Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
when you dont go anymore? R A Bennell wrote: So, how am I to tell when the filter becomes restricted? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes Jim Cathey wrote: I have been changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. I think the manual is closer to right than you are on this one. Unless you are having problems with clogging filters. I change the filters whenever they become restricted. That is seldom less than 30kmi and could be as long as 75kmi. But it only takes one bad batch of fuel to clog up a filter! Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
I change the inline fuel filter at least 3X yearly due to clogging, and at least annually for the main filter, regardless of mileage. Cheap fixes. On 11/13/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when you dont go anymore? R A Bennell wrote: So, how am I to tell when the filter becomes restricted? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes Jim Cathey wrote: I have been changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. I think the manual is closer to right than you are on this one. Unless you are having problems with clogging filters. I change the filters whenever they become restricted. That is seldom less than 30kmi and could be as long as 75kmi. But it only takes one bad batch of fuel to clog up a filter! Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fuel filter changes
How to tell; my 300D started slowing down to about 45 mph top speed i turned off to check filters; yes i have most all parts to fix car in OTHER CAR!!!; I did remove main filter dump out; then clear pre filter; had black specks all around inside: i shook blew thru it enough to get home w. no more loss of power; OH! the night before i had removed the tank screen cleaned checked not bad at all; then i stuck my finger up in tank rubbed it all around to loosen up a small layer of sludge; only felt like thin layer???then the sludge went to pre filter, never had a pre filter so stopped up! hadn't had this car for long; changed repaired a lot of other items, but did not change the CHEAPEST?? the pre filter; i have used diesel additives also in tank; Steve
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
Not really worried about it as I think my car has reasonable power for its type. Was just curious as to whether there were obvious symptoms I should keep in mind as this is all fairly new to me. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes They can slowly reduce in power overtime, or reduce suddenly. I have had several diesels get massive increases in power after filter changes, when I had never realized they were slowing down. Usually you will notice a serious reduction, and difficulty climbing even mild grades. I always carry spare filters, and the tools to change them when driving any diesel vehicle anywhere. If you are in doubt, change them now and stop worrying about it. It's easy and cheap to do, and then you can keep around the old filters that still flow as emergency spares! Tyler How sudden should I expect the onset? As we all know, these old cars are not too speedy to begin with. I might not notice unless it becomes fairly obvious. This is a 76 115 300D that I am referring to. I have had it 2 summers now and have yet to change fuel filters. I bought some and have one in the trunk but have yet to install one. I got some of the clear inline prefilters too but my car does not appear to have one installed at this time. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
andrew strasfogel wrote: I change the inline fuel filter at least 3X yearly due to clogging, and at least annually for the main filter, regardless of mileage. Cheap fixes. The only time you should need to do that is if you routinely buy seriously contaminated fuel OR the is debris in the tank that needs to be cleaned out. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
Jim Cathey wrote: I have been changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. I think the manual is closer to right than you are on this one. Unless you are having problems with clogging filters. I change the filters whenever they become restricted. That is seldom less than 30kmi and could be as long as 75kmi. But it only takes one bad batch of fuel to clog up a filter! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
So, how am I to tell when the filter becomes restricted? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes Jim Cathey wrote: I have been changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. I think the manual is closer to right than you are on this one. Unless you are having problems with clogging filters. I change the filters whenever they become restricted. That is seldom less than 30kmi and could be as long as 75kmi. But it only takes one bad batch of fuel to clog up a filter! Marshall --
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
When your car starts having less power. The first time I experienced it with my 83' 300D, the top speed on the highway dropped to around 65mph, and trying to climb hills was at a significantly reduced speed. Levi On 11/13/06, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, how am I to tell when the filter becomes restricted? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes Jim Cathey wrote: I have been changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. I think the manual is closer to right than you are on this one. Unless you are having problems with clogging filters. I change the filters whenever they become restricted. That is seldom less than 30kmi and could be as long as 75kmi. But it only takes one bad batch of fuel to clog up a filter! Marshall -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
Yes-even on my 240D I could feel the loss of power-esp. under load. (Imagine that.) I have also been able to see the little black flecks in the clear inline filters-less so in the translucent ones. On my 300D 2.5t it started to miss at speed-just before the turbo kicked on. Marshall is right-change as needed-but I carry some spares in the trunk of both of mine. Dwight Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + + miles-Green Goddess 1990 300D 2.5t, 135K miles-The Princess Wickford, RI So, how am I to tell when the filter becomes restricted? Randy
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
R A Bennell wrote: So, how am I to tell when the filter becomes restricted? Randy 0-60 acceleration time increases, top speed decreases, fuel consumption USUALLY increases (doesn't seem logical does it?) and you have shift sooner to get up hills. If changing the filter remedies all the problems, then you had a clogged filter. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
How sudden should I expect the onset? As we all know, these old cars are not too speedy to begin with. I might not notice unless it becomes fairly obvious. This is a 76 115 300D that I am referring to. I have had it 2 summers now and have yet to change fuel filters. I bought some and have one in the trunk but have yet to install one. I got some of the clear inline prefilters too but my car does not appear to have one installed at this time. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes R A Bennell wrote: So, how am I to tell when the filter becomes restricted? Randy 0-60 acceleration time increases, top speed decreases, fuel consumption USUALLY increases (doesn't seem logical does it?) and you have shift sooner to get up hills. If changing the filter remedies all the problems, then you had a clogged filter. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
They can slowly reduce in power overtime, or reduce suddenly. I have had several diesels get massive increases in power after filter changes, when I had never realized they were slowing down. Usually you will notice a serious reduction, and difficulty climbing even mild grades. I always carry spare filters, and the tools to change them when driving any diesel vehicle anywhere. If you are in doubt, change them now and stop worrying about it. It's easy and cheap to do, and then you can keep around the old filters that still flow as emergency spares! Tyler How sudden should I expect the onset? As we all know, these old cars are not too speedy to begin with. I might not notice unless it becomes fairly obvious. This is a 76 115 300D that I am referring to. I have had it 2 summers now and have yet to change fuel filters. I bought some and have one in the trunk but have yet to install one. I got some of the clear inline prefilters too but my car does not appear to have one installed at this time. Randy
[MBZ] Fuel filter changes
I have ben changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1979 240D 102K miles
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
I have been changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. I think the manual is closer to right than you are on this one. Unless you are having problems with clogging filters. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
its overkill unless you ran into some bad fuel. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have ben changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1979 240D 102K miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
In a message dated 11/12/2006 5:36:22 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have ben changing fuel filters in line and canister every 10,000 miles. Manual says every 37K on a 1979 240D Is this over kill or extra insurance. shoul I scale back? The groups thoughts please. Tom, I would say overkill. On a diesel, the result of a clogged filter is merely a loss of power, no harm comes to the engine. Leaning out a gas engine, on the other hand, can burn a valve or fry a piston. I always try to carry a spare filter, as one bad load of fuel can clog a filter, even the day after you change it! I change mine at about 30,000 miles and have only been slowed once on a trip, in over 500,000 miles of diesel travel. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 146 K miles
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter changes
I would say overkill. On a diesel, the result of a clogged filter is merely a loss of power, no harm comes to the engine. Depends on the diesel! The non- common-rail 24-valve Cummins motor used by Dodge 'twixt 98 and '-2 (?) would eat the injection pump if the fuel filter clogged. It has a rotary fuel-lubricated pump, however. -- Jim
