Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> A bright red spot between the glow and SRS.  No logo


That is an empty site on my '86 SDL.  Could it be the third brake lamp,
"antilock", installed in the wrong hole?

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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Dry roads, no rain for a few days.  It is cold (?)

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Jan 4, 2018, at 10:15 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have seen them do the light flicker when the road is really wet or the 
> wheel(s) go through water.
> 
> -D


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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The pedals have no impact.  I thought is might be some thing related to idle 
vs. power.  Or going vs. stopping.


clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Jan 4, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, but usually there is some correspondence with using the brake pedal and 
> the light behavior.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On January 4, 2018 12:14:31 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> But if it starts flickering, then eventually comes on solid, that would
>> be the usual MO of the brake pad thickness light, wouldn't it?
>> Mitch. 
>>> On January 4, 2018 at 11:41 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On many of these instrument clusters the warning lamps on the right
>> are
>>> individual bulbs on pigtails, which are easy to insert into the wrong
>> holes
>>> in the cluster.  Could this be an out-of-place warning?  Key-on is
>> usually
>>> a lamp check, are there any labeled positions that do not light up?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I have been having no lamp  issues at key on.  What should light, does, and the 
weird light does not come on.  When I fire it off, sometimes it will come on as 
a flicker.

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Jan 4, 2018, at 8:41 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On many of these instrument clusters the warning lamps on the right are
> individual bulbs on pigtails, which are easy to insert into the wrong holes
> in the cluster.  Could this be an out-of-place warning?  Key-on is usually
> a lamp check, are there any labeled positions that do not light up?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

That is what I thought.  This is a really mystery light with no clue what it is 
upset about

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Jan 4, 2018, at 7:14 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Don't know about the SDL but if I remember on the SD the setup is just like 
> on my 123. The light with the circle and 6 dots outside of it is the front 
> pad wear sensor. The fluid level is incorporated into the warning light 
> labeled BRAKE along with the parking brake left on switch.
> 
> MG
> 
> clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>> The DOT 3 is good in both.  Clean and full.  I did have some brake fluid 
>> trouble earlier that did activate the brake lamp.  Would it be the brake 
>> wear sensors?  And why would the manual not indicate what the lamp is?
>> clay 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 19:01:04 -0800 clay monroe via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 For a week or two there has been a flashing red idiot light coming on
 in the w126.  In the SDL it is between the glow and SRS.  It is on
 steady now.  My OM does not give any indication what this even is.
 Same issue in the SD, but not solid yet.
>>> Low brake fluid? 

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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

A bright red spot between the glow and SRS.  No logo

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers


> 
> Oooh.  Is DOT3 bad for the new(er) car hoses too?  For the 123 and
> 115 era DOT3 cause the hoses to swell.  DOT4 is the right stuff to
> use.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-12509-Dot-Brake-Fluid/dp/B0093PHU9C/
> http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=7668756
> 
>> Would it be the brake wear sensors?  And why would the manual not
>> indicate what the lamp is?
> 
> Is there a icon or picture with the light?  Or is it just a plain,
> red bright spot?  (Not that I would no anything about a W126
> dashboard...)


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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I have seen them do the light flicker when the road is really wet or the 
wheel(s) go through water.

-D

> On Jan 4, 2018, at 1:05 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, but usually there is some correspondence with using the brake pedal and 
> the light behavior.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On January 4, 2018 12:14:31 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> But if it starts flickering, then eventually comes on solid, that would
>> be the usual MO of the brake pad thickness light, wouldn't it?
>> Mitch. 
>>> On January 4, 2018 at 11:41 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On many of these instrument clusters the warning lamps on the right
>> are
>>> individual bulbs on pigtails, which are easy to insert into the wrong
>> holes
>>> in the cluster.  Could this be an out-of-place warning?  Key-on is
>> usually
>>> a lamp check, are there any labeled positions that do not light up?
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, but usually there is some correspondence with using the brake pedal and 
the light behavior.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 4, 2018 12:14:31 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>But if it starts flickering, then eventually comes on solid, that would
>be the usual MO of the brake pad thickness light, wouldn't it?
>Mitch. 
>> On January 4, 2018 at 11:41 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On many of these instrument clusters the warning lamps on the right
>are
>> individual bulbs on pigtails, which are easy to insert into the wrong
>holes
>> in the cluster.  Could this be an out-of-place warning?  Key-on is
>usually
>> a lamp check, are there any labeled positions that do not light up?
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

But if it starts flickering, then eventually comes on solid, that would be the 
usual MO of the brake pad thickness light, wouldn't it?
Mitch. 
> On January 4, 2018 at 11:41 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> On many of these instrument clusters the warning lamps on the right are
> individual bulbs on pigtails, which are easy to insert into the wrong holes
> in the cluster.  Could this be an out-of-place warning?  Key-on is usually
> a lamp check, are there any labeled positions that do not light up?
>

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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

On many of these instrument clusters the warning lamps on the right are
individual bulbs on pigtails, which are easy to insert into the wrong holes
in the cluster.  Could this be an out-of-place warning?  Key-on is usually
a lamp check, are there any labeled positions that do not light up?

