Re: [MBZ] ES-12a Was RE: 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?

2012-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Rick Knoble wrote:


I was looking at the Envirosafe website and it says not to charge the ES-12a 
into a vacuum.


Inexplicable.


http://www.es-refrigerants.com/

Should I vacuum the system and then let air back in?


Air is not allowed. That goes double for systems with highly flammable propane 
in them. Air+fuel+pressure+heat=not good.




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Re: [MBZ] ES-12a Was RE: 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?

2012-08-15 Thread Mitch Haley

Rick Knoble wrote:


 for best results, do NOT pull a vacuum on A/C system.

That's probably because they want you to charge liquid with the dye.
If you boil the propane out of the can, it likely won't carry all the dye into 
the system. If you have a can with dye in it, charge with the undyed stuff first 
and let the dye be the last can you put in.


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[MBZ] ES-12a Was RE: 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?

2012-08-14 Thread Rick Knoble

 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:43:43 -0400
 From: trainpain2...@yahoo.com

 If you need any more freon 
 later you might want to try that Enviro Safe ES-12a. It is 
 working really good in our cars, much better than the R134 that I 
 was using before.

I was looking at the Envirosafe website and it says not to charge the ES-12a 
into a vacuum.

http://www.es-refrigerants.com/

Should I vacuum the system and then let air back in?

Also, where is the high side fitting? I bought the 134a adapters, but I can't 
seem to find the high side...

Rick
  
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Re: [MBZ] ES-12a Was RE: 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?

2012-08-14 Thread Craig
On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:53:16 -0700 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 I was looking at the Envirosafe website and it says not to charge the
 ES-12a into a vacuum.
 
 http://www.es-refrigerants.com/

I looked on the web site but could not find the comment. Where does it
say that?


 Should I vacuum the system and then let air back in?

The whole point of vacuuming a system is to remove moisture and air
(since air does not function as a refrigerant). Letting air back in would
ruin that effort.


 Also, where is the high side fitting? I bought the 134a adapters, but I
 can't seem to find the high side...

Sorry, I can't help you with that.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ES-12a Was RE: 1985 300CD Klima relay - where is it?

2012-08-14 Thread Rick Knoble

On Aug 14, 2012, at 9:17 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 
 I was looking at the Envirosafe website and it says not to charge the
 ES-12a into a vacuum.
 
 http://www.es-refrigerants.com/
 
 I looked on the web site but could not find the comment. Where does it
 say that?


http://www.envirosafe-refrigerants.com/
Go to Refrigerants And Support Fluids  Refrigerant. Then R134a replacement 
with dye can. 

Next to the picture of the ES-134a can, on the left, by the bottom of the 
picture. 

Rick
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