirrors flip up for towing. Both that we tried had satellite radio which I hate paying extra for since I probably won't pay the subscription. If I were going to buy one for me, considering my truck needs I'd buy the gasser. If I had a business or a farm where towing or hauling loads was normal but we didn't need a 2500 I'd buy the diesel. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4015/8138 - Release Date: 09/01/14 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