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[MG via Mercedes]

Don't know about the SDL but if I remember on the SD the setup is 
just like on my 123. The light with the circle and 6 dots outside 
of it is the front pad wear sensor. The fluid level is 
incorporated into the warning light labeled BRAKE along with the 
parking brake left on switch.


MG

clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

The DOT 3 is good in both.  Clean and full.  I did have some brake fluid 
trouble earlier that did activate the brake lamp.  Would it be the brake wear 
sensors?  And why would the manual not indicate what the lamp is?


clay 


1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen
 







On Jan 3, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:

On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 19:01:04 -0800 clay monroe via Mercedes
 wrote:


For a week or two there has been a flashing red idiot light coming on
in the w126.  In the SDL it is between the glow and SRS.  It is on
steady now.  My OM does not give any indication what this even is.
Same issue in the SD, but not solid yet.

Low brake fluid?


Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[fmiser via Mercedes]

>  Clean and full.  I did have some
> brake fluid trouble earlier that did activate the brake lamp.
> Would it be the brake wear sensors?  And why would the manual
> not indicate what the lamp is?
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jan 3, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > >clay wrote:
> > >
> > > For a week or two there has been a flashing red idiot light
> > > coming on in the w126.  In the SDL it is between the glow and
> > > SRS.  It is on steady now.  My OM does not give any
> > > indication what this even is.

> > Craig wrote:
> > 
> > Low brake fluid?

 clay wrote:

> The DOT 3 is good in both.

Oooh.  Is DOT3 bad for the new(er) car hoses too?  For the 123 and
115 era DOT3 cause the hoses to swell.  DOT4 is the right stuff to
use.

https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-12509-Dot-Brake-Fluid/dp/B0093PHU9C/
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=7668756

> Would it be the brake wear sensors?  And why would the manual not
> indicate what the lamp is?

Is there a icon or picture with the light?  Or is it just a plain,
red bright spot?  (Not that I would no anything about a W126
dashboard...)

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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The DOT 3 is good in both.  Clean and full.  I did have some brake fluid 
trouble earlier that did activate the brake lamp.  Would it be the brake wear 
sensors?  And why would the manual not indicate what the lamp is?


clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen
 





> On Jan 3, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 19:01:04 -0800 clay monroe via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> For a week or two there has been a flashing red idiot light coming on
>> in the w126.  In the SDL it is between the glow and SRS.  It is on
>> steady now.  My OM does not give any indication what this even is.
>> Same issue in the SD, but not solid yet.
> 
> Low brake fluid?
> 
> 
> Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 3 Jan 2018 19:01:04 -0800 clay monroe via Mercedes
 wrote:

> For a week or two there has been a flashing red idiot light coming on
> in the w126.  In the SDL it is between the glow and SRS.  It is on
> steady now.  My OM does not give any indication what this even is.
> Same issue in the SD, but not solid yet.

Low brake fluid?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I am not sure, but Will ask a question the group might know, which might be 
related to the topic

For a week or two there has been a flashing red idiot light coming on in the 
w126.  In the SDL it is between the glow and SRS.  It is on steady now.  My OM 
does not give any indication what this even is.  Same issue in the SD, but not 
solid yet.

clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Jan 3, 2018, at 2:56 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Listers:
> I'm replacing the front calipers on my '83 240D.
> However, Autozones catalog shows 12 kinds/makes of front calipers: steel 
> piston, phenolic piston; one piston, 2 pistons; and prices ranging from $31 
> to $107.
> 
> https://www.autozone.com/brakes-and-traction-control/brake-caliper-front
> 
> Information and suggestions on these different types are appreciated.
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Front brake calipers

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

There is only one that fits.  ATE dual piston, steel.

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[MBZ] Front brake calipers

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Listers:
I'm replacing the front calipers on my '83 240D.
However, Autozones catalog shows 12 kinds/makes of front calipers: steel 
piston, phenolic piston; one piston, 2 pistons; and prices ranging from $31 to 
$107.

https://www.autozone.com/brakes-and-traction-control/brake-caliper-front

Information and suggestions on these different types are appreciated.
Gerry

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