Re: [MBZ] Fakebook 124 AC idiocy
Interesting ... How many timing chains have been replaced? Have you measured the chain stretch? Marshall said that the synthetic drastically reduced the rate of chain wear and that it was measurable. You might be able to confirm or debunk that. On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 8:20 PM ROGER HALE via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well, I hate to even chime in here, but... I know some of you are purist, > but my 1983 300D with over 360,000 miles . It also has only run Dino > 15x40 Mobil, no synthetic. > Best Wishes and Happy 4th, > Roger > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fakebook 124 AC idiocy
If memory serves me correctly, the term is “miscible”, and R134a is not with mineral based oils. -D > On Jul 4, 2020, at 10:02 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > > You have ensure the oil is something that is compatible with the refrigerant. > Anything else is murder. (To the compressor.) > > -- Jim > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fakebook 124 AC idiocy
You have ensure the oil is something that is compatible with the refrigerant. Anything else is murder. (To the compressor.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fakebook 124 AC idiocy
Well, I hate to even chime in here, but... I know some of you are purist, but my 1983 300D with over 360,000 miles and still the same compressor from 20 years ago, has run R12, Freeze12, DuraCool, R134a, and something else. The oil has been mixed. It will still cool if topped off and stop the heater valve from overcoming the cool air. So, no it is not recommended to mix but it will work. My car is proof. It also has only run Dino 15x40 Mobil, no synthetic. Best Wishes and Happy 4th, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fakebook 124 AC idiocy
Correct. On 7/4/2020 4:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I could maybe see that, although I would have some concerns about the oil that’s still in the system, as well as why all the R12 leaked out. If it’s an R12 system it’s got mineral based oil in it which does not dissolve in R134a, meaning you might end up with a failed compressor down the road as a result. -D On Jul 4, 2020, at 5:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Basically if the R12 has all leaked out, all you need to do is put R134 fittings on it and charge it. Nothing else is required. On 7/4/2020 4:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Either FB makes people stupid or it attracts them. A “25 year mechanic” who has half a brain would know better than that. Do I understand that they were suggesting dumping R-134a in on top of R-12 in the same system? -D On Jul 4, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Well they were talking about recharging a R12 system. A “25 year mechanic “ says just buy the fill adapter and dump in 134. I say that won’t work then others chime in it’ll be fine, I don’t know anything --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fakebook 124 AC idiocy
I could maybe see that, although I would have some concerns about the oil that’s still in the system, as well as why all the R12 leaked out. If it’s an R12 system it’s got mineral based oil in it which does not dissolve in R134a, meaning you might end up with a failed compressor down the road as a result. -D > On Jul 4, 2020, at 5:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Basically if the R12 has all leaked out, all you need to do is put R134 > fittings on it and charge it. Nothing else is required. > > On 7/4/2020 4:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> Either FB makes people stupid or it attracts them. A “25 year mechanic” who >> has half a brain would know better than that. >> >> Do I understand that they were suggesting dumping R-134a in on top of R-12 >> in the same system? >> >> -D >> >>> On Jul 4, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Well they were talking about recharging a R12 system. A “25 year mechanic “ >>> says just buy the fill adapter and dump in 134. I say that won’t work then >>> others chime in it’ll be fine, I don’t know anything >>> >>> --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fakebook 124 AC idiocy
Basically if the R12 has all leaked out, all you need to do is put R134 fittings on it and charge it. Nothing else is required. On 7/4/2020 4:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Either FB makes people stupid or it attracts them. A “25 year mechanic” who has half a brain would know better than that. Do I understand that they were suggesting dumping R-134a in on top of R-12 in the same system? -D On Jul 4, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Well they were talking about recharging a R12 system. A “25 year mechanic “ says just buy the fill adapter and dump in 134. I say that won’t work then others chime in it’ll be fine, I don’t know anything --FT Sent from iPhone On Jul 4, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Closed group. -D On Jul 4, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: I don’t even know... https://www.facebook.com/groups/W124GroupNA/permalink/896211494216940/ --FT Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fakebook 124 AC idiocy
Oh my god, it is unbelievable how stupid people are there, especially those that are the supposed experts. On 7/4/2020 3:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: I don’t even know... https://www.facebook.com/groups/W124GroupNA/permalink/896211494216940/ --FT Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fakebook 124 AC idiocy
Either FB makes people stupid or it attracts them. A “25 year mechanic” who has half a brain would know better than that. Do I understand that they were suggesting dumping R-134a in on top of R-12 in the same system? -D > On Jul 4, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Well they were talking about recharging a R12 system. A “25 year mechanic “ > says just buy the fill adapter and dump in 134. I say that won’t work then > others chime in it’ll be fine, I don’t know anything > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Jul 4, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Closed group. >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Jul 4, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I don’t even know... >>> >>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/W124GroupNA/permalink/896211494216940/ >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iPhone >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fakebook 124 AC idiocy
Well they were talking about recharging a R12 system. A “25 year mechanic “ says just buy the fill adapter and dump in 134. I say that won’t work then others chime in it’ll be fine, I don’t know anything --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 4, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Closed group. > > -D > > >> On Jul 4, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I don’t even know... >> >> https://www.facebook.com/groups/W124GroupNA/permalink/896211494216940/ >> >> --FT >> Sent from iPhone >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fakebook 124 AC idiocy
Closed group. -D > On Jul 4, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > I don’t even know... > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/W124GroupNA/permalink/896211494216940/ > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fakebook 124 AC idiocy
I don’t even know... https://www.facebook.com/groups/W124GroupNA/permalink/896211494216940/ --FT Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
