Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws
Thanks for the warning. I cams down with a cold (or flu) and haven't accomplished anything in over a week. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws > And I do hope Scott's replacement went faster than mine! You all inspired me to give thus another go. I found I couldn't make the latch turn all the way using the new striker, even out of the car. With some trepidation I took off the back left and... It worked! I found that the new latch had a little plastic bit on the bottom, and the old one's was long gone. Apparently my front latch was low enough in the channel that the rubber strip was preventing the latch flipping. I broke off the back rubber piece and put the new striker in, and within a couple positions had it so the door would close reliably. It's still not perfect but the door is closing 75% of the time - next time I'm waiting to meet someone I'll get it to 100% no problem. :) Thanks all for the help and inspiration! -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws
> And I do hope Scott's replacement went faster than mine! You all inspired me to give thus another go. I found I couldn't make the latch turn all the way using the new striker, even out of the car. With some trepidation I took off the back left and... It worked! I found that the new latch had a little plastic bit on the bottom, and the old one's was long gone. Apparently my front latch was low enough in the channel that the rubber strip was preventing the latch flipping. I broke off the back rubber piece and put the new striker in, and within a couple positions had it so the door would close reliably. It's still not perfect but the door is closing 75% of the time - next time I'm waiting to meet someone I'll get it to 100% no problem. :) Thanks all for the help and inspiration! -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: > Take a look at your door strike and compare it to one on a working door. > There is a small piece of plastic in the bottom that sticks out just a > little bit on a good one. This piece is what usually fails and causes the > door not to latch all of the way. Make sure that piece is there or no > amount of tinkering will get it right. Yep, it's new from Q. The old one did not have the plastic bit, and while it worked for a few years it suddenly failed; I assumed the protrusion had just broken off then. I expected it would just start working again when replaced, but I can't get it right. I will check the latch as Barry mentioned, that would also explain the sudden failure I suppose. The back right also doesn't have the protrusion but it will close with moderate force; I have the part but haven't been brave enough to replace that striker yet since it's still kind-of working. :) And I do hope Scott's replacement went faster than mine! Thanks! -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws
Take a look at your door strike and compare it to one on a working door. There is a small piece of plastic in the bottom that sticks out just a little bit on a good one. This piece is what usually fails and causes the door not to latch all of the way. Make sure that piece is there or no amount of tinkering will get it right. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws
Tim - This probably isn't the problem if the latch was working before you messed with the striker but I had a problem like that once with my 107 door latch. Turned out that there was a sort of hairpin spring in the door latch assy. That broke in half and didn't allow the latch to cock or reset to the ready to latch position. As I recall I could manually re-cock the latch and then it would close normally. You could try that as a check. The bad part is that the spring is only available as part of the latch assy. Barry >I can't get the second latching on my striker > no matter how I position it. I get the first latch no problem but even > at the outermost position the latch part doesn't flip the second time. Is > there a trick to setting these things up? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws
> > Scott Ritchey wrote: > > > > I tried to replace a door strike (aka door locking eye) on > > 1983 300SD and was unable to loosen the top two screws. The > > bottom two popped loose OK. > Tim C wrote: > > I will assume he will get them out, but I have a question on > the next step: how do you put them back on? I can't get the > second latching on my striker no matter how I position it. I > get the first latch no problem but even at the outermost > position the latch part doesn't flip the second time. Is > there a trick to setting these things up? Is it a new part? Or an old one? Not engaging the second latch without a vigorous slam is a failure mode. The first one I encountered I spend a _lot_ of time messing with the moving mechanical part in the door. Finally I swapped the fixed "cone" assembly from the door frame and the problem was solved. Since then I have replaced a number of them. Most annoyingly, I can't _see_ a difference! So by looking I can't tell if a given piece is good or bad. It _really_ bugs me! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws
On Feb 8, 2012 5:21 PM, "Scott Ritchey" wrote: > > I tried to replace a door strike (aka door locking eye) on 1983 300SD and > was unable to loosen the top two screws. The bottom two popped loose OK. I will assume he will get them out, but I have a question on the next step: how do you put them back on? I can't get the second latching on my striker no matter how I position it. I get the first latch no problem but even at the outermost position the latch part doesn't flip the second time. Is there a trick to setting these things up? Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws
A smack with the hammer loosened the bond in the taper and puts less stress on the tool and bolt head. Less chance of stripping the hex. They turn out with ease after smacking them. Mike On Feb 8, 2012 9:12 PM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > And the hand impact drivers usually have very large Phillips head drivers > with them, too. > > I think I bough the one I have at Sears years ago, and it was like $10. > I'm sure Harbor Freight has them now for less than that. > > Dan > > > On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:08 PM, OK Don wrote: > > > What he said - always worked for me. > > > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:35 PM, G Mann wrote: > > > >> Hand operated impact driver attach proper hex drive / phillips > drive / > >> whatever fits and hold squarely in contact with screw fitting and strike > >> smartly with 2 lb hand operated hammer SMAA !!! while > rotating > >> in direction of "lose" for the intended servant screw. > >> > >> Stubborn screws will become user friendly... FLAPS should have them... > >> NAPA does for sure... Harbor Freight , Snapon, online somewhere... 3/8 > >> drive are most common, 1/2 more rare... but around.. > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > 2001 ML320 > > 1992 300D 2.5T > > 1990 300D 2.5T > > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws
And the hand impact drivers usually have very large Phillips head drivers with them, too. I think I bough the one I have at Sears years ago, and it was like $10. I'm sure Harbor Freight has them now for less than that. Dan On Feb 8, 2012, at 9:08 PM, OK Don wrote: > What he said - always worked for me. > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:35 PM, G Mann wrote: > >> Hand operated impact driver attach proper hex drive / phillips drive / >> whatever fits and hold squarely in contact with screw fitting and strike >> smartly with 2 lb hand operated hammer SMAA !!! while rotating >> in direction of "lose" for the intended servant screw. >> >> Stubborn screws will become user friendly... FLAPS should have them... >> NAPA does for sure... Harbor Freight , Snapon, online somewhere... 3/8 >> drive are most common, 1/2 more rare... but around.. >> >> > > > -- > OK Don > 2001 ML320 > 1992 300D 2.5T > 1990 300D 2.5T > 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws
What he said - always worked for me. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:35 PM, G Mann wrote: > Hand operated impact driver attach proper hex drive / phillips drive / > whatever fits and hold squarely in contact with screw fitting and strike > smartly with 2 lb hand operated hammer SMAA !!! while rotating > in direction of "lose" for the intended servant screw. > > Stubborn screws will become user friendly... FLAPS should have them... > NAPA does for sure... Harbor Freight , Snapon, online somewhere... 3/8 > drive are most common, 1/2 more rare... but around.. > > -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws
> Scott Ritchey wrote: > I tried to replace a door strike (aka door locking eye) on > 1983 300SD and was unable to loosen the top two screws. > Question: Does anyone know any tricks to loosen these screws? The problem is probably not the threads, but the taper fit of the head. I have used Kroil to lube. And often a solid "smack" on the screw can shift stuff enough to allow it to turn. When I put it back together again, I always put a bit of grease on that taper. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws
Just smack the bolts with a brass hammer before removing them with a good 5mm on a ratchet. Has worked for me on some that would not budge with an Allen wrench. Mike On Feb 8, 2012 5:35 PM, "G Mann" wrote: > Hand operated impact driver attach proper hex drive / phillips drive / > whatever fits and hold squarely in contact with screw fitting and strike > smartly with 2 lb hand operated hammer SMAA !!! while rotating > in direction of "lose" for the intended servant screw. > > Stubborn screws will become user friendly... FLAPS should have them... > NAPA does for sure... Harbor Freight , Snapon, online somewhere... 3/8 > drive are most common, 1/2 more rare... but around.. > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: > > > I tried to replace a door strike (aka door locking eye) on 1983 300SD and > > was unable to loosen the top two screws. The bottom two popped loose OK. > > These screws seem very soft and the hex sockets deformed easily. > > > > > > > > Question: Does anyone know any tricks to loosen these screws? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Scott > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws
He will be a looser --R On 2/8/12 5:35 PM, G Mann wrote: while rotating in direction of "lose" for the intended servant screw. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Strike Screws
Hand operated impact driver attach proper hex drive / phillips drive / whatever fits and hold squarely in contact with screw fitting and strike smartly with 2 lb hand operated hammer SMAA !!! while rotating in direction of "lose" for the intended servant screw. Stubborn screws will become user friendly... FLAPS should have them... NAPA does for sure... Harbor Freight , Snapon, online somewhere... 3/8 drive are most common, 1/2 more rare... but around.. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: > I tried to replace a door strike (aka door locking eye) on 1983 300SD and > was unable to loosen the top two screws. The bottom two popped loose OK. > These screws seem very soft and the hex sockets deformed easily. > > > > Question: Does anyone know any tricks to loosen these screws? > > > > Thanks, > > Scott > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Door Strike Screws
I tried to replace a door strike (aka door locking eye) on 1983 300SD and was unable to loosen the top two screws. The bottom two popped loose OK. These screws seem very soft and the hex sockets deformed easily. Question: Does anyone know any tricks to loosen these screws? Thanks, Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
